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    #32
    KaneToad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    tallaghtfornia wrote: »
    I stopped watching this rubbish years ago but I still have to pay the license fee.
    I don't even have any RTE apps on my phone.
    '.

    Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

    RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...


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    #33
    KaneToad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    Edgware wrote: »
    Miriam " oh you're wonderful" comes to mind immediately

    Her interview with Margaret Cash epitomises this.


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    #34
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

    RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

    I don't watch sport and have no interest in live TV nor do any of my household.
    If people want to watch these programs they should be made pay to watch them through a subscription service such as Sky or Virgin the people who don't want to watch should not have to pay. The License fee is just an out dated stealth tax.


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    #35
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users Posts: 6,053 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    RTE and Truth. Strange bedfellows.
    RTE = TRUTH.
    The official propaganda mouthpiece of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was 'Pravda' which means truth!
    Its been tried before RTE!


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    #36
    Open the Pubs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 396 ✭✭Open the Pubs


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

    RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

    They made a big deal about reshowing Love Hate in June, one of the only decent shows they ever made, and then switched it a few weeks in from Friday nights to Monday.

    They then abruptly stopped showing it after Season 2 with no explanation, with 3 seasons still left. They can't even put on repeats without utter incompetence.


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    #37
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    I think it's fair to say it's heavily biased towards the Democrat Party, particularly the new Washington correspondent. I don't think there has been a good or positive word about President Trump on RTE in 5 years.

    Probably because there's nothing positive to say


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    #38
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    They made a big deal about reshowing Love Hate in June, one of the only decent shows they ever made, and then switched it a few weeks in from Friday nights to Monday.

    They then abruptly stopped showing it after Season 2 with no explanation, with 3 seasons still left. They can't even put on repeats without utter incompetence.

    :eek TV debate!! Write and complain.


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    #39
    Open the Pubs
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    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    Probably because there's nothing positive to say
    Biased nonsense. Their economy and job growth was flying befoe the pandemic. They had many years. You are claiming that Trump admin has not done one positive thing at all, in 4 years?

    RTE are supposed to be neutral not broadcasting PR and propaganda for the Democrat Party.


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    #40
    Open the Pubs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 396 ✭✭Open the Pubs


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    :eek TV debate!! Write and complain.

    What?


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    #41
    KevRossi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    I still get the news in the morning, listen to 'What it says in the papers' and turn it off then. Listened to Sean O'Rourke regularly enough, thought Sarah McInerney was a good replacement, but they did their usual messing around and put Claire Byrne in on a long term contract. She's a poor replacement.

    I stopped listening to most of their news in 2016. Their constant pro-Clinton and anti-Trump news was beginning to sicken me (I don't like Clinton, but would prefer her to Trump). It was never ending; Morning Ireland's biased slants, Joe Duffy and Ray D'Arcy spouting their own personal opinions and every other broadcaster inable to hold their contempt for Trump.

    We had our own General Election in February 2016, it was a kind of snap election, had a 3 week run in. But on at least 3 times during that election, they lead with anti-Trump stories when he was seeking the nomination to run for the Republicans, a full 7 bloody months out from the election, whilst we were 7-10 days away from our own.

    The shock in their voices on the morning he was elected said everything you need to know about them. I also have no idea how Miriam O'Callaghan was left in a current affairs role after her biased treatment of Martin McGuinness during the 2011 election.


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    #42
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    KaneToad wrote: »
    Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

    RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

    I don't watch any of these things.


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    #43
    Quaderno
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    tallaghtfornia wrote: »
    I don't watch sport and have no interest in live TV nor do any of my household. (...) The License fee is just an out dated stealth tax.

    Actually you can easily and legally avoid paying the tax by getting rid of your tv if you have no interest in it anyway. It's a lot more difficult in other countries.


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    #44
    Mullaghteelin
    Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    Biased nonsense. Their economy and job growth was flying befoe the pandemic. They had many years. You are claiming that Trump admin has not done one positive thing at all, in 4 years?

    RTE are supposed to be neutral not broadcasting PR and propaganda for the Democrat Party.

    Their cherry picking of US news is the worst. They'll cover some obscure story that even their hero's in CNN didn't bother with, while totally ignoring countless other stories. Negative news about the Democrats, and ESPECIALLY, the Clintons, is totally off limits.


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    #45
    KaneToad
    Registered Users Posts: 3,180 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    tallaghtfornia wrote: »
    I don't watch sport and have no interest in live TV nor do any of my household.
    If people want to watch these programs they should be made pay to watch them through a subscription service such as Sky or Virgin the people who don't want to watch should not have to pay. The License fee is just an out dated stealth tax.

    I couldn't disagree with you more. Taxes are there to provide benefits for all of society, not just you/your household.

    I pay some of my income towards providing welfare payments to children (children's allowance) and unemployed adults (dole)? I don't personally benefit from either but I can see the societal benefits.

    That aside, I would be very surprised if none of your family have ever used any of the services that are funded by the licence fee...


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    #46
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    Quaderno wrote: »
    Actually you can easily and legally avoid paying the tax by getting rid of your tv if you have no interest in it anyway. It's a lot more difficult in other countries.

    I would in the morning but my kids use it for the Xbox and Netflix it serves no other purpose


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    #47
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    KaneToad wrote: »
    I couldn't disagree with you more. Taxes are there to provide benefits for all of society, not just you/your household.

    I pay some of my income towards providing welfare payments to children (children's allowance) and unemployed adults (dole)? I don't personally benefit from either but I can see the societal benefits.

    That aside, I would be very surprised if none of your family have ever used any of the services that are funded by the licence fee...

    Yes they did the Late Late Christmas show in December which they got board with after an hour but I hardly think this is worth €160.


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    #48
    bloopy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭bloopy


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I agree with the OP 100%

    I think RTE's coverage is way OTT and over the last few months I've never watched so little RTE News for the sake of my own mental health.

    But I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about my elderly mum who seems to be somewhat addicted to following all this day by day and I think that is due in no small part to RTE's hysterical reporting.

    Their ads might as well be George Lee having a w*** to the latest Covid numbers just before he goes on air.
    They should just be honest about it seeing as they are all about truth and reality these days.


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    #49
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    Biased nonsense. Their economy and job growth was flying befoe the pandemic. They had many years. You are claiming that Trump admin has not done one positive thing at all, in 4 years?

    RTE are supposed to be neutral not broadcasting PR and propaganda for the Democrat Party.

    Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig


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    #50
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,189 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

    See? This is what happens when media companies abandon balance, good man sir, just in time!!!


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    #51
    Open the Pubs
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    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

    ^^^
    This is a brain on twitter and RTE news 24/7

    Drumpf? Concentration camps? What are you 12 years old?


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    #52
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Selective reporting is fake news. And RTÉ are very guilty for it.

    When Michael Martin went to Brussels for the European Bail Out, all they could carry was Martin saying it was a great deal for Ireland and other positive stories. They alluded to being net contributors and spun it as positive.

    They failed to omit that we were out of pocket by 16bn.

    I think there are still a large part of the population that still think we are getting a bailout from Europe when this is all over. We were absolutely shafted and media don't want to highlight it in case it stokes any Anti-EU sentiment.


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    #53
    suicide_circus
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    The truth is whatever you can make people believe.


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    #54
    Open the Pubs
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    Just seen that Ronan Glynns wife is an RTE journalist.

    George Carlin "It's a big club and you ain't in it!"


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    #55
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    Just seen that Ronan Glynns wife is an RTE journalist.

    George Carlin "It's a big club and you ain't in it!"

    You could not make this stuff up


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    #56
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    RTE lost all credibility for me when the FG/Lab government were enshrining the promissory note as sovereign debt, RTE played a film called 'Dinner for Schmucks' vrs TV3 did a programme with Vincent Brown explaining what was happening.
    Years ago I know but they are a mouthpiece nothing more nothing less.


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    #57
    Plumbthedepths
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    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

    lol.


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    #58
    Atlantic Dawn
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    M


    This time when Biden loses they will have even more egg on their face than when President Hillary lost.


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    #59
    TomTomTim
    Registered Users Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    This time when Biden loses they will have even more egg on their face than when President Hillary lost.

    This reminds me of the smug ****s at Paddy Powers paying out early on a Clinton win. At least PP probably learned their lesson, RTE never seem to learn.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #60
    zoobizoo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,714 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    I feel it is also affecting my parents. They have on TV/Radio most of the day. I would agree that RTE news coverage is pretty toxic and I feel could damage the mental health of viewers.

    You appear to base your assertions on the way you feel rather than facts.

    I listen to the news on RTE every day and it hasn't damaged my mental health.

    Are your parents feeble minded? Do they not have the capacity to think for themselves?

    And why do you presume it would damage others?


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    #61
    Fr Tod Umptious
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    KaneToad wrote: »
    I couldn't disagree with you more. Taxes are there to provide benefits for all of society, not just you/your household.

    I pay some of my income towards providing welfare payments to children (children's allowance) and unemployed adults (dole)? I don't personally benefit from either but I can see the societal benefits.

    That aside, I would be very surprised if none of your family have ever used any of the services that are funded by the licence fee...

    It's almost a competitive sport around here where people try to out do each other with their claims about how long they have gone without a single RTE service.

    "Well I have never listened to a single minute of radio since I got (insert steaming/podcast service here)"

    "Oh I get all my news from BBC, ITV, SKY..."

    "Oh I only watch the Irish soccer games/GAA games on SKY"

    I'm guessing people consume a lot more RTE than they are willing to admit.

    I'd imagine that during the COVID-19 crisis a lot of people who claim otherwise got their news from RTE.
    And why wouldn't they, it's the main new broadcast outlet in the state.
    It's nothing to be ashamed about saying you watch or listen to RTE


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