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Temporary Clerical Officer 2020 in the Civil and Public Service

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 solidusis


    Received an email just now inviting for the second stage(interview), I have until tomorrow noon to confirm my attendance or not. I ranked 699 in the OOM in Dublin so my understanding or belief is that they will never reach that kind of place,would i be correct in saying that or is it actually possible to reach that place and i should go to the interview?


  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭cvb03


    solidusis wrote: »
    Received an email just now inviting for the second stage(interview), I have until tomorrow noon to confirm my attendance or not. I ranked 699 in the OOM in Dublin so my understanding or belief is that they will never reach that kind of place,would i be correct in saying that or is it actually possible to reach that place and i should go to the interview?

    Yes you should go to the interview. Dublin takes on a lot of TCO's during term time. I was placed in the 300's in Dublin and started in late May. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 SMDT2020


    Hi there,
    I'm a first time applyer and I'm not really sure what my score means. My score was 1910, which puts me in category A Top third.. what does that mean. My OOM is 102 for Donegal. I'm assuming there is no way i'm getting called for interview when i'm 102 for Donegal. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    SMDT2020 wrote: »
    Hi there,
    I'm a first time applyer and I'm not really sure what my score means. My score was 1910, which puts me in category A Top third.. what does that mean. My OOM is 102 for Donegal. I'm assuming there is no way i'm getting called for interview when i'm 102 for Donegal. Can anyone shed any light on this for me?

    Thanks

    It is my understanding that just under 200 were interviewed for Donegal last year, so you should be ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 Cherylwalsh3


    Scored 1990 mid 30s oom for Waterford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 SMDT2020


    Ollie321 wrote: »
    It is my understanding that just under 200 were interviewed for Donegal last year, so you should be ok.

    Oh thanks for letting me know this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Does anyone know how to print off the application form? I filled it in on a work PC that had Adobe Reader on it. When I try access it on my own PC it just shows an error loading it. I can't print off in work.

    Also, what are the chances of been made permanent at the end of the contract?


  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Blanchguy


    Also, what are the chances of been made permanent at the end of the contract?

    None unfortunately, you might get an extension, but to become permanent there's a Clerical Officer competition which is a bit more onerous. I think there may be one later this year.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,506 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Does anyone know how to print off the application form? I filled it in on a work PC that had Adobe Reader on it. When I try access it on my own PC it just shows an error loading it. I can't print off in work.

    Are you printing from within www.publicjobs.ie? Or try and attach it to your personal email and print from that. iirc, one of those worked for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    I got it sorted. Had to upgrade to Adobe and was able to send it to my local library's printer :).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Got an interview at 9.30 for Waterford next week. Anyone else know what the interview process is like??

    Its in the local intreo centre?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 SMDT2020


    Got invited for Interview. My area is Donegal. My OOM is 102, just f.y.i for any other Donegal people out there. This is my first time applying so does anyone have any advice or know the types of questions that are asked in interview? Any help would be much appreciated.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭cvb03


    The Interview
    There will be two board members on the interview board and the interview will last for
    approximately 20 minutes.
    The interviewers are looking to identify suitable individuals who demonstrate that they have
    the high level of skills, qualities and competencies necessary to perform effectively in the
    advertised role within the Civil and Public Service.
    To determine your suitability the Interview Board may look to draw on examples from a
    range of different areas of your experience such as your education, courses taken, leisure
    activities, voluntary work or paid employment. This is to assess your suitability for the role,
    particularly in the following skill / competency areas:
     Delivery of Results including Managing and Processing Information
     Teamwork, Customer Service & Communication Skills
     Specialist Knowledge, Expertise and Self Development
     Drive & Commitment will be assessed throughout the interview.


  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭cvb03


    The TCO interview process has changed. It used to be a 5 min chat. Last year there was a stopwatch at my interview making sure we hit the 20 min mark. Just read over the interview familiarisation material and you will be fine. Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭DEW138


    Got the interview for Galway on 28th Jan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Are all your interviews in your local social welfare department?

    Does this mean you are being interviewed for just there or possibly revenue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 291 ✭✭natc


    My husband got called for an interview for late next week. His choice was Carlow and interview in Waterford so interview location not necessarily held in preferred location. He placed in top 30 OOM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 SMDT2020


    Are all your interviews in your local social welfare department?

    Does this mean you are being interviewed for just there or possibly revenue?

    My interview is in the Intreo offices in Letterkenny (Donegal), and I applied for Donegal; so in the same county. The revenue is also situated in this building so I am assuming that successful applicants can be placed in social welfare or revenue etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 SMDT2020


    cvb03 wrote: »
    The Interview
    There will be two board members on the interview board and the interview will last for
    approximately 20 minutes.
    The interviewers are looking to identify suitable individuals who demonstrate that they have
    the high level of skills, qualities and competencies necessary to perform effectively in the
    advertised role within the Civil and Public Service.
    To determine your suitability the Interview Board may look to draw on examples from a
    range of different areas of your experience such as your education, courses taken, leisure
    activities, voluntary work or paid employment. This is to assess your suitability for the role,
    particularly in the following skill / competency areas:
     Delivery of Results including Managing and Processing Information
     Teamwork, Customer Service & Communication Skills
     Specialist Knowledge, Expertise and Self Development
     Drive & Commitment will be assessed throughout the interview.

    Thank you


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  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    Location of interview has no relation to location of job offers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    For those being called to interview now, if successful, when would you hope to start work ? Are the contracts usually 12 weeks initially ? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭jules5417


    For those being called to interview now, if successful, when would you hope to start work ? Are the contracts usually 12 weeks initially ? Thanks

    About 2 months after normally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭PinkLady2016


    Im going for interview tomorrow placed at OOM 12 for Meath.


  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭cvb03


    Im going for interview tomorrow placed at OOM 12 for Meath.

    Best of luck. Is your interview in Dublin? I have my interview on Friday in Chapter House on Abbey St.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭finla


    This is my third time doing this and it is the first time I have seen them look for a garda vetting form to be included in the required documents. I'm wondering if this might have any bearing on the type of positions they are hoping to fill? What posts do you specifically need garda clearance for, I've never had to get it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭cvb03


    finla wrote: »
    This is my third time doing this and it is the first time I have seen them look for a garda vetting form to be included in the required documents. I'm wondering if this might have any bearing on the type of positions they are hoping to fill? What posts do you specifically need garda clearance for, I've never had to get it.

    I was wondering the same, this is my 4th time to do it and have never had to do the garda vetting form. I was wondering is that why the interviews are earlier this year too because the garda vetting can be a long process especially when there are so many TCO applicants.


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    General garda vetting is different from extended garda vetting for certain roles. For CO competitions garda vetting is required at interviews aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    If you have garda vetting done recently for non government organisations , ie I do community based voluntary work ,can you use it, if you were offered a TCO position ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    If you have garda vetting done recently for other non government organisations , can you use it, if you were offered a TCO position ?

    I doubt it but open to being corrected


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scouseouse


    SMDT2020 wrote: »
    Got invited for Interview. My area is Donegal. My OOM is 102, just f.y.i for any other Donegal people out there. This is my first time applying so does anyone have any advice or know the types of questions that are asked in interview? Any help would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    Congratulation on the interview , How much notice did you get for it?

    I applied for Summer only, and ranked 50 in Donegal. Not sure if this will get me an interview.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭November Golf


    If you have garda vetting done recently for non government organisations , ie I do community based voluntary work ,can you use it, if you were offered a TCO position ?

    No, Each organisation must conduct vetting separately however if you have been vetted before, this will shorter the time taken to complete the vetting process again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭PinkLady2016


    cvb03 wrote: »
    Best of luck. Is your interview in Dublin? I have my interview on Friday in Chapter House on Abbey St.

    Yes same place.. Just hoping that they will be easy on me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 SMDT2020


    Scouseouse wrote: »
    Congratulation on the interview , How much notice did you get for it?

    I applied for Summer only, and ranked 50 in Donegal. Not sure if this will get me an interview.

    Thank you,
    I got word today and the interview is on 31st Jan. I assume you should get an interview as you have placed higher than me. I think they just interview the 'all year' category first and they will need to start placing people before summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    What happens at the end of your contract? Are you just let go? Does TCO experience do anything for the permanent CO competition when it comes up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭jules5417


    What happens at the end of your contract? Are you just let go? Does TCO experience do anything for the permanent CO competition when it comes up?

    Yes you are let go,unless you get an extention. No it is a seperate competition so has no bearing on you getting permanent a CO post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 manus35


    Hi all, just noticed this thread. Got called to interview in February in Letterkenny when I was placed like 159 on OOM in Donegal.

    Out of work almost 3 years so panicking now about references.

    Has anyone used older references for this even though their booklet states in the last 3 years,

    Another problem is they want original and photocopy of the reference.

    I mean most organisations are now paperless and usually email you a reference to print,
    They are looking for something original and hard copy which is not always possible or practical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭PinkLady2016


    manus35 wrote: »
    Hi all, just noticed this thread. Got called to interview in February in Letterkenny when I was placed like 159 on OOM in Donegal.

    Out of work almost 3 years so panicking now about references.

    Has anyone used older references for this even though their booklet states in the last 3 years,

    Another problem is they want original and photocopy of the reference.

    I mean most organisations are now paperless and usually email you a reference to print,
    They are looking for something original and hard copy which is not always possible or practical

    Did you do any courses during the time you were off. You could ask a tutor. Or else go to someone who knows you priest solicitors etc. You can email them your references and you can tell them that you can't print it off. They can be very helpful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 manus35


    Just in relation to what's in the booklet below on References

    Do you think that means either two Employer references but if you can't get that

    Then one employer reference and one Character reference.

    Or Does it mean you can provide One character reference if you can't get any employer references.
    Or do you need two Character references in that case. Its a bit vague when it says "A character reference".

    Hopefully I have two references sorted but still not heard back from previous employer so could be left short.

    What's in booklet:

    References (Required at Stage 2- Interview) 1. You will be required to submit TWO typed Employer References from the past 3 years. One of which must be from your most recent employer. The references must provide information on your performance, dates of employment and your behaviour in a work context. If you cannot provide a work experience reference as outlined above, a Character Reference from someone well acquainted (but not related) to you e.g. School/University/Volunteer Group/Sports Club. This may not include members of the House of the Oireachtas or members of An Garda Síochána.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭PinkLady2016


    manus35 wrote: »
    Just in relation to what's in the booklet below on References

    Do you think that means either two Employer references but if you can't get that

    Then one employer reference and one Character reference.

    Or Does it mean you can provide One character reference if you can't get any employer references.
    Or do you need two Character references in that case. Its a bit vague when it says "A character reference".

    Hopefully I have two references sorted but still not heard back from previous employer so could be left short.

    What's in booklet:

    References (Required at Stage 2- Interview) 1. You will be required to submit TWO typed Employer References from the past 3 years. One of which must be from your most recent employer. The references must provide information on your performance, dates of employment and your behaviour in a work context. If you cannot provide a work experience reference as outlined above, a Character Reference from someone well acquainted (but not related) to you e.g. School/University/Volunteer Group/Sports Club. This may not include members of the House of the Oireachtas or members of An Garda Síochána.

    It just says a character reference. I had one from a course I did and gave it to them. They were very happy with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scouseouse


    SMDT2020 wrote: »
    Thank you,
    I got word today and the interview is on 31st Jan. I assume you should get an interview as you have placed higher than me. I think they just interview the 'all year' category first and they will need to start placing people before summer.

    Congrats again on the interview. Not sure if there are 2 sets of rankings one for all year,other for summer only. Maybe someone on boards can clarify? The references thing is a problem for me as Ive been unemployed and returned to Ireland after >30yrs away.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scouseouse


    manus35 wrote: »
    Hi all, just noticed this thread. Got called to interview in February in Letterkenny when I was placed like 159 on OOM in Donegal.

    Out of work almost 3 years so panicking now about references.

    Has anyone used older references for this even though their booklet states in the last 3 years,

    Another problem is they want original and photocopy of the reference.

    I mean most organisations are now paperless and usually email you a reference to print,
    They are looking for something original and hard copy which is not always possible or practical

    Thanks , similar problem here Ive been unemployed for some years lived abroad and spent time caring for elderly relatives. Not activities which generate recent character references. My last employer had a no reference policy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 manus35


    Did you do any courses during the time you were off. You could ask a tutor. Or else go to someone who knows you priest solicitors etc. You can email them your references and you can tell them that you can't print it off. They can be very helpful.

    Thanks. For the reply, hoping to have two references sorted but they are very specific about what they want and any deviation from that seems to disqualify you.

    What's in booklet:

    Please note that all references must be typed on headed paper (where applicable), dated and signed. Handwritten references will not be accepted. All references must be originals i.e. Scans or Photocopies will not be accepted. References dated more than 3 years old will not be accepted. The onus is on the candidate to ensure they supply the references within the timeframe as specified by PAS. A candidate will be withdrawn from the competition should they fail to supply references within 5 days of their interview date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 manus35


    Scouseouse wrote: »
    Thanks , similar problem here Ive been unemployed for some years lived abroad and spent time caring for elderly relatives. Not activities which generate recent character references. My last employer had a no reference policy.

    I feel your pain.Im not sure what you can do other than ask your local priest or anyone associated with any clubs or societies you are part of.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scouseouse


    manus35 wrote: »
    I feel your pain.Im not sure what you can do other than ask your local priest or anyone associated with any clubs or societies you are part of.

    Thanks, I'm not religious so the priest option is out.. I help as volunteer at local community hall but that's run by my cousin.. All getting a bit difficult. I have no connections to gaa etc. Will have to take up some new activity to get a reference I expect. I may be able to get references from UK but that's more than 3yrs ago. I might ask advice from Intreo. Slightly surprised clergy references still a thing in Ireland , but I have been out of the country a few decades.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Scouseouse


    Scouseouse wrote: »
    Thanks, I'm not religious so the priest option is out.. I help as volunteer at local community hall but that's run by my cousin.. All getting a bit difficult. I have no connections to gaa etc. Will have to take up some new activity to get a reference I expect. I may be able to get references from UK but that's more than 3yrs ago. I might ask advice from Intreo. Slightly surprised clergy references still a thing in Ireland , but I have been out of the country a few decades.

    Best of luck Manus, hope you win that position in the process. The temp positions should be great opportunities for those out of the workforce for a while.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 funkey_lover20


    So I worked in DEASP last year and I am currently struggling to get a reference off of anyone inside there... when I contacted no one remembered me so it's a bit of an awks situation. I do have 2 character references from my last 2 employers would they suffice??

    How strict are they on the TCO references? 3 references sounds excessive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    manus35 wrote: »
    Thanks. For the reply, hoping to have two references sorted but they are very specific about what they want and any deviation from that seems to disqualify you.

    What's in booklet:

    Please note that all references must be typed on headed paper (where applicable), dated and signed. Handwritten references will not be accepted. All references must be originals i.e. Scans or Photocopies will not be accepted. References dated more than 3 years old will not be accepted. The onus is on the candidate to ensure they supply the references within the timeframe as specified by PAS. A candidate will be withdrawn from the competition should they fail to supply references within 5 days of their interview date.

    In practice they know that very few places give written references any more. And that includes some of the employers they're recruiting for.

    Just give them something so they can tick the box, even if it's not absolutely what they ask for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 manus35


    In practice they know that very few places give written references any more. And that includes some of the employers they're recruiting for.

    Just give them something so they can tick the box, even if it's not absolutely what they ask for.

    Yea,that's. What I'm hoping. Might have to give them a reference from 2015 if my most recent employer does t get back to me.

    Sad thing about it all though is that there isn't that many positions available; especially when you take into account OOM


  • Registered Users Posts: 931 ✭✭✭furrybones


    So I worked in DEASP last year and I am currently struggling to get a reference off of anyone inside there... when I contacted no one remembered me so it's a bit of an awks situation. I do have 2 character references from my last 2 employers would they suffice??

    How strict are they on the TCO references? 3 references sounds excessive

    A lot of departments won't give written references anymore. I read on another thread that PAS are aware of this and they will accept a TCO statement of employment in place of a reference.

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Blanchguy


    manus35 wrote: »
    Yea,that's. What I'm hoping. Might have to give them a reference from 2015 if my most recent employer does t get back to me.

    Sad thing about it all though is that there isn't that many positions available; especially when you take into account OOM

    Do you know how many positions are available?


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