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Carlow GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well done on a hard fought win earlier tonight guys. At least ye get a third outing and the third game might bring ye on a bit. Hopefully the draw will be kind to ye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Well done on a hard fought win earlier tonight guys. At least ye get a third outing and the third game might bring ye on a bit. Hopefully the draw will be kind to ye.

    I would like a trip down to Carlow for Roscommon.
    Have we ever played in Championship?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Huge credit to everyone involved with the panel for yesterday's win. Coming off a hiding against Meath and with no Paul Broderick, the lads really stepped up and got a deserved win.

    Some really good performances yesterday, but not fair to name certain lads as it was a very good team performance. Delighted for Rainbow as he has had it very tough over the past couple of years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Gael85


    TaosHum wrote: »
    Huge credit to everyone involved with the panel for yesterday's win. Coming off a hiding against Meath and with no Paul Broderick, the lads really stepped up and got a deserved win.

    Some really good performances yesterday, but not fair to name certain lads as it was a very good team performance. Delighted for Rainbow as he has had it very tough over the past couple of years.


    great win for Carlow yesterday. Was Paul Broderick injured?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Gael85 wrote: »
    great win for Carlow yesterday. Was Paul Broderick injured?

    Yeah he is injured. Hopefully he is back for the next day


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Couldn't have asked for a better draw in Clare. With the game in Carlow and tails up after the Waterford game, confidence will be high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Superb win for the lads on Saturday. Delighted for every one of the players on that panel, they deserved that victory. We all know it's a long way from being the best 25 players in the county but they are the ones who stuck at it, unlike those who didn't bother playing/dropped off during the league.

    Huge determination & effort throughout and doing whatever it took not to be beaten in the last couple of minutes showed how much it meant to them.

    In all honesty we should have won that game a lot easier than we did. The 1st half was very low standard stuff by both sides, and while we owned the ball it seemed like forwards were terrified to have a go at the posts after a few early wides/kicks dropping short.

    Was fearing the worst after we gave away such a soft goal, and then Waterford kicked over the 1st point of 2nd half.

    Whatever it was, after that the lads were inspired for a spell where we completely dominated and kicked a few great scores, some from very unlikely scorers too!

    Nervy finish, but Ledgers amazing point was vital and how good was it to see him back to form on long range frees.

    Huge win for Carlow football, and the noise and the standing ovation the few of us who were there gave them showed how much it meant.

    The best possible outcome of this mornings draw was a home game vs Clare and that's what we got, so who knows this might be the most unlikely of extended summers for Carlow football!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,117 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    we in clare would be fairly happy with the draw ourselves not because its carlow but its not tyrone , the way the draw works out this year the winners of this tie would probably fancy there chances against any of the 2A teams in round 3

    a win in championship is massive no matter who it is against , and after hearing about the standing ovation at the end yer guys are going to be flying for the next 10 days in training, that win against waterford saterday was a massive tonic for a county that has had an awful year in the league , and less said about the meath game the better, i think every one is delighted for antony rainbow for sticking through the tough times, many more would have walked

    we also have had the same problem for years with players refusing to play for the county , very frustrating when you know how good your team could be if they bothered, after appointing a new manager late last year we finally got someone in that was able to get his strongest panel together from within the county , and after a good league and running kerry close last week we look like we have turned a corner

    we would feel that a good year would end on a low note if we dont win saterday week , we will be without the two collins brothers if the clare hurlers win next week against wexford which will be another boost for ye ,

    it wont be easy going to dr cullen park for us next week , if ye do win it should give ye the confidence to kick on next year in the league, i was surprised how far ye had falling back this year because of the many close encounters we have had in the recent past and i expect this will be the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Sad day for Carlow football yesterday. For me this was so much worse than the Meath game.

    This was us being destroyed by what was this year a fellow Div 4 side at home. Shocking team selection again, crazy subs being made. To take off Lawlor & Kinsella early and leave on certain players who I won't name but have been terrible in every game.

    We made Clare look like Dublin, they cut through us at will. They won every kick out they had mainly because 99% of theirs were short to an unmarked back. Lost count of how many points they got from short kick outs and a few seconds later the ball is over the bar, without a Carlow player getting near them.

    Our kick outs were the opposite, lots of weirdly looping kicks that usually dropped into a Clare half forwards hands, and they scored or worked a score.

    That has to be the end of Rainbow, who as always just stood there arms folded and offered no encouragement or anything.

    It's as low as Carlow football has ever been and it's sad to see.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Sad day for Carlow football yesterday. For me this was so much worse than the Meath game.

    This was us being destroyed by what was this year a fellow Div 4 side at home. Shocking team selection again, crazy subs being made. To take off Lawlor & Kinsella early and leave on certain players who I won't name but have been terrible in every game.

    We made Clare look like Dublin, they cut through us at will. They won every kick out they had mainly because 99% of theirs were short to an unmarked back. Lost count of how many points they got from short kick outs and a few seconds later the ball is over the bar, without a Carlow player getting near them.

    Our kick outs were the opposite, lots of weirdly looping kicks that usually dropped into a Clare half forwards hands, and they scored or worked a score.

    That has to be the end of Rainbow, who as always just stood there arms folded and offered no encouragement or anything.

    It's as low as Carlow football has ever been and it's sad to see.

    1 thing is that I would say that Clare looked far far fitter than you would normally expect from a Division 4 team from their game against Kerry - even right at the end Clare were still going and got the last 2 points of the game. Coming off the back of a good "loss" to Kerry would have surely lead to massive positive morale in the Clare camp as well.

    Cant comment on much else but don't be surprised if Kildare get a bit of a shock the next day out.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Sad day for Carlow football yesterday. For me this was so much worse than the Meath game.

    This was us being destroyed by what was this year a fellow Div 4 side at home. Shocking team selection again, crazy subs being made. To take off Lawlor & Kinsella early and leave on certain players who I won't name but have been terrible in every game.

    We made Clare look like Dublin, they cut through us at will. They won every kick out they had mainly because 99% of theirs were short to an unmarked back. Lost count of how many points they got from short kick outs and a few seconds later the ball is over the bar, without a Carlow player getting near them.

    Our kick outs were the opposite, lots of weirdly looping kicks that usually dropped into a Clare half forwards hands, and they scored or worked a score.

    That has to be the end of Rainbow, who as always just stood there arms folded and offered no encouragement or anything.

    It's as low as Carlow football has ever been and it's sad to see.

    Still and all though i have to say that 2-13 was good scoring so there is something there to build on at least. I would have thought that Rainbow being young, hungry and with a point to prove would have been ideal for Carlow but perhaps they might respond to a local better? The likes of a Jonny Nevin or a Mark Carpenter perhaps?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Sad day for Carlow football yesterday. For me this was so much worse than the Meath game.

    This was us being destroyed by what was this year a fellow Div 4 side at home. Shocking team selection again, crazy subs being made. To take off Lawlor & Kinsella early and leave on certain players who I won't name but have been terrible in every game.

    We made Clare look like Dublin, they cut through us at will. They won every kick out they had mainly because 99% of theirs were short to an unmarked back. Lost count of how many points they got from short kick outs and a few seconds later the ball is over the bar, without a Carlow player getting near them.

    Our kick outs were the opposite, lots of weirdly looping kicks that usually dropped into a Clare half forwards hands, and they scored or worked a score.

    That has to be the end of Rainbow, who as always just stood there arms folded and offered no encouragement or anything.

    It's as low as Carlow football has ever been and it's sad to see.

    For as bad as Carlow were, Clare were very good. They were very quick with their kick outs or when the ball went dead, which caught Carlow off guard and they had no answer for it. Also, Clare where able to get space from the kickouts because Carlow were trying (in vain) to compete in midfield. They were also fitter and sharper than Carlow.

    That Clare side was only beaten by four by Kerry, so they are a dangerous side. From what I saw, they are also a better side than Meath, although Meath never needed to get out of 2nd gear in DCP.

    I think we all got carried away with the win against Waterford, that's what makes the defeat hard to take.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TaosHum wrote: »
    For as bad as Carlow were, Clare were very good. They were very quick with their kick outs or when the ball went dead, which caught Carlow off guard and they had no answer for it. Also, Clare where able to get space from the kickouts because Carlow were trying (in vain) to compete in midfield. They were also fitter and sharper than Carlow.

    That Clare side was only beaten by four by Kerry, so they are a dangerous side. From what I saw, they are also a better side than Meath, although Meath never needed to get out of 2nd gear in DCP.

    I think we all got carried away with the win against Waterford, that's what makes the defeat hard to take.


    The two hardest games that Tipperary have played this year (other than the Cork game) have arguably been against Clare in the league. I seen them play us at Semple and they look a real dogged side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    TaosHum wrote: »
    For as bad as Carlow were, Clare were very good. They were very quick with their kick outs or when the ball went dead, which caught Carlow off guard and they had no answer for it. Also, Clare where able to get space from the kickouts because Carlow were trying (in vain) to compete in midfield. They were also fitter and sharper than Carlow.

    That Clare side was only beaten by four by Kerry, so they are a dangerous side. From what I saw, they are also a better side than Meath, although Meath never needed to get out of 2nd gear in DCP.

    I think we all got carried away with the win against Waterford, that's what makes the defeat hard to take.

    Clare were excellent, I should have said that in my last post. They were a class above us in every area and scored more than Meath did against us. They scored 26 points and could have matched Meaths 7 goals easily, the peno save and a couple of 3 on 2's where they just took the point instead. The big worry for them is they look weak at the back, for our limited forwards to get 2-13 has to be a worry for them.

    Kildare will have a seriously tough job getting out of ennis with a win, i'll be sticking a few quid on Clare that day.

    As for Carlow, well despite the Waterford win that has to go down as our worst year ever. Bottom of Div 4, losing by 28 points to Meath and 19 points to Clare both at home. Most of our better players decided not to get involved or walked off during the year. I can't remember things being as bad as this ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭king size mars bar


    Keep this up and we will be joining Kilkenny and be playing our football in England !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Anthony rainbow has stepped down


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Anthony rainbow has stepped down

    He had to go in all fairness,Now a new manager is needed to bring the best players in Carlow together again.

    I think they will have to bite the bullet and bring in a top class proven manager who players will jump to play with.

    When Micko landed in Wicklow over 100 players showed up for trials the first night.

    Something similar needs to happen in Carlow IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Great to see Rainbow gone. Should have happened after last year. Next man in will be a Carlow man.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Great to see Rainbow gone. Should have happened after last year. Next man in will be a Carlow man.

    Who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    racso1975 wrote: »
    Who?

    Turlough O'Brien from what I hear. He was drafted in late this year to try help clueless Rainbow out, bit too late tho. Will have a clean run at it next year on his own. Did a good job with Eire Og and is respected within the county.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Turlough O'Brien from what I hear. He was drafted in late this year to try help clueless Rainbow out, bit too late tho. Will have a clean run at it next year on his own. Did a good job with Eire Og and is respected within the county.

    He's the only Carlowman out there with a proven track record and available.

    Hopefully it happens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭jimbo79


    TaosHum wrote: »
    He's the only Carlowman out there with a proven track record and available.

    Hopefully it happens.

    Track record ? What would that be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    jimbo79 wrote: »
    Track record ? What would that be?

    Has won Carlow Senior Championship with Eire Og along with numerous underage titles. Granted, not proven at inter-county level, but he has a good relationship with players (not just from Eire Og) and knows the inter-county set up after coming in to help Rainbow late last year. If you looking for a Carlow man who can get players back from the wilderness, then there's no-one better.

    Looking like he won't be going for it anyway, so it's all academic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,101 ✭✭✭klairondavis


    Is Karl O'Dwyer still managing Old Leighlin? Would he be in the running?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Is Karl O'Dwyer still managing Old Leighlin? Would he be in the running?

    He is and doing a very good job. Can't say whether he would be interested or not, but if he then he would be in the shake up.

    Mick Lillis would be in the same boat as O'Dwyer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭jimbo79


    He also had a year with county minors and did not get on to well. He did ok with Eire og but wasn't able to make an impact with them outside county. I'm not sure who I'd like to see in the job. I think first priority should be to see if we can get players to commit


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How's the club championships in both codes and all grades going in Carlow? What stage are ye at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭king size mars bar


    St Mullins v Erin's own, and MLR v Miseal in the snr hurling semi finals on October 5th. Don't know where the football is at.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Erin's Own have hit form at the right time. Having beaten Miseal and drawn with St Mullins only last week, they will fancy their chances.

    Haven't been impressed with MLR. Badly missing Dennis Murphy, not just for his free taking but is general play in the full forward line. The quality is still there though and I don't see them getting caught on the hop by Miseal again.

    MLR vs Erin's Own final for me.

    In the football, final week of group fixtures coming up, with the big game being Tinryland vs Palatine. Winner goes into Semi Final, but should be a cracking game based on what both sides have shown so far. Rathvilly should beat Kilbride tonight to at lease make the quarter finals.

    In the other group, Old Leighlin will cement there place in the Semi Final with a win over MLR, who look bound for the relegation playoff. Eire Og have been awful so far and I doubt they can get it together after last weeks hammering by OL against a surprising Kildavin/Clonegal. Worst Eire Og side I have seen in years. Think we're looking at for the quarters:

    Kildavin/Clonegal vs Rathvilly
    Palatine vs Eire Og

    Tinryland & Old Leighlin into semis.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Happy with the appointments of both Turlough O'Brien and Pat English. If John Allen and John O'Mahony take the advisory roles serious, then they will be a great help to both managers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Despite you doubting me, I did tell you in my post on aug 11th that Turlough would be next Carlow Manager. If only bookies were taking bets on this!!
    Great choice I think, knows every player in the county at all levels. Only hope now that all players will commit to the county side for 2015.

    Hurling same thing, got a guy in who knows Carlow Hurling better than most. Again, depends on whether we get a full turn out for committing to the County side. We are in 2A, with a full panel we should get back to at worst a play off v 1B.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    I think we get the players to commit for the hurlers. I don't see anyone emulating MLR's fantastic run last season, so Pat should have a full panel to work from when they go back.

    I think you will certainly see more footballers making the commitment with Turlough about, but there will still be the few that won't. I'd be happy if he can get more lads from Tinryland and Rathvilly to commit as well as some of the more notable absentees from the season gone. O'Brien seems to be targeting the league and he's right to do so.

    Looking forward to hurling semis this weekend. I don't see MLR getting caught on the hop like they did earlier in the year against Naomh Eoin. Can see Bagenalstown continuing their recent good form and get a surprise win over St. Mullins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    The hurling semis this weekend will be 2 close games I think. MLR should sneak through, and I expect St Mullins to win too.

    Draws for U-21 & minor Leinsters were done this week. For 1st time in 3 years our U-21 footballers don't have to face Dublin. An away game v Louth will be Willie Quinlans 1st Championship game in charge.
    Minors have Kilkenny 1st day out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭king size mars bar


    Hope Erin's Own do the bis on Sunday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    I'm neutral, being from an area with no senior club. Can't wait for the semis on Sunday. Reckon both games will be close and would not surprise me at all if Erins Own win. See the first co game of the New Year will be v Kilkenny in Walsh Cup. Welcome to co management Pat!! :) NUIG are other team in our handy group :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭king size mars bar


    Well I don't know what to say, very bad result for Erin's Own today


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well I don't know what to say, very bad result for Erin's Own today


    Id imagine they'll be kicking themselves now that MLR have been knocked out. Great sign perhaps for Carlow hurling that other clubs have decided that they want to make the breakthrough? Or have MLR gone back a little?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    Erins Own failed to score in the 2nd half .............MLR seem to be suffering from a long hangover .

    Another great battle in store between St Mullins / Myshall


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What about the football in Carlow? How is it progressing? Normally around this time of year Brian O'Donoghue used keep me well informed of things on the free paper but i havent got it that luxury this time around :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭pmy.murphy


    Id imagine they'll be kicking themselves now that MLR have been knocked out. Great sign perhaps for Carlow hurling that other clubs have decided that they want to make the breakthrough? Or have MLR gone back a little?

    I was shocked meself too to see the Rangers knocked out, thought they would walk their way to it again this year but I hear they were missing their best man in Denis Murphy so that would have weakened their forwards a bit.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    pmy.murphy wrote: »
    I was shocked meself too to see the Rangers knocked out, thought they would walk their way to it again this year but I hear they were missing their best man in Denis Murphy so that would have weakened their forwards a bit.


    Very true. To me i think though it seems another boost to Carlow hurling if other teams step up to the plate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭pmy.murphy


    Very true. To me i think though it seems another boost to Carlow hurling if other teams step up to the plate.

    Yeh would be great to see them do well in Leinster and the room is certainly there with Oulart beaten in Wexford. I would hope Naomh Eoin win it out now especially after claiming the scalp of Rangers.

    All I hope now is that they are kept apart from the winners of our Senior Championship in Kilkenny in Leinster which in my opinion will be either Ballyhale, Clara or O Loughlin Gaels


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    pmy.murphy wrote: »
    Yeh would be great to see them do well in Leinster and the room is certainly there with Oulart beaten in Wexford. I would hope Naomh Eoin win it out now especially after claiming the scalp of Rangers.

    All I hope now is that they are kept apart from the winners of our Senior Championship in Kilkenny in Leinster which in my opinion will be either Ballyhale, Clara or O Loughlin Gaels


    Kilcormac or St Rynaghs wont be easy either id say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭pmy.murphy


    Kilcormac or St Rynaghs wont be easy either id say.

    I agree they certainly wont be easily especially Kilcormac who have history in the competition


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Was sad to see Bagenalstown collapse like they did. Started off so well, were 5 points in front after 20 but that was as good as it got for them.

    The goal just after the half I think was what broke them. Heads went after that and lads started getting needlessly sent off. They are better than what they showed today.

    I'm not too surprised Myshall beat MLR. Was similar to the game earlier in the year. Myshall were stronger physically and had more bite in the forwards. But had Denis Murphy been on the field MLR probably scrape by. Free taking has been an issue all year for Ranger with Murphy out.

    Myshall the favourites for me but St. Mullins will be hoping to redeem themselves having got humiliated last year by MLR. Should be good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭king size mars bar


    Erin's own let themselves down today, but didn't deserve to be in a final when you don't score for 45mins.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Fiar play to Rathvilly on the county Championship win on Sunday. I honestly didn't see a championship in that team at the start of the year, but the 5 week break seemed to have allowed them to get their act together. The Rathvilly full forward line was the difference in the end as they exploited Old Leighlins weakness in the full back line to great affect. Hopefully they can continue their good form into Leinster and pick up a win against Rathnew.

    Great to see Tinryland finally win a minor. They could dominate that code for years to come now that they have that monkey off their back.

    Hurling final this weekend. I'd have Naomh Eoin as slight favorites, but I'm expecting a very close run contest. St. Mullins will be hoping to atone for their poor performance in last years Championship final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Fort Stranger


    Hello Carlow men and women, I am from across the border but if you like hurling you might enjoy this. I just uploaded a video on to YouTube with a little song I wrote and recorded with the help of a friend here across the water, it's called "up for the match - Kilkenny hurling song" it's a bit of a giggle, we are not musicians, but hope it gets a few laughs! I wrote it after the drawn game, I could probably put another verse about the replay on now but anyway enjoy and pass it on if you like it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    2 very enjoyable games in DCP on Sunday. Pal put up a decent fight against Tinryland but they were by far the better side. Finally they won one. I reckon if EO had beaten Pal in SF, that Tinryland might have lost to EO somehow.

    Senior final was great, best one in years. Delighted to see Rathvilly win. JJ Smith was class and please god he is back with co team for next year. Bren Murph was obviously not fit, and taking him off made sense.

    Hope he is ok for 2 weeks time in Aughrim. Apart from Eire Og we haven't had a Carlow club win a game in leinster club in ages.


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