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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dore point is they lied about the effectiveness of the mask so they would not run out of supplies. Fauci admits on the video that's why they did it. I agree with Dore though the misinformed the public. How many people would have walked around with no protection after hearing a mask doesn't help?

    Makes you wonder what other lies they peddled


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    enno99 wrote: »
    Makes you wonder what other lies they peddled

    Some people forget here is masks were recommended when the first outbreaks occurred in China. Do you believe citizens in Wuhan was wearing covers over their face for the fun of it? Some in the media are dowplaying Fauci comments and ignore what you could see months before on TV!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Some people forget here is masks were recommended when the first outbreaks occurred in China. Do you believe citizens in Wuhan was wearing covers over their face for the fun of it? Some in the media are dowplaying Fauci comments and ignore what you could see months before on TV!

    Compulsory not long after

    Local government, responsible for some 113 million citizens, announced the order making it a punishment offence to be in a public space without a surgical mask on January 26.


    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/01/woman-arrested-refusing-wear-mask-coronavirus-crisis-deepens-12163863/?ito=cbshare[/url




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Headline of the day:

    "Greece considers second lockdown after tourists bring spike of cases"
    From the daily telegraph

    What did I tell you.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    They say whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.

    Apparently not the case with this COVID virus.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection

    Bleak reading.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    I have seen this reported in different news articles.
    Experts from the Chinese laboratory at the centre of global suspicion over the coronavirus pandemic have ‘defected’ and are in the hands of Western intelligence, the architect of Donald Trump’s presidential victory claimed last night.

    Steve Bannon, who was Trump’s White House chief strategist and retains close links to the administration, told The Mail on Sunday that spies were building a case against Beijing on the basis that the global pandemic had been caused by a leak from the Institute of Virology in Wuhan and that the subsequent cover-up had amounted to ‘pre-meditated murder’.
    Even the Chinese government’s own Centre for Disease Control and Prevention recently admitted that the virus had been brought in to the market, rather than originating there.

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5648357/wuhan-scientists-defect-evidence-coronavirus-leak/

    Mr Bannon, who has been tipped by the US media for a return to Trump’s inner circle to shore up his faltering campaign for re-election, said: ‘I know that certain defectors are working with the FBI here to try to knit together what happened’ in the Wuhan institute, which he said was ‘horribly run and terribly mismanaged’.

    He claimed: ‘They are not talking to the media yet, but there are people out of the Wuhan lab and other labs that have come to the West and are turning over evidence of the culpability of the Chinese Communist Party. I think people are going to be shocked’.
    Mr Bannon, who sat on the US National Security Council during his time in the White House, says spies are trying to assemble a case that the virus spread as the result of an accident involving experiments to develop vaccines and therapeutic drugs to deal with Sars-style viruses

    Speaking to this newspaper from a yacht off the East coast of America, Mr Bannon said that defectors were talking to the intelligence agencies in America, Europe and the UK.

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5648357/wuhan-scientists-defect-evidence-coronavirus-leak/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr



    If Bannon said the grass was green I would look out the window to check if he was lying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,595 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It’s beginning to look like Trumps re-election campaign from now until November is going to be based on blaming the Chinese for coronavirus in order to deflect from his own mishandling of the pandemic.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    It’s beginning to look like Trumps re-election campaign from now until November is going to be based on blaming the Chinese for coronavirus in order to deflect from his own mishandling of the pandemic.

    From Bannon account the British are also building a case behind the scenes. You guys focus too much on Trump friends here. I'm more interested in the headlines. Is there truly defectors who worked at the Wuhan lab who have escaped to the West and have revealed there was a virus leak? I like to see the intelligence here, how reliable this info is.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    If Bannon said the grass was green I would look out the window to check if he was lying.

    You missed an important point in the news and seem to be a legit headline.

    China CDC has already denied the virus came from the Wet Market. It was reported in the New York Times in recent days. So how did the virus spread in Wuhan city?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/08/health/coronavirus-origin-china-lucey.html
    That idea was quickly thrown into doubt when a study by Chinese scientists reported that roughly a third of the earliest hospitalized victims — including the first — had never visited the market. In a May blog, Dr. Lucey quoted the head of China’s Center for Disease Control as ruling it out as the pandemic’s place of origin. The market, the Chinese health official said, “is just another victim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Another beauty from this raving madman



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭brilou23


    The Nal wrote: »
    Another beauty from this raving madman


    He is a neighbour of mine. He is nuts ya should see video he put up yesterday he had to wear one in a shop. Its funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    The Nal wrote: »
    Another beauty from this raving madman


    His believe is, the virus a hoax! So it is understandable why he thinks wearing a mask is terrible :eek:

    Communist Ireland:) smother yourself with a mask :eek: facial cameras don't work unless we 2 metres apart?- i burst out laughing there.

    He is an interesting character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    In fairness probably not the sharpest tool in the shed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99



    SpanishFlu /H1N1/ Covid
    Guy using CDC data to show some relationship between Covid and Flu
    interesting im not good with charts lol

    Will Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and CNN Attack and Take Down FOX, ABC and CBS Articles on COVID-19 Which Mirrored Our Report Retweeted by President Trump?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/will-twitter-facebook-cnn-attack-take-fox-abc-articles-covid-19-mirrored-accurate-report-retweeted-president-trump/

    Skip first 10 min if your not interested in who he is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    Guy using CDC data to show some relationship between Covid and Flu
    interesting im not good with charts lol
    If you're not good at science, you shouldn't get scientific analysis from youtube.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    If you're not good at science, you shouldn't get scientific analysis from youtube.


    LOL True



    Dr. Anthony Fauci Predicts ‘Safe And Effective Vaccine’ By End Of 2020


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »

    SpanishFlu /H1N1/ Covid
    Guy using CDC data to show some relationship between Covid and Flu
    interesting im not good with charts lol

    "Guy" lol

    This guy
    https://www.youtube.com/c/JasonGoodmancrowdsourcethetruth/videos

    Is posting about info from a guy who thinks the Las Vegas shooting was a false flag..

    Not sure these people might be valid sources..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    "Guy" lol

    This guy
    https://www.youtube.com/c/JasonGoodmancrowdsourcethetruth/videos

    Is posting about info from a guy who thinks the Las Vegas shooting was a false flag..

    Not sure these people might be valid sources..

    WOW I never realised LOL

    Lets see CT forum posts something from someone who believes in CTs
    He showing data from CDC ( are they valid source) ? giving no opinion just the facts
    would be easy to check the CDC


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    He showing data from CDC ( are they valid source) ? giving no opinion just the facts
    would be easy to check the CDC

    Yeah the CDC are a fairly valid source, what do they say about the data?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yeah the CDC are a fairly valid source, what do they say about the data?

    Im not sure :confused:
    I presume they believe it to be accurate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Im not sure :confused:
    I presume they believe it to be accurate

    Believe what to be accurate?

    Moon landing hoaxers use the same facts, data and information we do, they just misinterpret it slightly..

    By slightly I mean completely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    "Guy" lol

    This guy
    https://www.youtube.com/c/JasonGoodmancrowdsourcethetruth/videos

    Is posting about info from a guy who thinks the Las Vegas shooting was a false flag..

    Not sure these people might be valid sources..

    At all times, please remain inside the echo chamber


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Believe what to be accurate?

    Moon landing hoaxers use the same facts, data and information we do, they just misinterpret it slightly..

    By slightly I mean completely.

    Feel free to point out where he dose that
    As i said im genuinely interested
    Im not that good with charts and stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Ipso wrote: »
    At all times, please remain inside the echo chamber

    Of course no point in looking at the information and pointing out the glaring flaws


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Feel free to point out where he dose that
    As i said im genuinely interested
    Im not that good with charts and stuff

    Oh you want me to watch a 1 hour video featuring a LasVegasFalseFlagologist going over CDC data?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Oh you want me to watch a 1 hour video featuring a LasVegasFalseFlagologist going over CDC data?

    Would be helpful
    At least your criticisms would be based on actual information contained in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Would be helpful
    At least your criticisms would be based on actual information contained in it

    Based on the sound common sense of not getting medical information from "guys" on Youtube, especially those who make videos with such titles as "Is the Long Predicted Covid-19 '2nd Wave' a Pre-Planned Bio Attack?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Based on the sound common sense of not getting medical information from "guys" on Youtube, especially those who make videos with such titles as "Is the Long Predicted Covid-19 '2nd Wave' a Pre-Planned Bio Attack?"

    The information is from the CDC LOL

    haven't watched the other one you seem to be more interested in the video maker
    I mean thats ok never really thought you guys would be interested in the video it was for others who have an interest in this subject

    Seems an awful waste of time to argue about something you have no idea about


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    The information is from the CDC LOL
    You understand that it's possible to twist and distort facts, right?
    Like just because someone holding a source in hand it doesn't mean they can't be lying or wrong about what that source says.

    You also surely understand that just because someone has a youtube channel, it doesn't mean they are somehow an expert, or have an increased ability to understand things.

    And you surely also understand that if someone is claiming that a mass shooting is faked, they can't be a reliable source as they are either willing to be dishonest, or they will fall for obviously untrue nonsense.

    What I think happened here is you just watched the video unquestioningly and didn't check into the guy's other claims.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    This is the one conspiracy theory that has actually become a reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    The information is from the CDC LOL

    Has the man with the sunglasses and hat on Youtube who believes in lights in the sky suddenly decided that Coronavirus does not equal influenza? or does he use his special powers of being a "statistician" to derive (aka mess with) numbers from CDC data in order to indirectly back his theory?

    Maybe I'll never know ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    You understand that it's possible to twist and distort facts, right?
    Like just because someone holding a source in hand it doesn't mean they can't be lying or wrong about what that source says..

    I suppose it cold be easily proven if they did in this instance
    care to give it a shot ?
    You also surely understand that just because someone has a youtube channel, it doesn't mean they are somehow an expert, or have an increased ability to understand things.

    Nonsense lots of youtube channels hosted by experts in their field
    And you surely also understand that if someone is claiming that a mass shooting is faked, they can't be a reliable source as they are either willing to be dishonest, or they will fall for obviously untrue nonsense.

    Is that what he claimed ? the shooting was real as far as I know He disagrees with who carried it out
    What I think happened here is you just watched the video unquestioningly and didn't check into the guy's other claims.

    Well Im sure I will take on board your deep analysis of my psyche LOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Has the man with the sunglasses and hat on Youtube who believes in lights in the sky suddenly decided that Coronavirus does not equal influenza? or does he use his special powers of being a "statistician" to derive (aka mess with) numbers from CDC data in order to indirectly back his theory?

    Maybe I'll never know ;)

    Cool you watched it
    And how did mess with them ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    The thing I find interesting is the double hump thing

    It shows up in Spanish Flu Covid19 and this years Flu

    But not other years Flu charts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    I suppose it cold be easily proven if they did in this instance
    care to give it a shot ?
    We'll what have you done to verify that this isn't the case? Did you just watch the video and take his word for it without question?
    I think that is what you did because his video agrees with your conspiracy views.
    enno99 wrote: »
    Nonsense lots of youtube channels hosted by experts in their field
    Ok. What's he an expert in? What's his qualifications? Is he a doctor? A virologist? Statistician?
    enno99 wrote: »
    Is that what he claimed ? the shooting was real as far as I know He disagrees with who carried it out
    Ok. Then he is either dishonest or stupid or both.
    Someone who supports such a ridiculous position shouldn't be taken at all seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Cool you watched it
    And how did mess with them ?

    Nope, didn't watch the whole thing. I picked some points out of curiousity, about 2/3 of the way through, the CDC data is in the background, then he claims he is going to use his statistics methodology to determine the data, bang I stopped watching. In another video he's complaining about Alex Jones "using" his data on Infowars. Of course.

    He's a conspiracy loon, his whole spiel is that Corona is basically "just the flu", and if you are into that stuff, cool. I'm not. If I want information from the CDC I'll get it from the CDC, without some crackpot in sunglasses playing with the figures pretending he is not playing with them.

    As for the whole "you can't comment on this 1/2/3/4/5 hour video if you haven't seen it spiel" - most rational people have common-sense filters for nonsense, some don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Nope, didn't watch the whole thing. I picked some points out of curiousity, about 2/3 of the way through, the CDC data is in the background, then he claims he is going to use his statistics methodology to determine the data, bang I stopped watching. In another video he's complaining about Alex Jones "using" his data on Infowars. Of course.

    He's a conspiracy loon, his whole spiel is that Corona is basically "just the flu", and if you are into that stuff, cool. I'm not. If I want information from the CDC I'll get it from the CDC, without some crackpot in sunglasses playing with the figures pretending he is not playing with them.

    As for the whole "you can't comment on this 1/2/3/4/5 hour video if you haven't seen it spiel" - most rational people have common-sense filters for nonsense, some don't.

    Calling bullssh!t here
    so you watched it until he said he was going to explain what he was highlighting and stopped

    LOL

    hes a loon lets check one which involves alex jones

    hahaha your guys are something else


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    We'll what have you done to verify that this isn't the case? Did you just watch the video and take his word for it without question?
    I think that is what you did because his video agrees with your conspiracy views.

    Ok. What's he an expert in? What's his qualifications? Is he a doctor? A virologist? Statistician?

    Ok. Then he is either dishonest or stupid or both.
    Someone who supports such a ridiculous position shouldn't be taken at all seriously.

    Whatever I only pointed out your silly statement and where you made stuff up
    Your opions arent relevant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Calling bullssh!t here
    so you watched it until he said he was going to explain what he was highlighting and stopped

    He was already manipulating the figures, giving "his take" on them.
    hes a loon

    He thinks the Las Vegas mass shooting was "an inside job", he has an entire batshiat insane video channel dedicated to it. You are getting information on Youtube about Coronavirus from a guy like that, who also makes countless videos trying to link Corona to influenza

    On a conspiracy theory forum..

    And you are calling other posters hilarious?

    Okay, lol

    What other videos have you posted, on yeah that banned mental one from the Infowars reporter who has just been arrested ..

    Almost as if there's a pattern to this..

    I have a 5 hour moon landing hoax video you might be extremely impressed with, and hey remember, if you don't watch the whole thing, you can't say it isn't true :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    Whatever I only pointed out your silly statement and where you made stuff up
    Your opions arent relevant
    What did I make up?

    You're misrepresenting things yet again I think.

    And you're dodging points.

    This random guy on youtube has no between qualification to comment on the CDC data than you or I.

    You haven't done anything to verify what he says is true, you just accepted his word unquestioningly.

    He believes is something very ridiculous that indicates that he's either very dishonest, or very stupid. Thus, there's every reason that he's being very stupid or very dishonest about this topic too.

    What I am not clear on is whether or not you just agree with his claims about fake shootings, or if you didn't realise he claimed that stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    What did I make up?

    You're misrepresenting things yet again I think.

    And you're dodging points.

    This random guy on youtube has no between qualification to comment on the CDC data than you or I.

    You haven't done anything to verify what he says is true, you just accepted his word unquestioningly.

    He believes is something very ridiculous that indicates that he's either very dishonest, or very stupid. Thus, there's every reason that he's being very stupid or very dishonest about this topic too.

    What I am not clear on is whether or not you just agree with his claims about fake shootings, or if you didn't realise he claimed that stuff.

    see making stuff up did he claim nobody was shot ?

    Is there a course you need to take before you can comment on data


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    see making stuff up did he claim nobody was shot ?
    Ok. He believes that there was more than one shooter in Las Vegas as part of a government conspiracy.
    That's just as ridiculous as claiming it's faked. There's no real reason to distinguish them.
    enno99 wrote: »
    Is there a course you need to take before you can comment on data
    No. But to have those comments be accurate and carry some weight, yes you do.
    Statistics would be a good start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Welfare check on isle 1!



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »


    No. But to have those comments be accurate and carry some weight, yes you do.
    Statistics would be a good start.

    He recognised the software running behind this map as something he and others developed
    how did he put it like you baby or first car
    so I guess he understands data

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    Also interesting is the link to bloomberg

    https://www.jhsph.edu/

    Michael Bloomberg’s Secret Plans to Take Down Trump
    Whether or not he runs for president, the former New York City mayor is building the most powerful political organization in America.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/bloomberg-building-data-organization-crush-trump/581710/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    He recognised the software running behind this map as something he and others developed
    how did he put it like you baby or first car
    so I guess he understands data
    Lol Convincing.

    If he's so smart and reliable though, why does he believe stupid stuff like the idea that there were multiple shooters in the Las Vegas shootings?

    Surely if he was so smart and reliable, he'd understand why that was stupid.

    And yet...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol Convincing.

    If he's so smart and reliable though, why does he believe stupid stuff like the idea that there were multiple shooters in the Las Vegas shootings?

    Surely if he was so smart and reliable, he'd understand why that was stupid.

    And yet...

    LOL

    No corruption in Vegas right
    No corrupt FBI right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,193 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    LOL

    No corruption in Vegas right
    No corrupt FBI right

    Would you like to make a thread on the Las Vegas shooting "false flag"? I'd like to hear more about this theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    enno99 wrote: »
    LOL

    No corruption in Vegas right
    No corrupt FBI right
    Ah my mistake.

    I assumed you understood these fake shooters/ multiple shooter theories were silly.

    I see I was wrong and you share that belief.


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