VW e-Golf

Mike9832 · 06-09-2019 9:05am

Dyan wrote: »

In spring 2017, the e-Golf had a model upgrade with a larger battery.
In the UK, prices are still at 33.8K pounds, still the original price.
But in Germany, the price has decreased from 35,900 euros to 31,900 euros.
The news on 02.09.2019:
Official Volkswagen confirmed the lower price in the UK for the e-Golf:
The price of the e-Golf to £31k, which equates to £27.5k after the Government’s Plug-In Car Grant.
Recently, the Brexit will also have a little influences.

Don't depress me

We get absolutely shafted here

Look at this offer in the UK

Brand new e-Golf for €170 a month

Only €210 a month for 12,000 miles over 4 years

https://centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/lease-volkswagen-golf-hatchback-e-golf-5dr-auto_VWGO00EGF5HE~A~~6.htm/

yop · 06-09-2019 11:52am

Mike9832 wrote: »

Don't depress me

We get absolutely shafted here

Look at this offer in the UK

Brand new e-Golf for €170 a month

Only €210 a month for 12,000 miles over 4 years

https://centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/lease-volkswagen-golf-hatchback-e-golf-5dr-auto_VWGO00EGF5HE~A~~6.htm/

What are we been asked to pay? I can't find the price

Mike9832 · 06-09-2019 11:54am

yop wrote: »

What are we been asked to pay? I can't find the price

500pm+ here and nearly €40k list price spec for spec

yop · 06-09-2019 12:27pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

500pm+ here and nearly €40k list price spec for spec

Great wee country.

Shefwedfan · 06-09-2019 12:37pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

Don't depress me

We get absolutely shafted here

Look at this offer in the UK

Brand new e-Golf for €170 a month

Only €210 a month for 12,000 miles over 4 years

https://centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/lease-volkswagen-golf-hatchback-e-golf-5dr-auto_VWGO00EGF5HE~A~~6.htm/

Why do you quote these numbers when they are clearly incorrect?

You quote a leasing company which is not VW. God knows what the T&C's are on that contract.

The PCP on VW is €370 per month on eGolf according to VW Ireland

Based on the requirements in UK I got a starting of £275 according to VW UK

Not a huge difference and that is with the new discount on the eGolf which hasn't been applied in Ireland yet

pobber1 · 07-09-2019 6:25pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

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Not a huge difference and that is with the new discount on the eGolf which hasn't been applied in Ireland yet

Dealers are applying the reduction now, I don't think the website has been updated yet.

charlieIRL · 07-09-2019 7:54pm

pobber1 wrote: »

Dealers are applying the reduction now, I don't think the website has been updated yet.

They are applying it from Monday I think. They are also not going to advertise it either.

Shefwedfan · 07-09-2019 8:26pm

pobber1 wrote: »

Dealers are applying the reduction now, I don't think the website has been updated yet.

So Mike number of 500 is even further off than it originally was

nkay1985 · 08-09-2019 1:01am

pobber1 wrote: »

Dealers are applying the reduction now, I don't think the website has been updated yet.

How much is the discount going to be? E-Golf price actually went up in the six months between two separate enquiries that I made!

charlieIRL · 08-09-2019 10:02am

nkay1985 wrote: »

How much is the discount going to be? E-Golf price actually went up in the six months between two separate enquiries that I made!

It’s €5000

nkay1985 · 08-09-2019 3:16pm

charlieIRL wrote: »

It’s €5000

€5k off the comfortline or executive? That's massive.

charlieIRL · 08-09-2019 3:22pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

€5k off the comfortline or executive? That's massive.

Both. It’s a huge reduction alright.

nkay1985 · 08-09-2019 3:42pm

charlieIRL wrote: »

Both. It’s a huge reduction alright.

Brilliant, thanks for that. If they keep the 0% PCP offer, that makes it an unbelievable deal. Might be too good to pass up, with the savings you'd make on fuel. The GMFV figure would obviously be important too.

charlieIRL · 08-09-2019 3:47pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

Brilliant, thanks for that. If they keep the 0% PCP offer, that makes it an unbelievable deal. Might be too good to pass up, with the savings you'd make on fuel. The GMFV figure would obviously be important too.

They are keeping the 0% finance alright. They are getting thin on the ground though and this will make them harder get.
I know a garage that has a lovely indium grey executive in stock if you want contact details.

nkay1985 · 08-09-2019 3:51pm

charlieIRL wrote: »

They are keeping the 0% finance alright. They are getting thin on the ground though and this will make them harder get.
I know a garage that has a lovely indium grey executive in stock if you want contact details.

Yeah, if you can, that'd be great. Thanks.

Old diesel · 08-09-2019 4:21pm

How is this going to work out with the 2nd hand stuff.

Blackwater in Cork look to be going with 34 k for a 191 eGolf with something like 1500 kms on clock .

That surely has to be 27 to 29 k territory now .

When is eGolf production stopping exactly??????

charlieIRL · 08-09-2019 8:52pm

Old diesel wrote: »

How is this going to work out with the 2nd hand stuff.

Blackwater in Cork look to be going with 34 k for a 191 eGolf with something like 1500 kms on clock .

That surely has to be 27 to 29 k territory now .

When is eGolf production stopping exactly??????

Surely it will have some kind of knock on effect.

A 191 will still be north of 30k, they won’t drop that much.

The eGolf production is finished when the MK7.5 shells run out.

EDIT: One I was watching on CarsIreland.ie has dropped 2k over the weekend
Another has dropped 7k. Both 191’s

yop · 09-09-2019 11:16am

Thats a seriously affordable car. Shame the range won't work for me as my commute is 83km each way.

Mickeroo · 09-09-2019 11:23am

yop wrote: »

Thats a seriously affordable car. Shame the range won't work for me as my commute is 83km each way.

Maybe I'm wrong but I would have thought the newer e-golfs would manage that no bother?

KCross · 09-09-2019 11:31am

Mickeroo wrote: »

Maybe I'm wrong but I would have thought the newer e-golfs would manage that no bother?

I would have thought so too. WLTP on the eGolf is 230km so surely 170km is achievable unless its all a motorway commute at 120km/h... might be tight then.

celtic_oz · 09-09-2019 11:37am

The eGolf has a WLTP-certified range of 230km, but in cold weather with the heating running, you’ll get a lot less. so 160KM could be borderline

yop · 09-09-2019 11:53am

Oh! I didn't realise that. Apologise.
Then that changes the game for me again!

Coming out of a 3 yr PCP on the Superb next June so I'm gonna check my options.

copeyhagen · 09-09-2019 12:11pm

was looking at these, the wheels are awful, changing them out apparently loses another 10% range

Mickeroo · 09-09-2019 12:11pm

yop wrote: »

Oh! I didn't realise that. Apologise.
Then that changes the game for me again!

Coming out of a 3 yr PCP on the Superb next June so I'm gonna check my options.

If it's not until next June then might be worth inquiring about the VW ID rather than the e-Golf.

Shefwedfan · 09-09-2019 1:33pm

copeyhagen wrote: »

was looking at these, the wheels are awful, changing them out apparently loses another 10% range

Which ones? the exec model and the standard has different alloys....

I actually like the cheese clicers. Something different

Also loads of people all around the World have changed the alloys and none have seen a 10% loss in range.

jontr · 09-09-2019 2:25pm

It's still showing same price as for last few weeks:

e-Golf
e-Golf 100 kW (136 HP) 1-speed Automatic
€ 47,250.00*1
My Selection
€ -9,401.00*1
Total
€ 37,849.00*1

charlieIRL · 09-09-2019 3:19pm

jontr wrote: »

It's still showing same price as for last few weeks:

e-Golf
e-Golf 100 kW (136 HP) 1-speed Automatic
€ 47,250.00*1
My Selection
€ -9,401.00*1
Total
€ 37,849.00*1

AFAIR, the executive was €41,570 after SEAI and VRT Rebate and now take another €5k off that brings it to €36,570
That’s for non-metallic paint too. You get charged a nice bit extra for metallic.

BorneTobyWilde · 09-09-2019 3:19pm

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new/201908060853741?model=GOLF&sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=gl52rs&radius=1500&make=VOLKSWAGEN&fuel-type=Electric&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1

Is that value?

slave1 · 09-09-2019 3:21pm

Nope, you'd have VAT on it, brand new

charlieIRL · 09-09-2019 3:23pm

And by the time you convert to sterling and travel over it would be cheaper to buy new here.

BorneTobyWilde · 09-09-2019 3:23pm

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/new/201907029626279?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=VOLKSWAGEN&advertising-location=at_cars&model=GOLF&postcode=gl52rs&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Electric&year-from=new&page=1

Few new ones for what seems a good price, but I no nothing about specs and batteries.

nkay1985 · 09-09-2019 3:24pm

jontr wrote: »

It's still showing same price as for last few weeks:

e-Golf
e-Golf 100 kW (136 HP) 1-speed Automatic
€ 47,250.00*1
My Selection
€ -9,401.00*1
Total
€ 37,849.00*1

Yeah the website hasn't been updated yet but the reduction is definitely there. I just got the attached from Laharts in Kilkenny.

Now it's obviously not set in stone yet so I would be wary of the GFV figure but I'd say the rest is solid. Even at that, the GFV should be exactly the same as it was last week as it's the same car.

Mike9832 · 09-09-2019 3:26pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

Yeah the website hasn't been updated yet but the reduction is definitely there. I just got the attached from Laharts in Kilkenny.

Now it's obviously not set in stone yet so I would be wary of the GFV figure but I'd say the rest is solid. Even at that, the GFV should be exactly the same as it was last week as it's the same car.

That works out at €31,618?

Any deposit?

BorneTobyWilde · 09-09-2019 3:28pm

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903286376246?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=VOLKSWAGEN&year-to=2019&advertising-location=at_cars&model=GOLF&postcode=gl52rs&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Electric&minimum-mileage=5000&year-from=2019&page=1

no vat on this one then? Exchange rate is good these days

Mike9832 · 09-09-2019 3:34pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903286376246?onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=VOLKSWAGEN&year-to=2019&advertising-location=at_cars&model=GOLF&postcode=gl52rs&radius=1500&sort=price-asc&fuel-type=Electric&minimum-mileage=5000&year-from=2019&page=1

no vat on this one then? Exchange rate is good these days

Yes that would be around €25,500 all in

Been on sale for a while too, look for a bit off

Good deal

Some car for 25k

Soarer · 09-09-2019 3:39pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

Yeah the website hasn't been updated yet but the reduction is definitely there. I just got the attached from Laharts in Kilkenny.

Now it's obviously not set in stone yet so I would be wary of the GFV figure but I'd say the rest is solid. Even at that, the GFV should be exactly the same as it was last week as it's the same car.

Loses 66% over 3 years?
Bit saucy.

TitianGerm · 09-09-2019 3:43pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

Yeah the website hasn't been updated yet but the reduction is definitely there. I just got the attached from Laharts in Kilkenny.

Now it's obviously not set in stone yet so I would be wary of the GFV figure but I'd say the rest is solid. Even at that, the GFV should be exactly the same as it was last week as it's the same car.

Those figures don't look right. The GMV and 36 repayments are less than the cost of the car.

Can you still put 30% down on the car (or trade in?) after the €10k rebates?

charlieIRL · 09-09-2019 3:54pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

Those figures don't look right. The GMV and 36 repayments are less than the cost of the car.

Can you still put 30% down on the car (or trade in?) after the €10k rebates?

VW insist on a min 10% deposit but you can put down as much as you want.

charlieIRL · 09-09-2019 3:56pm

nkay1985 wrote: »

Yeah the website hasn't been updated yet but the reduction is definitely there. I just got the attached from Laharts in Kilkenny.

Now it's obviously not set in stone yet so I would be wary of the GFV figure but I'd say the rest is solid. Even at that, the GFV should be exactly the same as it was last week as it's the same car.

CL starts at €33k now after the new reduction.

charlieIRL · 09-09-2019 3:57pm

BTW just to clarify I don’t work for VW, I just have a huge interest in the eGolf

TitianGerm · 09-09-2019 4:05pm

charlieIRL wrote: »

VW insist on a min 10% deposit but you can put down as much as you want.

I was just wondering as the figures provided stated they used the €10k as the PCP deposit.

I thought the max deposit could only be 30% of the cost so I'm trying to figure out if it's 30% of the cost before rebate and your deposit can only make up a maximum of 30% or what?

Cost = €44,152 less €10k rebate/grants which would be a 22.6% deposit.

Now if the cost is actually

€44,152 - 10,000 = €34,152 then your deposit could be €10,245 leaving you needing to take out €23,907 on PCP.

That would mean a monthly repayment of €324 at 0% PCP assuming the GMV stayed the same.

charlieIRL · 09-09-2019 4:16pm

TitianGerm wrote: »

I was just wondering as the figures provided stated they used the €10k as the PCP deposit.

I thought the max deposit could only be 30% of the cost so I'm trying to figure out if it's 30% of the cost before rebate and your deposit can only make up a maximum of 30% or what?

Cost = €44,152 less €10k rebate/grants which would be a 22.6% deposit.

Now if the cost is actually

€44,152 - 10,000 = €34,152 then your deposit could be €10,245 leaving you needing to take out €23,907 on PCP.

That would mean a monthly repayment of €324 at 0% PCP assuming the GMV stayed the same.

Maybe 30% is, I'm not sure to be honest. I do know the 0% finance is still available after the extra discount.

An executive with metallic paint works out at nealy €37000 exactly including delivery.

nkay1985 · 09-09-2019 5:27pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

That works out at €31,618?

Any deposit?

Yeah, you're right about the monthly figure not adding up. I was just looking at the OTR price and the GFV figure.

Regarding losing 66% after 36 months, that's just how PCP deals are structured. I have yet to see anybody who was not offered more for their car after the 36 months than they owed.

And, at that, most EVs that I've looked at only have a GFV figure in the high 20% range so this is much higher (higher than any ICE cars I've seen also, which is why I'm questioning it).

Third_Echelon · 09-09-2019 8:46pm

KCross wrote: »

I would have thought so too. WLTP on the eGolf is 230km so surely 170km is achievable unless its all a motorway commute at 120km/h... might be tight then.

On short commutes, slow traffic, urban roads, i get 150 miles/240 kms range consistently. That is 99% of my usage.

Sometimes (couple of times per year on average) i do a roundtrip of 92 miles/148 Kms door to door motorway at 65 to 70 mph/105 to 113 Kmph. With a full charge starting out I had 34 miles/54 KMs of range left when i got home.

That would suggest at a constant speed of let's say 113 Kmph, you'd get ~202 KMs range from a full charge.

This trip as mentioned is door to door motorway at constant high speed, so if you have a bit of motorway, a bit of mixed driving, the results above may differ, but a decent indication anyway for pure motorway driving.

This was in a 2019 eGolf, weather conditions warm around 22 Celsius.

The 160 or 170 KM commute would be doable if you can charge at home every night. Even more doable if you have a charging option at work.

Dempsey · 10-09-2019 9:32am

Anyone else having headaches with setting the cruise control to 120 on motorways in eco+?

Usually have to be in eco, set the speed, then switch to eco+, very distracting tbh

Mupchease · 10-09-2019 9:48am

Dempsey wrote: »

Anyone else having headaches with setting the cruise control to 120 on motorways in eco+?

Usually have to be in eco, set the speed, then switch to eco+, very distracting tbh

I think the point of eco plus is to limit you to 95km not just to turn off all heating and comfort functions. I actually thought it was a bug in the system how it let you up the speed after jumping from eco at 120 to eco plus , back down below 95 and back up again.

All the eco modes do is turn off certain functions and limit the power. Depending how you drive and what you have left on you can achieve the same kw/100km. Also D mode on motorways allowing the coasting on gradients seams more efficient than leaving the car in B mode.

Shefwedfan · 10-09-2019 11:04am

Dempsey wrote: »

Anyone else having headaches with setting the cruise control to 120 on motorways in eco+?

Usually have to be in eco, set the speed, then switch to eco+, very distracting tbh

Eco+ allows you to go to a max of 95km

Eco allows 120km

Normal you can put the hammer down

Eco+ restricts your speed/acceleration/comforts etc to maximise the range.

if you want to do 120km then you should be in Eco mode.

Dempsey · 10-09-2019 1:15pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Eco+ allows you to go to a max of 95km

Eco allows 120km

Normal you can put the hammer down

Eco+ restricts your speed/acceleration/comforts etc to maximise the range.

if you want to do 120km then you should be in Eco mode.

So if I disable A/C in Eco mode, its then the very same as being in Eco+?

copeyhagen · 10-09-2019 4:04pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Which ones? the exec model and the standard has different alloys....

I actually like the cheese clicers. Something different

Also loads of people all around the World have changed the alloys and none have seen a 10% loss in range.

every single site i clicked on mentioned at least 10% agasnt the cheese slicers

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/4u08f0/what_happens_when_you_replace_egolf_energy_saving/

Third_Echelon · 10-09-2019 4:50pm

Dempsey wrote: »

So if I disable A/C in Eco mode, its then the very same as being in Eco+?

Refer to the manual in your glovebox for the full list. It’s in there if I remember correctly. Eco+ also limits to 95 km/h.

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