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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion Spring/Summer 2018

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    The sky is ripping itself asunder over Europe again. Plenty of strikes over the low countries and Germany.

    This happened earlier today

    https://twitter.com/judithjasper/status/988120415288680449?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭thomasj


    Crazy lightning storm over Germany and the Netherlands at the moment. Nonstop continues flashes.

    Spain getting it as well but with breaks between the flashes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    The best of it just missed Bristol when I was there on Saturday night but got about 10x strikes and some nice thunder. Very heavy rain, its a shame we never see the likes of it in Ireland really.

    And through the whole affair there was a blackbird doggedly singing away outside the hotel room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    A few countries in central europe seeing a lot of action today, well for them, love thunderstorms and lightening....until the piwer gets cut off that is, ha


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    A Convective outlook tomorrow with the passage of a trough over Ireland with sunny spells and should have big showers of rain and hail move across the country and perhaps some sporadic thunderstorms possible. Fresh wind from the SW /W. Some very cold uppers passing over the country. Would have thought a better chance for thunder on the Eastern half as diurnal heating takes effect in the afternoon, cape and lapse rates not that impressive but still a chance of a few sparks perhaps. Best DLS in the S.

    AROME model showing convective gusts associated with the showers I believe. Not much to go on compared to the recent storms in the UK but good practice whilst awaiting the big one here in Ireland :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Looks like the north are getting some strikes
    http://en.blitzortung.org/live_lightning_maps.php?map=12


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭vickers209


    short Heavy showers of hail in Wicklow very black clouds to the north but no sparks as of yet

    just noticed Mets new radar shows lightning strikes on the rainfall radar

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Looks like around the Munster region has the best chance of some thunder today although looks limited going by the charts.. Already seeing Cumulus bubbling up to congestus size inland from me here in Kerry this morning. Not much wind so slow moving cloud, where it rains could be quite heavy with hail possible. Interesting that temperatures set to drop very low in the afternoon in Munster, would presume from very cold heavy rain /hail and by then from lack of sunlight also ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Some very rapid convection in West Clare this morning, near no wind and big masses of cloud bubbling up and becoming heavy showers within an hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Sparks now near Dunmanway Cork


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Localized heavy downpours, very heavy around Tralee town around 14.00 -15.00 with a lot of surface water. The car was showing 5C in town at 15.00. Just 1.2mm recorded here outside Tralee and 7.6C atm.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭sumtings


    Was indoors under the hail in west limerick about 3ish for about 30mins, very heavy, didn't see the lightning or hear the thunder associated with it but was impressive none the less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Neddyusa


    I notice this afternoon/evenings showers appear almost stationary on the radar.
    So anyone unlucky enough to be under them must be getting a right soaking.
    Meanwhile we avoided them completely - really was a fantastic Spring day - calm, dry and wall to wall sunshine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Got a golfer's tan playing The Heritage near Monasterevin today. Perfect conditions; little or no breeze, lots of sun, with nice cloudscape building in the distance through the afternoon. Showers in all directions but completely missed us. Only around 13 degrees but felt very nice in the sun and was able to go around in just a polo. (I wore trousers too, don't worry).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    I escaped the showers outside Limerick city with the city itself escaping. Could see the showers around and especially to the west of my location. Temperatures dropped from a high around 12c in early afternoon to an unseasonably 8c at around 5.45 according to the temperature gauge in my car.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    ME mentioning a risk of Thunderstorms in the West: https://twitter.com/MetEireann/status/990545139042017281


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Showers should start getting more intense coming into the afternoon. Big shower near Athlone atm producing sferics.

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    http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/forecast.php?date=2018-04-29


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    Day 1 Convective Outlook
    VALID 06:00 UTC Sun 29 Apr 2018 - 05:59 UTC Mon 30 Apr 2018

    ISSUED 07:45 UTC Sun 29 Apr 2018

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    Greatest potential exists over central and western Ireland during the afternoon / early evening - but given a notable lack of shear, lightning activity is unlikely to be widespread enough to warrant a SLGT. Since no marginal threat level currently exists in our system, have reluctantly issued a low-end SLGT to better highlight this potential.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Some dark clouds around Cork City at the moment, Can't see the tops of them however as they are being covered. Heavy hail showers reported in places but none near me, hoping to see/hear something though. Cork Airport is however reporting that the clouds are Cumulonimbus.

    Mainland Europe is a hive of storm activity at the moment though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭Colser


    I think I've just heard thunder near Cork City.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Colser wrote: »
    I think I've just heard thunder near Cork City.


    Yea a couple of sferics showing up near Ballincollig, very heavy rain showing up too.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Netweather

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    Our meager few compared to the storms in Europe!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭lolie


    Meant to post this earlier today.
    Was at a communion after party yesterday evening (Saturday) and just by luck spotted a lovely funnel cloud in the distance at 7 o'clock.
    Probably about 7 -8 miles in the distance from looking at the radar return shortly after.
    Must've lasted about 10 minutes and changed shape a few times.
    The picture doesn't half do it justice as it's only a zoomed in phone pic, no one had a decent camera at hand.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Great catch lolie !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Excellent photos lolie!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Nice capture, I've still never been lucky enough to see one :)

    Doesn't look too far off a tornado in the last pic.

    I'd send an email to John Tyrrell at UCC, his team do site investigations and keep a database of all tornadic events in the country so he'd definitely be interested in that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭lolie


    Excellent photos lolie!

    Cheers Oscar but the photos are really poor compared to what it looked like in reality.
    Of course it had to happen the one Saturday evening i couldn't take off and get a closer look, to many beers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Nice funnel Lolie, whereabouts was it taken?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭lolie


    Iancar29 wrote: »
    Nice funnel Lolie, whereabouts was it taken?

    It was on the Virginia side of Oldcastle ian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    Here's 2 from last Sunday, had my son taking pictures for me, trying to pass on thev weather bug.

    Used to use imgur to imbed a smaller version of the pictures but can't get it to work on the phone. 😠


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Potential for Thunderstorms the weekend with a large area of very cold temperatures aloft and an upper trough which looks to me like it is in a negative tilt by Sunday. Charts showing potential from Fri. with big showers of rain and hail being forecast. Sunday could be quite active, will know more closer to the time. At the moment showing the most CAPE potential from the ECM on Sunday seen this year I believe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Lots of reports on Facebook that there is severe storms heading for UK. Hopefully we get a slice of the action.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Big convection getting going here in Kerry in good long spells of sunshine. A few might become electrified as they move inland.

    Perhaps a chance of sferics along the South coast tonight and early morning and some overland tomorrow. Sunday doesnt have the same potential as earlier charts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Recent lightning south of Carlow


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Im wondering if showers reach the South coast overnight could they produce sparks. Tomorrow looking like the best chance of some storms over the weekend with the Eastern half of the country most in the firing line, could be some big showers there tomorrow. Low chance of some activity in the W later tomorrow night perhaps ?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    http://www.convectiveweather.co.uk/


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    Day 2 Convective Outlook
    VALID 06:00 UTC Sat 12 May 2018 - 05:59 UTC Sun 13 May 2018

    ISSUED 20:04 UTC Fri 11 May 2018

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    Sharpening upper trough will drift slowly across Ireland, while digging south over Biscay. Within the trough axis, cold air aloft will result in steep mid-level lapse rates, generating 300-600 J/kg CAPE in response to diurnal heating.

    Deep convection will be ongoing at the start of the forecast period over the Celtic Sea, associated with a slowly-filling cut-off upper low. This convection will tend to weaken during the morning hours, with the focus then shifting northwards across the Republic of Ireland and eventually Northern Ireland. Under the trough axis, shear will be fairly weak and so pulse-type showers/storms are most expected - hence any lightning will tend to be short-lived and sporadic. Worth noting that subsequent model guidance have tended to make showers increasingly isolated compared to earlier runs, causing some uncertainty over likely coverage. Showers/storms will gradually decay through the evening, though further showers are likely close to Atlantic coasts overnight.

    On the forward side of the upper trough, a frontal wave will develop over France, pushing rain northwards into SE England and East Anglia. The exact track / shape of this wave remains uncertain, and hence timing and areas affected. Either way, on the eastern flank some weak instability may be present, with perhaps an isolated lightning strike - hence the inclusion of a LOW threat level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    I'm pretty sure I just heard thunder in Clondalkin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    DID I JUST HEAR THUNDER DN 20


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Few claps of thunder in Dublin 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭glossy


    Blanchardstown as well ðŸ˜! I want more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,971 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    I wonder is there a squall line starting to form just off waterford https://en.sat24.com/en/gb


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    2 flashes and rumbles d15. Very close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭lolie


    Some real nice convection way of in the distance to my northeast.
    Looks similar to when i seen the funnel cloud two weeks ago so might be worth keeping an eye out.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Very low amount of sferics recorded Fri /Sat, I thought there would have been more, not enough moisture in the atmosphere and lacking shear I guess, very low Relative humidity here in Kerry the last two days getting down to 61%.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Tornado captured today near Lobberich, close to Dusseldorf in Germany .


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    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/996824052286271488

    ( Getting up close and personal, a bit of understandable bad language used by the driver ! )

    https://twitter.com/severeweatherEU/status/996827716765847553

    https://twitter.com/EUStormMap/status/996822396987412480


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Well the uk have a few thunderstorm risks advised How's it looking for us this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Well the uk have a few thunderstorm risks advised How's it looking for us this week.

    Perhaps a few welsh imports into the east end of the week. However SST's are really against us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Had decent hopes for this weekend to see some possible storms. But as usual may just be looking on with the UK having all the fun.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    ECM not as good looking as earlier alright Pad but still a fair chance of storms perhaps. The ECM went off the boil all together but is coming back again.

    ARPEGE showing potential for Sunday.

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    GFS decent .

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    Netweathers NMM12 looks enormous still, not a bad model usually quite accurate.


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