Blatant Cheating

This sounds really sad. I would be letting him know I think he is a cheat

Seve OB wrote: »

I agree with blue note.
Handicap makes golf great that you can compete against everybody.
A high handicapper with ability will always have the chance to shoot a great score but when they do, they get cut. If they keep playing and shooting good scores then they will keep getting cut.
If theY mind their handicap like mentioned above, I’m not sure there is a lot you can do about it except report them to handicap sec for a cut on observation.

There is one thing about minding their handicap , but thE post above about reporting wrong scores is most definitely cheating.

The thing about it is I have often been called a bandit, a term I think can be abused, sure I may have the ability to shoot good shots and scores, but if I really was a bandit, I’d have a few captains prizes and other majors in the bag by now.

I remember when I was A kid and a high handicapper In the 20’s, someone told me to make sure I collect on the way in........ Maybe I collected the wrong prizes haha

The bandit term is the most ridiculous thing in golf...I am going through my worst spell of golf in a long time. Got my ACL operated on last year and missed a whole year of golf and it has set me back no end. I am trying to play off 13 at the minute and was struggling until I had 42 points at the weekend, it was out of no where to be honest, I was delighted obviously but I flucked at least 5/6 points on the round. Coming of the 18th after finalising the cards and one of my playing partners accuses me of been a bandit when I reveal my score and he sick of this place as its full of them. My previous 7 rounds I had scores of 30,27,27,29,26,28 and 24. This score was completely out of sync of where my form is at but sure what can you do...if I am a bandit then everybody that has played the game is one as this has happened to every single golfer. A freak score out of nowhere!! All I want to do is get my game back to where I am threatening single figures again, I could give a hoots about claiming prizes in some random run of the mill Sunday competition!!

Ottoman_1000 wrote: »

The bandit term is the most ridiculous thing in golf...I am going through my worst spell of golf in a long time. Got my ACL operated on last year and missed a whole year of golf and it has set me back no end. I am trying to play off 13 at the minute and was struggling until I had 42 points at the weekend, it was out of no where to be honest, I was delighted obviously but I flucked at least 5/6 points on the round. Coming of the 18th after finalising the cards and one of my playing partners accuses me of been a bandit when I reveal my score and he sick of this place as its full of them. My previous 7 rounds I had scores of 30,27,27,29,26,28 and 24. This score was completely out of sync of where my form is at but sure what can you do...if I am a bandit then everybody that has played the game is one as this has happened to every single golfer. A freak score out of nowhere!! All I want to do is get my game back to where I am threatening single figures again, I could give a hoots about claiming prizes in some random run of the mill Sunday competition!!

That seems harsh of your playing partner I'd say. 42 points off of 13 isn't outrageous. So you shot a 7 over gross score. That's good golf imo. Would he say the same of a 6 handicapper shooting level par gross I wonder??

spacecoyote wrote: »

Ah, but you are a bandit Seve

I was going to say all bandits don’t wear masks, but sure at the moment............

Shot 30 points today. Lost 3 balls early on, I think I’m trying to hard to not hit bad and wild shots and it’s not suiting my game. Few months ago there were no comps and I was flushing it and shooting savage scores. Since then I think I’ve had 3 games in the buffer, about 7 games about the 30pointS or Slightly under and had a couple of good four ball games on the 36ish point mark. Team comp last week was my best score in months, shot 38 on my own, but a bloody team comp so no cut, we came 3rd with 89 so I suppose that kind of carry on deserves to have me called a bandit lol.


Captains on Saturday, was feeling that I could possibly shoot a score up till about 3 hours ago when I walked off the course having played my worst game in ages. Now I think I will be happy with the buffer.....but if I do win a prize I guess I’ll have to make sure the Bandit mask is on when I’m collecting haha

Seve OB wrote: »

I was going to say all bandits don’t wear masks, but sure at the moment............

Shot 30 points today. Lost 3 balls early on, I think I’m trying to hard to not hit bad and wild shots and it’s not suiting my game. Few months ago there were no comps and I was flushing it and shooting savage scores. Since then I think I’ve had 3 games in the buffer, about 7 games about the 30pointS or Slightly under and had a couple of good four ball games on the 36ish point mark. Team comp last week was my best score in months, shot 38 on my own, but a bloody team comp so no cut, we came 3rd with 89 so I suppose that kind of carry on deserves to have me called a bandit lol.


Captains on Saturday, was feeling that I could possibly shoot a score up till about 3 hours ago when I walked off the course having played my worst game in ages. Now I think I will be happy with the buffer.....but if I do win a prize I guess I’ll have to make sure the Bandit mask is on when I’m collecting haha

Ah I'm in the same boat as you myself Seve. Think I've maybe 3 buffers and 6 0.1s since qualifying came back and just cant put a round together

You wouldn’t come near a cut in our place with 39. I know a lad that has not shot worse than 35 since the lockdown. He’s only gone from 12 to 11. Absolutely battering lads in the club match play as well.

padmcv wrote: »

I've heard of this being done by the group in front as a warning to stop hitting into them

I did that with a ball once from a pair that were hitting Dow on us all day but we were all being held up. Except I teed it up on the next tee box for him, made us feel a lot better!!!

Seve OB wrote: »

Posted correctly excluded matchplay in his statement.
Rule 5.2 explicitly says playing or practice is not allowed on course before any competition.
So he would not be wrong to call anyone out on it.

Perhaps your club has a local rule which would allow it?

I stand corrected seve, I always understood stroke play to be total shots, I thought Stableford was separate, not a form of stroke play.
Ya learn something every day,

well done yesterday, am sure you’re chuffed

AcidLollyPop wrote:

- Youre having fun/doing things you want in your life now. Make sure youre saving (not hoarding). I just get this impression (am open to that am wrong) from your need to afirm/get validation that its hoarding, not saving.

BraveDonut wrote:

Told a guy he couldn't play the ball outside of his 3 minutes and he was not happy

Your some stickler.

TCM wrote: »

Your some stickler.

Yes, its an interesting topic. Someone is considered a stickler, or the bad guy, for pointing out the rules to someone else. Not uncommon.

Seve OB wrote: »

Posted correctly excluded matchplay in his statement.
Rule 5.2 explicitly says playing or practice is not allowed on course before any competition.
So he would not be wrong to call anyone out on it.

Perhaps your club has a local rule which would allow it?

And to be totally correct you can practice putting/chipping on or around the first tee before you tee off.

etxp wrote: »

And to be totally correct you can practice putting/chipping on or around the first tee before you tee off.

You can do it on any tee you are about to play from and on/around the previous green, including chipping & putting unless there is a local rule preventing it.

5.5b

GreeBo wrote: »

You can do it on any tee you are about to play from and on/around the previous green, including chipping & putting unless there is a local rule preventing it.

5.5b

You are right, I was just referring to before the start of the round.

BoardsMember wrote: »

This is interesting! I understand what you are saying, but I totally disagree.

You could make this argument for any rule that people break. Because that's what we're talking about here, it's breaking the rules.

Effectively what you're saying is that it is ok to break the rules if you believe that others will be doing so. Effectively we should all be playing by the same rules, but sometimes not necessarily the rules of golf.

It very much opens the door to other rules being broken because others do it, like when taking a wrong drop for example: choosing not to take the nearest point of relief because it happens to be in a bush, and because others always do it that way, so taking the nearest point of relief that is a nice spot where you have a nice swing (this happens a fair bit!).

The rules are black and white. Dangerous ground to be condoning not playing by the rules. That the argument is so that others don't get an unfair advantage by you playing by the rules is not a great line.

I don’t think Blue Note is saying it’s right, i think they’re just giving a fair summation of what happens in reality.

The clock is important when it’s a big interclub match or maybe the business end of a 36 hole captains, but for your run of the mill Saturday stableford or Tuesday open singles, what has and will always happen is that everyone will plod around in the thick stuff for a few mins looking for it; it could be 2 mins or it could be 4, people will never really get a stopwatch out. Also, I think in club circles I’d say the person who’s ball is lost says the usual “you lads go hit, I’ll keep having a look here” and a minute or two later as the partners are hitting he says I found it, you’d likely get marked out as a special kind of prick if you say “ah Johnny that’s at least 4 or 5 mins since you started, you’ll have to reload”. That’s wrong, but it’s what would happen most likely.