Demon's Souls - PS5

johnny_ultimate · 19-11-2020 8:48pm

1-1 down.

Last time I said that Barack Obama was US President, new episodes of Lost were still being made, and Call of Duty games were still good. Makes you think.

ShaneU · 19-11-2020 9:46pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

It’s nearly exactly 11 years since my copy of Demon’s Souls PS3 arrived from the US (actually Canada). At the time it was a niche oddity gaining a small cult following due to some positive word of mouth and reviews. Absolutely mad in hindsight that the same game is the big blockbuster launch title for the PS5.

It was the first game I ever imported. Didn't come out in Europe for another 9 months

Retr0gamer · 19-11-2020 10:22pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

It’s nearly exactly 11 years since my copy of Demon’s Souls PS3 arrived from the US (actually Canada). At the time it was a niche oddity gaining a small cult following due to some positive word of mouth and reviews. Absolutely mad in hindsight that the same game is the big blockbuster launch title for the PS5.

Kirby wrote: »

Did the EXACT same thing. An imported version from Canada. Was my first taste of souls.

ShaneU wrote: »

It was the first game I ever imported. Didn't come out in Europe for another 9 months

Import noobs. You need to git gud. I was there at ground zero after the eurogamer review waiting for NCSX to get copies in stock from Hong Kong.

I spent the last 80 euros of my phd grant money on it. That was a long time ago!

F1ngers · 19-11-2020 10:47pm

Standing outside the Phalanx fog, will either tackle him 1st thing tomorrow or restart with a new character.
Selected soldier as starting class just to get into a game asap, might pick a different character.

Absolutely loving it, a thing of beauty.

Keep pressing square instead of R1/R2, have wasted a shed-load of grass, resin and firebombs.

Zero-Cool · 19-11-2020 10:56pm

What builds did ye go for? I went with Knight as i usually do, took off the pants, gloves and boots for the quick roll though

Bluepoint deserve some kind of an award to what they did with this game. Looks and plays incredible.

Taltos · 19-11-2020 11:00pm

Went with Wanderer but after the game froze I restarted as Royal, like my magic...

Mr.Fantastic · 19-11-2020 11:17pm

Played all the soulsbourne and sekiro , so was expecting something the same , but jesus this is tougher ! Feels like I need to relearn all over again , it's gorgeous though the lighting and everything .

johnny_ultimate · 19-11-2020 11:48pm

Went Royal, and boy is it a powerful build from the off. The recharging magic and soul arrow are a deadly combo.

BeerWolf · 20-11-2020 1:34am

/reeeeeeee

Jealous of all you bastards playing, got to wait till next year for the next wave of consoles to hit the stores...

Zero-Cool · 20-11-2020 4:08am

Not sure if already mentioned but there's a secret door in 1-3 added by bluepoint. It's behind a new illusionary wall. A speedrunner finally got in, will spoiler the rest.

How to get in:

collect 30 ceramic coins (new item, rare drop). Trade with the crow who will give a rusty key to open the door.

What's behind the door:

a body lying on the bench with armour you can loot. The armour resembles the penetrator boss

All_in_Flynn · 20-11-2020 3:30pm

Few hours into this now and its my first time playing any of these souls type games. Decided to start as Knight build.

It looks amazing and really liking the mechanics. Starting to get a hang of the combat system. Have no idea what I'm doing with ring's etc but I'm sure I'll learn.

Only part I kept dying on thus far is on 1.1 where

When you come up the stairs after unlocking the shortcut near the start and you go right. There is a knight with a red kind of flaming face across a narrow bridge. Died multiple times at the end of his spear so just left if for the moment.

Beat the giant blob boss thing first time and am now on other bridges with that big red dragon raining fire down. Are you meant to kill that somehow?

Also, loving all the little community tips around the place. Have come in handy once or twice.

F1ngers · 20-11-2020 3:45pm

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Only part I kept dying on thus far is on 1.1 where
Beat the giant blob boss thing first time and am now on other bridges with that big red dragon raining fire down. Are you meant to kill that somehow?

Time your run to the 1st building - you can snipe the red dragon from there with your bow and arrow.

You can also time your runs to each section.

biggebruv · 21-11-2020 1:09am

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

Played all the soulsbourne and sekiro , so was expecting something the same , but jesus this is tougher ! Feels like I need to relearn all over again , it's gorgeous though the lighting and everything .

In what way is it tougher than sekiro that game was impossible for me lol

Mr.Fantastic · 21-11-2020 1:28am

biggebruv wrote: »

In what way is it tougher than sekiro that game was impossible for me lol

Sekiro was tough , I might have used a guide for a few bosses but tbh it's all about the parrying and getting that down tbh. It's a very satisfying combat system once it clicks.

Taltos · 21-11-2020 9:07am

Parrying in souls.
Nope never been able to do that properly, end up grinding.
Tried again here and in Boletaria at the intro bridge I’d lost half my health with the puny dredging. Back to dodge, attack and magic I think.

petes · 21-11-2020 10:35am

It's definitely tough, for me anyway. But I found the other soulsbourne games the same and persevered.

The loading times make a massive difference if you are dying in a particular area a lot!

At the heart of it though it's excellent. Finished as much as I can do in the first world and making my way through the second, slowly though ha!

SomeSayKos · 21-11-2020 3:30pm

I've never parried in the souls games. I usually rolled or taken the hits on my shield however I'm finding parrying in demons souls way easier. I think its having the game running at 60fps makes the timing more manageable

SomeSayKos · 21-11-2020 3:32pm

I am LOVING this game. Best launch day game I've played since mario 64!

johnny_ultimate · 22-11-2020 12:51am

So it’s been so long since I played this it feels like discovering it afresh - I know parts of it well, but others I barely remember. I’d definitely have been of the opinion before that Demon’s Souls was something of an incredible ‘test run’ before Dark Souls perfected the formula. But honestly I’m seeing the benefits of this game’s structure - not ‘better’ or ‘worse’ than the more interconnected approach, simply refreshingly different.

I think in particular this might have the best ‘shortcuts’ of any game. When you finally look back around and pull the lever that gets you back to the Archstone, it’s a hell of a feeling! You can scratch off that chunk of level, and you’re that bit closer to the boss. The more copious bonfires of the later games absolutely have their place, but each level here being its own sort of loop is immensely satisfying.

Also: those bosses! Even without the next-gen coat of paint (the armour spider bit looks incredible) they’re definitely some of From’s finest creations.

SomeSayKos · 22-11-2020 1:59pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

What builds did ye go for? I went with Knight as i usually do, took off the pants, gloves and boots for the quick roll though

Bluepoint deserve some kind of an award to what they did with this game. Looks and plays incredible.

I went with temple knight. Just transitioned from the crescent falchion to the crushing axe.
Just about to finish off the 'prison of hope' level. The atmosphere is incredible!

Markitron · 23-11-2020 10:33am

I started off with a Knight as that is how I usually play these games, but since magic is apparently OP in this, is there a way to mix a little magic into my build?

F1ngers · 23-11-2020 10:36am

Markitron wrote: »

I started off with a Knight as that is how I usually play these games, but since magic is apparently OP in this, is there a way to mix a little magic into my build?

There is.
You can learn some basic magic from characters in the nexus.

For advanced magic, you need to find certain characters in various levels.

Markitron · 23-11-2020 10:42am

F1ngers wrote: »

There is.
You can learn some basic magic from characters in the nexus.

For advanced magic, you need to find certain characters in various levels.

Is there a viable build for adding magic to my character?

Mr.Fantastic · 23-11-2020 10:50am

A few bosses down now in this have done four of the -2 bosses.

Still standard knight character with my longsword wondering if getting

Boss soul weapons requires a +8longsword plus the soul

Cause if so that's some pain in the ass also don't know which of them is worth it any hints appreciated.

F1ngers · 23-11-2020 11:11am

Markitron wrote: »

Is there a viable build for adding magic to my character?

Get your magic up to lvl 14 allows you to equip 2 x basic spells(soul arrow/fire spray) or 1 x medium spell(homing soul/fireball), any of these will be enough to compliment your knight build.

Markitron · 23-11-2020 11:14am

F1ngers wrote: »

Get your magic up to lvl 14 allows you to equip 2 x basic spells(soul arrow/fire spray) or 1 x medium spell(homing soul/fireball), any of these will be enough to compliment your knight build.

Perfect thanks, I haven't levelled up yet but the rough plan is to start leveling enough so I fast roll in my Knight Armor

F1ngers · 23-11-2020 11:38am

Mr.Fantastic wrote: »

A few bosses down now in this have done four of the -2 bosses.

Still standard knight character with my longsword wondering if getting
Boss soul weapons requires a +8longsword plus the soul

Cause if so that's some pain in the ass also don't know which of them is worth it any hints appreciated.

Unless you're going for the platinum in this game, I wouldn't pay too much attention to boss soul weapons.
Your +5/6 sword/mace/katana/axe will be enough to get through the game.

If you are going for platinum, then it's a world of pain(nice kind of pain though).
You will need to know what you're doing - prepare to grind.

https://demonssouls.fandom.com/wiki/Demon%27s_Souls_Wiki

Retr0gamer · 23-11-2020 11:40am

You kind of have to get the moonlight great sword though. It may not be much use but it's in every From game, even the mech ones where it has no right to be in.

Zero-Cool · 23-11-2020 11:42am

Markitron wrote: »

Perfect thanks, I haven't levelled up yet but the rough plan is to start leveling enough so I fast roll in my Knight Armor

Set yourself free and take off your pants, gloves and helmet. You can fast roll then until you level up. I find fast rolling more important than armour stats.

Markitron · 23-11-2020 11:46am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Set yourself free and take off your pants, gloves and helmet. You can fast roll then until you level up. I find fast rolling more important than armour stats.

Yea I considered that but the armour is weirdly part of the atmosphere of the game for me. Like my player character isn't taking things seriously by walking around with no jocks.

Zero-Cool · 23-11-2020 11:47am

Markitron wrote: »

Yea I considered that but the armour is weirdly part of the atmosphere of the game for me. Like my player character isn't taking things seriously by walking around with no jocks.

HA fair point

SomeSayKos · 23-11-2020 11:53am

Markitron wrote: »

Yea I considered that but the armour is weirdly part of the atmosphere of the game for me. Like my player character isn't taking things seriously by walking around with no jocks.

FashionSouls 4 life!

Mr.Fantastic · 23-11-2020 12:27pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

You kind of have to get the moonlight great sword though. It may not be much use but it's in every From game, even the mech ones where it has no right to be in.

Indeed it looks class, even made an appearance in BB.

SomeSayKos · 23-11-2020 3:04pm

Just cleared the Valley of Defilement last night. The boss was pretty dang easy. Overall I've not had much issue with the bosses, great encounters though!

Vicxas · 23-11-2020 4:56pm

I do miss bonfires in some way, but its not game breaking for me.

All_in_Flynn · 23-11-2020 5:01pm

Incredible game thus far. Haven't been able to put a huge amount of time into it but just cleared boss in 2-1 handy enough. Only boss so far of the 3 I haven't beaten first time round is 1-2

Giant Knight. Couldn't time his attacks.

Can't believe I've never played these games before. Really enjoying it. Can I just ask!? I spend an inordinate amount of time making sure to destroy every bit of breakables/furniture in the environments I can. Am I wasting my time or do you ever find stuff when breaking them?

Retr0gamer · 23-11-2020 5:09pm

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Can't believe I've never played these games before. Really enjoying it. Can I just ask!? I spend an inordinate amount of time making sure to destroy every bit of breakables/furniture in the environments I can. Am I wasting my time or do you ever find stuff when breaking them?

You get nothing from breaking it but From Software can be nasty and hid stuff behind it. No point repeatedly breaking stuff.

johnny_ultimate · 23-11-2020 5:11pm

Explore every single corner if you can. This is a game that consistently rewards (and occasionally punishes :pac:) curiosity. I mean, the pot itself may not always have an item, but you never know where there’s a hidden door

SomeSayKos · 23-11-2020 5:46pm

All_in_Flynn wrote: »

Can't believe I've never played these games before. Really enjoying it. Can I just ask!? I spend an inordinate amount of time making sure to destroy every bit of breakables/furniture in the environments I can. Am I wasting my time or do you ever find stuff when breaking them?

The odd time you might find a nice secret passage behind some breakable stuff but the main reason for breaking everything is that it's incredibly satisfying

ABR (always be rolling)

Markitron · 24-11-2020 9:54am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Set yourself free and take off your pants, gloves and helmet. You can fast roll then until you level up. I find fast rolling more important than armour stats.

I increased my endurance and now my Knight can fast roll when I take off my gloves. He still looks like a spare prick though.

SomeSayKos · 24-11-2020 10:28am

Hey, I've a question about world tendency. Is there any way to bring world tendency back up after you've brought it down to pure dark?

F1ngers · 24-11-2020 10:45am

SomeSayKos wrote: »

Hey, I've a question about world tendency. Is there any way to bring world tendency back up after you've brought it down to pure dark?

Beat world bosses and black phantom invaders to shift to white.
There are also black phantoms in some worlds, defeating them shifts it white too.

Killing some NPCs will send it to black tendency.

SomeSayKos · 24-11-2020 10:49am

F1ngers wrote: »

Beat world bosses and black phantom invaders to shift to white.
There are also black phantoms in some worlds, defeating them shifts it white too.

Killing some NPCs will send it to black tendency.

Thanks for that!

Retr0gamer · 24-11-2020 11:03am

In the original game dying while in human form will shift the world to Black as well. So be careful after a boss, you'll see a lot of bloodstains of people suiciding in the Nexus to avoid this.]

Co-op is probably the fastest and most fun way of getting it to white. If you beat the boss it will shift to white.

SomeSayKos · 24-11-2020 11:15am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

In the original game dying while in human form will shift the world to Black as well. So be careful after a boss, you'll see a lot of bloodstains of people suiciding in the Nexus to avoid this.]

Co-op is probably the fastest and most fun way of getting it to white. If you beat the boss it will shift to white.

I've been playing in Soul form. Actually, can you co-op in Soul form?

Markitron · 24-11-2020 11:21am

SomeSayKos wrote: »

I've been playing in Soul form. Actually, can you co-op in Soul form?

You can help other people in co op but you can't invite them to help you.

SomeSayKos · 24-11-2020 1:49pm

I am loving the photo mode. After I killed the

Dragon God

I spent around 20 mins setting up a victory photo.

SomeSayKos · 24-11-2020 4:33pm

Is there any way to reallocate your stats?

Retr0gamer · 24-11-2020 4:41pm

SomeSayKos wrote: »

Is there any way to reallocate your stats?

Nah you're screwed.

Except stats aren't all that important. You'll be fine but you really should think of a build and min max it if you are worried.

SomeSayKos · 24-11-2020 4:48pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Nah you're screwed.

Except stats aren't all that important. You'll be fine but you really should think of a build and min max it if you are worried.

Ah ok. I just need 2 more levels for intelligence and was just wondering if I could take 2 of my vitality levels away to make up the difference. Looks like I'll be doing some farming over at 4-2 after work! :pac:

Demon's Souls - PS5

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