Someone you really admire.

.anon. · 08-01-2021 6:42pm

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

She is beloved by Irish eternal students who fear having to work for a living and opinions that differ from their own.

And hated by racists. See, we can all make sweeping generalisations.

08-01-2021 6:45pm

trixi001 wrote: »

Jacinta Arden

A true leader.

Put her people first and not the economy.

As a result, they're now back open and getting back to normal while everyone else is suffering through another wave of mass death.

NickNickleby · 08-01-2021 6:47pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

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I admire people who don't storm govt buildings in a buffalo suit while being an actor ....who is between jobs according to his cousin

The thread title is Someone ...., although I suppose the description above could fairly narrow it down alright

:D

08-01-2021 6:51pm

Hyperbollix wrote: »

Roy Keane. For someone from Cork to rise to the pinnacle of English football and now punditry, is quite something.

You make it sound like he had a learning disability.......

ILoveYourVibes · 08-01-2021 6:53pm

Jamila Musayeva

She wrote a book on etiquette.

Gregor Samsa · 08-01-2021 7:05pm

Diogenes of Sinope.

Lying in the sun one day, Alexander The Great (arguably the most powerful man in that area of the world at the time, and a fan of the philosopher) approached Diogenes and asked if there was anything he wanted. Diogenes replied "Yes, stand a little out of my sun"

He also gave Plato a bit of a slagging using a chicken.

EmmetSpiceland · 08-01-2021 7:07pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Diogenes of Sinope.

Lying in the sun one day, Alexander The Great (arguably the most powerful man in that area of the world at the time, and a fan of the philosopher) approached Diogenes and asked if there was anything he wanted. Diogenes replied "Yes, stand a little out of my sun"

He also gave Plato a bit of a slagging using a chicken.

A cynical choice, G.

ILoveYourVibes · 08-01-2021 7:10pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Diogenes of Sinope.

Lying in the sun one day, Alexander The Great (arguably the most powerful man in that area of the world at the time, and a fan of the philosopher) approached Diogenes and asked if there was anything he wanted. Diogenes replied "Yes, stand a little out of my sun"

He also gave Plato a bit of a slagging using a chicken.

He was against property rights though.

Gregor Samsa · 08-01-2021 7:13pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He was against property rights though.

Well, in fairness, he was against pretty much every societal norm that existed in his day. You'd be disappointed if he wasn't against property rights.

ILoveYourVibes · 08-01-2021 7:16pm

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Well, in fairness, he was against pretty much every societal norm that existed in his day. You'd be disappointed if he wasn't against property rights.

I suppose we must not compare him with the hippies of today.

I mean they really killed odd balls back then. He must have been pretty bad ass.

Mister Vain · 08-01-2021 7:22pm

Jacinda Ardern. A terrific woman and leader.

Duke of Url · 08-01-2021 7:24pm

Elon Musk

Hyperbollix · 08-01-2021 7:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You make it sound like he had a learning disability.......

More a personality disorder

PARlance · 08-01-2021 7:32pm

Mary Robinson, a lot of people talk about Italia 90 as giving the nation a feel good factor. I think Mary played a huge role in the transformation of Ireland in the early 90's.

Hamachi · 08-01-2021 7:36pm

Sonia O'Sullivan.

Immensely gifted athlete from a very young age.
Moved to the US alone at 17 to take up an athletics scholarship in Villanova.
Won European, World, and Olympic medals on the track.
Recovered from the devastating psychological blow of the 1996 Atlanta Olympics to secure silver in the 5,000 meters at Sydney 2000.
Denied her rightful achievements in 1993 by drug-fueled Chinese athletes.
Allegedly denied Olympic gold in Sydney 2000 by Gabriella Szabo, whose husband and coach was later found with a car load of PEDs.
Continues to give back to Irish sport on her frequent visits to this country.

All-up, an incredible example of what Irish people are capable of achieving on the global stage with a combination of talent and determination.

trixi001 · 08-01-2021 7:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

A true leader.

Put her people first and not the economy.

As a result, they're now back open and getting back to normal while everyone else is suffering through another wave of mass death.

My admiration has nothing to do with Covid - many of the things she did pre covid are amazing - the way she reacted to the Christchurch attacks etc, her family friendly policies etc.

As for Covid - she had an advantage to every other leader, the remoteness of New Zealand meant few cases were on the islands when the pandemic was declared. Its a 3 hour flight to Australia, so people aren't flying in/out for a few hours for meetings etc. (although i have family in New Zealand, and they aren't so keen on the policy of keeping the borders closed, and the enormous cost of mandatory quarantine)

ILoveYourVibes · 08-01-2021 7:40pm

lavinia kerwick

https://avondhupress.ie/lavinia-kerwick-still-changing-ireland-for-the-better/

08-01-2021 7:41pm

Michael Schumacher

08-01-2021 7:41pm

J. R Tolkein

08-01-2021 7:43pm

Nikki Lauda

Recovered from very serious burns in 1976 F1 crash. Very competent businessman.

Some Yoke · 08-01-2021 7:46pm

Joe Schmidt. Attention to detail, get the basics right, focus on the next task ahead not abstract ideas, personnel management, no guff or sledging others.

wiggle16 · 08-01-2021 7:49pm

Edward Jenner. And not just cos it's topical, I've always thought the man should have three of everything named after him.

ancapailldorcha · 08-01-2021 8:12pm

I'd be inclined to moot Angela Merkel as well. She enjoyed a career in Physics research before rising to the top of a male-dominated conservative party.

Riddle101 · 08-01-2021 8:22pm

Michael Collins

wiggle16 · 08-01-2021 8:25pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I'd be inclined to moot Angela Merkel as well. She enjoyed a career in Physics research before rising to the top of a male-dominated conservative party.

Reminds me of another: theoretical physicist Leonard Susskind. He was a plumber who went on to put himself through college and came up with string theory and the holographic principle. He's very funny too.

iamstop · 08-01-2021 8:35pm

A.O.C
Ilhan Omar
Serena Williams
My OH
Julian Assange
Edward Snowden
Chelsea Manning

08-01-2021 8:35pm

Nikola Tesla, a bona fide genius.

Many of his inventions are responsible for making the modern world go around. He was working on providing free electricity to the world and fought against the thief Thomas Edison and the wider capitalist society.

Upon his death his house was raided by the FBI and his belongings seized.

maudgonner · 08-01-2021 8:36pm

Michael Davitt - you can stick your Patrick Pearses, your Wolfe Tones, your DeValeras, even your Michael Collinses, Davitt is the historical hero for me! Overcame a horrible start in life - family evicted from their farm, had to emigrate to Lancashire where he worked in a cotton mill from age 9, and had a horrible accident aged 11. Jailed as a Fenian gunrunner but realised that peaceful means could bring about more change for the Irish than violence. The Land War worked - it reformed land ownership through (largely) peaceful agitation and changed Ireland and the lives of Irish people forever (arguably more even than the War of Independence did). Davitt travelled the world, writing about human rights violations and the hardships suffered by minority populations in South Africa, Australasia, the Pacific, Russia, North America etc. He played chess with Tolstoy and turned the sod in Celtic Park. He inspired Gandhi and Martin Luther King.

And he did it all with one hand tied behind his back

Everlong1 · 08-01-2021 8:49pm

Bono. For being the frontman of one of the best bands in rock history who put this country on the map during the '80's when the only stories coming out of Ireland were unemployment, recession and the daily slaughter in the North. Still doing it today.

And for having the courage to keep doing it despite the torrent of abuse he gets from bitter little losers the length and breath of the country.

See also: Adam Clayton, The Edge and Larry Mullen Junior.

Capt. Autumn · 08-01-2021 9:06pm

Everlong1 wrote: »

Bono. For being the frontman of one of the best bands in rock history who put this country on the map during the '80's when the only stories coming out of Ireland were unemployment, recession and the daily slaughter in the North. Still doing it today.

And for having the courage to keep doing it despite the torrent of abuse he gets from bitter little losers the length and breadth of the country.

See also: Adam Clayton, The Edge and Larry Mullen Junior.

The main problem people have with Bono, apart from his proclivity to pontificate is that he stayed on stage far too long. He outstayed his welcome and by now it's almost impossible to remember how vibrant and exciting U2 were in the early 80's.

Everlong1 · 08-01-2021 9:15pm

Capt. Autumn wrote: »

The main problem people have with Bono, apart from his proclivity to pontificate is that he stayed on stage far too long. He outstayed his welcome and by now it's almost impossible to remember how vibrant and exciting U2 were in the early 80's.

The hundreds of thousands who flocked to their Joshua Tree anniversary and Experience and Innocence Tours a few years ago might disagree.

AllForIt · 08-01-2021 9:27pm

I'd be inclined to moot Margaret Thatcher. She enjoyed a career in Chemistry research before studying law, then rose to the top of a male-dominated conservative party and remains there to this day.

wiggle16 · 08-01-2021 9:38pm

AllForIt wrote: »

I'd be inclined to moot Margaret Thatcher. She enjoyed a career in Chemistry research before studying law, then rose to the top of a male-dominated conservative party and remains there to this day.

I'd never say I admire her, but she was definitely a more multifaceted character than people tend to think.

Junkyard Tom · 08-01-2021 9:46pm

Nicholas Winton.

ablelocks · 08-01-2021 10:05pm

TK Whitaker - Irish Times obit

Junkyard Tom · 08-01-2021 10:06pm

theguzman wrote: »

Donald Trump, an alpha male

He's a draft-dodging coward who'd be an utter liability in a difficult situation.

Let's see if the wimp hangs around to face the music in the next months/years.

Frankie Machine · 08-01-2021 10:12pm

Deleted User wrote: »

On a serious note, Corbyn would be mine too. A fine man.

Tony Been would be another. A man that grew up in wealth, inherited a peerage from his father, fought to renounce his title which led to the Peerage Act of 1963 and spent the rest of his life fighting for the ordinary man and woman.

His speech on Iraq is one of the finest that has been given in Westminster.

Yes, a very decent man.

His November '90 speech in the Commons on Maastricht, was at least as magnificent...

Some people genuinely believe that we shall never get social justice from the British Government, but we shall get it from Jacques Delors.

We are discussing whether the British people are to be allowed to elect those who make the laws under the which they are governed. The argument is nothing to do with whether we should get more maternity leave from Madame Papandreou than from Madame Thatcher. That is not the issue.

I invite the House to vote against the Government's motion and not to support a motion which purports to take us faster into a Community which cannot reflect the aspirations of those who put us here. That is not a nationalist argument, nor is it about sovereignty. It is a democratic argument, and it should be decisive in a democratic Chamber.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199192/cmhansrd/1991-11-20/Debate-6.html

I admired him greatly.

One person I admire, and whom I wish more people knew of, was Jack White from Broughshane, Co. Antrim.

A co-founder of the Irish Citizen army, from Unionist stock, Winchester College and Sandhurst, Gordon Highlanders in the Boer War.

White started to develop a dislike for the British ruling classes while in South Africa. It is said that at the battle of Doornkop he was one of the first to go over the top. Looking back, he saw one 17-year-old youth shivering with fright in the trench. An officer cried "shoot him". White is said to have aimed his pistol at the officer and replied, "Do so, and I'll shoot you"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_White_(trade_unionist)

Red Cross medic in Spain, where he became involved in anarchism.

What a man, what a life.

ps Merkel, on the other hand... ugh. Detestable. OP on a wind-up, certainly.

Sam Hain · 08-01-2021 10:12pm

Michael Malloy, known as either Mike the Durable or Iron Mike.
An Irish man who lived in New York City during the 1920s and 1930s. A former firefighter, he is most famous for surviving a number of murder attempts on his life by five acquaintances, who were attempting to commit homicide and life insurance fraud. Some story, If you never heard it, check out the wiki at least.

AllForIt · 08-01-2021 10:50pm

I have to say I'm really surprised by the adoration of Jeremy Corbyn. Aside from his woeful management of the Labour party I find him to one of the most unlikable short tempered politicians I've come across, and I could say the same about some other current Labour politicians, but he set the bar. I found him to be more of an ideologue than an actual pragmatic politician, hence the manner of his demise never came as a surprise to me or to anyone I'd imagine.

Tony Benn on the other hand had a personality the diametric opposite of Corbyn. A man of intelligence and conviction but wasn't swallowed up by his own opinions and saw the bigger picture, totally unlike Corbyn.

Thelonious Monk · 08-01-2021 10:53pm

Capt. Autumn wrote: »

The main problem people have with Bono, apart from his proclivity to pontificate is that he stayed on stage far too long. He outstayed his welcome and by now it's almost impossible to remember how vibrant and exciting U2 were in the early 80's.

I don't actually mind him he seems ok, I just never want to hear the music again because it was so bloody overplayed throughout my lifetime

Thelonious Monk · 08-01-2021 10:54pm

George Orwell. Fascinating mind. And his books are genius while being really accessible and easy to read. I just wish he lived longer to write more.

ancapailldorcha · 08-01-2021 10:57pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

He's a draft-dodging coward who'd be an utter liability in a difficult situation.

Let's see if the wimp hangs around to face the music in the next months/years.

I don't get the alpha male thing. Surely, what makes alpha males alpha is just the way they are rather than affectations to the same effect. At the very least, having to pay and buy the silence of prostitutes alone is a disqualifier IMO.

eviltwin · 08-01-2021 10:59pm

My granny. She won’t be remembered by anyone outside my family but she was a great woman. Born in the early 1900’s, she worked to help pay my grandfather’s way through college. She held down a job while having nine children and became a widow early on. She was a dressmaker for a music hall in Liverpool, she helped out the girls who got into trouble, didn’t judge the homosexuals and even rented a room to a black family in the 40’s which was unheard of at the time but she always judged people in their character, not their class or position in life. She was the first person I ever heard use the C word and was always unapologetically herself and didn’t care what anyone thought of her.

Junkyard Tom · 08-01-2021 11:07pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Surely, what makes alpha males alpha is just the way they are rather than affectations to the same effect.

I always imagine who I'd like to have next to me if I was in a difficult such as a natural disaster, foxhole in a battle, stranded on a desert island, or whatnot (not necessarily male either).

Donald Trump would be an utter liability - he's used to bankrupting and buying his way out of 'difficult' situations.

Rothko · 08-01-2021 11:15pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I don't get the alpha male thing. Surely, what makes alpha males alpha is just the way they are rather than affectations to the same effect. At the very least, having to pay and buy the silence of prostitutes alone is a disqualifier IMO.

Trump is the opposite of what would be considered a "alpha male".

NickNickleby · 08-01-2021 11:27pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

George Orwell. Fascinating mind. And his books are genius while being really accessible and easy to read. I just wish he lived longer to write more.

Whenever I read about political parties foaming at the mouth over something or other, I often think of "Homage to Catalonia". You're there with him, tasting the disillusionment.

There's something 'honest' about what he writes, if you get my drift. Makes his stuff very engaging. (all three books that I read, anyway :eek::o:D ).

Look him up in Wikipedia - there's an interesting quote from him about Dickens. Sort of admiring the activist in Dickens.

Thank God for great writers, folks!

theguzman · 08-01-2021 11:47pm

Rothko wrote: »

Trump is the opposite of what would be considered a "alpha male".

He bedded plenty high-profile good looking women and the Guardian even did a piece on it before he even got elected back in 2016.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/oct/10/do-alpha-males-even-exist-donald-trump

John_Rambo · 08-01-2021 11:54pm

Alfred Russel Wallace, Charles Darwin and the tragic, super talented Robert Fitzroy. And... the relationship between Darwin, Fitzroy and the man that put them together, Francis Beaufort. Men of men.

Thelonious Monk · 09-01-2021 12:08am

NickNickleby wrote: »

Whenever I read about political parties foaming at the mouth over something or other, I often think of "Homage to Catalonia". You're there with him, tasting the disillusionment.

There's something 'honest' about what he writes, if you get my drift. Makes his stuff very engaging. (all three books that I read, anyway :eek::o:D ).

Look him up in Wikipedia - there's an interesting quote from him about Dickens. Sort of admiring the activist in Dickens.

Thank God for great writers, folks!

He never tried to lose anyone in complicated of wistful prose. Homage to Cat is great, the man had his principles. I've paid "homage" to his little house in Notting Hill many times.

Church on Tuesday · 09-01-2021 12:12am

theguzman wrote: »

He bedded plenty high-profile good looking women and the Guardian even did a piece on it before he even got elected back in 2016.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2016/oct/10/do-alpha-males-even-exist-donald-trump

He's a seriously insecure chap.

Someone you really admire.

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