Do Mean people ever actually spend it ? ?

Viscount Aggro · 31-05-2021 10:10am

A mate of mine has not worked since 2005. He spends more in a week than I do.

He suffers from ergophobia.

Its easy to spend freely when money is given to you. With a concience I couldnt take money from another man without working for it.

Sardonicat · 31-05-2021 10:21am

What's ergophobia?

JimmyVik · 31-05-2021 10:22am

Im just off a conference call.
One of the lads going on about coffee shops fully opening up.
Now I hate coffee. Dont care what type or quality it is it all tastes horrible to me.

He says to me "Are you still drinking tea and too tight to buy a decent coffee."

Tallaght_Sale · 31-05-2021 10:30am

It did used to annoy me when we had a really nice coffee machine in the canteen served by a barista. Very nice all the trimmings, and was heavily heavily subsidised (around 50c)..........and people would still insist on going to starbucks and pay around 6-7 euro or whatever it cost. Felt a lot of peer pressure for something so useless. I mean can we just go get a pint instead or something?

31-05-2021 11:24am

Sardonicat wrote: »

What's ergophobia?

Ergophobia is a specific phobia. It is characterized by an irrational and excessive fear of work. People with ergophobia experience high levels of anxiety when they have to go to work. Their fear is such that they have to leave early. In severe cases, it prevents them from going to their workplace at all.

Taken from google...

31-05-2021 11:26am

If the miser doesn’t spend it somebody else will.. eventually.

Claw Hammer · 31-05-2021 12:37pm

It is cheaper and more economical to be mean.

JimmyVik · 31-05-2021 12:42pm

InitialG wrote: »

Ergophobia is a specific phobia. It is characterized by an irrational and excessive fear of work. People with ergophobia experience high levels of anxiety when they have to go to work. Their fear is such that they have to leave early. In severe cases, it prevents them from going to their workplace at all.

Taken from google...

I think I have it. Is there a vaccine?

Sardonicat · 31-05-2021 1:10pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

It is cheaper and more economical to be mean.

It's also lonlier. But I think some people would rather be tight than have friends they may occasionally need to dip their hands in their pockets for.

31-05-2021 9:26pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

The benefit is enjoying a nicer cup of coffee for 1 euro extra. life it too short to settle for plain coffee for the sake of 1 euro.

1 euro extra per bag; that's 2 euro extra per week. That's just over 100 euro per year.

If your boss came to you in December and said "pgj2015, we are going to dock 100 euro from your wages and give you these gift tokens instead -- with these tokens, you can buy 20% better coffee...", what would you say?

I'd say "No Thanks, give me my salary instead". People waste money on this impulse BS.

Again, I don't feel particularly strong about this and I also do plenty of impulse purchases myself, but I do not subscribe to this 'it's just a couple of euro' mindset -- not if you're doing it every week, it isn't. It adds up, is all I'm saying.

It's not a bad thing to respect the value of 100 euro. It's your 100 euro, that you earned.

pgj2015 · 31-05-2021 9:49pm

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

1 euro extra per bag; that's 2 euro extra per week. That's just over 100 euro per year.

If your boss came to you in December and said "pgj2015, we are going to dock 100 euro from your wages and give you these gift tokens instead -- with these tokens, you can buy 20% better coffee...", what would you say?

I'd say "No Thanks, give me my salary instead". People waste money on this impulse BS.

Again, I don't feel particularly strong about this and I also do plenty of impulse purchases myself, but I do not subscribe to this 'it's just a couple of euro' mindset -- not if you're doing it every week, it isn't. It adds up, is all I'm saying.

It's not a bad thing to respect the value of 100 euro. It's your 100 euro, that you earned.

Its ok to be like that if you don't have much money, but if you have plenty of money, it is silly in my opinion.

It all adds up but so does all the money you ever spent in your life, so what, its only money, its meant to be spent. You could be hit by a bus tomorrow, no one knows how long we have got.

I don't have a boss thankfully, I'm self employed.

Sky King · 01-06-2021 7:23am

Coffee might be a bad example. Like wine or 'craft' beer, some people are really into it and they spend apparently irrational amounts of money on it. Whereas others can't understand why we all don't drink maxwell house.

01-06-2021 9:59am

A Lamb Named Miltiades! wrote: »

1 euro extra per bag; that's 2 euro extra per week. That's just over 100 euro per year.

If your boss came to you in December and said "pgj2015, we are going to dock 100 euro from your wages and give you these gift tokens instead -- with these tokens, you can buy 20% better coffee...", what would you say?..............

I'd say brilliant.

As now instead of saving €100 by buying the cheapest coffee Aldi/Lidl has to offer my employer is going to give me coffee tokens that cost me €100 and I have my years supply of coffee, which was costing me far more than €100/week even for the cheap Aldi sh1t

Key takeaway ........... tight folk are often thick

volono · 02-06-2021 12:38pm

I've mentioned earlier on in this thread, everyone's entitled to do as they please but to "a lamb named" poster , what type of a mindset must you and others like yourself must have to think that way. I'll buy most likely inferior coffee that's a euro cheaper because it's a 100 cheaper, over the span of A YEAR!!!. It's a frightening attitude imo, if that's the way it is about coffee, what else is going on. The price of everything and the value of nothing springs to mind, once your happy I suppose.

enfield · 10-06-2021 5:22pm

From a different perspective.
Brought up in Finglas in the 1950's, part of a large family. We did not realise it but we were poor. If we did not have something we saved for it or did without. Lived on 'gur'. Bought only the cheapest of everything but it still did not let us prosper. Struggled, like everyone else but eventually married and bought a house. Hit 65 and retired and got the old age pension, meself and the wife. Got the big C in Feb and had a big operation to remove lots of stuff and am now diabetic. The thing is we are as happy as a can be. In actual fact the old age pension is great in this country, considering the low wages I was used to and we can afford to buy what we need without having to budget. Now, and here's the thing, I still go for the cheapest unless I have to buy the best and pay for it. It goes against my nature not to haggle, or shop around and I know I am being mean but its got me through the hard years and I dont know anything else, God help me. The wife is trying to change me, sure she's been at it for years.
Sorry all but I had to get that off the ould chest.

volono · 10-06-2021 10:55pm

Nothing wrong with that "Enfield" , times where hard for most back then, still hard now for most, regardless!!. Not to be derailing the thread but what did you work at?, Did you's have kids? And if so, Are their lives a whole leap forward?. I hope, if so. There's a big line between being MEAN, for meaness sake and being careful etc regarding money for certain reasons. Bar private pensions, savings etc, if you and your wife are living on a (non) contributory pension to survive it's tough work, wherever you are in the country. It's not the price of anything really at the end of the day, it's the mindset behind it. There's others constantly looking to get something for nothing, off you, me and others. That's Meaness!

volono · 10-06-2021 11:02pm

Just to add, I mentioned in another post regarding coffee 'enfield'. What's the point of it ALL imo, if your denying yourself 'nice' coffee for the sake of a 100 euro a YEAR, of course circumstances allowing. I'd rather just not buy coffee, if I thought like that. Where does it end??

monkeysnapper · 10-06-2021 11:04pm

I don't know if I'm mean with money but I love buying 2nd hand quality goods for cheap money .....

I'd be the kind who constantly hovers donedeal looking for what I want then buy it cheap .... even try and get seller down a bit more.

I really wanted a fully carbon racer for years and my buddy bought his last jan for €2700..... I spent around 10 months and ended up getting a bike very similar for €700.

A lot of my friends say I'm very savy which probably means I'm just a bloody miserable bastard.

I think I just love the chase to be honest

10-06-2021 11:16pm

monkeysnapper wrote: »

I don't know if I'm mean with money but I love buying 2nd hand quality goods for cheap money .....

I'd be the kind who constantly hovers donedeal looking for what I want then buy it cheap .... even try and get seller down a bit more.

I really wanted a fully carbon racer for years and my buddy bought his last jan for €2700..... I spent around 10 months and ended up getting a bike very similar for €700.

A lot of my friends say I'm very savy which probably means I'm just a bloody miserable bastard.

I think I just love the chase to be honest

Mostly someone is always selling something that someone else wants and the seller takes a hit on it, certain things that are good quality are excellent purchases secondhand assuming no damage.
Sometimes an item you might be looking for is not available and you have to be prepared to hold out, some people cant wait or be arsed, or it can depend on how urgent the need is for the item.
I know someone who cant wait,

volono · 11-06-2021 12:04am

That's not mean, at all imo "msnapper". There's countless amounts of people like yourself, hence why that website and others like it exist in the first place. Theirs examples throughout the thread whereby people , flat out refuse to spend money. Living in houses that are next door to shacks, refusing to put the heating on( in the dead of winter) and worse of all refusing to pay bin charges but then filling their communities waste bind with their household waste. The mind boggles!!

Claw Hammer · 11-06-2021 10:43am

Sardonicat wrote: »

It's also lonlier. But I think some people would rather be tight than have friends they may occasionally need to dip their hands in their pockets for.

Exactly, why have friends when they cost money?

enfield · 11-06-2021 1:19pm

volono wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that "Enfield" , times where hard for most back then, still hard now for most, regardless!!. Not to be derailing the thread but what did you work at?, Did you's have kids? And if so, Are their lives a whole leap forward?. I hope, if so. There's a big line between being MEAN, for meaness sake and being careful etc regarding money for certain reasons. Bar private pensions, savings etc, if you and your wife are living on a (non) contributory pension to survive it's tough work, wherever you are in the country. It's not the price of anything really at the end of the day, it's the mindset behind it. There's others constantly looking to get something for nothing, off you, me and others. That's Meaness!

What did I work at? I was a welder, security officer, soldier stationed on the border during the troubles, a chef, a banjo player on a ship, a navvy, a metalworker, and even worked in a creche at one time. Only one daughter who is married, settled and doing good. Her first job was in Dunnes stores which she hated, then she went into staff recruiting. I always found the most generous people are the people who have nothing. They had nothing but shared what they had, we were all the same. I still buy my clothes in charity shops and car boot sales, its a day out for us too! You talk about meaness? these are people who end up on their own and run out of friends. I dont know how they can live like that, sure what would they gain in the long run?
Kind regards.
Enfield.

Mad_maxx · 11-06-2021 1:24pm

my fiance is forever leaving on lights , i regularly have to check the rooms to see if she left one on , she has no desire to change either and i think this attitude stems from her upbringing as when her mother visits , the same thing happens , my parents were careful with money and lights were not left on if you left a room

i dont know if that makes me mean or just intolerant of needless waste

mohawk · 11-06-2021 1:31pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

my fiance is forever leaving on lights , i regularly have to check the rooms to see if she left one on , she has no desire to change either and i think this attitude stems from her upbringing as when her mother visits , the same thing happens , my parents were careful with money and lights were not left on if you left a room

i dont know if that makes me mean or just intolerant of needless waste

I don’t think it’s mean. Your parents probably constantly reminded you until you got in the habit of making sure lights were switched off. She obviously was never told and developed a habit of leaving them on.

Strumms · 11-06-2021 1:47pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

my fiance is forever leaving on lights , i regularly have to check the rooms to see if she left one on , she has no desire to change either and i think this attitude stems from her upbringing as when her mother visits , the same thing happens , my parents were careful with money and lights were not left on if you left a room

i dont know if that makes me mean or just intolerant of needless waste

My Dad is like that, lights off, unplug everything before bed...

They got sky HD in about two years ago.... he wasn’t at home when it was being installed but my mother relayed to him what the technician said... “ NEVER UNPLUG YOUR SKY BOX, NEVER “

After about two weeks he turned it off at the plug switch going to bed... no point in wasting electricity...following morning the mother goes to watch the news... nothing.. no channels...ended up forever onto sky trying to reboot or reinstall ...

He is a VERY generous guy but he dislikes waste....

Feisar · 11-06-2021 1:48pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

my fiance is forever leaving on lights , i regularly have to check the rooms to see if she left one on , she has no desire to change either and i think this attitude stems from her upbringing as when her mother visits , the same thing happens , my parents were careful with money and lights were not left on if you left a room

i dont know if that makes me mean or just intolerant of needless waste

When I'm brushing my teeth I turn the tap off, hate needless waste, I'd say a lot of people are the same.

JimmyVik · 11-06-2021 1:52pm

Strumms wrote: »

My Dad is like that, lights off, unplug everything before bed...

They got sky HD in about two years ago.... he wasn’t at home when it was being installed but my mother relayed to him what the technician said... “ NEVER UNPLUG YOUR SKY BOX, NEVER “

After about two weeks he turned it off at the plug switch going to bed... no point in wasting electricity...following morning the mother goes to watch the news... nothing.. no channels...ended up forever onto sky trying to reboot or reinstall ...

He is a VERY generous guy but he dislikes waste....

Also there used to be ads on the TV all the time about fires from leaving things plugged in. Including lights. You dont see those anymore, but someone who watched those as a kid has been conditioned to unplug and switch off.

Strumms · 11-06-2021 1:54pm

JimmyVik wrote: »

Also there used to be ads on the TV all the time about fires from leaving things plugged in. Including lights. You dont see those anymore, but someone who watched those as a kid has been conditioned to unplug and switch off.

Yes, just the way the mind is conditioned. :cool:

Mad_maxx · 11-06-2021 2:14pm

Strumms wrote: »

My Dad is like that, lights off, unplug everything before bed...

They got sky HD in about two years ago.... he wasn’t at home when it was being installed but my mother relayed to him what the technician said... “ NEVER UNPLUG YOUR SKY BOX, NEVER “

After about two weeks he turned it off at the plug switch going to bed... no point in wasting electricity...following morning the mother goes to watch the news... nothing.. no channels...ended up forever onto sky trying to reboot or reinstall ...

He is a VERY generous guy but he dislikes waste....

I dont unplug the Sky box or anything else , my mother unplugs everything in her own house and has wrecked her FTA box , she does the same when visiting my house , not only does she hate waste , she hates other people wasting a penny too

Ish66 · 11-06-2021 2:58pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I dont unplug the Sky box or anything else , my mother unplugs everything in her own house and has wrecked her FTA box , she does the same when visiting my house , not only does she hate waste , she hates other people wasting a penny too

Keep her away from the freezer so !:eek:

tom1ie · 11-06-2021 3:07pm

Some of the replays on this thread would confirm how we had some of the highest amounts of debt back in the crash.
People losing the run of themselves.

Do Mean people ever actually spend it ? ?

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