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Maritime News Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Flipperdipper


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Dublin Port are looking abroad to buy their new pilot boat and have chosen a relatively small UK builder. This will be the first boat the company has built for an international client.

    http://www.goodchildmarine.co.uk/boats/orc-171-fast-pilot-craft

    I'd rather have one of the ones yer man makes down in Cork. What's wrong with supporting our own manufacturers ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I'd rather have one of the ones yer man makes down in Cork. What's wrong with supporting our own manufacturers ?

    I would assume that a tender was done and this chosen on cost / quality basis over the Cork option... If Cork even submitted a bid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    I would assume that a tender was done and this chosen on cost / quality basis over the Cork option... If Cork even submitted a bid.

    Tenders seem to be the lowest cost over an acceptable minimum standard of quality, as opposed to overall best price to quality ratio.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    No detailed article yet but looks like someone was really not paying attention here. I would say that the cargo ship, without looking at charts, or knowing the area well seems to be anchored in a peculiar area but to T Bone an anchored vessel takes some doing.

    http://www.themeditelegraph.com/en/shipping/shipowners/2018/10/07/collision-between-ships-the-northern-mediterranean-sea-YcVnwYUuEcc2QuJAiwnqGO/index.html


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Oh there's only one person responsible for this **** up. The officer on watch on the bridge of the Ro-Ro.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭Flipperdipper


    As the Ro-Ro was approaching from the starboard side surely it had right of way and the container ship should have altered course. I doubt it was anchored that far off the coast, or am I missing something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    As the Ro-Ro was approaching from the starboard side surely it had right of way and the container ship should have altered course. I doubt it was anchored that far off the coast, or am I missing something?

    Italian version of the report suggests that the container ship was anchored.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    As the Ro-Ro was approaching from the starboard side surely it had right of way and the container ship should have altered course. I doubt it was anchored that far off the coast, or am I missing something?

    There is no 'get out of jail' card for this.

    Rule 17, Subsection B.
    When, from any cause, the vessel required to keep her course and speed finds herself so close that collision cannot be avoided by the action of the give-way vessel alone, she shall take such action as will best aid to avoid collision.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    Absolutely agreed. No get out of jail. Diabolical that they managed to T bone an anchored vessel like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    As the Ro-Ro was approaching from the starboard side surely it had right of way and the container ship should have altered course. I doubt it was anchored that far off the coast, or am I missing something?
    There is one photo of the bow which clearly shows it anchored.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    See the DUBLIN SWIFT is in Dublin port? Any idea why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    beauf wrote: »
    See the DUBLIN SWIFT is in Dublin port? Any idea why?

    Is it not finished up now? Until Spring next year?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I've never seen it berthed there before. Is it normal to winter in Dublin Port?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Stena Line may reduce Northern Ireland services as result of Brexit
    A senior executive at ferry firm Stena Line has said that a no-deal Brexit could result in a reduction in services from Northern Ireland.

    Ian Hampton told the BBC that there was possibility Stena Line would reduce services to and from the United Kingdom as a result of Brexit.

    Stena Line currently travels from Belfast to Liverpool and Cairnryan in Scotland.

    They carry more than seven million passengers and two million units of freight to and from the UK each year.

    Mr Hampton said that Stena Line did not want to reduce services but that this "could be one of the implications".

    "We can't plan on the basis of what we don't know, so we're very anxious about the outcome," he said.

    He also expressed concern about the effect a no-deal Brexit could have on food supplies.

    Mr Hampton said that ports were worried about the lack of clarity surrounding Brexit.

    It has been suggested that a no-deal Brexit could lead to border checks and regulations on trade if a backstop agreement is not reached during the UK Government's withdrawal negotiations with the EU.

    The backstop would allow Northern Ireland to remain in the EU customs union and single market in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

    A government spokesman told the BBC that it was engaging with ports and that they had met with Stena Line to discuss the issues.

    "It is crucial to keep trade flowing when we leave the EU," the spokesman said.

    "That is why we are proposing a pragmatic and ambitious future economic relationship with the EU, and we remain committed to reaching agreement on the Withdrawal Agreement and future framework this autumn."

    Belfast Telegraph Digital
    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/stena-line-may-reduce-northern-ireland-services-as-result-of-brexit-37437290.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    It might also explain their decision not to upgrade Fishguard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    All over Sky today about the Isle of Wight Red Funnel ferry, ran over a few moored yachts in fog and ran aground.... Endless possibilities as to why but lucky no one injured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,478 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I see Dublin Swift is back up in Belfast, there since Thursday, seems a bit early for regular maintenance.

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:455921/mmsi:209192000/vessel:DUBLIN%20SWIFT


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Went to Larne to sit on a layby berth and was waiting for space to appear in Belfast harbour. She's not in great shape, just like the Ulysses.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭Tim the Enchanter


    Just spotted this over on the Military forum. The only floating dry dock capable of use for repairs on the Russian fleets large ships and submarines sinks.



    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...pyard-accident


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    I don't know wtf is going on here, but that is some level of destruction at (I think) Barcelona.
    https://www.eitb.eus/es/noticias/sociedad/videos/detalle/5958319/video-un-ferry-choca-muelle-puerto-barcelona--/


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Just spotted this over on the Military forum. The only floating dry dock capable of use for repairs on the Russian fleets large ships and submarines sinks.



    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...pyard-accident

    An interesting overview of the story via twitter
    https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1057055716844953602

    Lots of subsequent tweets including photos of the crane on the deck of the aircraft carrier.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A bit of an upset with a well worn cruise ship, the Carnival Sunrise had a malfunction with the starboard stabiliser (whose only function is to reduce the roll at sea) which cause her to suddenly list, before the bridge corrected the issue. Resulting in mild panic and a lot of disgruntled passengers.

    https://twitter.com/McGinleyAllison/status/1057724533338189825


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Brexit uncertainty hits Brittany Ferries' bookings
    UK holidaymakers are delaying booking Channel crossings for next summer amid concerns about the consequences of Brexit, Brittany Ferries has said.

    Forward bookings were down between 4% and 5% from some of its regular customers, the company said.

    Nigel Wonnacott from Brittany Ferries said people were worried about the impact on areas such as pet travel, health insurance and driving licences.

    The decline was "raising the red flag", he told BBC 5 live's Wake Up to Money.

    Falls in forward bookings was affecting Brittany Ferries' cashflow, Mr Wonnacott said, and raised concerns about whether it would be able to fill its 10 ferries.

    It will take delivery next year of a new vessel for the Portsmouth to Caen route, which accounts for about 30% of its traffic, that has capacity for up to 1,700 passengers.

    Christophe Mathieu, the company's chief executive, said: "Two more ships will follow as part of our €450m investment in the future. But we need to make sure we have passengers and freight to fill these new ships."

    "We know that uncertainty and instability in the UK will have consequences on both sides of the channel," he said. "A poor [Brexit] deal, or perhaps no deal at all, could impact Brittany, Normandy and the Loire."

    Brittany Ferries was founded by Breton farmers in 1972. It operates services between the UK and Ireland to France and Spain, with Britons visiting France and northern Spain accounting for 85% of passengers.

    The company reported a 2% rise in passengers to almost 1.1 million for the three months to September compared with the same period last summer.

    Some holidaymakers have told the BBC that concerns over Brexit are affecting their plans.

    Graeme Murphy said: "We normally have the following year's travel and accommodation booked by now as we are independent travellers, but are waiting to see what visas, travel permits etc we will need as we are afraid that we may not have the necessary documentation in time to travel. Seems that our annual holiday to Lindos, Rhodes is not going to happen in 2019."

    Mervyn Hill said: "We're not booking a holiday until the situation becomes absolutely clear... we need specific insurance cover for existing health issues, but we suspect the risk of a no-deal Brexit will have a significant detrimental effect on insurance premiums."

    Other transport operators have not reported a similar decline in forward bookings, however.

    A spokesperson for Eurotunnel, which operates Le Shuttle services between Folkestone and Calais, said "bookings are strong going forward".
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46095038


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,067 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Norway has evacuated the entire crew of one of its warships after it collided in a fjord with an oil tanker.

    Seven people were lightly injured in the collision in the Hjeltefjord near Bergen in the early hours of Thursday, rescuers say. The frigate has been listing dangerously.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46136564


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,514 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Just spotted this over on the Military forum. The only floating dry dock capable of use for repairs on the Russian fleets large ships and submarines sinks.



    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...pyard-accident

    Decent write up on it here.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/for-russia-s-navy-a-damaged-aircraft-carrier-is-bad-enough-a-sunken-dry-dock-is-even-worse-/29593113.html


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    neris wrote: »

    That's it, she has sunk to the bottom. Half a billion euro lost because of terrible watchkeeping and bridge operation.

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    On November 14, a crewmember from the container ship Francop was struck and killed at Southbank Quay, Dublin while container lifting operations were underway.

    The crewmember, identified as Philippine national Dennis Gomez Regana, was working on lashing and securing cargo Wednesday morning when a container fell on top of him. Emergency services arrived at the scene at about 0845 hours, but were unable to revive him.

    Ireland's Health and Safety Authority and the Gardai have launched an investigation into the cause of the accident.

    After the casualty, dockers' unions renewed calls for lashing work to be reserved for longshoremen. "Working in the docklands is a dangerous work environment. The activity that the poor man was involved in was unregulated," said SIPTU union organizer Jerry Brennan in a statement. “The seafarers have already put in their day's work so whenever they come into port they should be resting and not dealing with containers. Lashing and securing should be done by dock workers who are familiar with the crane driver."

    In a statement, the International Transport Workers Federation expressed its condolences for Regana's family, and it concurred with SIPTU. "Lashing is dockers' work, full stop," said ITF maritime coordinator Jacqueline Smith. "We have to put an end to unscrupulous shipowners and port operators putting pressure on seafarers to do lashing and securing. I hope they take notice of this tragedy today and change their ways."
    https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/seafarer-struck-and-killed-by-container-at-port-of-dublin


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    A US cruise ship captain has been been fined €100,000 by a Marseille court for having deliberately flouted European air pollution limits - the first ruling of such kind in France.

    The prosecution was intended by French authorities to signal a new seriousness in tackling pollution from cruise ships after a spot check in March on The Azura, operated by P&O Cruises, found it contained unauthorised bunker fuel.

    It is the first time a ship's captain on France's Mediterranean coast has been convicted on pollution charges.

    A spot check of The Azura in March found it was burning bunker fuel containing 1.68 percent sulphur, above the 1.5-percent European limit.

    The ship's captain, Evans Hoyt, knew perfectly well that the fuel he had filled up with in Barcelona was illegal, said the prosecutor during the trial.

    Lawyers for Carnival had argued that the strictest laws on pollution were reserved for passenger ships using a regular route and so did not apply to the Azura.

    The captain, 58-year-old Hoyt, was not in court.

    The Azura, capable of carrying more than 3,000 passengers, is one of the largest in the fleet operated by P&O Cruises, which is owned by Carnival.

    The Mediterranean port city is grappling with the polluting effect of its drive to increase boat tourism.

    The city has wrestled with increased smog in recent years, as it seeks to attract more lucrative cruise tourism.

    Authorities say shipping could be responsible for 10 to 20 percent of the damaging particulate matter in Marseille's air, which can cause respiratory problems and lung disease.

    High-sulphur fuel, which is cheaper than cleaner versions, produces sulphur oxides which contribute to acid rain and the acidification of oceans.

    Environmental campaigners say shipping is particularly harmful in Marseille, with fine particle levels 100 times higher near the city's bustling port than elsewhere in the city.
    https://www.thelocal.fr/20181126/france-fines-american-cruise-ship-captain-100000-euros-for-pollution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,541 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-port-forced-to-close-to-shipping-as-widespread-rain-and-gales-slam-ireland-ahead-of-storm-diana-37569491.html

    Dublin Port closed to shipping this morning.

    Never heard of this happening before....

    Presume it's because it's easterlies?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,541 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/dublin-port-forced-to-close-to-shipping-as-widespread-rain-and-gales-slam-ireland-ahead-of-storm-diana-37569491.html

    Dublin Port closed to shipping this morning.

    Never heard of this happening before....

    Presume it's because it's easterlies?

    Hmm.... seems the Indo and RTE News were a bit hysterical with their headlines, surprise surprise! Turns out it's only lifting operations that are suspended, not all shipping.

    There'll still be carnage on the roads though, I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The Indo love a disaster.

    I'm glad I went to Malahide yesterday and checked all my lines!! Easterlies hit the marina quite hard!!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Ulysses and Stena Adventurer still alongside, but I see the Adventurer has a tug alongside her, probably to help her turn against the winds and point her in the right direction.

    But the Norbank is leaving the port and heading to Liverpool, so the port is open.

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-6.202/centery:53.348/zoom:14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,541 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Ulysses and Stena Adventurer still alongside, but I see the Adventurer has a tug alongside her, probably to help her turn against the winds and point her in the right direction.

    But the Norbank is leaving the port and heading to Liverpool, so the port is open.

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-6.202/centery:53.348/zoom:14
    Yes, a guy from the port was on the radio saying ro-ro was still operating, just lifting suspended.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Stena Adventurer now has two tugs alongside her. The trouble is the ferries have left Holyhead with the wind up their chuff so easy sailing for them, but no empty berth waiting in Dublin if they can't get these big girls out...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Arklow Valour is aground off the mouth of the Boyne at Mornington.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Arklow Valour is aground off the mouth of the Boyne at Mornington.

    I happen to have my handheld VHF here beside me on scan (running the battery down before a charge), and heard Dublin Coastguard speaking with them looking for weather reports and their exact position


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    I happen to have my handheld VHF here beside me on scan (running the battery down before a charge), and heard Dublin Coastguard speaking with them looking for weather reports and their exact position

    I live a few minutes away so going for a peep now shortly.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    I wondered if she had broken down. A tug from Belfast has arrived now. https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:200966/zoom:11


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Stuck in quite a precarious position. Facing north towards baltray beach. The tide drops almost as far as the pier on the left hand side. Quite stormy conditions. Can't see tug as it's on far side. High tide in an hour hopefully shift it then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    From a different angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    What happens to the Captain after a ship runs aground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,843 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    ezra_ wrote: »
    What happens to the Captain after a ship runs aground?

    Depending on the speed at which she ran aground he might have been knocked off his feet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    Depending on the speed at which she ran aground he might have been knocked off his feet

    Ha! But you know what I meant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Was apparently going out this time yesterday when it happened. Pilot jumped off before getting to the mouth due to very big sea. Tide turned her, possibly on rocks now. No professional here but I think she'll need a bigger tug or another one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    Doesn't look like she has managed to get away at high tide. Given the weekend forecast I would not like to be stuck there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭q85dw7osi4lebg


    I was wrong, shes just managed to get going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,478 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    This wednesday is the 37th anniversary of the Penlee Lifeboat disaster, I watched this documentary on it during the week, worth a watch...


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penlee_lifeboat_disaster


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Ongoing incident on Larne to Cairnryan ferry (in Cairnryan port).

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-46604175

    And....

    Ship aground in Cornwall.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-46602615


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