Star Citizen (Thinly veiled 'How many Irish backing this?')

If this was another wing commander game then I'd be all over it. Might check it out when it's on a steam sale.

Star Citizen team will be hosting a 4 hour livestream starting at 7pm tonight;
http://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13396-Star-Citizen-Anniversary-Livestream-Sale

Almost $32 million now!
These ship sales really have people digging deep in their pockets,
but I'm actually going to step back from getting one, they have plenty of money!
The only thing that grabs me atm are one of these huge Star Citizen mouse-mats @ €28;
http://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/goliath-mousepads

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

funny thing is
when the game is released I'd give it 6months at the minimum before someone who has not bought anything bar the game itself to catch up to people who spent over a thousand quid buying in game ships

I could of sworn I've seen some people in this thread who have done that complain about micro transactions when this is probably the most expensive micro transactions I've ever seen:pac: still the game does look great but I can see some people will be let down over the amount of money they put into a game not even made yet that turns out too be a big letdown
hopefully it won't be, wonder if my pc can handle it

Not to mention the dev team have to keep making slightly better ships every few months to ensure the cash cow is fed

Kiith wrote: »

I do think they should stop added stretch goals now, and just focus on getting the game out.

Why on Earth would they? They've gone to all of this effort creating a cult around a game that doesn't exist yet, and it seems like they can farm it for more cash than most fully-fledged games could ever hope to make - why on Earth would they stop? They can likely make more money stoking the hype flames and letting people pay for how awesome they imagine it will be, than they could with a real game they have to release.

People's insane desires for computer game spaceships are paying their mortgages and sending their kids to college. You can bet they are paying themselves massive salaries out of the pledge money.

I'm very proud that I've held out this long. Very proud. Won't break. No, Sir! Won't break...

[Rasta] wrote: »

Well, they even said themselves the amount of funding they got is more than they could have imagined.
So, it's basically a given that the game will be finished, but it's another question whether it's actually going to be good or not.
The instancing and the microtransaction stuff has me a bit unsure.

I don't mind microtransactions hugely so long as I don't feel like I'm a cow to be milked (e.g. World of Tanks' stock grinds where without paying real money you face 100+ games in a very, very weak tank in order to get something playable). I'm ok with time vs money, e.g. if you have money but not time you can reduce the grind but if you have no money or don't want to pay you can just grind it out and have the same top end equipment. What I dislike is when they make the game experience deliberately unpleasant unless you hand over money as opposed to simply a time sink.


Cosmetic stuff like Paradox does for its grand strategy games is always welcome I think. Totally optional but gives the developer a bit more cash with which to make more games with.

So whats the bottom line on this, pay to win model?

Absolutely sick of them to be fair, it's a ****e model that just waters down skill and enjoyment. Not wasting a penny if its a case someone with zero skill and a bit of cash can just insta buy powerful stuff

danthefan wrote: »

Ostensibly it does seem pay-to-win, but the only thing I'd say about that is everything in the game will be obtainable without spending real money (beyond purchasing the game). However if it takes 10 years of playing 8 hours a day that obviously isn't much good.

Yeah, balance is very important in this. In Mechwarrior Online you can with real money buy premium mechs (only available for money) and regular mechs (available also for in-game money). It's not considered to be that big a deal by most people because whilst the premium mechs are usually good they're not automatic picks over regular mechs for competitive play or if you were picking them for effectiveness. Normally the only reason someone is in a premium mech is for the +30% ingame currency generation and that's it really, people would really prefer to be able to buy some kind of module which gave this benefit and put it into a regular mech of their choosing generally speaking.

Time vs Money is fine, so long as the grind isn't too long without putting in some money (something that is very hard to balance in F2P games, WarThunder are still messing about quite a lot with their economy to try and balance xp vs cash gains, so is MechWarrior and even old stalwarts like World of Tanks are tweaking the balance to get the desired mix of fast enough to not drive way the free player base that keep the game servers full and busy but slow enough to encourage people with free cash to spend a little).