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The Pat Kenny Show

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  • #152
    Skid X
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    RTE Six One News still bleating on about Pat Kenny's 2008 salary.

    Not very classy.


  • #153
    grey_so_what
    Registered Users Posts: 19,749 ✭✭✭✭grey_so_what


    Skid X wrote: »
    RTE Six One News still bleating on about Pat Kenny's 2008 salary.

    Not very classy.

    They are trying to sweep him under the carpet not very convincingly I think!


  • #154
    Calhoun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    kneemos wrote: »
    Where's Tom Dunne going then,Moncrief says nobody is losing their jobs.

    Honestly hard to see where his slot would fit, maybe a late night show after sport or a weekend slot. Alternatively they could move him to today FM/


  • #155
    F35
    Site Banned Posts: 87 ✭✭F35


    Calhoun wrote: »
    Honestly hard to see where his slot would fit, maybe a late night show after sport or a weekend slot. Alternatively they could move him to today FM/

    Toy show maybe?

    :D


  • #156
    GSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭GSF


    constitutionus wrote: »
    Say what ya want but its the coup of the day

    Those Eyptian generals are going to have to up their game!

    Anyways, I'm surprisedKenny didn't insist on a 9am start. He used to always be upset that Gaybo had the 9am slot at RTE


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  • #157
    wnolan1992
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    This is a good move for NT. As much as I like Tom Dunne, the writing has been on the wall for a while now and, frankly, his figures just didn't justify him keeping that slot anymore.

    September will be rather interesting, could we see a return of Ivan Yates as well to bolster Breakfast's lineup and try and halt the tailspin?

    Even more interesting will be the schedule...

    07:00 - 10:00 - Breakfast
    10:00 - 12:30 - Pat Kenny
    12:30 - 14:00 - Lunchtime
    14:00 - 16:30 - Moncrief
    16:30 - 19:00 - Hook*
    19:00 - 22:00 - OTB
    22:00 - 00:00 - Misc**

    *I wonder how long Hook will keep his slot. You'd imagine that Cooper would be a ready-made replacement for when he decides to retire, opening up the way to make Today FM a more music focused station and NT the more heavy hitting CA station.

    **If it were me, I'd consider making Coleman at Large a 4 or 5-day a week show, and move the more fluffy shows (The Green Room, Davenport, Splanc) to the new weekend schedule with Norah Casey.


    As for Tom Dunne, anyone reckon he might be parachuted (eh? :P) into the 98FM schedule to replace the pre-recorded Seacrest show with some version of Pet Sounds? Or, if Cooper were to move, could we see Dunne returning to his old Today FM slot and Colm O'Sullivan taking drive?

    Whatever happens, I'd be really sad to see Dunne leaving the airwaves. He's a really talented, likable presenter, I think he was majorly let down by the talk show format which he just didn't suit at all in my opinion.


  • #158
    alfagirl
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭alfagirl


    JM Skipton wrote: »
    I think Aine Lawlor has been a very good stand in for Marian, an outside bet?

    Absolutely agree, lovely relaxed broadcasting for the weekend.


  • #159
    blue4ever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    In terms of TD I'd have said Phantom a few years back - but TD may have moved on from that style.

    Interesting one in terms of PK his last quoted salary was radio and TV. So lets just say he is getting half a bar for the newstalk slot (madness I know - only making a point).

    For that and to wash kenny's face N/T have to bring in an extra €2000 a show/day or, put is another way,an extra €385 per half hour during his show.

    C


  • #160
    Hitchens
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,040 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    alfagirl wrote: »
    Absolutely agree, lovely relaxed broad for the weekend.

    FYP ;)


  • #161
    Vahevala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Vahevala


    Poor Tom :( I have avoided NT since the off the ball lads left.


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  • #162
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    Tom was looking happy as he strolled through the square in Temple Bar last Thursday evening.


  • #163
    el pasco
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭el pasco


    Newstalk has poor reception around the country and nowhere near as good as reception as RTE Radio so there listeners than they can hear there programmes could be down on what RTE Radio get
    Also Newstalk is more of an urban Dublin centric station than a national broadcaster so I wonder will it be as successful
    If Pat Kenny does not pull in the listeners then I wonder will he be sacked after a year or two


  • #164
    Murt10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭Murt10


    I'd be looking to give Keelin Shanley Kenny's slot.

    She is exellent in her new morning show on RTE TV, the problem is that very few people have the opportunity to watch her.

    She has a long pedigree in RTE. She's very bright and not afraid to tackle hard issues.

    Putting her on RTE radio 1 in the morning would certainly work.


  • #165
    Havermeyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    I can't say I'm sorry to see Dunne go, either. I've never been a fan of his, but the show on Newstalk completely lost its way.

    Two hours of him talking about his wife and kids, and giving away 'nudey pens'. Woeful stuff.

    Having said that, I've mixed feelings about Kenny to NT. If his show is similar to the RTE show, it'll basically be PK Today - but with more ads. :S


  • #166
    SmallCroc
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭SmallCroc


    There will be more than a few interested parties looking on when P Kenny takes to newstalk for the first time - we're going to get an answer to the age old question - do people tune in to hear Pat Kenny, or are they tuning in to RTÈ?

    Massive implications for the bottom lines of Marion, Joe et al.


  • #167
    McDave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭McDave


    PK to NewsTalk is the first step to making them a serious player. If they can nail down solid Breakfast Show and Lunchtime presenters, a lot of listeners will have their dials permanently on 106. For the first time ever, NewsTalk will be able to challenge RTE.

    It's a real game changer.


  • #168
    ugly_mug
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15 ✭ugly_mug


    is jonathan healy leaving

    please say yes


  • #169
    Hitchens
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    Pat Kenny got a pay package from rival station Newstalk that the State broadcaster could not meet, allegedly

    Big fish...................small pond :)


  • #170
    bbability
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Pensions was the big "buzz" word some years back when Newstalk made a move for the big names at RTE. Now that most of the elder lemons have the pension secure we might see a few more big names move in the near future.


  • #171
    constitutionus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Bits_n_Bobs wrote: »
    His remuneration was € 630,000 in 2011, € 729,604 in 2009 and € 950,976 in 2008. (Source Irish Times)

    Reckon RTE were under pressure to lop another 100k off his pay minimum. If Newstalk offered him 500k I imagine he'd jump at it given he would not have any TV work to do on top of the radio.


    i was looking at the drops for RTEs other big name "stars" and i think 10% would be getting off likely.

    my money would be on a cut of near or about 30% inline with what brendan o connor, miriam, marion and tubs have suffered.

    in fact tubs - who they pimp as their best paid now - is only on circa 500k.

    so doing the maths i think pats new deal was for no more than 400k or so.

    i bet all dinny had to do was match turbridys wages and pat ran to him.


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  • #172
    constitutionus
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    jays just realised seeing as pats resigned "with immediate effect" tomorrow is the first "pat kenny show" that isnt !

    wonder if someone in montrose is busiely running about trying to get a jingle together for myles tomorrow .

    :D


  • #173
    cosbloodymick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭cosbloodymick


    constitutionus wrote: »
    i was looking at the drops for RTEs other big name "stars" and i think 10% would be getting off likely.

    my money would be on a cut of near or about 30% inline with what brendan o connor, miriam, marion and tubs have suffered.

    in fact tubs - who they pimp as their best paid now - is only on circa 500k.

    so doing the maths i think pats new deal was for no more than 400k or so.

    i bet all dinny had to do was match turbridys wages and pat ran to him.

    Fact is RTE cannot afford Pat Kenny. He has effectively told them to shove their pay cuts where the sun don't shine as he'll get more in the private sector. Fair play to him imo.


  • #174
    jeepers101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭jeepers101


    There's no way Kenny will be on half as much as he was in RTE. Newstalk doesn't generate the kind of money RTE gets from the licence fees.

    The man is 65. He's already very wealthy. Its quite possible its not all about the money.


  • #175
    therewillbe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    jeepers101 wrote: »
    There's no way Kenny will be on half as much as he was in RTE. Newstalk doesn't generate the kind of money RTE gets from the licence fees.

    The man is 65. He's already very wealthy. Its quite possible its not all about the money.

    Has He not lost a Lot in Property investments?


  • #176
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    jeepers101 wrote: »
    The man is 65. He's already very wealthy. Its quite possible its not all about the money.

    I think that's a very important point Jeepers... It's not like the time Marty Whelan left RTE for Century.. He risked his career and indeed lost it for quite a few years... Pat is loaded, and the choice for him may have been more like.. "will I retire, or will I give NT a shot for a few years"... If it works, then great, if it doesnt then he can just retire with no great loss.. Given that he seems to have been p1ssed off over the cutting of The Frontline, I'd say that is exactly what he was thinking.


  • #177
    Skid X
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    I wonder if Pat will bring his funky theme tune with him ... the kid in the video would be devastated if he doesn't




  • #178
    mike65
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    constitutionus wrote: »
    jays just realised seeing as pats resigned "with immediate effect" tomorrow is the first "pat kenny show" that isnt !

    wonder if someone in montrose is busiely running about trying to get a jingle together for myles tomorrow .

    :D

    Ah technically its "Today with Pat kenny or Myles Dungan or whoever", so it'll be a smooth transition.


  • #179
    JonathanAnon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    mike65 wrote: »
    Ah technically its "Today with Pat kenny or Myles Dungan or whoever", so it'll be a smooth transition.

    There's no way that Myles will be allowed to present the show full time.. The three people who listen to The History Show just wont have it.


  • #180
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    BBC or ABC must be really kicking themselves that they missed out in the race to snap up the talented Pat Kenny :pac:

    That's the justification used by RTE in paying out jumbo salaries


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  • #181
    NUTLEY BOY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    I was never a fan. A very good move for PK at this stage in his life. Good luck to him.

    A great move for RTE also. This sets a mark for some others who IMHO are still paid far too much for what they offer on air i.e. you can be done without when your contract expires.

    They need Michael O'Leary in there to do the contract renewals and bring the fees back to reality !


  • #182
    Scartbeg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Scartbeg


    I would follow PK to Newstalk, but reception here is woeful - may need to look at wiring up that antenna on the roof!

    IMHO Kenney does an excellent job when interviewing - not just well prepared with research, but also able to think on his feet. Just hope he ditches M-L O'Donnell and that whiney Paddy O'Gorman when he moves.

    FWIW, Myles did an excellent job yesterday giving Pat McQuaid a hard time. More of the same please!


  • #183
    Bellerstring
    Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Bellerstring


    Scartbeg wrote: »
    I would follow PK to Newstalk, but reception here is woeful - may need to look at wiring up that antenna on the roof!

    IMHO Kenney does an excellent job when interviewing - not just well prepared with research, but also able to think on his feet. Just hope he ditches M-L O'Donnell and that whiney Paddy O'Gorman when he moves.

    FWIW, Myles did an excellent job yesterday giving Pat McQuaid a hard time. More of the same please!
    Hey, Hey...don't be knockin' Paddy there now....!!!


  • #184
    ThisRegard
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    Havermeyer wrote: »
    I can't say I'm sorry to see Dunne go, either.

    Why are people, not just yourself, assuming Dunne will be going ?


  • #185
    Red Crow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭Red Crow


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    I was never a fan. A very good move for PK at this stage in his life. Good luck to him.

    A great move for RTE also. This sets a mark for some others who IMHO are still paid far too much for what they offer on air i.e. you can be done without when your contract expires.

    They need Michael O'Leary in there to do the contract renewals and bring the fees back to reality !

    What are you talking about? It's a terrible move for RTE, their advertising revenue for that slot is about to take a beating. It's a lose-lose situation for RTE and win-win for Pat Kenny and the other high earners in RTE. Of course RTE can do without Kenny but their schedule won't be as good without him and they are going to lose a hell of a lot of listeners for that slot.

    It also shows that RTE will be under huge pressure to retain the other big stars as the loss of Kenny is huge. This is a terrible loss for RTE IMO.


  • #186
    constitutionus
    Registered Users Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭constitutionus


    Email account now stands for "posts kenny " according to myles

    :D


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  • #187
    kneemos
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Why are people, not just yourself, assuming Dunne will be going ?

    He says he's staying.


  • #188
    heybaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭heybaby


    I think someone of Kenny's profile moving from the state broadcaster to the independent sector is an unprecedented move but lets not get carried away. Kenny much like the rest of RTE is of pensionable age and long past his best. Its staggering to think Kenny spent 41 years being funded by the tax payer, show me an independent radio station in the country thats even anywhere near that old, its proof if it were needed that a job in rte is virtually a job for life.

    It will be very interesting to see what his listenership figures are like at Newstalk. Personally I have never been his greatest fan. Too often during interviews you find that Pat simply cannot resist showing off his knowledge by answering the questions, he has just asked his interviewee, with his own answers. That aside good luck to him.

    It is vital now for Newstalk to back him up with the resources he will need. The other thing that is vital right now is to sort out their breakfast show. Chris O Donoghue is not nearly heavyweight, articulate, nay old enough to be Pat kenny's warm up man. I liked Ivan yates on breakfast, the sooner they get him back the better.

    Question now is will this lead to an outflow of talent from Montrose to the independent sector? Answer is NO. This in my opinion was a once off. Kenny was disgruntled with RTE and thought he had nothing to lose by cutting ties after 4 decades, he is now a big big fish in a small station. He will certainly bring some listeners with him but you cannot underestimate the loyalty the over 40's show to RTE in this country, in my opinion unless some other big names leave Montrose it will be business as usual in Donnybrook.


  • #189
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    kneemos wrote: »
    He says he's staying.

    I expect that Newstalk will shortly announce a rejig to the schedule, perhaps Hook will retire and the likes of Tom Dunne would move to the drivetime slot or somebody else will take that and Dunne will take their slot

    Also is the breakfast show now permanent with Chris and coleman or are we likely to see ivan come back with chris and coleman moving to a different slot?


  • #190
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    /\ heybaby I have a thread open for this sort of discussion if you want to throw it in.


  • #191
    GSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭GSF


    bazermc wrote: »
    perhaps Hook will retire
    Not likely! Unless he has health issues.


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  • #192
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    GSF wrote: »
    Not likely! Unless he has health issues.

    he does, its called grumpiness :D:D:D:D


  • #193
    Hitchens
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    Bellerstring wrote: »
    Hey, Hey...don't be knockin' Paddy there now....!!!

    "are you in a relationship yourself?" :pac:


  • #194
    Hotblack Desiato
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    blue4ever wrote: »
    Philip Boucher-Hayes?? - he's got the same kinda takes no bo11ox when its necessary and is an intelligent and affable soul

    You mean the 'investigative journalist' who bought Pamela Izevbekhai's story hook, line and sinker and more or less used RTE to campaign on her behalf?

    He should've been sacked.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #195
    squonk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭squonk


    Hopefully NT will use this as an excuse to get some decent presenters into their morning show now. I don't listen to NT at all really but I've had the misfortune to hear bits in the morning on the way into work with that D4 sounding twat Chris and Norah 'Airhead' Casey. It's dreadful radio. Can't stand Chris's smug voice. Mostly it's them prattling on about nothing.


  • #196
    blue4ever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    squonk wrote: »
    Hopefully NT will use this as an excuse to get some decent presenters into their morning show now. I don't listen to NT at all really but I've had the misfortune to hear bits in the morning on the way into work with that D4 sounding twat Chris and Norah 'Airhead' Casey. It's dreadful radio. Can't stand Chris's smug voice. Mostly it's them prattling on about nothing.

    Funny I switched over too this morning- just to see what TD would say at 10:00.
    I had to endure 15 mins of utter sh1t. Oh God, something radical has to be done before and aft to secure listeners.


  • #197
    unclevass
    Registered Users Posts: 5 ✭unclevass


    Great news for the taxpayer! Finally!


  • #198
    blue4ever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭blue4ever


    Frivolous I know but lets muse:

    Kenny takes 40% of his current listeners. The knock-on for RTE is that Collins drops 20% and News at One 10% not having the same slingshot and overlap with Collins....

    Old and new plotted in the attached.


  • #199
    Skid X
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    blue4ever wrote: »
    Frivolous I know but lets muse:

    Kenny takes 40% of his current listeners. The knock-on for RTE is that Collins drops 20% and News at One 10% not having the same slingshot and overlap with Collins....

    Old and new plotted in the attached.

    Interesting. It might be a good time for RTE to review the Ronan Collins slot. It has an audience but it is really just a filler between two big hitters (PK and News at One). Hard to imagine many people switch over to hear Ronan at 12. Maybe they could bring in Cathal Murray to shake it up.

    Equally, whatever follows Pat Kenny on Newstalk will get a boost (most likely the Lunchtime show with Jonathan Healy moved to 12.30)


  • #200
    alphamule
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 230 ✭✭alphamule


    Why is this big news?

    The Irish public really are quite dumb!

    Or dumbed down!


  • #201
    serfboard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭serfboard


    alphamule wrote: »
    Why is this big news?
    In this forum or in general?

    In this forum, it's big news because instead of having to gossip about speculation, we can gossip about an actual fact. Now, we can speculate about the knock-on effects and gossip about that. :D

    In general, it's big news because it's August ;)

    Actually I don't believe that. It's a big change for a "famous" person. That's always going to fill papers, the blogosphere and the twitosphere.


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