Dublin 15 Historic Pictures Thread

lmmoonbeam1976 · 23-09-2010 11:16am

Enii wrote: »

Did this have hidious knitted cardigans and white underpants in the window display?

Or am I remembering horrible window displays that never existed?

Yes thats the one -- and if you did venture into it -- it smelled old

skregs · 30-09-2010 11:45pm

Blue line is the canal
Orange Circle is Castleknock Train Station
Green Circle is the 12th Lock
You can see the church in Blanch village in the red circle
Pink X is more or less where the hospital/waterville is
White bit is where the centre is now (more or less)

suey71 · 09-11-2010 11:47pm

I was taking a look at the Blanchardstown Area Partnership site tonight and I came accross some old photos that I haven't seen before.

www.bap.ie

On the right hand side of the Homepage in orange halfway down, there is a Then and Now calender.

They seemed to have changed the site layout today. Just click on Bap News and the calender should come up.

Gaspode · 21-11-2010 11:41pm

Not sure where I got these, been in the pc a while.

Shows Dublin west in the 19th Century, many of the place names recognisable today.

1837
picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=7864

1848, hasn't changed much in the few years since the previous map.

picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=7863

January · 22-11-2010 2:01pm

Love the spellings, Malhuddart and Courtduff etc wonder when they were changed or if it was a mistake?

suey71 · 22-11-2010 2:02pm

Great find.

Interesting to note that there is a chapel where the old presbytary is on the Porterstown rd. I read that this old house was where the very first St.Mochtas school was back in the Penal times.

Btw. the house still there. Its the beautiful old Georgian house just after the scouts den.

I could spend all day looking at that map.

BostonB · 22-11-2010 5:03pm

Cool map.

ciaran76 · 22-11-2010 6:21pm

Just above Westmanstown there is a place called "Pass if you can" ????

Zaph · 22-11-2010 10:05pm

I think it's a shame that Upper Gunicks no longer exists.

Interesting that there was a second Huntstown at one time.

Gaspode · 22-11-2010 10:11pm

ciaran76 wrote: »

Just above Westmanstown there is a place called "Pass if you can" ????

Still there!

Check Google maps 53.385069,-6.458502

ciaran76 · 23-11-2010 11:31am

Gaspode wrote: »

Still there!

Check Google maps 53.385069,-6.458502

As a kid I used to cycle that way almost every week during the summer holidays. Never knew it had that name.

chucknorris · 25-11-2010 11:45am

py2006 wrote: »

I am finding it hard to get my barings on this pic! Is that Blanchardstown Church towards the top left?

It seems to be a different angle or is that because the roads are different! Is the road that starts from the bottom left the road coming from Castleknock? The turn left into Blanch village seems a bit more angular in them days?

Corduff park is in the top right hand corner.

chucknorris · 25-11-2010 11:48am

adrieanne__x wrote: »

Love the spellings, Malhuddart and Courtduff etc wonder when they were changed or if it was a mistake?

warrenstown house in corduff was called courtduff to distinguish form corduff ie: the townland.

corduff is on record as the name of that place as far back as the 1300's.

it is a celtic name and would been associated even longer than that date as that time simply coincided with records being taken etc.

:eek:

F.Russell · 24-01-2011 6:21pm

Gaspode wrote: »

An aerial view of Blanchardstown, but unfortunately I cant find a date for it. Anyone care to try identify some of the landmarks?

I am about to reply to Thread No. 11

F.Russell · 24-01-2011 6:57pm

This aerial photograph was taken from east of the Royal Canal during the Summer, as evidenced by the white rings in some of the fields where haycocks recently stood. In the foregrond of the picture is the chimney stack of the British Margarine factory, while to the left is Castleknock Bridge and, to its left is Bradys farm where many villagers got their buttermilk for breadmaking. The house almost surrounded by trees beside the Bridge is Manleys farm (now Roselawn). The field in front of the stack(now Woodpark) leads down to it apex at Davy&Phelans pub(now The Bell).To the left of Davys the ' Priests Field ' is clearly shown with ' the shed ' used as a changing room for St Brigids GFC, who were tenants there from the early 30's to the late 70's. St Brigids church spire dominates the picture with the original National School alongside (now the Community Centre). Parts of the Priests Field were used for the new National School in 1956 and its subsequent extension in the 70's. It would surprise me if this and other aerial photos were not taken at the same time, c. 1948, as a group of shots. The village was truly small then, with the Main St and Church dominating.The road down to the abbottstown Demense(now Connolly Hosp/Dept of Agriculture) gate is evident, it passes the ' Blanchardstown Mills ' building on its left prior to crossing the Tolka River. Further up the village in the photo are the ' crossroads ', from where three roads left for Corduff. Clonsilla and Mulhuddart, respectively. Noticeable from the photois the absence of houses/housing developments on these roads, as Blanch was surrounded by farmland in those days.!

finnegan2010 · 02-02-2011 9:05pm

Gaspode wrote: »

Not sure where I got these, been in the pc a while.

Shows Dublin west in the 19th Century, many of the place names recognisable today.

1837

1848, hasn't changed much in the few years since the previous map.

Cool map! Whats that big hill in Clonee?

Gaspode · 02-02-2011 9:39pm

Dont think the hills were as dramatic as the old maps make them out to be!

chucknorris · 21-02-2011 10:39am

Sorry for so many photos but a friend got permission to view this on the weekend.

An awful waste and something that could be used.

Thoughts anyone?

oblivious · 21-02-2011 10:42am

Gaspode wrote: »

Still there!

Check Google maps 53.385069,-6.458502

It is a small road and can be difficult if there is a tractor present

BostonB · 21-02-2011 11:45am

What are those places/buildings?

chucknorris · 21-02-2011 11:52am

BostonB wrote: »

What are those places/buildings?

I knew someone would ask

That's Abbotstown house believe it or not. Impressive isn't it

I used to rob the orchard here when I was a kid. What an estate it must have been.

BostonB · 21-02-2011 12:04pm

Its a bit plain, if big. Where is it. Is the grave yard there?

Bruthal · 21-02-2011 12:13pm

Gaspode wrote: »

An aerial view of Blanchardstown, but unfortunately I cant find a date for it. Anyone care to try identify some of the landmarks?

It looks like you can see the 2 bridges over the canal and railway in it anyway, castleknock road bridge to the left, and the blanchardstown main street/navan road bridge to the right side in the photo, where the canal locks are.

chucknorris · 21-02-2011 12:26pm

BostonB wrote: »

Its a bit plain, if big. Where is it. Is the grave yard there?

The graveyard is known i think as Caveen.

It's on the same grounds...used to play there as a kid also...some graves from the 1600's and 1700's.

Rumor has it will be demolished.

Gaspode · 21-02-2011 2:14pm

Wow, hard to believe Abbotstown house has gone so derelict looking. I've been in it many times when the Dept of Ag had it for labs & offices. A lot of the original features were messed up whn it was converted over to such use, but some of them were still in place. Was a fine house in it's day, and it's a crying shame to see it go to rack & ruin.
I assume the state still owns it since it took the land at Abbotstown for the Bertiebowl that never was.

chucknorris · 21-02-2011 2:30pm

Gaspode wrote: »

Wow, hard to believe Abbotstown house has gone so derelict looking. I've been in it many times when the Dept of Ag had it for labs & offices. A lot of the original features were messed up whn it was converted over to such use, but some of them were still in place. Was a fine house in it's day, and it's a crying shame to see it go to rack & ruin.
I assume the state still owns it since it took the land at Abbotstown for the Bertiebowl that never was.

I think it's an awful shame.

The lands are actually owned now by the sports campus crowd but that building could be used for something I'm sure.

The orchards were demolished years ago but we spent many summers around there. We used to get a good chase of the gotchy too .

sw15 · 21-02-2011 2:50pm

I never even knew this existed! What a shame ... in the right hands it could be another Farmleigh. Thanks for posting the photos...

Gaspode · 21-02-2011 3:48pm

Before the M50 was builit you could drive from the River Road up past that graveyard and come out near Cappagh (memory of exact locations are a bit fuzzy now!). I do remember though that there was a really nasty turn just as you passed the little graveyard, and we used to suspect that most of the bodies in there were poeple who didnt know how bad the turn was.

BostonB · 21-02-2011 4:12pm

I remember that. That turn, and graveyard is in the book about D.15 ( A Candle in the Window - A History of the Barony of Castleknock). I think there was some ruin there. In the book I think it was house for someone important, perhaps a bishop. I forget exactly.

chucknorris · 21-02-2011 4:16pm

There was a mass burial area uncovered in the 30's I think it was exactly where the M50 bridge is.

Effects · 13-03-2011 12:20am

Hopefully Abbottstown House won't end up demolished, I imagine there's a preservation order on it. It's in government hands so it won't be neglected as other buildings have been in Dublin. It might be unoccupied but it's still being heated and has had the roof insulated recently. A section of the stairway atrium had started to sag and while they had to cut out a lot of the plaster work to repair it the parts they cut out are stored correctly so they can be replaced.

I've been to Ashtown house a couple of times in the past few years, friends of a friend having been living there and they have some parties there. It's an incredible place and I'm glad it's not left empty.
Given what's happened to Hume street lately at least Abbotstown and Ashtown House have people looking after them.

deelite · 29-03-2011 8:01pm

Thank you so much for posting the pictures of the graveyard - I've been trying to locate that graveyard for a while now and without success. I remember going there years back for a drive and the way I went was from Finglas down the River Road and take the first right towards the food research place - is that the same graveyard or is it another one. That road has since been blocked.

Is there a way I could walk by the graveyard and if so could you please give me directions.

I drive up the river road on a daily basis - what's the history of the River Road - some of the houses have big black gates and others are quaint cottages. Just curiousity more than anything. I was driving very slowly the other day and in the fields there seemed to be older cottages and sheds etc.

chucknorris · 30-03-2011 10:10am

deelite wrote: »

Thank you so much for posting the pictures of the graveyard - I've been trying to locate that graveyard for a while now and without success. I remember going there years back for a drive and the way I went was from Finglas down the River Road and take the first right towards the food research place - is that the same graveyard or is it another one. That road has since been blocked.

Is there a way I could walk by the graveyard and if so could you please give me directions.

I drive up the river road on a daily basis - what's the history of the River Road - some of the houses have big black gates and others are quaint cottages. Just curiousity more than anything. I was driving very slowly the other day and in the fields there seemed to be older cottages and sheds etc.

you can gain access by getting clearance at the security hut at the entrance where you access the FAI. I dont think they can refuse you but you will need clearance in advance. all you need to say is your distant relative is buried there.

then take the road right and south......smashing place

PASSIFYOUCAN · 21-04-2011 1:23pm

Hi, I first visited Chaoimhin St Kevins back in the 70s when the roads were in use. A lot of the headstones have went missing since then.
I took a couple of photos last weekend from the disused road. Access now will be nigh on impossible as all the lands have been leased for cultivation with a lot of agri machinery on the move.

Cheers

ciarakitten · 09-06-2011 7:10pm

Hi there, thanks for all this brilliant info. Does anyone know any info about this old house in Blanchardstown village across from the bell? Who lived there?

Gaspode · 09-06-2011 8:10pm

ciarakitten, you've posted this twice so I'll remove one for you. You've also asked the same question elsewhere - once is generally enough!

py2006 · 21-06-2011 12:11pm

F.Russell wrote: »

This aerial photograph was taken from east of the Royal Canal during the Summer, as evidenced by the white rings in some of the fields where haycocks recently stood. In the foregrond of the picture is the chimney stack of the British Margarine factory, while to the left is Castleknock Bridge and, to its left is Bradys farm where many villagers got their buttermilk for breadmaking. The house almost surrounded by trees beside the Bridge is Manleys farm (now Roselawn). The field in front of the stack(now Woodpark) leads down to it apex at Davy&Phelans pub(now The Bell).To the left of Davys the ' Priests Field ' is clearly shown with ' the shed ' used as a changing room for St Brigids GFC, who were tenants there from the early 30's to the late 70's. St Brigids church spire dominates the picture with the original National School alongside (now the Community Centre). Parts of the Priests Field were used for the new National School in 1956 and its subsequent extension in the 70's. It would surprise me if this and other aerial photos were not taken at the same time, c. 1948, as a group of shots. The village was truly small then, with the Main St and Church dominating.The road down to the abbottstown Demense(now Connolly Hosp/Dept of Agriculture) gate is evident, it passes the ' Blanchardstown Mills ' building on its left prior to crossing the Tolka River. Further up the village in the photo are the ' crossroads ', from where three roads left for Corduff. Clonsilla and Mulhuddart, respectively. Noticeable from the photois the absence of houses/housing developments on these roads, as Blanch was surrounded by farmland in those days.!

Thank you for this fascinating insight! Do you have any knowledge of what is slightly left of the picture! The whole areas of Delwood and Brompton etc. Would love to know anything about the history of these areas! I assume they were merely fields but what were they called after etc

deelite · 25-06-2011 9:15pm

I drove down the River Road today and took the last possible right, the turn towards Elm Green Golf Centre (parked at the bollards). I walked down the river on the left hand side which is a lovely walk, there's one or two old bridges there. But then I couldn't go any further as it was blocked by trees - what's up further does anybody know, and also is this a known dangerous area to be in? I was up there as I was told I could get to the graveyard that way.

minttea · 29-06-2011 8:55pm

Here is some video footage of Castleknock College recorded in the 20's/30's

15/10/1923
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=20192

15/03/1926
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=25715

14/06/1928
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=16767

16/06/1930
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=3744

04/06/1931
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=5580

No1J · 30-06-2011 8:27am

deelite wrote: »

I drove down the River Road today and took the last possible right, the turn towards Elm Green Golf Centre (parked at the bollards). I walked down the river on the left hand side which is a lovely walk, there's one or two old bridges there. But then I couldn't go any further as it was blocked by trees - what's up further does anybody know, and also is this a known dangerous area to be in? I was up there as I was told I could get to the graveyard that way.

Haven't gone up there in years but yes your in the right area, with all the construction work over the last 15 years god knows what it is like. I used to deliver into Abbottstown labs up the small lane but never noticed the graveyard, the lane was bad then 20 years ago. If you could keep going you would come out at the dip in the road at the entrance to J.C. Hospital from the village. walked past the bridge the other day and a skanger came out of that same place. Would have to say be very careful scouting down there, I would try going in the Snugborough road way.

sambora · 30-06-2011 10:02am

All of these photos are so cool. Especially the 2 old maps from the 1830's!

Thanks for posting them

Gaspode · 06-07-2011 8:09am

The OSI have a great feature in which you can look at a modern map of any part of Ireland, and overlay old maps to see what the area would have been like years ago. I've spent waaaaay too much time doing this over the past week!

Link.

Have fun

PS for those asking about the cemetry at Passifyoucan, you can see it clearly just east of Abbotstown house on the older maps.

oblivious · 06-07-2011 10:23am

Gaspode wrote: »

The OSI have a great feature in which you can look at a modern map of any part of Ireland, and overlay old maps to see what the area would have been like years ago. I've spent waaaaay too much time doing this over the past week!

Link.

Have fun

Thats a great link

chucknorris · 06-07-2011 10:33am

Gaspode wrote: »

The OSI have a great feature in which you can look at a modern map of any part of Ireland, and overlay old maps to see what the area would have been like years ago. I've spent waaaaay too much time doing this over the past week!

Link.

Have fun

PS for those asking about the cemetry at Passifyoucan, you can see it clearly just east of Abbotstown house on the older maps.

Excellent!

r3nu41 · 28-07-2011 10:10pm

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Zaph · 28-07-2011 10:20pm

r3nu41, I've removed your picture as the Reichstag is not, nor ever has been in Dublin 15.

GBranigan · 30-07-2011 12:13am

Does anybody know of an ancient Holy Well that is supposed to be just outside the eastern boundary Wall of the Caveen Graveyard, and known as the Caveen Well or St Coemhin's Well?

It was supposed to be covered before the 1930s by Lord Holmpatrick, however, maps of the area show a large pond & stream right beside it.

Can anybody help?

sw15 · 14-08-2011 8:35pm

Hi, just to let you know that Jim Lacey (author Candle in the Window) has put together a free exhibition of old photos and prints of the area in Blanchardstown library, as part of Heritage Week. There will be about 60 images so there might be something of interest! Exhibition iwill be just inside the front door of the library and will be there Sat 20 Aug - Fri 26 Aug.

PASSIFYOUCAN · 25-10-2011 11:00am

At its best last century.

BostonB · 25-10-2011 11:28am

Links not working for me.

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