"Non book readers" Season 8 - Speculation Thread - Spoilers on thread from 15th Apr

WoolyJumper wrote: »

Not really speculation or spoilers but more what I would like to see happen. What I worry is that too much of the series is going to be dedicated to epic battles fighting the White walkers etc. I really hope we see more tension around Dany in the North before that happens, maybe even building up to war in the North before the White walkers arrive and all that is set aside. After the White-walkers are dealt with I hope there is a few episodes dealing with the aftermath. Old tensions return of who should rule and perhaps there be a final battle for the Iron Throne.

While I enjoy the big epic battles scenes, I prefer them in small doses. I personally like more the politics of the show. I hope we don't lose too much of that in the final season.

I agree, hope that with all the reunions and groups coming together that we get deeper dialogue than ep 1where it was just a few quips each scene and cut to another character. Its hard to move the story along much when you have to go through so many POVs.

Akrasia wrote: »

Then she'll die in childbirth giving birth to a dwarf.

I do like this idea.

Particularly if said dwarf was Eurons kid - seeing as the Iron Born dont even let dwarfs live.

I made a prediction on the True Detective S3 thread when it was 3 episodes in and got it mostly right with very little info. And I can't help but think I've cracked how this is going to end just from all the hints in the first episode and throughout the series. So I'm just throwing my prediction out there. This might be a little long so sorry in advance.

- Gendry and Arya will be the King and Queen by the end of it all. A Baratheon and a Stark is the best mix to keep peace in Westoros. Robert Baratheon told Ned in S1 "You have a daughter and I have a son, we'll join our houses". That was clearly forshadowing of Arya and Gendry rather than Sansa and Joffrey. I don't think any of the main "heroes" will live to make a claim to the throne. So the Baratheon name will still be the most legitimate claim to the throne and a Stark queen would keep the north happy. It would also be bittersweet because Robert, who Gendry clearly resembles, was supposed to marry Lyanna, who Arya resembles also.

- Cersei will send her army north to fight the Stark army at the same time the white walkers army is attacking Winterfell but once the golden company and her army get there they won't really care about fighting anything but the dead. This will be that major set piece battle that they claim took over a month to shoot. There won't be more major battles because of the budget and it also wraps things up nicely by not having another battle scene in Kings Landing.

- Either the Night King's dragon or maybe one of Dany's dragons will be killed by the massive ballista that Cersei sent with her army.

- The Night King will be killed by Jon but will stab him in the heart before dying and when he does kill him I think Bran will die too at the exact same time. Confirming the theory that Bran was the NK or atleast was linked to him in some way through his messing with the past, and knew he was going to die hence the whole peaceful and emotionless demeanour he's had since becoming the three eyed raven. It comes full circle a lot like the Hodor past alteration and his death.

- Jon will become the "new" NK because of the ice dagger in the heart (just like when the children of the forest used their magic dagger to make the first NK) but he will not have any/many soldiers to raise from the dead because of Dany's dragons burning the bodies during the battle, meaning he will retreat back north of the wall to "sleep for 1000 years" exactly like the last NK when he was defeated.

- Before the battle Dany will send Jamie back to KL to kill Cersei in order to earn her trust/redeem himself for killing her father. Tyrion will object but she won't care and will most likely revoke his Hand of the Queen status because she will have learned from Jamie that Cersei is already betraying her. Leaving Tyrion responsible for most of her major failures because of his advice and she won't care what he thinks anymore. Jorah will most likely become her new hand. This will lead Tyrion to despise Dany for sending his brother on what is basically a suicide mission and humiliating him so he will approach Sansa to conspire against her and will probably be the one to end up killing her. Both Lannister brothers become the ones to kill both Queens and GRRM/D&D seem to love those ironic twists. Either Jorah or Brienne will be killed trying to defend them also if they aren't killed during the battle at winterfell.

I'm not really sure on much else to actually make a prediction and there are a few things I haven't got a clue as to how they will end. Varys and the whole Melisandre thing has me completely lost and I'm certain that's just a piece of lazy writing from D&D. They haven't set anything up for his arc or her arc and it seems to me that the whole vision she had of Varys dying was just a writing cop out to wrap up Varys' storyline, a lot like Littlefinger. Can't be having two characters who's only skill is sneaky politics hanging around during the supernatural parts of the show. I highly doubt GRRM will be writing anything remotely like that for either character when/if his final books come out.