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When did the Irish stop speaking Irish?

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  • 01-01-2016 4:50pm
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    Dots1982
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    I'm guessing it was sometime in the 19th century. Anyone know?


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    BoJack Horseman
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    There was no line in the sand.... It was gradual decline.


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    Orangebrigade
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    1821.


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    The Backwards Man
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    They haven't


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    Harry Palmr
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    When it became profitable.


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    El Weirdo
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    3.15 pm


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    ancapailldorcha
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    I've read that it was on the decline before the English invasion. It was being supplanted by English which was associated with progress and modernisation at the time.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    Dots1982
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    BoJack Horseman wrote: »
    There was no line in the sand.... It was gradual decline.

    Ok when did the majority stop speaking Irish?


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    Charles Babbage
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    I've read that it was on the decline before the English invasion. It was being supplanted by English which was associated with progress and modernisation at the time.

    So the decline in Irish started before the 12th century? Perhaps you should read different books.


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    mad muffin
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    'Twas the year of our lord 1662


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    whatismyname
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    Orangebrigade wrote: »
    1821.

    Nah, I think it was 1842.


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    The Raptor
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    It was when Peig came along.


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    TallGlass
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    My question is. How come the majority of Irish people cannot grasp a second language. I would love to speak Irish, German or French but I just can't do it. Is it because its just too easy most of the time other people speak English. I don't know but would love to speak another.


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    darkpagandeath
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    Would Irish not be a modern term anyway....


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    Ruu
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    Níl a fhios agam.


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    aaronjumper
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    Ruu wrote: »
    Níl a fhios agam.
    My Irish teacher always regretted teaching me this phrase.


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    The Raptor
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    Ruu wrote: »
    Níl a fhios agam.

    Je ne sais pas.

    I had more French than Irish.


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    DopeTech
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    July 19th


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    granturismo
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    As soon as the leaving cert was over.


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    cornholiooo
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    Would 1% of the Irish population be fluent irish speakers???


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    bilbot79
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    TallGlass wrote: »
    My question is. How come the majority of Irish people cannot grasp a second language. I would love to speak Irish, German or French but I just can't do it. Is it because its just too easy most of the time other people speak English. I don't know but would love to speak another.

    It takes a lot of effort when you don't live in the other country.


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    Mantis Toboggan
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    TallGlass wrote: »
    My question is. How come the majority of Irish people cannot grasp a second language. I would love to speak Irish, German or French but I just can't do it. Is it because its just too easy most of the time other people speak English. I don't know but would love to speak another.

    No English speaking country is good at learning other languages mainly because everything is in English and there's no need to learn!

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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    catbear
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    Post famine English was favoured over Irish in peoples homes. It was seen as a way to the world which had opened massively through globalized trade.

    It must be stressed though that English wasn't learned but adapted through Irish, hence Hiberno-English.


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    The Raptor
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    bilbot79 wrote: »
    It takes a lot of effort when you don't live in the other country.

    What if you live in the country the language is spoken? In our case, Ireland.

    They don't do anything for promoting speaking Irish except seachtain na gaeilge. Just a week of Irish speaking. It should be made fun to speak it every day.


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    Caoimhgh1n
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    What does this have to do with After Hours?


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    c_man
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    The Raptor wrote: »
    They don't do anything for promoting speaking Irish except seachtain na gaeilge. Just a week of Irish speaking.

    Well it's usually two weeks in fairness. I know, I know...


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    MRnotlob606
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    nuair a chonaic mé do mháthair


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    The Raptor
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    c_man wrote: »
    Well it's usually two weeks in fairness. I know, I know...

    Thanks for correcting me. But two weeks in the year isn't much, in Ireland. It should be every day of the year.

    You don't go to France to find that they speak French for two weeks in March.


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    riffmongous
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    Tyson Fury wrote: »
    No English speaking country is good at learning other languages mainly because everything is in English and there's no need to learn!
    Yep everything, there is no culture beyond the anglosphere.. such a sad thing to believe


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    masti123
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    Actually, in the 2011 census, 1.77 million people declared they could speak Irish.


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    Caoimhgh1n
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    masti123 wrote: »
    Actually, in the 2011 census, 1.77 million people declared they could speak Irish.

    This is why you can never trust a census.


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