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RTE - Truth Matters campaign

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  • 17-09-2020 6:25pm
    #1
    Open the Pubs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 396 ✭✭


    New campaign launched from RTE, seems to be glorifying itself and suggesting they are the only source of true news in Ireland. I did laugh at the video.

    I personally believe their constant fear and misery porn, and daily doses of doom has done untold damage to the psyche and mental health of the nation. Even this evening it is the same, they almost seem to get a thrill of terrifying and scaring people. They would love another full lockdown. What do you think of their campaign?

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1306487677764751361



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    #2
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Until of course it involved Child sex abuse scandals and Political Corruption...I mean, they can't be expected to tell the truth about those kinds of things....

    If you are still watching RTE you deserve to be misinformed.


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Their coverage of what is going on in US politics is certainly not fair and balanced.


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    #4
    Open the Pubs
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Their coverage of what is going on in US politics is certainly not fair and balanced.

    I think it's fair to say it's heavily biased towards the Democrat Party, particularly the new Washington correspondent. I don't think there has been a good or positive word about President Trump on RTE in 5 years.


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    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    People are moving away from traditional media for their news.

    It's pretty obvious that an outlet like RTE would promte themselves as being a more reliable source than some online sources.

    That's not to say that they don't have their own biases, overall their coverage is balanced.

    Your problem OP seems to be with what you consider doom and gloom being reported rather than the varasity of the reports themselves.


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    #6
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    What was the name of that priest in Galway a few years ago...who RTE accused of getting a women pregnant whilst working in Africa...turned out to be complete rubbish...of course we the licence payers had to pick up the legal bill and compensation that time....truth matters indeed.


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    #7
    Open the Pubs
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    Silentcorner wrote: »
    What was the name of that priest in Galway a few years ago...who RTE accused of getting a women pregnant whilst working in Africa...turned out to be complete rubbish...of course we the licence payers had to pick up the legal bill and compensation that time....truth matters indeed.

    This one?

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-archbishop-sues-rte-over-mission-to-prey-programme-31327714.html


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    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    This one?

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/former-archbishop-sues-rte-over-mission-to-prey-programme-31327714.html

    That's the one, the details were a bit fuzzy....Primetime Investigates was taken off the air as a result...they did one on Limerick at the time, filming a group of kids armed with a shotgun...complete fabrication also.


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    Open the Pubs
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    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    People are moving away from traditional media for their news.

    It's pretty obvious that an outlet like RTE would promte themselves as being a more reliable source than some online sources.

    That's not to say that they don't have their own biases, overall their coverage is balanced.

    Your problem OP seems to be with what you consider doom and gloom being reported rather than the varasity of the reports themselves.

    Every media source is biased in some way but as a public broadcaster funded almost entirely by our taxes, RTE should be held to a higher standard than private outlets. I personally don't think it is balanced in any way shape or form. It is heavily skewed towards their employees own personal views, mixed in with Government spin. They take issues they like, such as Climate Change and ram it down our throats. Greta Thunberg must be due appearance money she's been on that much.

    At the moment they are purveyors of doom, hyping up cases and cheering another lockdown while jobs and entire industries are whipped out. But that won't bother them on their permanent pensionable 150k jobs, that we pay for and most of them only got because their cousin works there. :rolleyes:


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    Open the Pubs
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    Silentcorner wrote: »
    That's the one, the details were a bit fuzzy....Primetime Investigates was taken off the air as a result...they did one on Limerick at the time, filming a group of kids armed with a shotgun...complete fabrication also.

    Here is another one that went under the radar where they defamed a Nigerian taxi driver and had to make a settlement out of court (with our money).

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30985207.html

    And yet this organisation is the arbiter of truth in Ireland, they tell us.


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    DangerScouse
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    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    I think it's fair to say it's heavily biased towards the Democrat Party, particularly the new Washington correspondent. I don't think there has been a good or positive word about President Trump on RTE in 5 years.

    True but who cares. It will make it all the funnier when Trump gets reelected.


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    #12
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    It's almost like a playlist these days, legacy media outlets drowned in group think.

    The world is going to end unless we act dramatically right now.
    White men are oppressors.
    Trump is a fascist.
    There is 92 genders.
    Men and women are equal but women are actually superior.

    Movies are gone the same way


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    #13
    francois
    Registered Users Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭francois


    Can we merge this with the other rte bashing thread?


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    #14
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    The RTE propaganda train.


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    #15
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    RTE and Truth. Strange bedfellows.


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    #16
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,309 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I agree with the OP 100%

    I think RTE's coverage is way OTT and over the last few months I've never watched so little RTE News for the sake of my own mental health.

    But I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about my elderly mum who seems to be somewhat addicted to following all this day by day and I think that is due in no small part to RTE's hysterical reporting.


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    #17
    Open the Pubs
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    AllForIt wrote: »
    I agree with the OP 100%

    I think RTE's coverage is way OTT and over the last few months I've never watched so little RTE News for the sake of my own mental health.

    But I'm not concerned about myself, I'm concerned about my elderly mum who seems to be somewhat addicted to following all this day by day and I think that is due in no small part to RTE's hysterical reporting.

    I feel it is also affecting my parents. They have on TV/Radio most of the day. I would agree that RTE news coverage is pretty toxic and I feel could damage the mental health of viewers.


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Example of US coverage, how did this possibly make the news? Only a complete bloody idiot would think it was real...

    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1165591/


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    Silentcorner
    Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Example of US coverage, how did this possibly make the news? Only a complete bloody idiot would think it was real...

    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1165591/

    You'd imagine they would have validated the accuracy of the polling companies at least, knowing how many of them were wrong last time out...or pointed out that National Polls are a waste of time at this point in the game....

    The problem as I see it with media, normally the people in society who inform themselves by watching the like's of RTE, reading The Times etc etc are typically articulate and intelligent people and very often successful...but most of them don't realise the danger of repeatedly consuming compromised media content like the link provided, it's much easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.

    Oh, and keep the elderly away from all RTE programming if you want them to enjoy their later years like they deserve to...it is shameful what RTE are doing!!!


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    #20
    biko
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    The problem with state funded media is that it tends to not bite the hand that feeds it.


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    Kivaro
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    Silentcorner wrote: »

    Oh, and keep the elderly away from all RTE programming if you want them to enjoy their later years like they deserve to...it is shameful what RTE are doing!!!
    It is indeed shameful by RTE, but they know exactly what they are doing by putting the fear of God into everyone who watches or listens to their biased and partial reporting.

    So RTE is telling us that 9 out of 10 people in Ireland use RTE as their main source for Covid information. Who did they poll; highly paid RTE staff members? They are blasting the airwaves with their "Trust matters" advertisements, but one would need to be very gullible to trust RTE as their primary source of news on any matter.

    Words like "toxic" used in the previous posts is a good way to describe them, and you can also include the word "divisive", as their sole purpose these days seems to divide and not unite the country. The most adequate response to their Truth Matters campaign is the tweet that immediately follows their announcement on their twitter page:
    https://twitter.com/GrahamOhare/status/1306488557624651776


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    #22
    Edgware
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    Open the Pubs wrote: »
    I feel it is also affecting my parents. They have on TV/Radio most of the day. I would agree that RTE news coverage is pretty toxic and I feel could damage the mental health of viewers.

    After a few years of Werthers Originals, Irelands Own and listening to wee Daniel they're on the road to ga ga land anyway


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    #23
    screamer
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    RTE present the luvvies view of everything. I don’t see the world that way, and I read as much news from other countries and sources as I can.


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    #24
    TomTomTim
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    Didn't RTE do a piece about fake news in America with a CNN journalist? Of all the outlets, they picked one of the worst in the US, that deals in more opinion than fact. Most American outlets love to deal in opinion though, as it's a great way to push their own subjective views, but CNN takes the biscuit. Regardless of what anyone thinks, opinions aren't journalism; you could even argue that opinions are an enemy of good journalism.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #25
    Silentcorner
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    TomTomTim wrote: »
    Didn't RTE do a piece about fake news in America with a CNN journalist? Of all the outlets, they picked one of the worst in the US, that deals in more opinion than fact. Most American outlets love to deal in opinion though, as it's a great way to push their own subjective views, but CNN takes the biscuit. Regardless of what anyone thinks, opinions aren't journalism; you could even argue that opinions are an enemy of good journalism.

    It's really simple, there no longer are any standards in media...when journalists abandon balance, they become activists, when media companies abandon balance they become outlets of propaganda...RTE was always an arm of the state but they have become something much more nefarious.

    The entire media industry has abandoned balance, they have done this collectively over the last number of years in particular....

    WE can see the effect of pumping fear into people in our lives today...never forget how far standards in media companies have plummeted.


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    #26
    AllForIt
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    screamer wrote: »
    RTE present the luvvies view of everything. I don’t see the world that way, and I read as much news from other countries and sources as I can.

    That's a great way of putting it. Spot on.


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    #27
    KaneToad
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    I don't agree with much of the sentiment in this thread. I do think RTE is the closest thing to impartial media that we have in this country...which isn't saying much.

    If you look at the media picture in the US you can see what happens when you have a weak/non existent public broadcaster. Opinions become news. Viewers pick the side they prefer and follow their man/woman blindly.

    RTE has plenty of room for improvement but we should be pushing it to reform in some areas rather that looking to get rid of it and rely on DO'B for our news.

    RTE has some good, factual, journalists. Off the top of my head...

    Tony Connelly
    Tommy Gorman
    Sinead Hussey
    Paul Cunningham
    David McCullagh
    Katie Hannon

    RTE downfall is that for some issues they can only ever present one side of the story. Some stories that never get an airing:

    Negative traveller stories
    Racial tension stories in urban areas
    Positive Catholic church stories (but plenty of positive Islam stories)
    Negative stories about the President
    Negative stories about illegal industrial action


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    #28
    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    I hope rte show a "few good men" again because they sure as hell cant handle the truth.


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    #29
    Infini
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    KaneToad wrote: »
    I don't agree with much of the sentiment in this thread. I do think RTE is the closest thing to impartial media that we have in this country...which isn't saying much.

    If you look at the media picture in the US you can see what happens when you have a weak/non existent public broadcaster. Opinions become news. Viewers pick the side they prefer and follow their man/woman blindly.

    RTE has plenty of room for improvement but we should be pushing it to reform in some areas rather that looking to get rid of it and rely on DO'B for our news.

    RTE has some good, factual, journalists. Off the top of my head...

    Tony Connelly
    Tommy Gorman
    Sinead Hussey
    Paul Cunningham
    David McCullagh
    Katie Hannon

    RTE downfall is that for some issues they can only ever present one side of the story. Some stories that never get an airing:

    Negative traveller stories
    Racial tension stories in urban areas
    Positive Catholic church stories (but plenty of positive Islam stories)
    Negative stories about the President
    Negative stories about illegal industrial action

    For all it's criticism's though RTE is certainly not the worst, they're certainly not perfect but at least there's a good degree of factual checking most of the time even if they do go somewhat over the top now and again.

    The biggest problem in this day and age is the sheer amount of bull**** being peddled on the likes of social media, facebook etc that is either widely distortionate, missing key information or is utter lies and conspiracies being peddled as though its the absolute truth even when utterly debunked. As bad as RTE can be they're tame in comparison to the sheer level of idiotic bull**** on those platforms.


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    #30
    tallaghtfornia
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭tallaghtfornia


    I stopped watching this rubbish years ago but I still have to pay the license fee.
    I don't even have any RTE apps on my phone.

    My uncle worked there in the 60s/70/80s as a cleaner and only got in as his cousin was one of the 'big wigs' there always remember my Dad telling me he was 'very lucky to get in'.


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    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    screamer wrote: »
    RTE present the luvvies view of everything. I don’t see the world that way, and I read as much news from other countries and sources as I can.

    Miriam " oh you're wonderful" comes to mind immediately


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