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Toyota is bringing back Camry and discontinuing Avensis

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    #512
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    ofcork wrote: »
    Not bad numbers more than the honda civic!

    Civic deserves its own episode of "Botched"


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    #513
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    vandriver wrote: »
    There's a few as taxis .

    Yes but many are Jap imports of 2013/4 and so on from what I see.


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    #514
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Saw 2 today on a half hour drive.


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    #515
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    I've driven one and loved it.


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    #516
    Hurrache
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    The interior is still very frumpy though isn't it? I didn't like it when I took it for a spin anyway, seems like it's keeping like the Camry from years ago anyway.


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    #517
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Hurrache wrote: »
    The interior is still very frumpy though isn't it? I didn't like it when I took it for a spin anyway, seems like it's keeping like the Camry from years ago anyway.

    I liked the interior, clear and well laid out and felt like it'll last


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    #518
    GavMan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭GavMan


    Money is strong for them I felt and Toyota finance is not as competitive as the likes of VW. So you really have to want one to actually pull the trigger I think. Plus if you're in the Toyota Saloon market, The Corrolla probably suits most buyers needs, much cheaper and probably better looking IMO


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    #519
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    GavMan wrote: »
    Money is strong for them I felt and Toyota finance is not as competitive as the likes of VW. So you really have to want one to actually pull the trigger I think. Plus if you're in the Toyota Saloon market, The Corrolla probably suits most buyers needs, much cheaper and probably better looking IMO

    It's not as big as my Avensis inside. While I wouldn't rule it out it won't be my first choice to replace the Avensis when the time comes. You're spot on about Toyota financing, it's not great.


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    #520
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Is it seriously not as roomy as the avensis id be surprised as it looks a bigger car.


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    #521
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    RandomViewer wrote: »
    254 so far this year,

    https://stats.beepbeep.ie/

    Corolla top of the list....... surprised to see that tbh, the Corolla is by no means cheap.

    Twice as many Corolla sold as Octavia.


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    #522
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Corolla is as expensive if not more than the mk3 avensis when it came out,anything hybrid seems to be dear.


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    #523
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    254 so far this year,

    https://stats.beepbeep.ie/

    It's actually showing as 321 now as they've updated the stats to include July sales.


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    #524
    Old diesel
    Registered Users Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    Worth noting that prices are gone up across the board not just Hybrids.

    Entry level Golf/Focus are around 26 k now.

    Superminis creeping up in price towards 19/20 k.

    Mk 3 Avensis was launched 11 years ago and excluding rear legroom is a much inferior car to a new Corolla.

    Camry is a more upmarket offering then an 09 Avensis and while dearer does have advantages....

    1) high standard spec - likely comparable to a Sol on the Avensis.

    2) Auto as standard - extra on the Avensis.

    3) a more attractive exterior and interior.

    4) 2.5 engine with just over 200 bhp.

    Vs a 1.6 manual Avensis in 09 and of course 11 years of inflation


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    #525
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    ofcork wrote: »
    Is it seriously not as roomy as the avensis id be surprised as it looks a bigger car.

    Nope it's not.

    Interior space is narrower and shorter and the boot isn't nearly as big.

    It's not a bad car at all but my Avensis feels far better inside. Mine us a very high spec (As Avensis go) and it feels a lot more substantial.

    I don't think its fair to compare a bog basic 09 to a new Camry, other than them being saloons there little to compare apart from them both being big soft saloons.


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    #526
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Surprising tbh maybe the batteries are taking up space.


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    #527
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Augeo wrote: »
    Corolla top of the list....... surprised to see that tbh, the Corolla is by no means cheap.

    Twice as many Corolla sold as Octavia.

    New Octavia is seems to be delayed, wouldn't be shelling out on the outgoing model at this stage in it's lifecycle without a significant discount.


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    #528
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    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Nope it's not.

    Interior space is narrower and shorter and the boot isn't nearly as big.

    It's not a bad car at all but my Avensis feels far better inside. Mine us a very high spec (As Avensis go) and it feels a lot more substantial. .............

    Are you going off actual dimensions ?

    Camry boot is 524l and Toyota Avensis saloon (2015-2018) has a 509-litre boot according to carbuyer.co.uk :)


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    #529
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    New Octavia is seems to be delayed, wouldn't be shelling out on the outgoing model at this stage in it's lifecycle without a significant discount.

    Yep. Not coming til September and who’s gonna buy one then.


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    #530
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Old diesel wrote: »
    Worth noting that prices are gone up across the board not just Hybrids.

    Entry level Golf/Focus are around 26 k now.

    Superminis creeping up in price towards 19/20 k.

    Mk 3 Avensis was launched 11 years ago and excluding rear legroom is a much inferior car to a new Corolla.

    Camry is a more upmarket offering then an 09 Avensis and while dearer does have advantages....

    1) high standard spec - likely comparable to a Sol on the Avensis.

    2) Auto as standard - extra on the Avensis.

    3) a more attractive exterior and interior.

    4) 2.5 engine with just over 200 bhp.

    Vs a 1.6 manual Avensis in 09 and of course 11 years of inflation

    Just on the Corolla vs Avensis space argument. The rear headroom in the new Corolla is very tight in comparison.


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    #531
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Augeo wrote: »
    Are you going off actual dimensions ?

    Camry boot is 524l and Toyota Avensis saloon (2015-2018) has a 509-litre boot according to carbuyer.co.uk :)

    Sorry I'm talking about the Avensis vs. The current Corolla. Corolla is 471 litres and the rear seats don't fold.


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    #532
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭ofcork


    Corolla is pretty much the same size as the previous model making it smaller than the avensis so if you want more space it would have to be the camry.


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    #533
    Casati
    Registered Users Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Casati


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Yep. Not coming til September and who’s gonna buy one then.

    I’ve a 202 Combi sitting outside the door - old model. They are heavily spec’d in Soleil with full LED headlights, rear camera, half leather, folding mirrors, auto lights plus you’d get over 3500 discount. New model is same platform, engine and gearbox, will be min 3k dearer marching spec and discount will be 1500ish. About 23k for a 1.0 hatch currently


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    #534
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I know yeah. I was in the updated Soleil that seems to have bigger wheels and the self dimming mirror which I don’t think they had a few months ago.

    You could say nearly all VW stuff is on the MQB platform, but the new model will bring some major updates and improvements to the outgoing Octavia which out nearly 8 years.

    Not to be putting a downer on your own car or anything! They’re quite good value for money at the moment. The Soleil has some nice improvements over my Elegance model especially the infotainment.


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    #535
    FGR
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    Casati wrote: »
    will be min 3k dearer marching spec and discount will be 1500ish. About 23k for a 1.0 hatch currently

    Believed to start at just under €29k

    I love my Octavia that I bought new in 2015 but is that price a little excessive? Unless there's a lot included in terms of engine and spec that's a huge jump on what the entry level MK3 cost. What will the new RS cost?!


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    #536
    ofcork
    Registered Users Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭ofcork


    And we said the corolla was expensive!!


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    #537
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    That’s €29k for a 2.0 TDI though.


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    #538
    For Forks Sake
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    FGR wrote: »
    Believed to start at just under €29k

    I love my Octavia that I bought new in 2015 but is that price a little excessive? Unless there's a lot included in terms of engine and spec that's a huge jump on what the entry level MK3 cost. What will the new RS cost?!

    Guessing well over 40k, hybrid due first, petrol and diesels later.
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-octavia-vrs-petrol-and-diesel-versions-detailed
    Loooks very smart from the back (although reminds me of a Volvo S60), I'm still not entirely sold on that new front grille.

    skoda-octavia-vrs-iv-hybrid-hatchback-white-front-1.jpg?auto=format&cs=tinysrgb&fit=clip&ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=60&w=1920

    skoda-octavia-vrs-iv-hybrid-hatchback-white-rear-1.jpg?auto=format&cs=tinysrgb&fit=clip&ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=60&w=1920


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    #539
    FGR
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    colm_mcm wrote: »
    That’s €29k for a 2.0 TDI though.

    Isn't that 2 litre the equivalent of what the 1.6 litre offering used to be? All diesels for that car are to be 2 litre at various tunes.

    Loving the look of the new RS. The interior also looks incredible but I can't figure out whether those price hikes are justifiable.


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    #540
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Never got the love for VW clones, VW died in 1992 when the stopped the MK2 Golf, ever thing since has been decomposed muck


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    #541
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,382 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    RandomViewer wrote: »
    Never got the love for VW clones, VW died in 1992 when the stopped the MK2 Golf, ever thing since has been decomposed muck

    The masses love them.


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