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Irish Cancer society refusing donations from fox hunters

  • 14-02-2019 5:31pm
    #1
    robertpatterson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭


    I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up by now

    https://www.radiokerry.ie/irish-cancer-society-will-no-longer-accept-donations-associated-fox-hunting/?fbclid=IwAR29xqxzDZ832Ha_1RUWgGQtCyAjYHH1SaXJwodxxa939eTXWgYHrv4uKBk#
    The Irish Cancer Society will no longer take proceeds from the annual Abbeyeale Harriers Hunting Festival.

    The society says it made the decision following a number of objections from the public.

    The Abbeyfeale Harriers Annual Hunting Festival has been running since 2005 and has been donating the proceeds of the week-long event to the Irish Cancer Society since then.

    I'm disgusted that a few people who are fairly vocal have stopped funds going to cancer patients and research just because they happen to disagree with a lawful pastime.
    I'll be emailing the Irish Cancer society and telling them if the money raised from a hunting festival isn't good enough for them I'll be giving my few bob elsewhere come daffodil day .😠😠


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  • #2
    BryanL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭BryanL


    It struck me that there's no limit to what the Antis won't target.

    To campaign to lessen funding for cancer research really is something.

    I wonder how many animals are used for cancer research? Also I take some solas from the fact that the Irish cancer society are so well funded that they're comfortable turning away money.
    Bryan


  • #3
    James Bond Junior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    Beggars can't be choosers.


  • #4
    slipperyox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    lol
    A huge amount of cancer research involves animal testing.

    In particular, giving animals cancer in the first place. Beagles are good for this!

    At least a shooter is humane.

    Outright ideologues.
    Leave them to it.


  • #5
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Since the start of 2016 UCC has spent over half a million euro purchasing 27,116 animals for scientific research. Of this total, 22,641 were euthanised afterwards.

    These lads fox hunting are killing an average of one a year, if that.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #6
    solarwinds
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭solarwinds


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Since the start of 2016 UCC has spent over half a million euro purchasing 27,116 animals for scientific research. Of this total, 22,641 were euthanised afterwards.

    These lads fox hunting are killing an average of one a year, if that.

    Ah ya but apparently the fox is put under undue strain and pressure during the hunt, its not good for his psychological health god forbid he may develop cancer from the stress and worry of it all.
    These lads priorities are really messed up where an animal is given more rights and respect than their fellow human.


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  • #7
    cavan shooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Stopped giving to these big shot charities years ago. Keep it local, id sure there is a palliative care group in the community, your just paying these head sheds wages.
    They won't refuse money, same goes for Pieta house.....they've been infiltrated by the antis look up ICABs web pages..so now give to SOSAD or similiar local regional groups.


  • #8
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    solarwinds wrote: »
    Ah ya but apparently the fox is put under undue strain and pressure during the hunt, its not good for his psychological health god forbid he may develop cancer from the stress and worry of it all.
    These lads priorities are really messed up where an animal is given more rights and respect than their fellow human.

    Amazing the red fox hasn't become extinct centuries ago with all this stress and being pursued by dogs or wolves,or being prey itself, for large raptors . Strange,that it is known as the clever or sly fox in common terminology,or as the prince of thieves in the middle east.

    Good to not support this crowd because of their anti-hunt stance. But it has to be let known why others are not going to donate to them because of their anti-hunting position.So if you are not going to donate anymore, send them a note as to why, and that you stand in solidarity with the fox hunters.THey'll soon get the message.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #9
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I'd be wary of the charity sector in general in this country - the people who seem to do most well out of them are the CEO's!!


  • #10
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    robertpatterson wrote: »
    I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up by now  

    I did, two days ago.
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  • #11
    Eddie B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Eddie B


    Well I've just sent them a nice email. The anti's seem to be getting their views across of late, I think it's time we started shouting.


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  • #12
    robertpatterson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭robertpatterson


    Cass wrote: »
    I did, two days ago.
    I did look for it but didn't find it
    feel free to merge the threads


  • #13
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Nah, it's better off here in it's own thread. I stuck it in their because it related to the other lot.

    Wasn't having a go at you btw, just pointing out it was mentioned. :cool:
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  • #14
    270WIN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 213 ✭✭270WIN


    I emailed them earlier this week pointing out the fact about animal testing and that I and my buddies would never support them again.


  • #15
    Eddie B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Eddie B


    Well I got a fairly short responce from the Irish Cancer Society. All she really said was that they took the decision based on the amount of complaints they were receiving from their supporters, cancer survivor's, and their family's.

    (Supporters, cancer survivor's, and their families) = bloody ICABS!

    Well let's just say, I blew a f***ing fuse!!


  • #16
    Cass
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Eddie B wrote: »
    (Supporters, cancer survivor's, and their families) = bloody ICABS!
    Without the need for a tin foil hat, yup. I'd say so.

    I have family members and one Uncle i'm close to, that are going through treatment and i can guarantee if i said the organisations that are researching treatment or potential cures were refusing donations based on anonymous complaints about the method/source of that donation, they'd be rightly pissed.

    To think anyone suffering from cancer would put the well being of a vermin species over their own health is laughable. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, there are always a couple, but they are the exception, not the rule.
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  • #17
    solarwinds
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭solarwinds


    I can safely say without fear of contradiction that if you or one of your children are unfortunate enough to have been given a diagnosis of cancer that you will not care one bit where the money comes from to cure you.
    If cancer patients are that up in arms about this, which I do not believe for one second, is there now going to be a similar boycott placed on the labs and pharma companies who make the drugs that just saved there lives.
    This is all just about the public perception of an organisation who care more about image by the looks of it.
    They should have no criteria on who they take money off, at the end of the day this is peoples lives they are toying with.


  • #18
    fathersymes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭fathersymes


    Emailed them this:

    Good Evening, I would be grateful if you could clarify if the Irish Cancer Society has requested the Abbeyfeale Harriers to refrain from sending donations.

    If this is the case, I will no longer be donating to the Irish Cancer Society and I will also be removing my bequest to the ICS from my will. My family have pledged to do same.


  • #19
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    If an organisation such as the Irish Cancer Society doesn't want my money, then I'm absolutely fine with that. It means more money in my pocket for shooting.

    I'll be telling them that too.


  • #20
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    robertpatterson wrote: »
    I'm surprised this hasn't been brought up by now

    https://www.radiokerry.ie/irish-cancer-society-will-no-longer-accept-donations-associated-fox-hunting/?fbclid=IwAR29xqxzDZ832Ha_1RUWgGQtCyAjYHH1SaXJwodxxa939eTXWgYHrv4uKBk#
    The Irish Cancer Society will no longer take proceeds from the annual Abbeyeale Harriers Hunting Festival.

    The society says it made the decision following a number of objections from the public.

    The Abbeyfeale Harriers Annual Hunting Festival has been running since 2005 and has been donating the proceeds of the week-long event to the Irish Cancer Society since then.

    I'm disgusted that a few people who are fairly vocal have stopped funds going to cancer patients and research just because they happen to disagree with a lawful pastime.
    I'll be emailing the Irish Cancer society and telling them if the money raised from a hunting festival isn't good enough for them I'll be giving my few bob elsewhere come daffodil day .😠😠


    The "public" being ISCABS. They are so nice they even have a scripted format for those unable to write their own... :rolleyes:


  • #21
    BnB
    Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭BnB


    Jesus H, that makes me effin' sick. What a silly, ill-informed, narrow minded decision. I'm effin' fuming after reading that

    I am new to hunting and wouldn't have known much about it before my daughter got involved a few years ago. I've followed the hunt about 10 times in the last 2 years and I have not seen one single fox getting even close to being hurt.

    You would not find a crowd that has more love and respect for animals than the people I have met through the hunt.

    As someone who unfortunately has lost loved ones to cancer (probably like most people), I have always dug into my pocket when I see them fund raising. I will never give them a single penny again. Even if they were to reverse this decision now, I don't think I would as it has shown what kind of a crowd they are.

    As someone said above, support your local charities, hospices, support groups etc


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  • #22
    solarwinds
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭solarwinds


    Be interesting to know how much money if any the anti's have donated to the ICS over the years compared to field sports. And now that they are responsible for a loss of funds will they take up the slack.


  • #23
    sfakiaman
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    As a cancer survivor (so far at least) I find it hard to understand the logic of these people. I certainly won't be donating to ICS in the future, there are other organisations that help me.

    On a lighter note, before my third operation for colo-rectal cancer I gave my surgeon a gift of a Butt-Out tool and the whole surgical team knocked great craic out of it.


  • #24
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    While great saying we won't support these charities anymore. We need to let the ICS and any others in the future, exactly why we won't be giving them monies. Polite posts to their FB, twatter and homepage, is in order to let them know actions have consequences if you are going to be politically correct and bend to minority social justice warriors.:)

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

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  • #25
    solarwinds
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭solarwinds


    Jesus wept, I just spent the last 20 mins on ICABS facebook page and my god I'm not the better for it. Between the threats of violence and wishes of getting cancer and having a screaming death is there not some kind of law against that. Anyone whose comments disagree with their views is immediately attacked. Apparently we all have small penises, cant spell, have mommy issues and we are all about to become mass murderers.
    With the amount of threats of violence against people I would be worried only for the fact most of them are keyboard warriors.
    Jesus they are not right in the head.


  • #26
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    solarwinds wrote: »
    Apparently we all have small penises, cant spell, have mommy issues and we are all about to become mass murderers.
    Jesus their not right in the head.

    Which shows they cant construct one civilised, rational argument between them.Obviously have some sort of sexual problems,if they have to compare dick sizes.As if that somehow is going to stop us shooting&hunting...Plus they obviously haven't read what Freud said about the irrational fear of weapons...:D

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #27
    yubabill
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭yubabill


    I'm lazy his morning - anyone got a good ICS email to write to? Disgusted that cancer research relies heavily on vivisection and now the pot is calling the kettle black.


  • #28
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Does hunting cause cancer?


  • #29
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    yubabill wrote: »
    I'm lazy his morning - anyone got a good ICS email to write to? Disgusted that cancer research relies heavily on vivisection and now the pot is calling the kettle black.

    This email address is on their website for fundraising purposes: fundraising@irishcancer.ie


  • #30
    tac foley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Meanwhile, here in UK, the RSPCA and RSPB have each ripped the shooting community a new one in the last couple of years. We were annual donors to both organisations for well over forty years,but now they can do without our financial assistance, small though it was.


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  • #31
    tac foley
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    I had a major facial reconstruction just before Christmas to sort out a 'touch of cancer'. Like many of my genetic ilk, I'm very fair-skinned and when I had hair it was gingery-reddish - just the sort of breeding ground for skin cancer. After the op I looked like a man who had walked into an operating combiner harvester with both eyes closed, but it's healing up well now, and I no longer frighten the kids.

    Mrs tac and I are longtime supporters of the Marie Curie and MacMillan organisations over here, both of whom provide palliative care for cancer sufferers for whom nothing has worked out well. Until they climb on a high horse about treatment, we'll carry on supporting them in our small way, but any organisation that relies on the good will of the general public to raise funds to further their aims and then p*sses in their hats needs to take a good look at themselves.


  • #32
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    The ICS have short memories, 3 years almost to the day when they cut funding to cancer sufferers, because they were worried about lack of funds to pay chief executives.
    Daffodil Day that year was a flop. They rely on it to raise 3 million euro a year towards their wage bill of 6 million.


  • #33
    slipperyox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭slipperyox


    Time for a new charity.

    "Hunters against cruelty to animals"

    Sounds like an oxymoron, but it certainly isn't.

    First job is to ban all insect suffering from pesticides.
    They have nervous systems like any other animal, and don't deserve this slow painful death, just so advocadas and chick peas can be produced in huge numbers for in particular the vegan market...:confused:


  • #34
    yubabill
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭yubabill


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    This email address is on their website for fundraising purposes: fundraising@irishcancer.ie

    Cheers for that, Nk.

    I will point out to them that I shoot and fish and that I would be a hypocrite if I condemned fox hunting, while providing some examples where cancer research involved giving tumours to lab animals - thus the ICS is hypocritical in refusing funds from tobacco companies etc;

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30413412

    The above abstract might read like gobbledygook, but it reports a 60% success treating tumours in nude mice. how did the mice get the tumours? The scientists use a method called induced tumours. I read this stuff all the time as part of what I do.


  • #35
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Not to me personally,but to another hunt supporter.No doubt going to be the std pre written letter to us all.

    thank you for your message and I'm sorry you are disappointed.

    The Irish Cancer Society relies on members of the general public for 98% of our annual income. We are very grateful to the many people across the county that take time every year to fundraise and donate to us to help us provide support and care to thousands of cancer patients and their families.

    Following contact from a number of cancer patients/supporters who were upset about the Abbeyfeale Harriers Annual Hunting Festival, the Society requested that the organisers do not send a donation to the Society that is generated from fox hunt activities. This decision was made in light of the numbers of complaints that we received from cancer patients, their families and from the supporters we represent.

    Robert
    Irish Cancer Society

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #36
    solarwinds
    Registered Users Posts: 535 ✭✭✭solarwinds


    Rubbish


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  • #37
    Eddie B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Eddie B


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Not to me personally,but to another hunt supporter.No doubt going to be the std pre written letter to us all.

    thank you for your message and I'm sorry you are disappointed.

    The Irish Cancer Society relies on members of the general public for 98% of our annual income. We are very grateful to the many people across the county that take time every year to fundraise and donate to us to help us provide support and care to thousands of cancer patients and their families.

    Following contact from a number of cancer patients/supporters who were upset about the Abbeyfeale Harriers Annual Hunting Festival, the Society requested that the organisers do not send a donation to the Society that is generated from fox hunt activities. This decision was made in light of the numbers of complaints that we received from cancer patients, their families and from the supporters we represent.

    Robert
    Irish Cancer Society

    Exactly the same reply as I got, except it was from blood Mary instead of Robert.


  • #38
    Chiparus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Not to me personally,but to another hunt supporter.No doubt going to be the std pre written letter to us all.

    thank you for your message and I'm sorry you are disappointed.

    The Irish Cancer Society relies on members of the general public for 98% of our annual income. We are very grateful to the many people across the county that take time every year to fundraise and donate to us to help us provide support and care to thousands of cancer patients and their families.

    Following contact from a number of cancer patients/supporters who were upset about the Abbeyfeale Harriers Annual Hunting Festival, the Society requested that the organisers do not send a donation to the Society that is generated from fox hunt activities. This decision was made in light of the numbers of complaints that we received from cancer patients, their families and from the supporters we represent.

    Robert
    Irish Cancer Society

    How can they claim to represent cancer patients or their families?
    Given that many of us have also been affected by cancer.


  • #39
    yubabill
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭yubabill


    Dear Irish Cancer Society,

    In the light of ICS refusing fundraising donations from Abbeyfeale Harriers as a result of complaints ostensibly from members of the public concerned by perceived cruelty to animals.

    I believe the complaints were orchestrated by a vocal minority of activists and I am disappointed that ICS has responded by refusing donations from a group of people who actually afford the fox a chance to get away, unlike some of those involved in cancer research, who have and continue to, induce tumours into laboratory animals for decades.

    Surely it is incongruous for ICS to support cancer research which undoubtedly causes animal suffering, while dismissing donations on the same basis?

    It is incumbent on the ICS to consider its position on donations from Abbeyfeale Harriers, given the perceptions of cruelty which could be construed from the long and ongoing history of inducing/introducing cancer into laboratory animals, such as:

    1. A 2019 published study from US researchers reporting tumour regression in 60% of nude mice

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30413412

    2. A 1989 study of cancer therapy using excised carotid arteries from cats

    https://www.physiology.org/doi/abs/10.1152/ajpheart.1989.256.5.H1509
    Anti-EDRF effect of tumor necrosis factor in isolated, perfused cat carotid arteries | American Journal of Physiology-Heart and Circulatory Physiology
    1Department of Physiology, Jefferson Medical College, Thomas JeffersonUniversity, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107.
    www.physiology.org


    3. A 1953 study using methylcholanthrene to induce tumours in laboratory mice which includes reference to other authors' methods with mice and rats

    http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/13/12/835.long
    Antigenic Properties of Methylcholanthrene-induced Tumors in Mice of the Strain of Origin
    Experiments are described in which it was shown that immunity of C3H-He mice resulted following ligation and atrophy of methylcholanthrene-induced sarcomas which arose in mice of this inbred strain. The results are discussed in relation to previously reported experiments in which C3H-He mice were not immunized against mammary carcinoma by similar methods.
    cancerres.aacrjournals.org

    Yours faithfully,


  • #40
    tac foley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    @Yupabill - 'the squeaking wheel gets the grease'. 'twas ever thus, while the rest of us get on with it. Sure, we all have something that we find offensive or not to our liking. But we realise that complaining about it is like trying to put toothpaste back in a tube, or push rope uphill. Unless, of course, it's an emotive thing, like starving orphans in the Sudan. Nobody likes cancer, either, something I got to know about all too well in the months leading up to the new year.

    For an organisation that, in its own words, relies almost entirely on charity and legacies, ICS is not alone in singling out so-called blood sports, and use them to climb onto their high horse. In Ireland the hunt still actually hunts the fox - here in UK the un-missed Tony B Liar banned it. Here in UK the RSPCA AND Barnardos AND the RSPB sniped the legal gun-owner as being somehow working around the many laws that control the acquisition and use of our legally-held firearms - hinting that the difference between us and the likes of Michael Ryan and Thomas Hamilton was simply a matter of 'not yet'.

    I now put my charity in different directions, principally one that I know will never call me out because of my chosen sport. It helps former members of the Armed Forces who have lost their sight. Something that the ICS seems to have inflicted on itself without the benefit of bomb, bullet or bad health.


  • #41
    yubabill
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭yubabill


    Well said Tac.

    Nail, head, hit.


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  • #42
    tac foley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    If anybody here needs a recommendation where to send a few bob that's burning a hole in their pockets, may I respectfully recommend the RNLI.

    Living on islands, surrounded by often VERY unfriendly oceans, we are literally at the mercy of the waves every time we go to the beach or get on a boat.

    The RNLI has NO selective POV about receiving donations from anybody who sends them. And unlike the ICS, the RNLI are 100% reliant on charity. Apart from a few necessary professional mechanics, EVERY one of the crew is a volunteer.

    There are times when we would literally be lost without them.


  • #43
    Vizzy
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    I relayed my feelings on the matter to the local organiser of Daffodil Day and told her that ICS would be getting no more donations from me. In fairness, she was disgusted that the ICS had adopted their current stance.
    Ironically, they are launching Daffodil Day tomorrow at the local greyhound track.


  • #44
    wirehairmax
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭wirehairmax


    https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/365924/cancer-doesnt-distinguish-whether-youre-a-hunting-person-or-not-limerick-man.html#.XHGKqUeqkXM.facebook?refresh_ce?refresh_ce


  • #45
    tac foley
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    That is a great post.

    I find it difficult to comprehend what goes on in the minds of alleged cancer victims who notified the ICS that they were ''so upset' to find that their support was part-based on the efforts of a bunch of well-meaning people.

    Quote - 'The Irish Cancer society issued a statement in which it said: “Following contact from a number of cancer patients and supporters who were upset about the Abbeyfeale Harriers annual hunting festival, the society requested that the organisers do not send a donation to the society that is generated from fox hunt activities.”

    Are these cancer patients patients and supporters REAL? Or does the ICS have an agenda at odds with the definition of the term charity?

    Quote - 'Last week’s Limerick Leader featured a story on cancer patient John O’Keeffe. The Ballingarry man, who is a member of the County Limerick Foxhounds, organised a charity hunt before Christmas.A total of €7,000 was raised on the day and John divided the money between the Mid-Western Cancer Centre and Irish Motor Neurone Disease Association.

    John said the decision by the Irish Cancer Society is “tough” on the Abbeyfeale Harriers.

    “They have made an effort to organise and put in an effort to try and give money to charity. It is fairly disappointing. I went back to the hunt a few times myself over the years. Cancer doesn’t distinguish whether you’re a hunting person or not,” said John.

    I would take money from Satan himself if my wife or daughter developed this awful disease and money was needed to fight it.


  • #46
    marlin vs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    Its a sad case that it has come to this.


  • #47
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    I emailed them about it last week but they never replied.
    Either they are getting lots if messages, ir they just dont care.


  • #48
    Emmersonn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Emmersonn


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I emailed them about it last week but they never replied.
    Either they are getting lots if messages, ir they just dont care.


    Same here and no reply. No worries as it is their loss.


  • #49
    Bogwoppit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Letter sent to them this morning, I won’t hold my breath.

    Dear Sir, Madam,

    It is with great regret that I inform you that I will no longer be donating to your organization.

    The rejection of funds from a legitimate group undertaking completely legal activities leaves a sour taste in the mouth. Especially coming from an organization that supports (quite legitimately too) testing on animals for research.

    I believe you have been overly influenced by a very vocal minority who do little to support your fund raising.

    My donations may not amount to very much but I hope you take my comments and the comments I know have been made by many others like me into consideration.

    I will gladly resume donating to you again if you publicly apologize to the Abbeyfeale Harriers and once again accept their honest donations.


  • #50
    tac foley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    @Bogwoppit - I could not have written it better myself. Good letter, Sir!


  • #51
    Xcellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Xcellor


    There's a clear difference between using animals for the purpose of testing treatments / cures for cancer and hunting which is unnecessary in almost all cases and is purely for entertainment.

    Well done to ICS for taking up this position.


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