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iggy wrote: »

I've only ever used the maingau card at Ionity.Now I'll have to go through ionity themselves.
Do I need to apply for a card from ionity or can I use the app to charge

iggy wrote: »

I've only ever used the maingau card at Ionity.Now I'll have to go through ionity themselves.
Do I need to apply for a card from ionity or can I use the app to charge

Maingau also says goodbye to the Ionity network


Like EnBW, the energy supplier from the Rhine-Main area could not agree on a new roaming contract with special conditions with the consortium.

It was only a matter of time. But now it is said that Maingau Energie customers will soon no longer be able to charge their electric cars at Ionity's 232 ultra-fast charging stations in Europe. Like EnBW before, the energy supplier from Obertshausen in the Rhein-Main area could not agree with the operator consortium on a new roaming contract with preferential terms, EDISON learned from corporate circles.


The old contract was terminated by Ionity on January 31 in connection with the switch to a new tariff model. If a flat rate was previously called up for each charging process, the direct current at Ionity's HPC stations has since been billed to the nearest kilowatt hour. This can be very expensive for customers without a contract: 79 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh). Only owners of electric cars from the operating consortium (BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen Group) can get significantly cheaper, provided they are contractually bound and bill their electricity deliveries through the car manufacturer.


Electricity price dispute bursts roaming partnership between EnBW and Ionity
From April 2, EnBW customers will no longer be able to draw on the ultra-fast chargers from Ionity Strom: the pricing policy is "not acceptable," criticizes the energy supplier.
E-mobility
Customers of EnBW and Maingau Energie also initially benefited from special conditions. But that is now the end: From Thursday, April 2, the Ionity loaders can no longer be activated via the EnBW Mobility + app. The Maingau charging card probably loses its function on the same day. "We will comment on this on April 1," said a company spokeswoman. It can be assumed that it will not be an April Fool's joke.

The separation from the two roaming partners and the violent reactions of the market and the price increase was also the topic of a meeting of the Ionity partners last week. As subsequently reported, it is regrettable that the partnerships will not continue, which according to information from the company brought about 13 percent of sales in Germany last year. But despite all discussions, the new tariff model will be maintained.

Corona brakes the expansion of the store network
In any case, Ionity's board of directors is currently having very different concerns. Since practically all EU countries have had exit or contact bans due to the corona epidemic, and borders have been closed, travel has largely come to a standstill. The result is a massive decline in charging, even at the ionity stations. We are talking about a minus of over 60 percent.


There are also delivery problems with charging stations and generators: The new stylish third generation ionity stations come from ABB, in part, from factories in northern Italy. Production is currently at a standstill there. It is also becoming increasingly difficult to keep the schedule because, unlike petrol stations, charging stations are not considered a system-relevant infrastructure in many countries and construction companies therefore had to stop their work. At Ionity, it is now assumed that the goal will no longer be achieved of putting a total of 400 quick-charging stations in Europe into operation by the end of the year.


On the ease of loading
More on the subject in the current EDISON edition - which has just appeared as an insert in the current "Auto Bild" and digitally on Readly . Photo: Edison


Hyundai goes its own way
As an intensive user of the network, EDISON learned, Ionity has Volkswagen and Hyundai in mind. However, one automaker is struggling to make the operating software for the new ID.3 Volks electric car stable. And the other one is still waiting for the antitrust authorities to give the green light to join the Ionity consortium. In the meantime, Hyundai Germany is going its own way: A contract is in preparation with EnBW, which will give buyers of the electric cars Kona and Ioniq Elektro special conditions. We are talking about electricity costs of 29 cents / kWh for alternating current (AC) chargers and 39 cents / kWh for (DC) quick charging stations. The monthly basic fee of 4.99 euros that actually applies to the EnBW frequent driver tariff does not apply here.

Hyundai customers will easily be able to cope with the temporary exclusion from the Ionity network under the conditions.

Cyrus wrote: »

so am i right in saying ionity is now prohibitively expensive if you have a large battery car.

Silent Running wrote: »

Why would you do that to yourself?

Sign up with Chargepoint. I think they can be used at ESB chargers too, but I'd prefer the Ionity charging speed.

https://www.chargepoint.com/drivers/activate/

Black_Knight wrote: »

170kWh on the road in addition to your 85kWh charge at home is some serious mileage, especially for Ireland.

Black_Knight wrote: »

If you're regularly doing massive mileage every day, diesel is likely the better choice for you.

zg3409 wrote: »

Here is translated full article



Note it specifically says Hyundai Germany while Hyundai Europe is waiting for answer from anti trust.

MJohnston wrote: »

Fingers cross that NI one is somewhere along the Dublin route

zg3409 wrote: »

Yes. The UK and Irl manager joined from Germany. Seemed up to date on all Irish chargers.

Said kill is waiting on esb supply which is delayed due to covit.

Dublin north is going from 2 to 4 chargers, lack of stock was issue

Mention of northern Ireland, they said they attempted to install at a few sites but ESB NI said they could not supply the power needed. They said they are attempting another NI site and that a request is in with ESB. They won't announce anything until installation starts, presuming the site can get the power and planning permission. They said it is a new petrol station but would not say where.

Also apologised for pricing or made excuses at least. Said people should not use ionity for daily use. Said Hyundai is not fully joined as a partner, but when they are, Hyundai/Kia may offer preferred pricing. I think it is an anti -competition assessment delaying signoff.

There is plans for new Ionity app by end of summer no plans for Ionity RFID card.

MJohnston wrote: »

That's not Northern Ireland though. Too close to CityNorth too, I think.

Best candidate imo would be the Applegreen between Lisburn and Belfast on the M1. There's also a few slightly offline Circle K stations on the A1, but I don't know what size they are.

The other alternative option would probably be something on the Belfast to Derry route, maybe the Texaco at the foot of the Glenshane Pass.