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N4 - Collooney to Castlebaldwin [open to traffic]

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    The first 2.5km on the Sligo side is an online widening/upgrade which includes the construction of a parallel road to facilitate access


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    marno21 wrote: »
    The first 2.5km on the Sligo side is an online widening/upgrade which includes the construction of a parallel road to facilitate access

    The access road hardly needs 2 years of stop/go though. Just seems like poor inefficient engineering.

    The unmarked cop at Castlebaldwin will be redundant if the stop/go is near him.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Some nice shots of early works on this scheme courtesy Sligo County Council

    https://twitter.com/sligococo/status/1116696235799457792


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭steeler j


    marno21 wrote: »
    Some nice shots of early works on this scheme courtesy Sligo County Council

    https://twitter.com/sligococo/status/1116696235799457792

    nice photos


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Blasting now underway 4km north of Castlebaldwin for 8 months

    https://twitter.com/sligococo/status/1142108211526426624


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  • Registered Users Posts: 397 ✭✭Geogregor




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Also, a flythrough over the most northern part of the scheme: https://vimeo.com/337560892


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Pics of site prep May 2019:

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    June 2019 earthworks:

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    All credit to Roadbridge @ www.n4realignment.ie

    This is scheduled for a Q4 2021 opening. Seems a long way off (even with the required online upgrade at the northern end) for a basic 14km 2+2 scheme with no major structures.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Nice, haven't been down the N4 in a while and wasn't aware it was so advanced, good progress being made


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Earthworks drone footage from early July.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Delighted to see this death trap go. What standard road will it be? DC standard but same as motorway? Or lesser?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    road_high wrote: »
    Delighted to see this death trap go. What standard road will it be? DC standard but same as motorway? Or lesser?

    Type 2 Dual Carriageway aka 2+2. Two lanes each way with no hard shoulder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    marno21 wrote: »
    Type 2 Dual Carriageway aka 2+2. Two lanes each way with no hard shoulder.

    Pity they didn’t just Motorway it to hell- think the traffic figures are pretty high anyway here


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    The 2+2 section around Roosky is perfectly adequate (apart from annoying roundabouts) and usually half empty, motorway would be nice but even basic 2+2 should future proof it for the foreseeable


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    road_high wrote: »
    Pity they didn’t just Motorway it to hell- think the traffic figures are pretty high anyway here

    AADT at the southern terminus is 7k. 2+2 is absolutely plenty. 2+2 has a capacity of ~20k remember


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    marno21 wrote: »

    All credit to Roadbridge @ www.n4realignment.ie

    This is scheduled for a Q4 2021 opening. Seems a long way off (even with the required online upgrade at the northern end) for a basic 14km 2+2 scheme with no major structures.
    What are the chances of it been done early. They seem to be making ferocious progress. Still flat out 18.30 tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    marno21 wrote: »
    AADT at the southern terminus is 7k. 2+2 is absolutely plenty. 2+2 has a capacity of ~20k remember

    Didnt realise the traffic levels were that low. Assumed it was higher. Love a bit of blue signage where possible!


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    road_high wrote: »
    Didnt realise the traffic levels were that low. Assumed it was higher. Love a bit of blue signage where possible!

    Indeed, there is a sharp drop off south of Castlebaldwin until Carrick where it begins to pick up again towards Dublin.

    Looking like the only chance of motorway grade road on the N4 will be Mullingar-Longford, and that's yet to be finalised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Motorway definitely needed to beyond Longford and probably Carrick but already some upgrades between Newtown and Carrick done which couldn’t be incorporated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    marno21 wrote: »
    Indeed, there is a sharp drop off south of Castlebaldwin until Carrick where it begins to pick up again towards Dublin.
    Not that much though. The AADT between Carrick and Longford is only 7.7K.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    serfboard wrote: »
    Not that much though. The AADT between Carrick and Longford is only 7.7K.

    Any data around Carrick? Data seems a bit spartan around the N4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    road_high wrote: »
    Any data around Carrick? Data seems a bit spartan around the N4
    Indeed. The only counters that you’ll see on the TII site (https://www.tii.ie/roads-tolling/operations-and-maintenance/traffic-count-data/) are the aforementioned ones just south of Castlebaldwin (7K), and between Carrick and Longford (7.7K), although in fairness, they are probably all that’s needed for long-distance planning on this stretch of the N4.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    From my own experience on the N4 traffic only really gets noticeably heavy once the N5 merges in Longford, from Colooney to Longford is fairly quiet. There're plenty more pressing schemes that should be prioritised over dualing the rest of Longford - Colooney (Carrick bypass aside)


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N4 newsletter Q2 2019 (April-August):

    https://www.n4realignment.ie/newsletters/q2-newsletter/


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    N4 earthworks July 2019:

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Earthworks August 2019 part 1:

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Earthworks August 2019 part 2

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Earthworks September 2019 part 1

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Earthworks September 2019 part 2

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Earthworks September 2019 part 3

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    All credit to Roadbridge @ www.n4realignment.ie for the fantastic snaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Looks like decent progress. Rarely use this road but will be great to see this notorious accident black spot go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Bridge over the main road where the bad bend used be mostly up. I’d be shocked if it didn’t open early. The way progress seems to be going


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    shanec1928 wrote: »
    Bridge over the main road where the bad bend used be mostly up. I’d be shocked if it didn’t open early. The way progress seems to be going

    Late Q2/early Q3 2021 according to Sligo Council. Programmed date when construction commenced was Q4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Southbound from collooney, there seems to be construction going on both sides of the current road. Can anyone fill in what this is? Access route?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Southbound from collooney, there seems to be construction going on both sides of the current road. Can anyone fill in what this is? Access route?
    Yes, there are a lot of access roads being built as part of this scheme. Very usefully shown on OpenStreetMap.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Southbound from collooney, there seems to be construction going on both sides of the current road. Can anyone fill in what this is? Access route?

    The existing N4 is being used for the 2+2 with properties and minor roads being facilitated with access routes and realignment of the minor routes. It’s over a distance of 2.5km, but very efficient use of land.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the southern offline section was complete well in advance of this northern 2.5km due to the additional complexity involved. The southern part seems to be racing ahead with the beam lifts on the overbridge over the existing N4 at Ardloy complete already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,600 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    Is the Roundabout at N17 junction staying? Actually same for the Collooney Roundabout? Will we get freeflow, maybe wishful thinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭dakar


    Is the Roundabout at N17 junction staying? Actually same for the Collooney Roundabout? Will we get freeflow, maybe wishful thinking

    Both are staying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭ryanch09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    ryanch09 wrote: »
    That article was written in August 2017

    Had seen it shared elsewhere. No date when viewing on mobile. That’s good so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭Reuben1210


    They haven't updated the website with photos or updates since September which is a shame


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    I agree. In fact i emailed them a couple of weeks ago to inquire when they plan to publish the next newsletter but I have not had any reply to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    Latest Newsletter on the project has just been uploaded on the N4 re-alignment project (https://www.n4realignment.ie/newsletters )


    I nearly fell off my chair !


    Better late than never....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,474 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Will it really take to July 2021 or do people think they’ll get it open sooner? Another woeful stretch heading for the history books- great to see. Often you see on these upgrades the accident rate drops off significantly on the old adjoining existing route as they excavate around (More light and removal of banks) and put in traffic management etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭VR6


    Not a lot of info in the latest newsletter tbh, and very tiny pics. Difficult to read in places due to the blue background (why ?!).


    M17 We need you on this thread !


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    road_high wrote: »
    Will it really take to July 2021 or do people think they’ll get it open sooner? Another woeful stretch heading for the history books- great to see. Often you see on these upgrades the accident rate drops off significantly on the old adjoining existing route as they excavate around (More light and removal of banks) and put in traffic management etc

    Difficult to say at this stage but the planned completion date at the start of construction was Q4 2021 so they’re already 3-5 months ahead of schedule


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Latest pics December 2019

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,460 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Pics Dec 19 Part 2

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