Lucinda looking for an unpaid intern.

FalconGirl · 09-10-2015 1:40pm

twowheelsonly wrote: »

Forget the laptop, the most telling statement in this has to be

"Please note that the position cannot be made permanent, but may be extended in duration".

Does she have nobody in her own family willing to work for free or did they all tell her where to get off ?? Maybe family are only 'suitably qualified' when there's a nice wage packet attached :rolleyes:

Basically she is getting a few people to join her for the upcoming election. They probably spend most of their time going door to door or putting up posters.

mosesgun · 09-10-2015 1:46pm

I have a bit of a thing for Lucinda so might stick in an application. Not sure though if it's a fella in his mid forties with feck all interest in politics that she's looking for. I have my own laptop and even and iPad that she could borrow if she was stuck. We'd have a great laugh me and Lucinda. I'd have to give up my job though.

gandalf · 09-10-2015 1:48pm

mosesgun wrote: »

I have a bit of a thing for Lucinda so might stick in an application. Not sure though if it's a fella in his mid forties with feck all interest in politics that she's looking for. I have my own laptop and even and iPad that she could borrow if she was stuck. We'd have a great laugh me and Lucinda. I'd have to give up my job though.

The plucked eyebrow look turns you on then ?

The Corinthian · 09-10-2015 1:51pm

Fukuyama wrote: »

Young, working class graduates don't have three months of living expenses saved up. Particularly when in three months they'll still be looking for paid work and not be entitled to the dole.

Not too sure why one has to be working class for that. It's not as if someone who's from a more wealthy background is guaranteed to be bankrolled by their parents. Roof over their heads, sure. Meals and washing, no problem. Expenses and spending money, that was my problem. But TBH, that level of parental support not unusual regardless of your background.

I get the impression that many of those who make such comments about the working class, have never met a member of that particular tribe...

diomed · 09-10-2015 1:56pm

The requirements of that unpaid job are so high I doubt Lucinda would be successful (or any TD).

topper75 · 09-10-2015 1:56pm

To capital, its interest.
To land, its rent.
To labour, its wages.
To enterprise, its profit.

Breaking those rules does not offer any kind of sustainable future. It betrays a lack of basic understanding of economics.
If that is what Renua are about, they will be getting no preference on any ballot paper from me as they don't deserve to have their hands anywhere near the steering wheel of this country.

RoyalMarine · 09-10-2015 2:03pm

osarusan wrote: »

I know, that's what I meant.

This is the joke people made years ago - a sandwich artist or a sandwich technician, or similar.

Like a forecourt worker pumping petrol for 8.65. I remember vaguely a job advertised stating that they were looking for a fuel injection technician.

The Corinthian · 09-10-2015 2:09pm

RoyalMarine wrote: »

I remember vaguely a job advertised stating that they were looking for a fuel injection technician.

Sounds like something Finbarr Saunders would apply for.

jprboy · 09-10-2015 2:21pm

Anyone interested in an internship as a Transparent Materials Maintenance Engineer at my house should PM me.

I have lots of windows that need cleaning.

mosesgun · 09-10-2015 2:38pm

gandalf wrote: »

The plucked eyebrow look turns you on then ?

Yes. That and her lovely genuine smile and warm persona

budgemook · 09-10-2015 4:13pm

This isn't Jobbridge - it's work experience for a student or whatever. Someone will be lucky to get it.

topper75 · 09-10-2015 5:21pm

budgemook wrote: »

This isn't Jobbridge - it's work experience for a student or whatever. Someone will be lucky to get it.

She is asking somebody to perform work for her and there will be no pay offered.

Have I missed anything there? Is there some subtlety beyond that?

budgemook · 09-10-2015 5:52pm

topper75 wrote: »

She is asking somebody to perform work for her and there will be no pay offered.

Have I missed anything there? Is there some subtlety beyond that?

Okay fine, it's slave driving. Never before has this "work experience" been a thing :rolleyes:

If was studying something with a view to getting into politics I would be jumping at this chance.

mikeym · 09-10-2015 6:35pm

Id do it for a few "favours"

:D:D

Im so durty minded

The_Valeyard · 09-10-2015 6:41pm

If I was in FF or FG, etc, id get someone to take that job, then ruin her chances in the next election, leak documents, destroy her from her own office, but thats just my sinister look on politics.

darkpagandeath · 09-10-2015 6:46pm

Do this lot not oppose stuff like jobbridge :P ?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 09-10-2015 6:47pm

The_Valeyard wrote: »

If I was in FF or FG, etc, id get someone to take that job, then ruin her chances in the next election, leak documents, destroy her from her own office, but thats just my sinister look on politics.

I had the misfortune of being in the same venue as a Young Fine Gael meeting recently, I just thought to myself god help us. All these poor kids were socially inept dorks.

huey1975 · 09-10-2015 6:51pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Yeah I would imagine politics would be right up there as a career choice amongst the scobes

Paul Murphy , Ruth Coppinger and Aengus O'Snodaigh chose it

uck51js9zml2yt · 09-10-2015 6:58pm

huey1975 wrote: »

Paul Murphy , Ruth Coppinger and Aengus O'Snodaigh chose it

Reminds me of Dads Army......we're doomed I tell you....we're doomed

gandalf · 09-10-2015 7:34pm

huey1975 wrote: »

Paul Murphy , Ruth Coppinger and Aengus O'Snodaigh chose it

A few always get through the cordons. They'll be rounded up soon for "special treatment"

Capt'n Midnight · 10-10-2015 11:04am

JustTheOne wrote: »

Would they not be getting the 188 a week?

Isn't it better to be doing something with yourself and gaining experience than sitting at home going insane?

No. You have to be available to work to claim. If it was a voluntary position with a charity then you might be able to still claim.

I'd imagine you'd have problems signing on again afterwards as you wouldn't have a P45 so not only would you loose the 3 months, you'd loose another 9 weeks or so. Worse if they consider you self-employed you'd have a snowball's chance of getting the full rate.

There is also the suspicion of corruption in the future. If the intern gets a job in politics fair enough. But if they get a job in the private sector and they get government contracts then ...

Anyway they should be paid , we don't want our politicians owing people favours.

topper75 · 10-10-2015 12:34pm

budgemook wrote: »

Okay fine, it's slave driving. Never before has this "work experience" been a thing :rolleyes:

If was studying something with a view to getting into politics I would be jumping at this chance.

Oh I'm familiar with work experience. I did two stints of it to get going in my career.
In both cases of course I was paid. Lowly, but paid.
So far nobody in this thread has succeeded in answering the obvious question of why she refuses to pay for the work.

Strumms · 10-10-2015 1:11pm

budgemook wrote: »

This isn't Jobbridge - it's work experience for a student or whatever. Someone will be lucky to get it.

Rubbish , it's not work experience or anything like it. Or an internship. Look at the criteria she says a candidate should possess and also the scope of the role and the tasks expected. It's a job without pay and you have to bring your own laptop. No doubt some fawning eejits salivating at the prospect of sitting down in Leinster House amongst the thrust and rumble of Irish politics will be sending off cvs more then ready and willing to check their sense of self worth and dignity at the door....Lucinda Cretin is no different to the rest of them in there and possibly worse then most. No self respecting person with ideals of leadership and decency would even think about putting their name to this. Just shows you the contempt they have for Irish workers and how indifferent they are to the values of honest decent hard working people.

rolliepoley · 10-10-2015 1:38pm

Its an opportunity to corrupt the innocent.

Dravokivich · 10-10-2015 2:05pm

Phillip Rapid Soil wrote: »

Lots of keyboard warriors here. Is anyone going to back up their disgust and email her?

Why? It'll be the intern getting it.

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-10-2015 2:08pm

rolliepoley wrote: »

Its an opportunity to corrupt the innocent.

I wouldn't call Lucinda innocent

rolliepoley · 10-10-2015 2:11pm

Phillip Rapid Soil wrote: »

I wouldn't call Lucinda innocent

Neither would i.

Smiley92a · 10-10-2015 2:44pm

Fukuyama wrote: »

It's not JobsBridge so unfortunately they wouldn't.

The premise of "gaining experience" is often touted around when it comes to internships. In most cases outside of the IT/science fields the poor sod ends up being an unpaid admin lackey/slave.

They had a fair few in my old job. Manning inboxes. Answering phones. Doing the post. All under the guise of gaining experience in the "industry" but in reality they got next to nothing. After the first week they were trained up and had another 5 months of mule work. They weren't even getting their dole as it wasn't JobsBridge so effectively they were losing money hand over fist to be someones slave.

An unpaid internship might be grand if you have rich parents and still live at home. Many graduates are in shared housing and can't ask mammy and daddy to support them for 6 months while they go stuff envelopes or answer phones.

I'd love to see a website set up to publicly name and shame every single company that posts up stupid Jobsbridge/internship ads that are so obviously just a free labour scam with zero chance of a job at the end.

It's ridiculous that qualified people earn less than someone who left school and worked for Dunnes. I don't mean that in a snobby way either. Just in a basic economic sense. No wonder droves of graduates (myself included) would step on a plane the first chance they get.

Work Must Pay are a group that picket business who use Jobridge. I'm not sure they have a list, though. I think the last one they did was The Porterhouse after it went looking for a free restaurant manager.

mzungu · 10-10-2015 5:24pm

topper75 wrote: »

Oh I'm familiar with work experience. I did two stints of it to get going in my career.
In both cases of course I was paid. Lowly, but paid.
So far nobody in this thread has succeeded in answering the obvious question of why she refuses to pay for the work.

Most likely the party can't afford it. What little financial resources they have would be going towards their potential candidates for the GE. It would be a decent middle ground if they offered meal and travel vouchers so the candidate won't loose money by volunteering.

Capt'n Midnight · 10-10-2015 6:56pm

mzungu wrote: »

Most likely the party can't afford it. What little financial resources they have would be going towards their potential candidates for the GE. It would be a decent middle ground if they offered meal and travel vouchers so the candidate won't loose money by volunteering.

http://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2015/0120/674364-no-expenses-spared/

Pay:
€ 65,443.50
Expenses:
€ 17,120.81

Lucinda looking for an unpaid intern.

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