Filthy atheists stealing our Christmas

sensibleken · 08-11-2011 9:41am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Capital letters are not allegations of child abuse. You don't just ignore them!!

thanks for that. it was just illegible gibberish before the letters were bigger

sensibleken · 08-11-2011 9:43am

psychward wrote: »

The Christians ripped off the 25th of December from the Pagans anyway.

Where exactly is Santa Claus and Christmas Trees mentioned in the bible or even the Easter Bunny ? The Pagans are merely taking Crimbo back !

As for the Corporations like Coca Cola and Budweiser etc. I am sure most of them (the supermarkets for example) merely play Christmas Jingles while you shop because they think theres money in it for them (wrong in my case). They would worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster if it could make them money.
The last few years I started hearing sleighbell songs over the PA in Dunnes Stores towards the end of October. Feckin irritating.

Pagans arent taking anything back. The last thing you want is to hand it back to them anyway. they'd only mess it up with pseudo-historical nonsense anyway

MrStuffins · 08-11-2011 9:48am

Lads lads!!!!

I think we're missing a massive opportunity here.

Christmas shopping is a nightmare right?

Well we can get away with not buying presents! We can receive as many pressies as possible but then when they look for some back we can just say:

"I don't believe in all that Jesus Mumbo-Jumbo, sure what would I be doing celebrating this Christ-Mass you speak of? Now be gone with you, i've 7 new xBox games to play and a Die Hard 27 Disc Ultimate Edition to watch!"

psychward · 08-11-2011 9:53am

sensibleken wrote: »

Pagans arent taking anything back. The last thing you want is to hand it back to them anyway. they'd only mess it up with pseudo-historical nonsense anyway

It's obvious that commercialism is what Christmas is all about to an awful lot of people. Theres a larger queue of people out of the stores than in any of the Churches at any time of year. The rituals associated with Christmas e.g Christmas Tree, Christmas cards, Christmas sales etc are what's followed most ''religiously'' of all.

sensibleken · 08-11-2011 9:59am

psychward wrote: »

It's obvious that commercialism is what Christmas is all about to an awful lot of people. Theres a larger queue of people out of the stores than in any of the Churches at any time of year. The rituals associated with Christmas e.g Christmas Tree, Christmas cards, Christmas sales etc are what's followed most ''religiously'' of all.

Oh I agree. The religious stuff is sidelined. I just wouldnt want pagans taking it back as theyd religious it up again

psychward · 08-11-2011 10:07am

sensibleken wrote: »

Oh I agree. The religious stuff is sidelined. I just wouldnt want pagans taking it back as theyd religious it up again

It's all worship of money now. The only good thing about Christmas for me is the family get together and even then a bitter argument or two on the day is not unheard of. Personally I'd cancel the whole thing if it didn't at least make kids happy.

Darksaga87 · 08-11-2011 11:47am

Being dragged to mass ruins it for kids.

pH · 08-11-2011 12:17pm

Darksaga87 wrote: »

Being dragged to mass ruins it for kids.

Gotta agree, and to be fair the whole story of a little kid being born in a cowshed and getting crap presents throws a downer on proceedings for the little ones.

Dades · 08-11-2011 12:58pm

I wouldn't call gold a crap present!

http://www.cashforgoldireland.ie/

Cha-chinnggg!

sensibleken · 08-11-2011 1:01pm

pH wrote: »

Gotta agree, and to be fair the whole story of a little kid being born in a cowshed and getting crap presents throws a downer on proceedings for the little ones.

not to mention those three pissed up wierdos crashing the party

pH · 08-11-2011 1:02pm

Dades wrote: »

I wouldn't call gold a crap present!

http://www.cashforgoldireland.ie/

Cha-chinnggg!

tis is you're 6!

And you conveniently left out the bloody myrrh !!!

:pac:

Dades · 08-11-2011 1:07pm

pH wrote: »

And you conveniently left out the bloody myrrh !!!

http://www.cashformyrrhireland.ie/

bnt · 08-11-2011 1:14pm

New Humanist has a piece on this topic:
Daily Mail finally admits it was wrong about Winterval.

We stated in an article on 26 September that Christmas has been renamed in various places Winterval.

Winterval was the collective name for a season of public events, both religious and secular, which took place in Birmingham in 1997 and 1998.

We are happy to make clear that Winterval did not rename or replace Christmas.

So with the Daily Fail walking away from the "War on Christmas", is it finally over?

Galvasean · 08-11-2011 2:43pm

psychward wrote: »

Where exactly is Santa Claus and Christmas Trees mentioned in the bible or even the Easter Bunny ?

Jeremiah 10:2-4

King James Version (KJV)

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

psychward · 08-11-2011 2:57pm

Galvasean wrote: »

Jeremiah 10:2-4

King James Version (KJV)

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

hmmmm despite not mentioning the season etc it could be interpreted as condemning Christmas trees.

Beruthiel · 08-11-2011 3:04pm

Dades wrote: »

http://www.cashformyrrhireland.ie/

Site banned for spamming links in every post.

bnt · 18-11-2011 1:13am

Bill Maher's on the case again ... kinda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuiJWXOUqUQ

:pac:

MrStuffins · 18-11-2011 1:18am

I don't like Bill Maher. While watching his doc "Religious" I found him to be very rude and insulting to those he was interviewing.

Fine, they believe something you don't. But don't ask these people for an interview and then turn up and laugh in their faces.

It was, IMO, ridiculously one-sided and was just an attack piece. But maybe I should watch it again.

bnt · 18-11-2011 1:50am

Well, I posted that bit because it's specifically aboot the Phoney War on Christmas. He is a comedian first and foremost, don't forget, but I thought his film came too soon after the Ben Stein "Expelled" film, and used too many of the same tactics - leading questions, selective editing, and so on. His closing speech about Armageddon is dead on the mark, though.

mikhail · 22-11-2011 7:38pm

Saw this and thought of you guys.

Mr. Boo · 22-11-2011 7:55pm

http://www.gruffrhys.com/atheist-xmas-ep-furore/

Perfect A & A stocking filler!

Darksaga87 · 11-12-2011 2:06am

Galvasean wrote: »

Jeremiah 10:2-4

King James Version (KJV)

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

And he shall be nailed to the xmas tree and decorated with random stuff.

11-12-2011 10:48am

Just thinking....

Would people be better off if beside any public crib there was a mannequin with a nametag "Chris" standing on a weighing scales with an arrow pointing at the reading?

Then we would be celebrating Chris's mass!

(Well it's better than a Festivus pole!)

Dades · 11-12-2011 10:53am

^^ I think that idea should really involve a bath of water and some displacement. :pac:

Ellis Dee · 11-12-2011 11:01am

Moses is Moses, but business is business.;)

It astonished me to discover that Christmas is a big thing in Japan and Singapore, neither of which is particularly Christian. But Christmas has really caught on in those countries.:)

It's all about merchandising. One of the funniest things I've seen was a huge advertising billboard in Orchard Road, Singapore (33 degrees Celsius, humid) advertising Finnair flights to see Santa Claus at the Arctic Circle in Lapland.:p

I have no doubt that people in Ireland will still continue to celebrate Christmas in some shape or form long after the entire nation has wised up and no longer believes all that sky fairy, talking snake bumpf.:cool:

Doctor DooM · 11-12-2011 1:13pm

This thread has been rather successful in killing off the usual glut of threads. Good games, as they say.

fitz0 · 11-12-2011 1:17pm

Ellis Dee wrote: »

I have no doubt that people in Ireland will still continue to celebrate Christmas in some shape or form long after the entire nation has wised up and no longer believes all that sky fairy, talking snake bumpf.:cool:

I wonder what Christmas will eventually become in about 1000 years time when this "original" Christian meaning is hopefully long forgotten. Perhaps it will be the creation of our robot overlord, humanity forced to pay tribute once a year. Or the birth of the great Google, the messiah who brought technology to the masses. Or maybe just gone completely.

iguana · 11-12-2011 7:33pm

fitz0 wrote: »

I wonder what Christmas will eventually become in about 1000 years time when this "original" Christian meaning is hopefully long forgotten. Perhaps it will be the creation of our robot overlord, humanity forced to pay tribute once a year.

Like this?

The Quadratic Equation · 11-12-2011 9:49pm

^ the strange fantasies of some atheists

Sonics2k · 11-12-2011 10:35pm

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

^ the strange fantasies of some atheists

buzz_killington_191x300_So_troll-s191x300-152037-535.jpg

Sarky · 11-12-2011 11:03pm

Oh don't act like a robo-Santa with a laser tommy-gun wouldn't be totally awesome, you big wet blanket, you.

Coriolanus · 11-12-2011 11:07pm

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Moses is Moses, but business is business.;)

It astonished me to discover that Christmas is a big thing in Japan and Singapore, neither of which is particularly Christian. But Christmas has really caught on in those countries.:)

It's all about merchandising. One of the funniest things I've seen was a huge advertising billboard in Orchard Road, Singapore (33 degrees Celsius, humid) advertising Finnair flights to see Santa Claus at the Arctic Circle in Lapland.:p

I have no doubt that people in Ireland will still continue to celebrate Christmas in some shape or form long after the entire nation has wised up and no longer believes all that sky fairy, talking snake bumpf.:cool:

Apparently there's a city in China that's the xmas decoration manufacturing capital of the world. They're having a bumper year this year because the Chinese are going for Xmas in a bigger and bigger way every year.

strobe · 12-12-2011 5:59am

Doctor DooM wrote: »

This guy agrees

Broken colourful shape box man? I love that guy.

Jimoslimos · 12-12-2011 6:03am

The Quadratic Equation wrote: »

^ the strange fantasies of some atheists

True story, documented visual evidence and all:pac:

Dades · 15-12-2011 1:36pm

Though this was funny (in a 'humans are stupid' way).

http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/forum/topics/christmas-trees-banned-in?xg_source=activity

A Jewish mayor banning Christians from putting up Saturnalia trees.

EDIT: Oops - from last year!

robindch · 15-12-2011 1:47pm

Dades wrote: »

A Jewish mayor banning Christians from putting up Saturnalia trees.

The site had a good ad though:

the_syco · 15-12-2011 5:29pm

MrPudding wrote: »

Please chip in if I missed anything.

WHy does the new year start 6 or 7 days after jesus was supposedly born?

Elliemental · 16-12-2011 1:26pm

Yes, I know. I am such a hypocrite for celebrating a Pagan festival that was merely co-opted by the Christians X amount of centuries ago. I don't even believe in one God, never mind several. Hmmm.. What should I do instead?

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 2:13pm

Do you decorate a tree; buy gifts for your kids; have a traditional meal at Christmas? If not don't you think it's unfair your kids are missinh out because of your views?

16-12-2011 2:14pm

how original :rolleyes:

robindch · 16-12-2011 2:20pm

sandmanporto's new thread moved to avoid ranting in duplicate

Sarky · 16-12-2011 2:23pm

I've had a tree and flashy lights spelling out BAH HUMBUG up in my house since before last Christmas. Good decorations are good regardless of whatever bullcrap they signify.

I use the tree as a hat stand sometimes.

Dades · 16-12-2011 3:29pm

What's an Extreme Atheist, and where do I get one?

Doctor DooM · 16-12-2011 3:30pm

We'd done so well

Shame on you, sandmanporto. Shame.

16-12-2011 3:30pm

Dades wrote: »

What's an Extreme Atheist, and where do I get one?

i think you have to join the "adopt an atheist" queue

Blackhorse Slim · 16-12-2011 3:32pm

If you adopt an atheist, is it for life or just for christmas?

sensibleken · 16-12-2011 3:48pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Do you decorate a tree; buy gifts for your kids; have a traditional meal at Christmas? If not don't you think it's unfair your kids are missinh out because of your views?

dont have a traditional meal because im a vegan. Dont have kids, Do have a dog though and he gets reindeer antlers

sandmanporto · 16-12-2011 4:40pm

Right. Nobody really anwsered and regardless whether you are vegan or haven't got kids I was speaking hypothetically. Im agnostic by the way but I enjoy the holiday. Having one day off a year like xmas is nice and very warm. Why abolish it? What would you replace it with?

MagicMarker · 16-12-2011 4:43pm

sandmanporto wrote: »

Right. Nobody really anwsered and regardless whether you are vegan or haven't got kids I was speaking hypothetically. Im agnostic by the way but I enjoy the holiday. Having one day off a year like xmas is nice and very warm. Why abolish it? What would you replace it with?

Agnostic theist or agnostic atheist?

Shiner11 · 16-12-2011 4:44pm

What can you say to an atheist at this time of year?
You can't say Merry Christmas as they don't believe in God.
You can't say Merry Xmas because they don't go to mass.

What should you say to them?

Filthy atheists stealing our Christmas

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