Battlefield 4 Chat

Dcully wrote: »

Im just getting old.

If you ever watch Pyro playing Quake3, you'll feel old!

Jonny7 wrote: »

Very good news that it runs on that set up

But a 4870..?

You can pick up a 6870 for 60 euros second hand these days, will be twice as fast

Hope to spend 200 blips on a new card shortly, so it'll do until then.

This guy sums it up... is this just a console problem?

domSlayah

US Enlisted: 2012-01-16
2013-10-03 03:05 Quote
With the amount of time I played BF4 Beta, it didn't feel like Battlefield. I know it's just a beta, so I am only criticizing the Beta. In terms of vehicles and everything, it's awesome. However, there are so glaring flaws with the infantry controls and feeling.

1. Mobility. I don't know why or how they managed to make the game so restrictive, clunky, and somewhat unresponsive, but they did. The light jog then sprint is a really awesome idea and it works. However, the movement and sprinting itself is trash. It feels like MoH: Warfighter. The whole time I played, it didn't feel like Battlefield to me. There was just something about it that made it feel very unnatural and clunky. This linear, sprinting STRAIGHT forward sucks. Bring back the diagonal sprinting used in BF3 because the movement in BF3 was near perfect.

2. Gunplay. The minute I started to aim and use the guns, it immediately felt different. Again, to compare it, it felt like Medal of Honor and to an extent, CoD... Pistol aiming now is almost identical to Warfighter. In fact, the game felt very ARCADY. Whereas BF3 had a very realistic feeling with the guns, the BF4 guns feel very arcady. Not to mention the aim assist buff on console. WHY? Again, the aim assist in BF3 was very good. It wasn't too restrictive where it snapped to every little thing the game could sense but it wasn't loose to the point where it was nonexistent. In the BF4 beta, the aim assist is MUCH larger. I hate to be making the comparisons but it felt like the aim assist in CoD to a lesser extent, but it still felt like it. It looks like DICE REALLY played toward the CoD crowd a lot more because I can see some of similarities used in gameplay. I don't like it.

It's really quite hard to explain the disconnect... Even though it looks like BF3 on steroids, it plays like a COMPLETELY different game. I REALLY, REALLY hope some of these things will be addressed by launch. I'm not going to lie, this really detracted from my experience. Now I know everything isn't about me, but these are some of the issues I found to be pretty significant. I'm sure someone else shares similar thoughts..

Also (on PC) is anybody else getting some serious lag? I tried adjusting the setting down but nothing seems to be helping.


Any ideas?

wandatowell wrote: »

Whats this field score deal? Feel like Im missing out on some swag or something

I think it's to do with how well you play as a team. If you do lots of stuff to help your squad (revives, healing, ammo drops, killing the guy shooting them, cooperating in vehicles etc) your field upgrade score increases. If you die or go lone wolf, it starts to drop. If your score gets too low you lose the defensive or offensive bonuses you get from being a team player.

Or something like that.

Zyox wrote: »

If you're on an nVidia card you'll need to use the latest *beta* drivers.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-331-40-beta-drivers-released

A lot of people haven't seen much of an improvement using the beta drivers, I went back to the "320" and havent had too many issues thus far.

I agree with the idea of BF3.25. It's hard to judge a final game from a beta, but this has really dulled any excitement I had. Having loved BF3 (plus its beta) and played over 100 hours.

I could easily wait a year for a bungle deal on BF4 now (all DLC + game for the same price as the launch game).

Played again last night;

- seriously don't like it

<> movement is kack
<> aiming is odd and out of tune with movement and sensitivity settings
<> it is too arcadey and seems very childish

These are issues I don't see being fixed so I won't mention the wierd graphics, poor hit detection when shot at, pop-up or any of that as that is purely BETA.

kevovek wrote: »

Anyone any idea when the free beta is available on origin today?

Don't bother!

its back up now

ignore mozattack. Kind of glad he hates bf4, maybe he'll go away now.

strill having the odd frame dive problem, but I am beginning to like the map more and more.

Unlocked the carbine and am suffering fits of delight feeling like the spec ops from battlefield 2. The Ak 5C is a excellent gun. Probably the one I've blown through so far.

Is it just one test server or are there many?

Yeah there are quite a few.

Have to say, I find the helo piloting very slow and imprecise compared to BF3. Trying to make quick turns to navigate between the buildings seems to mostly end with me failing down sideways.

The laser guided RPGs are silly too. A throwback to BFBC2 I guess. Not a fan.

Also seems as though the air to air missiles don't do as much damage? I've hit the transport helo a couple of times with both missiles without destroying it.

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

its back up now

ignore mozattack. Kind of glad he hates bf4, maybe he'll go away now.

Yeah cos this guys opinion really matters. LOL (and there is no one else sharing the same complaints... not)

Is it set up now that the Support class can only resupply certain munitions? A few times now I've used the M-25 and dropped the ammo resupply only to gain nothing.

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Is it set up now that the Support class can only resupply certain munitions? A few times now I've used the M-25 and dropped the ammo resupply only to gain nothing.

there are two types of ammo supply

small which you start with and it only resupplies your primary weapon.

large which requires an unlock and it resupplies everything.

This is probably 1 of the 4 things that bug me most about it design wise as I have yet to see anything that justifies taking the small medpack/ammopack over the large one once its unlocked.

Which for me is a serious issue in game design with the unlocks if its not addressed.

In BF3 for the most part unlocks do not have a grind factor to them, you unlock a new gadget and use it over the old one, but it doesnt replace the old one, it does something different. Both the tug and mav spot enemies, but one is a drop it and forget it device and the other requires actual hands on time to operate it (sure you can park it somewhere and it works like a tug, but it still needs to be operated to get it to that spot) as such the unlocks open up options, not grind a progression.

the med pack/ammo pack change is simply creating a grind right now. There needs to be a much more drastic difference between the two to allow options. It needs to encourage a player to take the small ammo/med pack over the large and still have a unique and beneficial role.


As for my other issues with the game:

2. The menu design is horrible, quite frankly the need to show off gun porn is working against the ease one should have to swap up the kit between lives, the top bar should be drop down but it isnt. The fact that the horrible BF3 menus look absolutely genius in comparison is a major warning sign.

3. I'm really hoping this is some beta issue, but the IPD/RPG combo is *odd* I kind of get it if the vehicles were going to be somewhat dominant and in certain ways they are, but its far too easy to run a engie/recon combo at the moment, I would have thought it would have worked like the javelin/soflam where only certain rocket launchers can use the lock on and their standard mode is limited. At the moment the RPG is effective on its own and super effective with the IPD

4. This is probably the most minor, I really need the new reload system in the vehicles to be more clear. Especially the attack choppers. It keeps telling me I have one missile ready to fire, but I cant fire it, I need to wait til it loads two to fire. All rather frustrating.


Aside from that my biggest issue is the horrible FPS I suffer, but thats a beta issue that I hope is resolved. From my understanding of whats being said around, the beta is putting too much work on the CPU and not the GPU and as a result performance gets severely bottlenecked if you got a crap CPU. And I have a crap cpu, its the next item on my *if I have money* list to replace. But I am hoping that the full game will put the work on my GPU instead.

Mad_Dave wrote: »

I'm suprised they've made such a poor beta generally available on PSN this close to release date. Anyone playing this who hasn't played BF before, or is on the fence between COD:Ghosts and this is surely going to be put off. For me this game was a definite day one purchase, now I'll probally wait for some reviews before considering buying.

and it just keeps going and going and going



http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74852333


The betas are always called a disaster.

Yet somehow people have retroactively reimagined the bf3 beta as some perfect example of all bf3 was going to be. When frankly it was a piss poor representation of the final product.