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Ireland agrees to plan on migrant resettlement

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  • #152
    liatroimabu
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭liatroimabu


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Stick one near Bonos gaff & you'll see him object like anyone else. Its all well & good virtue signalling until its on your doorstep & having to deal with the fallout

    Exactly , they try stick it in the arsehole of nowhere so they can give themselves a clap on the back and say job well done and sure we're great fellas looking after those less fortunate. So long as its out of sight its out of mind.


  • #153
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Instead of taking in people* - spend more on camps in Jordan and Lebanon to make sure the many many real refugees there can have clean water and proper toilets and other facilities.
    Same for Africa, make sure the camps are good, safe and free from crimelords. Use UN as monitors and camp controllers.

    Do whatever is needed to educate the people in the camps so once the crisis in their countries stops they can rebuild.



    * For the money spent on each refugee here you could help many many more in a camp.
    Camps are underfunded and desperately needs support from us.
    Also you'd stop human trafficking and fake migrants, and quite a few criminals.


  • #154
    bloodless_coup
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭bloodless_coup


    Send them back, send them back!


  • #155
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    liatroimabu wrote: »
    Exactly , they try stick it in the arsehole of nowhere so they can give themselves a clap on the back and say job well done and sure we're great fellas looking after those less fortunate. So long as its out of sight its out of mind.

    Sticking a group of fighting age men into areas where there is very few Gardai is such a good idea & the locals are bound to reap the benefits as there are doing in areas around Dublin


  • #156
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Stick one near Bonos gaff & you'll see him object like anyone else. Its all well & good virtue signalling until its on your doorstep & having to deal with the fallout

    Such rubbish.
    There was a direct provision centre in killiney for years, not far from Bono's gaff


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  • #157
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Thats called trade, what are we trading?

    Saudi Arabia do far more than trade, Billions in international investments.


  • #158
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Such rubbish.
    There was a direct provision centre in killiney for years, not far from Bono's gaff

    Not on his street though is it?


  • #159
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Boggles wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia do far more than trade, Billions in international investments.

    Yeah so they can fund Mosques to be built mainly those of the Wahhabism faith


  • #160
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Not on his street though is it?

    Vico road would be a rather expensive proposition for any centre - probably the highest property prices in the state. The only welfare recipient on the road is likely to be Gavin Friday.


  • #161
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    alastair wrote: »
    Vico road would be a rather expensive proposition for any centre - probably the highest property prices in the state. The only welfare recipient on the road is likely to be Gavin Friday.

    Would this be one of the first or the first of its kind in Ireland?
    Maybe at a time when not many 'refugees' were coming here perhaps?
    I think the government may have learnt from past mistakes


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  • #162
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Not on his street though is it?

    They don't have streets in killiney.


  • #163
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Would this be one of the first or the first of its kind in Ireland?
    Maybe at a time when not many 'refugees' were coming here perhaps?
    I think the government may have learnt from past mistakes

    Listen, you're wrong & that's it. There were many refugees at the time, & the centre was always full.


  • #164
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Listen, you're wrong & that's it. There were many refugees at the time, & the centre was always full.

    Says you. Why are all the DP going to parts of the country with out the infrastructure to cope?


  • #165
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Yeah so they can fund Mosques to be built mainly those of the Wahhabism faith

    More to diversify their portfolio. But that's reality, lets forget about that.

    What's your Nationalist Party's stance on it.

    Foreign investment from countries with questionable human rights records?

    Would ye have objected to the development in Waterford?

    What about our agri exports?


  • #166
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Boggles wrote: »
    More to diversify their portfolio. But that's reality, lets forget about that.

    What's your Nationalist Party's stance on it.

    Foreign investment from countries with questionable human rights records?

    Would ye have objected to the development in Waterford?

    What about our agri exports?

    So its not OK to sell weapons to them because of their human rights but its OK to take money from them?:rolleyes:
    The Government should be investing in Ireland rather than sending millions to foreign countries who dont need it or wasting it on over spending on childrens hospitals


  • #167
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    So its not OK to sell weapons to them because of their human rights but its OK to take money from them?:rolleyes:
    The Government should be investing in Ireland rather than sending millions to foreign countries who dont need it or wasting it on over spending on childrens hospitals

    :confused:

    I didn't ask you or offer an opinion on any of that.
    More to diversify their portfolio. But that's reality, lets forget about that.

    What's your Nationalist Party's stance on it.

    Foreign investment from countries with questionable human rights records?

    Would ye have objected to the development in Waterford?

    What about our agri exports?

    Any chance you could answer?

    I assume you will be actively campaigning for the Nationalist Party, you will be asked a range of questions on the door, best be prepared.


  • #168
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    There are too many immigrants


  • #169
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    bubblypop wrote: »
    They don't have streets in killiney.

    Everybody floats through the air on a magic carpet made of money.

    Even if we can’t have refugee centres in killiney the rich have multiple bedrooms.


  • #170
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Boggles wrote: »
    More to diversify their portfolio. But that's reality, lets forget about that.

    What's your Nationalist Party's stance on it.

    Foreign investment from countries with questionable human rights records?

    Would ye have objected to the development in Waterford?

    What about our agri exports?

    Jesus you don’t have to be a member of the nationalist party to despise Saudi Arabia.


  • #171
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    Jesus you don’t have to be a member of the nationalist party to despise Saudi Arabia.

    That's not what I asked.


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  • #172
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Boggles wrote: »
    That's not what I asked.

    It is, however, what I answered.


  • #173
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Ireland is moving in the same direction as the likes of the UK, Sweden, Germany and France by allowing large numbers of migrants to reside here. Already immigrant ghettos in certain parts of the country including parts of Lucan, Blanchardstown, Balbriggan and Longford which are growing by the day. Can't see too much longer before Irish women are raped by migrants could already be happening but being covered up by the establishment. Ireland needs a true nationalist alternative.


  • #174
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Gatling wrote: »
    People seriously need to be able to stop these decisions being foised on us .
    We don't need anymore refugees or asylum seekers in this country it's already Costing us over 250 million to house the ones we already have and that's before we get to the 30 + million free legal aid bill we foot to as tax payers .

    There should be enough Irish on the street to make the Irish Water protests look like nothing. Sadly there's nothing. Probably too scared of being branded a racist or a Nazi or whatever buzzword the left love to throw around. Maybe the budget in Oct will be the straw that breaks the camel's back moment for the Irish.


  • #175
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Boggles wrote: »
    :confused:

    I didn't ask you or offer an opinion on any of that.



    Any chance you could answer?

    I assume you will be actively campaigning for the Nationalist Party, you will be asked a range of questions on the door, best be prepared.

    Well I did. I said the Government should be investing in Ireland, then we dont need foreign investment from dodgy regimes


  • #176
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    As I’ve said before if ppl have an issue with these migrant programmes then do not vote for any of the mainstream parties.

    There are smaller parties who say they will address the issue.


  • #177
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Ireland is moving in the same direction as the likes of the UK, Sweden, Germany and France by allowing large numbers of migrants to reside here. Already immigrant ghettos in certain parts of the country including parts of Lucan, Blanchardstown, Balbriggan and Longford which are growing by the day. Can't see too much longer before Irish women are raped by migrants could already be happening but being covered up by the establishment. Ireland needs a true nationalist alternative.

    Already happened on multiple occasions.
    Theres even a few Pakistanis on the Gardai radar that were trying to abduct drunk girls from pubs/clubs around the south east


  • #178
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Ireland is moving in the same direction as the likes of the UK, Sweden, Germany and France by allowing large numbers of migrants to reside here. Already immigrant ghettos in certain parts of the country including parts of Lucan, Blanchardstown, Balbriggan and Longford which are growing by the day. Can't see too much longer before Irish women are raped by migrants could already be happening but being covered up by the establishment. Ireland needs a true nationalist alternative.


    It is already happening, happening a lot.


  • #179
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Well I did. I said the Government should be investing in Ireland,

    They are, as does a whole heap of foreign multi nationals, banks and foreign investment funds. Billions.

    I'll try again, would your Nationalist Party have a problem with countries or companies for that matter with questionable human rights records invest in Ireland?

    Specifically the development in Waterford?

    It's okay to say you don't know by the way.


  • #180
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Boggles wrote: »
    They are, as does a whole heap of foreign multi nationals, banks and foreign investment funds. Billions.

    I'll try again, would your Nationalist Party have a problem with countries or companies for that matter with questionable human rights records invest in Ireland?

    Specifically the development in Waterford?

    It's okay to say you don't know by the way.

    I personally would not have investments from the Saudis sorry the National Party hotline is down at the moment for me to speak to Justin. Theres videos on youtube of meetings where you can see what goes on if your so interested


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  • #181
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    It is, however, what I answered.

    I know, Go figure.


  • #182
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    I personally would not have investments from the Saudis

    Thanks. A lot of money and jobs from that investment though if it gets the go ahead.

    What about trade, would you cancel that?
    Help!!!! wrote: »
    sorry the National Party hotline is down at the moment for me to speak to Justin. Theres videos on youtube of meetings where you can see what goes on if your so interested

    I thought it was a party?

    It seems to be just Justin.

    :confused:


  • #183
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Says you. Why are all the DP going to parts of the country with out the infrastructure to cope?

    There was one in my home town too, very small town in the country. Never any issues.


  • #184
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Boggles wrote: »
    Thanks. A lot of money and jobs from that investment though if it gets the go ahead.

    What about trade, would you cancel that?



    I thought it was a party?

    It seems to be just Justin.

    :confused:

    You seem to think we're a small group that meet up every so often in dark corners talking only about migrants:rolleyes:


  • #185
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I really struggle to understand the mind of ppl who vote FF or FG or Labour or SF or Greens

    And then get angry about migration into Ireland

    My advice - do a bit of research. There are less well known parties who say they will deal with the issue.

    Vote accordingly.


  • #186
    bfa1509
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭bfa1509


    The Enbalmer wrote: »
    Nigeria: no war

    Pakistan: no war

    Bangladesh: no war


    Syria: no war

    Georgia: no war

    Albania: no war

    We're being hoodwinked..Ireland is viewed as an easy touch because of the gullibility of the populace.

    Gullibility of the populace or the vocality of a minority of left-wing extremists?


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  • #187
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    You seem to think we're a small group that meet up every so often in dark corners talking only about migrants:rolleyes:

    I haven't asked you one question about your parties stance on migrants. :confused:

    They did seem to meet in secret (dark corners) though? ;)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105276851&postcount=197
    The National Party is who I'm talking about & have meeting around the country. I became a member earlier this year membership has grown a lot
    Meetings are kept secret at the minute


  • #188
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,581 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    My advice - do a bit of research. There are less well known parties who say they will deal with the issue.

    Sure list them up!

    What's with the all the secrecy? If they are political parties they will need / crave the exposure.


  • #189
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,851 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Boggles wrote: »
    Sure list them up!

    What's with the all the secrecy? If they are political parties they will need / crave the exposure.

    Google is your friend buddy !!


  • #190
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Boggles wrote: »
    I haven't asked you one question about your parties stance on migrants. :confused:

    They did seem to meet in secret (dark corners) though? ;)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105276851&postcount=197

    Clips of many of the meetings are uploaded as videos to Youtube so they're hardly kept completely secret from the general population. The venues and times are not made public because they have been threatened on numerous ocasions by far left thugs and many venues have had to cancel their meetings due to threats from the same thugs.

    They have a website open to the public, are active on social media and are running candiates in the next general elections. So they're hardly a bunch akin to freemasons or ither secret societies.


  • #191
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Sonny noggs wrote: »
    More doctors and engineers, great!
    So you support economic migrants using the asylum seeker process to skirt around due process?
    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    5% of these migrants will be doctors and other things useful to us
    Their qualifications may be worth shod all, as they may not conform to our standards.
    Boggles wrote: »
    Perfect, let him in.
    The Irish agri-food sector remains one of the lowest paying, while significant employment issues are highlighted as farmers struggle to find labour.

    Irish Farmers' Association president Joe Healy recently said Irish agriculture has a genuine need for extra workers from outside Europe as we approach full employment - and recovering EU economies have labour needs of their own.
    By "lowest paying", they mean "under minimum wage". So they want more cheap labour that they won't pay the minimum wage that the legal workers of Ireland get.
    Boggles wrote: »
    Damn lazy migrants!! *shakes fist*

    Oh wait >

    ?width=893&version=4274837[IMG][/img]
    Do you have a link to that? As the survey could be pointing to a limited number of foreigners versus all Irish.


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  • #192
    Cordell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,152 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Ireland is moving in the same direction as the likes of the UK, Sweden, Germany and France by allowing large numbers of migrants to reside here. Already immigrant ghettos in certain parts of the country including parts of Lucan, Blanchardstown, Balbriggan and Longford which are growing by the day. Can't see too much longer before Irish women are raped by migrants could already be happening but being covered up by the establishment. Ireland needs a true nationalist alternative.

    Do you realize that those immigrant ghettos have a lot of those nationalistic traits? Do Ireland needs more of that, only in different colour?


  • #193
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Emmanuel Macron is truly a snake.
    The Irish Government had clearly decided a few days ago that our asylum process was bursting at the seams and we couldn't take in any more.
    Even Charlie Flanagan said the number of asylum seekers coming to Ireland didn't make sense, as the numbers coming to the rest of Europe was decreasing, but increasing for Ireland. The reasons are obvious, and it has nothing to do with our great weather.

    So by this morning, the government's stance had changed completely. Either Varadkar/Coveney wanted to enhance their CVs for European jobs after they lose the next General Election, or Macron forced the African migrants on Ireland in lieu for continued backstop support.

    The EU conglomerate has turned into a right cesspit, with dubious leaders at its core, and they want all of Europe to experience their own country's failed social experiments with non-EU migrants.


  • #194
    Jimmy McGill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Jimmy McGill


    Poland is telling them to shove this migration settlement plan. Why can't politicians in Ireland have the backbone to do the same. Its evident we're heading down a road to disaster in 10-20 years time. A small island can't accommodate the third world.


  • #195
    mvl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭mvl


    One of the cons: I think Irish public health system is not equipped for everything the migrants from those shores might bring here - HSE can't provide adequate healthcare to current residents, I'd think further "diversity" would rather not help the situation.

    - and surprisingly enough, it turns out ... "According to WHO, screening of migrants and refugees for diseases is not obligatory; however, screening for certain diseases such as latent TB, viral hepatitis and intestinal parasites in high-risk groups has shown to be cost-effective."


  • #196
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    Poland is telling them to shove this migration settlement plan. Why can't politicians in Ireland have the backbone to do the same. Its evident we're heading down a road to disaster in 10-20 years time. A small island can't accommodate the third world.

    Because Poland have common sense likewise Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary and Italy which Ireland sadly lacks.


  • #197
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,137 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Clips of many of the meetings are uploaded as videos to Youtube so they're hardly kept completely secret from the general population. The venues and times are not made public because they have been threatened on numerous ocasions by far left thugs and many venues have had to cancel their meetings due to threats from the same thugs.

    They have a website open to the public, are active on social media and are running candiates in the next general elections. So they're hardly a bunch akin to freemasons or ither secret societies.

    So you think Justin Barrett is the hero Ireland deserves?


  • #198
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    1) they don't speak any english
    2) The IFA president wants farm hands below minimum wage , which has its own issues.
    3) The belief system causes issues.

    Low wages contribute fook all tax let's not forget. So either way if it not a living wage they'll still need to be looked after. Working or not.


  • #199
    JohnMc1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Jimmy McGill wrote: »
    Poland is telling them to shove this migration settlement plan. Why can't politicians in Ireland have the backbone to do the same. Its evident we're heading down a road to disaster in 10-20 years time. A small island can't accommodate the third world.

    The Visegrad Countries are the only ones acting with common sense. The rest of Europe is sleep walking and virtue signalling their way into another bloody war.


  • #200
    Jimmy McGill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Jimmy McGill


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Because Poland have common sense likewise Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary and Italy which Ireland sadly lacks.

    The countries mentioned are the ones that want to keep their heritage and culture in tact. Our politicians are obsessed with this diversity project and want to destroy ours.

    Our public services such as hospitals, public transport and roads etc are already bursting at the seams. Wait until you see what's down the line.


  • #201
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    You'd be screwed if you think Varadkar is going to sit on the opposition bench when he gets dropped in the next election. I doubt Coveney will either. This is all to ensure their jobs after government. They'll screw everybody over in the process.

    Varadkar doesn't have a next generation to care about, this is his time and he'll do whatever pleases him. But you'd be dammed sure that Simon Coveney wouldnt take kindly if his daughter brought home an Asylum Seekers as his potential new son in law.

    We're open to migration into Ireland, we voted for it, we chose it. The reason why they don't let us vote on these type of things is because they know exactly the answer they're going to get. And we can't be ruining Leo and Simons post government job opportunities


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