RTE - Truth Matters campaign

Open the Pubs

New campaign launched from RTE, seems to be glorifying itself and suggesting they are the only source of true news in Ireland. I did laugh at the video.

I personally believe their constant fear and misery porn, and daily doses of doom has done untold damage to the psyche and mental health of the nation. Even this evening it is the same, they almost seem to get a thrill of terrifying and scaring people. They would love another full lockdown. What do you think of their campaign?

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1306487677764751361

Silentcorner

Until of course it involved Child sex abuse scandals and Political Corruption...I mean, they can't be expected to tell the truth about those kinds of things....

If you are still watching RTE you deserve to be misinformed.

Atlantic Dawn

Their coverage of what is going on in US politics is certainly not fair and balanced.

Open the Pubs

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Their coverage of what is going on in US politics is certainly not fair and balanced.

I think it's fair to say it's heavily biased towards the Democrat Party, particularly the new Washington correspondent. I don't think there has been a good or positive word about President Trump on RTE in 5 years.

Fr Tod Umptious

People are moving away from traditional media for their news.

It's pretty obvious that an outlet like RTE would promte themselves as being a more reliable source than some online sources.

That's not to say that they don't have their own biases, overall their coverage is balanced.

Your problem OP seems to be with what you consider doom and gloom being reported rather than the varasity of the reports themselves.

Silentcorner

What was the name of that priest in Galway a few years ago...who RTE accused of getting a women pregnant whilst working in Africa...turned out to be complete rubbish...of course we the licence payers had to pick up the legal bill and compensation that time....truth matters indeed.

Open the Pubs

Silentcorner wrote: »

What was the name of that priest in Galway a few years ago...who RTE accused of getting a women pregnant whilst working in Africa...turned out to be complete rubbish...of course we the licence payers had to pick up the legal bill and compensation that time....truth matters indeed.

This one?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-archbishop-sues-rte-over-mission-to-prey-programme-31327714.html

Silentcorner

Open the Pubs wrote: »

This one?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-archbishop-sues-rte-over-mission-to-prey-programme-31327714.html

That's the one, the details were a bit fuzzy....Primetime Investigates was taken off the air as a result...they did one on Limerick at the time, filming a group of kids armed with a shotgun...complete fabrication also.

Open the Pubs

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

People are moving away from traditional media for their news.

It's pretty obvious that an outlet like RTE would promte themselves as being a more reliable source than some online sources.

That's not to say that they don't have their own biases, overall their coverage is balanced.

Your problem OP seems to be with what you consider doom and gloom being reported rather than the varasity of the reports themselves.

Every media source is biased in some way but as a public broadcaster funded almost entirely by our taxes, RTE should be held to a higher standard than private outlets. I personally don't think it is balanced in any way shape or form. It is heavily skewed towards their employees own personal views, mixed in with Government spin. They take issues they like, such as Climate Change and ram it down our throats. Greta Thunberg must be due appearance money she's been on that much.

At the moment they are purveyors of doom, hyping up cases and cheering another lockdown while jobs and entire industries are whipped out. But that won't bother them on their permanent pensionable 150k jobs, that we pay for and most of them only got because their cousin works there. :rolleyes:

Open the Pubs

Silentcorner wrote: »

That's the one, the details were a bit fuzzy....Primetime Investigates was taken off the air as a result...they did one on Limerick at the time, filming a group of kids armed with a shotgun...complete fabrication also.

Here is another one that went under the radar where they defamed a Nigerian taxi driver and had to make a settlement out of court (with our money).

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30985207.html

And yet this organisation is the arbiter of truth in Ireland, they tell us.

DangerScouse

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I think it's fair to say it's heavily biased towards the Democrat Party, particularly the new Washington correspondent. I don't think there has been a good or positive word about President Trump on RTE in 5 years.

True but who cares. It will make it all the funnier when Trump gets reelected.

Silentcorner

It's almost like a playlist these days, legacy media outlets drowned in group think.

The world is going to end unless we act dramatically right now.
White men are oppressors.
Trump is a fascist.
There is 92 genders.
Men and women are equal but women are actually superior.

Movies are gone the same way

francois

Can we merge this with the other rte bashing thread?

olestoepoke

The RTE propaganda train.

Rodney Bathgate

RTE and Truth. Strange bedfellows.

AllForIt

I agree with the OP 100%

I think RTE's coverage is way OTT and over the last few months I've never watched so little RTE News for the sake of my own mental health.

But I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about my elderly mum who seems to be somewhat addicted to following all this day by day and I think that is due in no small part to RTE's hysterical reporting.

Open the Pubs

AllForIt wrote: »

I agree with the OP 100%

I think RTE's coverage is way OTT and over the last few months I've never watched so little RTE News for the sake of my own mental health.

But I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about my elderly mum who seems to be somewhat addicted to following all this day by day and I think that is due in no small part to RTE's hysterical reporting.

I feel it is also affecting my parents. They have on TV/Radio most of the day. I would agree that RTE news coverage is pretty toxic and I feel could damage the mental health of viewers.

Atlantic Dawn

Example of US coverage, how did this possibly make the news? Only a complete bloody idiot would think it was real...

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1165591/

Silentcorner

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Example of US coverage, how did this possibly make the news? Only a complete bloody idiot would think it was real...

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1165591/

You'd imagine they would have validated the accuracy of the polling companies at least, knowing how many of them were wrong last time out...or pointed out that National Polls are a waste of time at this point in the game....

The problem as I see it with media, normally the people in society who inform themselves by watching the like's of RTE, reading The Times etc etc are typically articulate and intelligent people and very often successful...but most of them don't realise the danger of repeatedly consuming compromised media content like the link provided, it's much easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.

Oh, and keep the elderly away from all RTE programming if you want them to enjoy their later years like they deserve to...it is shameful what RTE are doing!!!

biko

The problem with state funded media is that it tends to not bite the hand that feeds it.

Kivaro

Silentcorner wrote: »

Oh, and keep the elderly away from all RTE programming if you want them to enjoy their later years like they deserve to...it is shameful what RTE are doing!!!

It is indeed shameful by RTE, but they know exactly what they are doing by putting the fear of God into everyone who watches or listens to their biased and partial reporting.

So RTE is telling us that 9 out of 10 people in Ireland use RTE as their main source for Covid information. Who did they poll; highly paid RTE staff members? They are blasting the airwaves with their "Trust matters" advertisements, but one would need to be very gullible to trust RTE as their primary source of news on any matter.

Words like "toxic" used in the previous posts is a good way to describe them, and you can also include the word "divisive", as their sole purpose these days seems to divide and not unite the country. The most adequate response to their Truth Matters campaign is the tweet that immediately follows their announcement on their twitter page:
https://twitter.com/GrahamOhare/status/1306488557624651776

Edgware

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I feel it is also affecting my parents. They have on TV/Radio most of the day. I would agree that RTE news coverage is pretty toxic and I feel could damage the mental health of viewers.

After a few years of Werthers Originals, Irelands Own and listening to wee Daniel they're on the road to ga ga land anyway

screamer

RTE present the luvvies view of everything. I don’t see the world that way, and I read as much news from other countries and sources as I can.

TomTomTim

Didn't RTE do a piece about fake news in America with a CNN journalist? Of all the outlets, they picked one of the worst in the US, that deals in more opinion than fact. Most American outlets love to deal in opinion though, as it's a great way to push their own subjective views, but CNN takes the biscuit. Regardless of what anyone thinks, opinions aren't journalism; you could even argue that opinions are an enemy of good journalism.

Silentcorner

TomTomTim wrote: »

Didn't RTE do a piece about fake news in America with a CNN journalist? Of all the outlets, they picked one of the worst in the US, that deals in more opinion than fact. Most American outlets love to deal in opinion though, as it's a great way to push their own subjective views, but CNN takes the biscuit. Regardless of what anyone thinks, opinions aren't journalism; you could even argue that opinions are an enemy of good journalism.

It's really simple, there no longer are any standards in media...when journalists abandon balance, they become activists, when media companies abandon balance they become outlets of propaganda...RTE was always an arm of the state but they have become something much more nefarious.

The entire media industry has abandoned balance, they have done this collectively over the last number of years in particular....

WE can see the effect of pumping fear into people in our lives today...never forget how far standards in media companies have plummeted.

AllForIt

screamer wrote: »

RTE present the luvvies view of everything. I don’t see the world that way, and I read as much news from other countries and sources as I can.

That's a great way of putting it. Spot on.

KaneToad

I don't agree with much of the sentiment in this thread. I do think RTE is the closest thing to impartial media that we have in this country...which isn't saying much.

If you look at the media picture in the US you can see what happens when you have a weak/non existent public broadcaster. Opinions become news. Viewers pick the side they prefer and follow their man/woman blindly.

RTE has plenty of room for improvement but we should be pushing it to reform in some areas rather that looking to get rid of it and rely on DO'B for our news.

RTE has some good, factual, journalists. Off the top of my head...

Tony Connelly
Tommy Gorman
Sinead Hussey
Paul Cunningham
David McCullagh
Katie Hannon

RTE downfall is that for some issues they can only ever present one side of the story. Some stories that never get an airing:

Negative traveller stories
Racial tension stories in urban areas
Positive Catholic church stories (but plenty of positive Islam stories)
Negative stories about the President
Negative stories about illegal industrial action

rightmove

I hope rte show a "few good men" again because they sure as hell cant handle the truth.

Infini

KaneToad wrote: »

I don't agree with much of the sentiment in this thread. I do think RTE is the closest thing to impartial media that we have in this country...which isn't saying much.

If you look at the media picture in the US you can see what happens when you have a weak/non existent public broadcaster. Opinions become news. Viewers pick the side they prefer and follow their man/woman blindly.

RTE has plenty of room for improvement but we should be pushing it to reform in some areas rather that looking to get rid of it and rely on DO'B for our news.

RTE has some good, factual, journalists. Off the top of my head...

Tony Connelly
Tommy Gorman
Sinead Hussey
Paul Cunningham
David McCullagh
Katie Hannon

RTE downfall is that for some issues they can only ever present one side of the story. Some stories that never get an airing:

Negative traveller stories
Racial tension stories in urban areas
Positive Catholic church stories (but plenty of positive Islam stories)
Negative stories about the President
Negative stories about illegal industrial action

For all it's criticism's though RTE is certainly not the worst, they're certainly not perfect but at least there's a good degree of factual checking most of the time even if they do go somewhat over the top now and again.

The biggest problem in this day and age is the sheer amount of bull**** being peddled on the likes of social media, facebook etc that is either widely distortionate, missing key information or is utter lies and conspiracies being peddled as though its the absolute truth even when utterly debunked. As bad as RTE can be they're tame in comparison to the sheer level of idiotic bull**** on those platforms.

tallaghtfornia

I stopped watching this rubbish years ago but I still have to pay the license fee.
I don't even have any RTE apps on my phone.

My uncle worked there in the 60s/70/80s as a cleaner and only got in as his cousin was one of the 'big wigs' there always remember my Dad telling me he was 'very lucky to get in'.

Edgware

screamer wrote: »

RTE present the luvvies view of everything. I don’t see the world that way, and I read as much news from other countries and sources as I can.

Miriam " oh you're wonderful" comes to mind immediately

KaneToad

tallaghtfornia wrote: »

I stopped watching this rubbish years ago but I still have to pay the license fee.
I don't even have any RTE apps on my phone.
'.

Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

KaneToad

Edgware wrote: »

Miriam " oh you're wonderful" comes to mind immediately

Her interview with Margaret Cash epitomises this.

tallaghtfornia

KaneToad wrote: »

Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

I don't watch sport and have no interest in live TV nor do any of my household.
If people want to watch these programs they should be made pay to watch them through a subscription service such as Sky or Virgin the people who don't want to watch should not have to pay. The License fee is just an out dated stealth tax.

Elmer Blooker

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

RTE and Truth. Strange bedfellows.

RTE = TRUTH.
The official propaganda mouthpiece of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was 'Pravda' which means truth!
Its been tried before RTE!

Open the Pubs

KaneToad wrote: »

Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

They made a big deal about reshowing Love Hate in June, one of the only decent shows they ever made, and then switched it a few weeks in from Friday nights to Monday.

They then abruptly stopped showing it after Season 2 with no explanation, with 3 seasons still left. They can't even put on repeats without utter incompetence.

CiarraiManc

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I think it's fair to say it's heavily biased towards the Democrat Party, particularly the new Washington correspondent. I don't think there has been a good or positive word about President Trump on RTE in 5 years.

Probably because there's nothing positive to say

Cheerful Spring2

Open the Pubs wrote: »

They made a big deal about reshowing Love Hate in June, one of the only decent shows they ever made, and then switched it a few weeks in from Friday nights to Monday.

They then abruptly stopped showing it after Season 2 with no explanation, with 3 seasons still left. They can't even put on repeats without utter incompetence.

:eek TV debate!! Write and complain.

Open the Pubs

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Probably because there's nothing positive to say

Biased nonsense. Their economy and job growth was flying befoe the pandemic. They had many years. You are claiming that Trump admin has not done one positive thing at all, in 4 years?

RTE are supposed to be neutral not broadcasting PR and propaganda for the Democrat Party.

Open the Pubs

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

:eek TV debate!! Write and complain.

What?

KevRossi

I still get the news in the morning, listen to 'What it says in the papers' and turn it off then. Listened to Sean O'Rourke regularly enough, thought Sarah McInerney was a good replacement, but they did their usual messing around and put Claire Byrne in on a long term contract. She's a poor replacement.

I stopped listening to most of their news in 2016. Their constant pro-Clinton and anti-Trump news was beginning to sicken me (I don't like Clinton, but would prefer her to Trump). It was never ending; Morning Ireland's biased slants, Joe Duffy and Ray D'Arcy spouting their own personal opinions and every other broadcaster inable to hold their contempt for Trump.

We had our own General Election in February 2016, it was a kind of snap election, had a 3 week run in. But on at least 3 times during that election, they lead with anti-Trump stories when he was seeking the nomination to run for the Republicans, a full 7 bloody months out from the election, whilst we were 7-10 days away from our own.

The shock in their voices on the morning he was elected said everything you need to know about them. I also have no idea how Miriam O'Callaghan was left in a current affairs role after her biased treatment of Martin McGuinness during the 2011 election.

whisky_galore

KaneToad wrote: »

Lots of people have this opinion but then forget about the soccer match they watched, or the GAA semi final, or the episodes of Love Hate, or listening to that Pogues gig on 2fm, or the headlines on the news featuring a crime in their locality, or the episode of Ordinary People, or the coverage of Irish men/women at Olympics etc etc...

RTE produce a wide range of output - much of which isn't to my tastes but I think the licence fee isn't extortionate for what is provided. Particularly when you look at what a Sky sub costs...

I don't watch any of these things.

Quaderno

tallaghtfornia wrote: »

I don't watch sport and have no interest in live TV nor do any of my household. (...) The License fee is just an out dated stealth tax.

Actually you can easily and legally avoid paying the tax by getting rid of your tv if you have no interest in it anyway. It's a lot more difficult in other countries.

Mullaghteelin

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Biased nonsense. Their economy and job growth was flying befoe the pandemic. They had many years. You are claiming that Trump admin has not done one positive thing at all, in 4 years?

RTE are supposed to be neutral not broadcasting PR and propaganda for the Democrat Party.

Their cherry picking of US news is the worst. They'll cover some obscure story that even their hero's in CNN didn't bother with, while totally ignoring countless other stories. Negative news about the Democrats, and ESPECIALLY, the Clintons, is totally off limits.

KaneToad

tallaghtfornia wrote: »

I don't watch sport and have no interest in live TV nor do any of my household.
If people want to watch these programs they should be made pay to watch them through a subscription service such as Sky or Virgin the people who don't want to watch should not have to pay. The License fee is just an out dated stealth tax.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Taxes are there to provide benefits for all of society, not just you/your household.

I pay some of my income towards providing welfare payments to children (children's allowance) and unemployed adults (dole)? I don't personally benefit from either but I can see the societal benefits.

That aside, I would be very surprised if none of your family have ever used any of the services that are funded by the licence fee...

tallaghtfornia

Quaderno wrote: »

Actually you can easily and legally avoid paying the tax by getting rid of your tv if you have no interest in it anyway. It's a lot more difficult in other countries.

I would in the morning but my kids use it for the Xbox and Netflix it serves no other purpose

tallaghtfornia

KaneToad wrote: »

I couldn't disagree with you more. Taxes are there to provide benefits for all of society, not just you/your household.

I pay some of my income towards providing welfare payments to children (children's allowance) and unemployed adults (dole)? I don't personally benefit from either but I can see the societal benefits.

That aside, I would be very surprised if none of your family have ever used any of the services that are funded by the licence fee...

Yes they did the Late Late Christmas show in December which they got board with after an hour but I hardly think this is worth €160.

bloopy

AllForIt wrote: »

I agree with the OP 100%

I think RTE's coverage is way OTT and over the last few months I've never watched so little RTE News for the sake of my own mental health.

But I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about my elderly mum who seems to be somewhat addicted to following all this day by day and I think that is due in no small part to RTE's hysterical reporting.

Their ads might as well be George Lee having a w*** to the latest Covid numbers just before he goes on air.
They should just be honest about it seeing as they are all about truth and reality these days.

CiarraiManc

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Biased nonsense. Their economy and job growth was flying befoe the pandemic. They had many years. You are claiming that Trump admin has not done one positive thing at all, in 4 years?

RTE are supposed to be neutral not broadcasting PR and propaganda for the Democrat Party.

Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

Silentcorner

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

See? This is what happens when media companies abandon balance, good man sir, just in time!!!

Open the Pubs

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

^^^
This is a brain on twitter and RTE news 24/7

Drumpf? Concentration camps? What are you 12 years old?