RTE - Truth Matters campaign

Richard Hillman · 18-09-2020 3:26pm

Selective reporting is fake news. And RTÉ are very guilty for it.

When Michael Martin went to Brussels for the European Bail Out, all they could carry was Martin saying it was a great deal for Ireland and other positive stories. They alluded to being net contributors and spun it as positive.

They failed to omit that we were out of pocket by 16bn.

I think there are still a large part of the population that still think we are getting a bailout from Europe when this is all over. We were absolutely shafted and media don't want to highlight it in case it stokes any Anti-EU sentiment.

suicide_circus · 18-09-2020 3:37pm

The truth is whatever you can make people believe.

Open the Pubs · 18-09-2020 4:12pm

Just seen that Ronan Glynns wife is an RTE journalist.

George Carlin "It's a big club and you ain't in it!"

tallaghtfornia · 18-09-2020 4:15pm

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Just seen that Ronan Glynns wife is an RTE journalist.

George Carlin "It's a big club and you ain't in it!"

You could not make this stuff up

Plumbthedepths · 18-09-2020 4:26pm

RTE lost all credibility for me when the FG/Lab government were enshrining the promissory note as sovereign debt, RTE played a film called 'Dinner for Schmucks' vrs TV3 did a programme with Vincent Brown explaining what was happening.
Years ago I know but they are a mouthpiece nothing more nothing less.

Plumbthedepths · 18-09-2020 4:27pm

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Drumpf has overseen the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans, the decay of democracy and a gross violation of human rights at the border with the concentration camps. He's an evil disgusting pig

lol.

Atlantic Dawn · 18-09-2020 4:27pm

This time when Biden loses they will have even more egg on their face than when President Hillary lost.

TomTomTim · 18-09-2020 4:33pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

This time when Biden loses they will have even more egg on their face than when President Hillary lost.

This reminds me of the smug ****s at Paddy Powers paying out early on a Clinton win. At least PP probably learned their lesson, RTE never seem to learn.

zoobizoo · 18-09-2020 4:49pm

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I feel it is also affecting my parents. They have on TV/Radio most of the day. I would agree that RTE news coverage is pretty toxic and I feel could damage the mental health of viewers.

You appear to base your assertions on the way you feel rather than facts.

I listen to the news on RTE every day and it hasn't damaged my mental health.

Are your parents feeble minded? Do they not have the capacity to think for themselves?

And why do you presume it would damage others?

Fr Tod Umptious · 19-09-2020 11:39am

KaneToad wrote: »

I couldn't disagree with you more. Taxes are there to provide benefits for all of society, not just you/your household.

I pay some of my income towards providing welfare payments to children (children's allowance) and unemployed adults (dole)? I don't personally benefit from either but I can see the societal benefits.

That aside, I would be very surprised if none of your family have ever used any of the services that are funded by the licence fee...

It's almost a competitive sport around here where people try to out do each other with their claims about how long they have gone without a single RTE service.

"Well I have never listened to a single minute of radio since I got (insert steaming/podcast service here)"

"Oh I get all my news from BBC, ITV, SKY..."

"Oh I only watch the Irish soccer games/GAA games on SKY"

I'm guessing people consume a lot more RTE than they are willing to admit.

I'd imagine that during the COVID-19 crisis a lot of people who claim otherwise got their news from RTE.
And why wouldn't they, it's the main new broadcast outlet in the state.
It's nothing to be ashamed about saying you watch or listen to RTE

briany · 19-09-2020 11:55am

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

People are moving away from traditional media for their news.

"When people stop believing in God, it's not that they believe in nothing, it's that they believe in everything." - G.K. Chesterton

I could apply this quote to traditional media as well. When people stop watching TV for their news, or reading the paper, it's not that they are now free to think for themselves, but they will now subscribe to any news source that plays to their biases and entertains them, and the more the source does this, the less the person is inclined to ask basic questions as to its veracity. Take this to its extreme conclusion and the implications are very worrying - everyone living in their own little separate realities with diametrically opposed views of the world. That does not promote a sense of fraternity among people living in close quarters, and therefore makes it hard to envision how you keep a stable society together.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to read a very interesting Facebook article by an American gentleman with a very striking chinbeard. Something about how Newgrange was built by aliens. You'd never get this sort of journalism on RTE.

ILoveYourVibes · 19-09-2020 12:35pm

They must have wind that the govt wants to get rid of the license fee.

4068ac1elhodqr · 19-09-2020 12:50pm

In a similar style perhaps, the thejournal.ie now has a big aul factcheck thing on the top of it's website.

That's fine, if you only want to factcheck everything, and not just the things that might perhaps suit a more liberal viewpoint.
The comments (real world) section, can, do and very often tell a different story to the narratives pushed.
Top story today (and yesterday, and day before perhaps) is 'the Infodemic'.

James Brown · 19-09-2020 2:14pm

Silentcorner wrote: »

It's almost like a playlist these days, legacy media outlets drowned in group think.

The world is going to end unless we act dramatically right now.
White men are oppressors.
Trump is a fascist.
There is 92 genders.
Men and women are equal but women are actually superior.

Movies are gone the same way

Thats how equality must feel when you're use to being top dog.
Legacy media? The right got its wish, with the exception of any state media, the wealthy dictate the news. Whats the problem?

Silentcorner · 19-09-2020 2:16pm

Bowie wrote: »

Thats how equality must feel when you're use to being top dog.
Legacy media? The right got its wish, with the exception of any state media, the wealthy dictate the news. Whats the problem?

Sorry, what kind of word salad is that?

BloodBath · 19-09-2020 2:22pm

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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It's almost a competitive sport around here where people try to out do each other with their claims about how long they have gone without a single RTE service.

"Well I have never listened to a single minute of radio since I got (insert steaming/podcast service here)"

"Oh I get all my news from BBC, ITV, SKY..."

"Oh I only watch the Irish soccer games/GAA games on SKY"

I'm guessing people consume a lot more RTE than they are willing to admit.

I'd imagine that during the COVID-19 crisis a lot of people who claim otherwise got their news from RTE.
And why wouldn't they, it's the main new broadcast outlet in the state.
It's nothing to be ashamed about saying you watch or listen to RTE

TV is a dying platform, gone the way of the radio. Yeah sure there's people who still listen to both but it's a dwindling audience that get's smaller ever year.

Why should a dying platform with a smaller and smaller audience be subsidized by the public? Poor aul Ryan and co would be out on their arse if people had the choice. Many are choosing not to pay it at all for this reason and rightfully so.

If you enjoy it then pay a subscription for it and leave those who don't free to spend their money on platforms that they enjoy.

Infini · 19-09-2020 3:30pm

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

RTE = TRUTH.
The official propaganda mouthpiece of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union was 'Pravda' which means truth!
Its been tried before RTE!

And yet some would be outraged at some random edited clip of "GARDA BRUTALITY" and "GEMTRAILS" and believe it hook line and sinker.
Cognative dissonace is stronk these days.... -.-

Montage of Feck · 19-09-2020 3:42pm

I would definitely believe RTE ahead if the "new" media but their coverage is obviously biased when it comes to a host of subjects.

Nabber · 19-09-2020 3:56pm

Biased media reporting from RTE.

It's a shame that youtubers tend to be more credible than our own state broadcaster. At least on Youtube people don't pretend to be unbiased.
Before you even watch you know what the agenda is going to be.
With RTE they pretend they are unbiased, but fail the public every day.

They report conservative group numbers at protests down and inflate left numbers.
The anti mask protests, the numbers of people at the protest according to RTE 500. Click on youtube video there are 1000s. I don't support the anti maskers, but I sure as hell do want accurate reports on how many supported, what they discussed and their demands.

Fake news also encompasses biased news. RTE are more like a regional branch of CNN. Shame we can't watch the truth unfold in the USA through our licence funded over inflated wage laden broadcaster.

Eric Cartman · 20-09-2020 12:30pm

RTE is even worse than fox news or cnn for bias and having an agenda, back in the day they used to challenge convention (ala gay byrne talking about condoms etc...)

Nowadays its all apologism pretending that the travellers are angels , the migrants are all doctors and that leo can do no wrong.

zoobizoo · 20-09-2020 4:03pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

RTE is even worse than fox news or cnn for bias and having an agenda, back in the day they used to challenge convention (ala gay byrne talking about condoms etc...)

Nowadays its all apologism pretending that the travellers are angels , the migrants are all doctors and that leo can do no wrong.

Nonsense

hotmail.com · 20-09-2020 4:06pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

RTE is even worse than fox news or cnn for bias and having an agenda, back in the day they used to challenge convention (ala gay byrne talking about condoms etc...)

Nowadays its all apologism pretending that the travellers are angels , the migrants are all doctors and that leo can do no wrong.

Gay Byrne was no saint, he was very much pro establishment.

Eric Cartman · 20-09-2020 4:07pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Gay Byrne was no saint, he was very much pro establishment.

He was but atleast he challenged some issues, now RTE just does whatever the establishment want verbatim,

hotmail.com · 20-09-2020 4:08pm

Every morning, RTE has about 4 or 5 American stories on their website.

None of them relevant to Ireland.

The promotion of Trump stories on their website and on all their programmes has led to an increase in his popularity in Ireland.

Jimmy Twotimes · 20-09-2020 4:11pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Every morning, RTE has about 4 or 5 American stories on their website.

None of them relevant to Ireland.

The promotion of Trump stories on their website and on all their programmes has led to an increase in his popularity in Ireland.

In fairness they're just giving their boomer audience what it wants

Beechwoodspark · 20-09-2020 4:18pm

G Byrne was far from some liberal woke before his time broadcaster

Have a look at the Annie Murphy clip for example - he is condescending and downright rude to her and almost suggests she was a slut who let bishop Eamon Casey into sin

He made a snide remark about if her son is half the man his father was (ie bishop Casey) he will be wonderful. Something to that effect

Also, he regularly had the likes of father cleary on pompously giving lectures to us all.

hotmail.com · 20-09-2020 4:23pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

G Byrne was far from some liberal woke before his time broadcaster

Have a look at the Annie Murphy clip for example - he is condescending and downright rude to her and almost suggests she was a slut who let bishop Eamon Casey into sin

He made a snide remark about if her son is half the man his father was (ie bishop Casey) he will be wonderful. Something to that effect

Also, he regularly had the likes of father cleary on pompously giving lectures to us all.

It's been argued that The Late Late Show actually slowed progress down and the social and cultural changes happened elsewhere from the 60s to the 80s.

Silentcorner · 20-09-2020 4:31pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's been argued that The Late Late Show actually slowed progress down and the social and cultural changes happened elsewhere from the 60s to the 80s.

Media and politicians have always been behind the curve...the gap has gotten wider in recent times as flawed group think has pushed the media companies in particular (and the politicians who succumb to it) down a perilous road.

The big cultural shift in this country began in the early 70s...RTE didn't catch up until the late 80s if even...all media was the same, we didn't get what you may describe a liberal media until the 90s in my view.

batman75 · 20-09-2020 5:18pm

Is it not reality though that any news channel is going to be subject to individual bias. Ideally it shouldn't but realistically can anyone name me a broadcaster who is open and fair about reporting the news?

Junkyard Tom · 20-09-2020 6:26pm

Nabber wrote: »

It's a shame that youtubers tend to be more credible than our own state broadcaster.

Any recommendations?

ChikiChiki · 20-09-2020 10:16pm

About time ads like this are shown on mainstream TV. However it would be better coming from an independent body or some sort of regulator.

We are at a point in history where there is some seriously dangerous unverified and false material posted online which people seem to be hoovering up.

Personally I would love to see Facebook for example obliterated and confined to the dustbins of history.

Silentcorner · 20-09-2020 10:23pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

About time ads like this are shown on mainstream TV. However it would be better coming from an independent body or some sort of regulator.

We are at a point in history where there is some seriously dangerous unverified and false material posted online which people seem to be hoovering up.

Personally I would love to see Facebook for example obliterated and confined to the dustbins of history.

I vividly remember people discussing unverified rumours of Church Sex Abuse scandals and unverified rumours of Political Corruption way back in the 80s long before the internet let alone Facebook....there will always be unverified rumours...they are not always wrong, a person has to develop the ability to discern what is believable and what is not, a person also needs to understand that just because a media organisation has existed for a long time it is trustworthy.

4068ac1elhodqr · 20-09-2020 10:44pm

Perhaps the biggest TV doc in recent years/decades about the Church Sex Abuse scandals on the Island, came from the (also not perfect) BBC NI (Spotlight Team).

Don't recall RTE doing anything on a similar scale, including follow ups on TV chat and radio shows and text in shows for week(s) following.
Following which lead to an immediate raft of resignations and traditional print media pick up.

Atlantic Dawn · 21-09-2020 1:27am

Another example of them burying the truth, this story broke today around 3pm, they report it at 22:28 at night so as not to cause complete rage.
https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0920/1166398-rave-covid-restrictions/

There also appeared to be a large number of empty nitrous oxide canisters.

Yes it could have been 500,000 cyclists went past last night and some had to inflate their tyres as they got punctures and left the CO2 cannisters behind :rolleyes:

SchrodingersCat · 21-09-2020 7:53am

There was another protest this weekend with the "RTE is the Virus" banners.

Looks like there was 56 of them in this photo.

At least they were socially distancing.

Danno · 21-09-2020 1:39pm

Regarding the new RTE - Truth Matters advert, I notice that when RTE is playing the TV Licence advert that the actors are very diverse, however in the Truth Matters advert the absence of diverse actors is very notable. Bordering on painting a particular race as the only ones capable of holding "far-right" views.

Kivaro · 23-09-2020 11:42am

Danno wrote: »

Regarding the new RTE - Truth Matters advert, I notice that when RTE is playing the TV Licence advert that the actors are very diverse, however in the Truth Matters advert the absence of diverse actors is very notable. Bordering on painting a particular race as the only ones capable of holding "far-right" views.

I don't know if it's just early in the morning, but on RTE Radio one, their advertisements are usually the TV license warning us that inspectors will be knocking on our doors .......... knocking during a worldwide pandemic, threatening us with a €1,000 fine (if we do not continue to pay them huge salaries). The second ad is usually the Truth Matters ad (but not for RTE obviously), and then the 3rd ad is for a multitude of various charities looking for more money off us.
What a great time to be alive listening to RTE.
And then George Lee comes on .......

UpBack1234 · 23-09-2020 11:45am

I'm no fan of RTE but I'd prefer them as a source to DisaffectedWingnut.com tbh

Achebe · 23-09-2020 12:25pm

If you just went off boards, you'd swear Donald Trump was the most popular man in Ireland.

circadian · 23-09-2020 12:29pm

UpBack1234 wrote: »

I'm no fan of RTE but I'd prefer them as a source to DisaffectedWingnut.com tbh

Ssssshhhhhh don't disturb the brigade having their wee circle ****.

Achebe · 23-09-2020 12:32pm

"RTE has too many stories on US news!"

*Half the posts in the thread go on to express strong opinions on American politics*

Kivaro · 23-09-2020 1:34pm

circadian wrote: »

Ssssshhhhhh don't disturb the brigade having their wee circle ****.

I must admit to having a tinge of embarrassment for posters who project their own fantasies when they find themselves lacking the faculty of making a suitable counterpoint.

TomTomTim · 23-09-2020 1:55pm

Achebe wrote: »

"RTE has too many stories on US news!"

*Half the posts in the thread go on to express strong opinions on American politics*

This is actually a stupid take if you stop and think about it. People are forced to argue for or against American centric opinions due to American politics being forced upon us. It's completely inline with criticism of Ireland becoming too Americanized.

zoobizoo · 23-09-2020 2:49pm

TomTomTim wrote: »

This is actually a stupid take if you stop and think about it. People are forced to argue for or against American centric opinions due to American politics being forced upon us. It's completely inline with criticism of Ireland becoming too Americanized.

Americanised.

Achebe · 23-09-2020 3:29pm

TomTomTim wrote: »

This is actually a stupid take if you stop and think about it. People are forced to argue for or against American centric opinions due to American politics being forced upon us. It's completely inline with criticism of Ireland becoming too Americanized.

Forced?

RTE - Truth Matters campaign

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