Dublin routes news and general chat

Marcusm · 01-12-2020 5:43pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

If I was sending something to the US by Fedex, does it go from Dublin to CDG and then on to the US or somewhere else? What are the arrival/departure for the Fedex 767?

No idea te FedEx but, for example, I sent a form by DHL to Hong Kongvlast Thursday which transited via East Midlands and Leipzig. I assumed that is where it changed planes and that the flights may have had a number of thet stops en route.

EchoIndia · 01-12-2020 6:49pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

If I was sending something to the US by Fedex, does it go from Dublin to CDG and then on to the US or somewhere else? What are the arrival/departure for the Fedex 767?

From Dublin the FedEx 767 flies to STN and CDG Monday-Thursday at 1900 and on Saturday afternoon at 1500 - times approx. Return flights arrive early the next day. A trawl of FR24 records will give precise timings.

donkey balls · 03-12-2020 11:29pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

If I was sending something to the US by Fedex, does it go from Dublin to CDG and then on to the US or somewhere else? What are the arrival/departure for the Fedex 767?

Departs DUB for STN all US bound freight is off loaded at STN and loaded on to the MD11/777F bound for the US 2/3 departures MEM&EWR IND.
The 767 then continues on to CDG with more freight loaded at STN and it does CDG STN DUB.

Hotblack Desiato · 04-12-2020 12:47pm

Just four short sectors a day, that 767 has an easy life compared to most

Irish Steve · 04-12-2020 8:22pm

Cycles will be a lot higher than the normal for that sort of airframe, which has cost implications for things like gear, among other things, so it will probably be cycles that finish it rather than total airframe hours, unless it gets switched to other routes which are longer haul.

Cycles was one of the cost issues that went so badly against Aer Lingus and their 747's back in the days of the Shannon stop, their cycles were double those of an operator doing similar flights to the East Coast from Heathrow, which was a massive issue for competition.

donkey balls · 04-12-2020 8:47pm

The airframes be changed around for MX as Dub be the only place that would do those type of sectors, I heard JAL had the same issue flying intra country with the 747.

Hotblack Desiato · 04-12-2020 11:45pm

Point taken Steve and weren't EI's early 330s shagged out before their time by the stopover as well? Madness how that was ever allowed.

I was thinking in terms of revenue earned by that frame, can't be that much, but if you obtain it cheaply enough and keep it for long enough then the return on capital could be acceptable, I suppose.

EchoIndia · 04-12-2020 11:51pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Just four short sectors a day, that 767 has an easy life compared to most

The FedEx 767s operated intra-Europe are periodically rotated back to the USA (as were the A300s) so it’s not a permanent role for any individual aircraft.

Living Off The Splash · 05-12-2020 11:00am

I see that Aer Fungus are introducing a new Dublin Santorini route this coming summer. Looking at the return prices per person I am beginning to wonder if it would be cheaper to book a package holiday with a travel agent than book a DIY holiday myself.

IngazZagni · 05-12-2020 11:21am

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

I see that Aer Fungus are introducing a new Dublin Santorini route this coming summer. Looking at the return prices per person I am beginning to wonder if it would be cheaper to book a package holiday with a travel agent than book a DIY holiday myself.

This is generally how airlines do things. Far out they'll price things relatively high and see who bites. Over time the price will adjust based on demand so odds are the price will reduce over time.

Ryanair operated this route from Dublin this summer for a short period when Greece was on the green list so it'll be interesting to see if they decide to bring it back because if they do there'll probably be a squeeze on fare prices which will be great for us the consumer.

Locker10a · 05-12-2020 2:52pm

IngazZagni wrote: »

This is generally how airlines do things. Far out they'll price things relatively high and see who bites. Over time the price will adjust based on demand so odds are the price will reduce over time.

Ryanair operated this route from Dublin this summer for a short period when Greece was on the green list so it'll be interesting to see if they decide to bring it back because if they do there'll probably be a squeeze on fare prices which will be great for us the consumer.

Hopefully bother airlines will launch more Greek island flights I always felt there was a lack of service from Ireland to the popular Greek islands

Tenzor07 · 05-12-2020 7:23pm

Locker10a wrote: »

Hopefully bother airlines will launch more Greek island flights I always felt there was a lack of service from Ireland to the popular Greek islands

As the Greeks will tell you... Always avoid any Greek Island that has an Airport!

Nigel Fairservice · 06-12-2020 12:53pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

As the Greeks will tell you... Always avoid any Greek Island that has an Airport!

I’d well believe it. Santorini airport was chaotic when I was there. The queue for the check in desks was going out the door and around the corner of the terminal building. Some people were walking through security without being screened. Others even just walked around security without being called back.

California Dreamer · 06-12-2020 2:23pm

Timetables on respective sites aren’t great.

Any double daily flights to Barcelona/Madrid/Malaga during the next couple of months?

Van.Bosch · 06-12-2020 5:12pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

Timetables on respective sites aren’t great.

Any double daily flights to Barcelona/Madrid/Malaga during the next couple of months?

Looking for a day trip?

Tenzor07 · 06-12-2020 7:10pm

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I’d well believe it. Santorini airport was chaotic when I was there. The queue for the check in desks was going out the door and around the corner of the terminal building. Some people were walking through security without being screened. Others even just walked around security without being called back.

Every Greek Island airport is a disaster, Corfu was my particular stand out airport...it was chaotic, a shambles, any Covid distancing measures went completely out the window, truly the worst...wasn't like an Airport in the EU at all...

TK Lemon · 06-12-2020 8:42pm

Is there any chance of resumption of the Dublin to Kyiv route?

Seems to be unavailable on FR website even for summer and it's not even listed as a destination from DUB anymore.

BZ · 06-12-2020 9:59pm

Kos would give Corfu a run for its money. 1 hour queue on arrival in a hall with no air conditioning on arrival, all flights being put through two immigration posts. On departure 1 and half hours lining up outside and then into the smallest departure area after security screening I've seen. They were in the middle of extending the airport last year when there but even at that it was hard to see how it would cope with the passenger numbers it was seeing. After covid with less traffic may be a more pleasurable experience.

theguzman · 07-12-2020 12:36am

Has Lufthansa pulled out of Dublin entirely? or are we looking at just a temporary suspension of the Dublin-Frankfurt main route? I am thinking to go to South America in January and would't mind routing via FRA for an aul spin on the 747-800 to GRU. I am not a fan of unconnected transfers especially in this climate.

VG31 · 07-12-2020 1:11am

theguzman wrote: »

Has Lufthansa pulled out of Dublin entirely? or are we looking at just a temporary suspension of the Dublin-Frankfurt main route? I am thinking to go to South America in January and would't mind routing via FRA for an aul spin on the 747-800 to GRU. I am not a fan of unconnected transfers especially in this climate.

No they've just suspended DUB-FRA until 16 December.

cson · 10-03-2021 3:04pm

UA have pushed the IAD return to October, ORD downgauged to a 757.

Locker10a · 10-03-2021 4:19pm

Anyone any insight into TUIs planned schedule for the later half of the year, looking at booking a holiday for September, they’ve plenty of options on sale from Dublin but not sure what exactly their outlook is for operations? Anyone in the industry know when they plan their return to Dublin?

andrewfaulk · 10-03-2021 5:02pm

AA DUB-PHL to recommence on 28/03.. Aircraft is a 787-8

"American Airlines are delighted to announce the re-introduction of the DUB-PHL service.

Starting from 28th March 2021, AA will operate a daily flight.

Flight number AA723
Frequency Daily
Equipment B787-8

ETD 11:15
ETA 13:55"

cson · 10-03-2021 5:29pm

PHL-SNN is also loaded in AA's system from late summer with a 787.

I'll be surprised if that comes to fruition, the 787 is a lot of plane for a SNN route. Though with UA & DL holding out til 2022 maybe they fill it.

Blut2 · 10-03-2021 5:57pm

Delta are restarting their JFK-DUB route on April 2nd too. I wonder if the US airlines have some insider knowledge on the US entry ban on Schengen/UK&Ireland being removed at the end of this month - otherwise I've no idea where they foresee traffic coming from.

Its also a bit surprising Delta are leading with their JFK-DUB route. I would have thought with EI already running that exact route, EI running BOS-DUB, UA running EWR-DUB and AA PHL-DUB theres enough competition in that area for the little traffic there is. Restarting the ATL-DUB flight would surely have less competition.

basill · 10-03-2021 6:58pm

andrewfaulk wrote: »

AA DUB-PHL to recommence on 28/03.. Aircraft is a 787-8

"American Airlines are delighted to announce the re-introduction of the DUB-PHL service.

Starting from 28th March 2021, AA will operate a daily flight.

Flight number AA723
Frequency Daily
Equipment B787-8

ETD 11:15
ETA 13:55"

Thats a strange one with EI now being part of the Trans Atlantic agreement with AA/BA et al.

cson · 10-03-2021 7:08pm

Not that strange, for US origin pax AA route everyone in the US Northeast through PHL.

There are probably enough AA loyalists to sustain it along with pricing a couple of shuttles to BOS/NYC/DC competitively.

goingnowhere · 10-03-2021 7:15pm

Aer Lingus has a full schedule to Berlin, including double daily from end April...

Don't read anything into it, its just Summer schedule loaded and someone will come along and remove them shortly

xtradel · 11-03-2021 9:57am

goingnowhere wrote: »

Don't read anything into it, its just Summer schedule loaded and someone will come along and remove them shortly

About 6 weeks ago I saw Lufthansa had SNN-FRA listed for Saturdays with a return price of roughly €100. Around 2 weeks ago it shot up to €900 return!!

I questioned them on twitter and got the usual spiel about lower priced seats may have sold out and that as far as they know the flight will go ahead.

Lo and behold 4 days later flight disappears off system.

Masala · 11-03-2021 10:00am

xtradel wrote: »

About 6 weeks ago I saw Lufthansa had SNN-FRA listed for Saturdays with a return price of roughly €100. Around 2 weeks ago it shot up to €900 return!!

I questioned them on twitter and got the usual spiel about lower priced seats may have sold out and that as far as they know the flight will go ahead.

Lo and behold 4 days later flight disappears off system.

And last week ... cork announced 2 weekly to FRA with Lufthansa.

PinOnTheRight · 12-03-2021 8:26pm

Locker10a wrote: »

Anyone any insight into TUIs planned schedule for the later half of the year, looking at booking a holiday for September, they’ve plenty of options on sale from Dublin but not sure what exactly their outlook is for operations? Anyone in the industry know when they plan their return to Dublin?

No mention of DUB unfortunately but they seem to be making plans elsewhere with increasing use of 787s on short-haul routes for the summer. Subject to change etc etc.

https://simpleflying.com/tui-uk-widebody-summer-seats/

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 12-03-2021 11:57pm

Has Ryanairs route to Kiev been pulled?

IngazZagni · 13-03-2021 11:17am

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

Has Ryanairs route to Kiev been pulled?

Restarts in May now but like with most of their routes and frequencies these restart dates could continue to get pushed back as restrictions continue.

A319er · 23-03-2021 8:07pm

I read the receivership details in Irish Aviation news, also google throws up a link

I checked BHD to the 6daily destinations , all removed as of yesterday,

also all Dub to EDI/GLA removed

Messy receivership as only 8 aircraft owned and the owner is Probus !
Virgin are involved too, big money for the lawyers , solicitors, no money for staff.

I would be interested to know if the staffs shareholding will help the staff

Good
Luck to staff,

LXFlyer · 23-03-2021 8:08pm

Tenger wrote: »

Don't have a link but only EIR routes showing on Dublin departures over the last year are Donegal and Kerry.

So it's not a new announcement.

They certainly have been flying to Glasgow and Edinburgh from Dublin since flights resumed last year - that’s not correct.

There’s no departures from Belfast City either today or tomorrow, but there’s a flight showing to Manchester on Thursday morning on FR24 and it is for sale on the Aer Lingus website.

They’ve not been operating on the non-PSO routes every day, that’s certainly true.

IQO · 29-03-2021 11:58am

I missed this earlier on,

Turkish Airlines to Fly Dublin-Antalya Direct

Turkish Airlines is planning to operate a new route from Dublin to Antalya. The flight will operate three times a week – on Sunday, Wednesday and Friday.

Flight times are: depart Dublin at 16.25hrs to arrive in Antalya at 23.10hrs, Return timings are: depart Antalya at 12.25 hrs and arrive Dublin at 15.25 hrs.

The scheduled service will operate from 20 June until 12 October 2021 using Boeing 737-800s, in a two-class configuration of Business and Economy.

Around 360 euro roundtrip by the looks of it.

Van.Bosch · 29-03-2021 8:43pm

IQO wrote: »

I missed this earlier on,

Turkish Airlines to Fly Dublin-Antalya Direct

Around 360 euro roundtrip by the looks of it.

Not cheap

EchoIndia · 30-03-2021 12:22am

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Not cheap

Really? What would be a reasonable price? I say this as someone who remembers those £200 DUB-LHR return fares in the 1980s. In purchasing-power terms and for the distance involved, that fare for AYT looks decent to me.

Van.Bosch · 30-03-2021 12:36am

EchoIndia wrote: »

Really? What would be a reasonable price? I say this as someone who remembers those £200 DUB-LHR return fares in the 1980s. In purchasing-power terms and for the distance involved, that fare for AYT looks decent to me.

I get fares are cheaper now but they charge about 220 to Istanbul

theguzman · 30-03-2021 4:21am

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Not cheap

You'd save it in two or three nights prices compared to a ripoff Irish staycation in the misery rain, it is obvious that Turkey are hoping to attract a host of Irish tourists this year considering that Europe is so volatile and no one wants to keep going back to the Costas etc. The Turks are no fools that for sure. I'd prefer to pay the €360 to Turkish than suffer Ryanair and the thrashy clientele they attract, if its a Turkish widebody all the better.

Noxegon · 30-03-2021 8:04am

Van.Bosch wrote: »

I get fares are cheaper now but they charge about 220 to Istanbul

Istanbul is feeding their connecting network. Antalya is not.

VG31 · 30-03-2021 12:02pm

theguzman wrote: »

You'd save it in two or three nights prices compared to a ripoff Irish staycation in the misery rain, it is obvious that Turkey are hoping to attract a host of Irish tourists this year considering that Europe is so volatile and no one wants to keep going back to the Costas etc. The Turks are no fools that for sure. I'd prefer to pay the €360 to Turkish than suffer Ryanair and the thrashy clientele they attract, if its a Turkish widebody all the better.

It's a 737 but Turkish's 737s feel like a completely different aircraft to Ryanair with the better seats and IFE.

theguzman · 30-03-2021 4:49pm

VG31 wrote: »

It's a 737 but Turkish's 737s feel like a completely different aircraft to Ryanair with the better seats and IFE.

I had a spin on their A330 from DUB last month and the 787 from IST to GRU both very good aircraft and well appointed in economy. Istanbul new airport is worth the trek alone to marvel at this Cathedral of modern engineering, the biggest and most modern Airport I have been to, my top 3 with DXB and SIN.

robbie1876 · 02-04-2021 12:17pm

A319er wrote: »

I read the receivership details in Irish Aviation news, also google throws up a link

I checked BHD to the 6daily destinations , all removed as of yesterday,

also all Dub to EDI/GLA removed

Messy receivership as only 8 aircraft owned and the owner is Probus !
Virgin are involved too, big money for the lawyers , solicitors, no money for staff.

I would be interested to know if the staffs shareholding will help the staff

Good
Luck to staff,

Any link to this story, I can't find anything on Google. Thanks.

LXFlyer · 02-04-2021 12:47pm

robbie1876 wrote: »

Any link to this story, I can't find anything on Google. Thanks.

The poster admitted subsequently that the article was from last year, and that EI Regional is operating normally. I think those posts were removed.

They just don't operate every non-PSO route every day currently. Most activity is around the weekends.

robbie1876 · 02-04-2021 1:57pm

LXFlyer wrote: »

The poster admitted subsequently that the article was from last year, and that EI Regional is operating normally. I think those posts were removed.

They just don't operate every non-PSO route every day currently. Most activity is around the weekends.

Ah, ok. Many thanks for the clarification!

L1011 · 05-05-2021 7:55am

Cardiff resuming 3w in August on Stobart for EI. Exeter also, don't think it was mentioned there

Exeter definitely is operated by a Belfast based plane and I'd suspect Cardiff is too

LXFlyer · 05-05-2021 9:08am

L1011 wrote: »

Cardiff resuming 3w in August on Stobart for EI. Exeter also, don't think it was mentioned there

Exeter definitely is operated by a Belfast based plane and I'd suspect Cardiff is too

Very simple to check - just try a dummy booking and look at the times.

Cardiff is a Dublin based aircraft:

Dublin 13:55
Cardiff 15:10

Cardiff 15:40
Dublin 16:55

Irish Steve · 06-05-2021 10:57am

Given that Dublin Aerospace are now going to be running the former Flybe maintenance operation at Exeter,and offering services to ATR operators, the W routing from Belfast to Exeter and Dublin is perfect for swapping aircraft that are going in or back from maintenance, to either base, there could be days when 4 sectors are all operated by different aircraft. Way better than flying non revenue positioning sectors.

Living Off The Splash · 10-05-2021 2:45pm

I notice that Aer Lingus use an Airbus 320 on their Dublin to Nantes route but they use an ATR 72 on their Rennes route.

Any reason for this?

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