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11 yr/old drag kid worshiped within LGBTQ community (Mod warning op)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    How can anybody who considers themselves liberal still deny the media is trying to normalize pedophilia with articles like this?


    It's a paedophiles blog. Hardly representative of the media or the left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Slippery Slope

    Screen-Shot-2019-06-18-at-23-43-34.png
    handle it? kids love the kink! leather gear, jock straps, assless chaps, kids just lap that stuff up!


  • Registered Users Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1141855832302379011

    Scenes at a recent pride parade. Look at your own peril. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    whats more natural and progressive than a child getting an eye full of a grown man's phallus on a public street?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    MrFresh wrote: »
    It's a paedophiles blog. Hardly representative of the media or the left.

    Really??

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html

    The NY Times is a major publication and here they are trying to defend it. So Ye the media and Left is trying to normalize it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Really??

    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html

    The NY Times is a major publication and here they are trying to defend it. So Ye the media and Left is trying to normalize it.


    Did you even read the article? It has nothing in common with the blog. It's suggesting people with paedophilic tendencies be treated as mentally ill and treated with different therapies to prevent them committing crimes. What is your issue with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I had a quick glance at this thread earlier and moved on, but I can't get it out of my head now. As a gay person I am so angry and disgusted to see creeps and assholes with no sense of appropriate boundaries treating kids like this and doing so much damage to the pride movement. You are welcome to your kinks and whatever you want to do in the bedroom, but please don't abuse an equal rights parade that should be family friendly by turning it into a captive audience for your exhibitionism, and for God's sake don't put on a demented pseudo-striptease for children.

    It's was creepy when straight people make little girls parade around in a sexualised manner in 'beauty pageants' and it's creepy when you have a half-naked boy dancing (including, I dunno what you call it, that weird thrusting motion...?) in a circle of adults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    One of the men dressed up as a dog has an erection. What is going on!

    https://twitter.com/platypus_xx/status/1142549694180147207?s=19


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mom-disturbed-pedophile-lust-drag-queen-son/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Who would have thought that sexualizing your drag son would result in pedophiles lusting after him.

    I feel Desmond is going to be a horror story told about in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Calhoun wrote: »
    https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mom-disturbed-pedophile-lust-drag-queen-son/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Who would have thought that sexualizing your drag son would result in pedophiles lusting after him.

    I feel Desmond is going to be a horror story told about in the future.

    Drsmond 100% is sadly likely to be groomed or abused, to clarify for the mod warming in the op , neither I nor anybody is saying this is an lgbt community issue, but a community that celebrates the sexualisation of children is definitely inviting the wrong crowd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Calhoun wrote: »
    https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mom-disturbed-pedophile-lust-drag-queen-son/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Who would have thought that sexualizing your drag son would result in pedophiles lusting after him.

    I feel Desmond is going to be a horror story told about in the future.

    Either she's playing innocent or she's really stupid. What did she think was going happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Drsmond 100% is sadly likely to be groomed or abused, to clarify for the mod warming in the op , neither I nor anybody is saying this is an lgbt community issue, but a community that celebrates the sexualisation of children is definitely inviting the wrong crowd.

    I hate to say it, but he probably already is. In some of those interviews and that cam show he did with another drag artist he looked like he was clearly on something.

    Nobody is condemning everybody in the LGBT community. There were enough in the audience to be rightfully disgusted and walked out [I commend the one who stomached it long enough to film it for the authorities], But its clear that gay rights advocacy groups have been corrupted by some very unsavory people.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Calhoun wrote: »
    https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/mom-disturbed-pedophile-lust-drag-queen-son/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Who would have thought that sexualizing your drag son would result in pedophiles lusting after him.

    I feel Desmond is going to be a horror story told about in the future.
    Horror story indeed. The comment section of that article gave me hope, as the vast majority of commenters were expressing the same kind of WTF as most sane people would. As JohnMc1 noted a lot of the WTF is this insanity has come from gay people who witnessed it up close. The child being paraded at night clubs was exposed by the gay patrons at those gigs who were horrified by it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Safeguarding goes out the window if they are part of the LGBTQ fraternity.

    https://twitter.com/jpaulson49/status/1146174016446586880?s=19


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Zillah wrote: »
    I had a quick glance at this thread earlier and moved on, but I can't get it out of my head now. As a gay person I am so angry and disgusted to see creeps and assholes with no sense of appropriate boundaries treating kids like this and doing so much damage to the pride movement. You are welcome to your kinks and whatever you want to do in the bedroom, but please don't abuse an equal rights parade that should be family friendly by turning it into a captive audience for your exhibitionism, and for God's sake don't put on a demented pseudo-striptease for children.

    It's was creepy when straight people make little girls parade around in a sexualised manner in 'beauty pageants' and it's creepy when you have a half-naked boy dancing (including, I dunno what you call it, that weird thrusting motion...?) in a circle of adults.

    Twerking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Canada is gone a bit mad. This is a TV show on CBC. The comments from ordinary Canadians are at least reassuring.

    https://twitter.com/CBCKidsNews/status/1146820535931822090?s=19


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Canada is gone a bit mad. This is a TV show on CBC. The comments from ordinary Canadians are at least reassuring.

    https://twitter.com/CBCKidsNews/status/1146820535931822090?s=19

    The West is truly lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    More grown men with a sexual paraphelia at Pride.

    https://twitter.com/HollyJohnsonfan/status/1147606227637145601?s=19


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    Dante7 wrote: »
    More grown men with a sexual paraphelia at Pride.

    https://twitter.com/HollyJohnsonfan/status/1147606227637145601?s=19

    And remember folks. This is the side of the political aisle that says that Trump is mentally unwell.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 210 ✭✭Ted Johnson


    This just another step in the attempt to normalise pedophillia, isn't it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    This just another step in the attempt to normalise pedophillia, isn't it?
    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    This just another step in the attempt to normalise pedophillia, isn't it?

    Always was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    This just another step in the attempt to normalise pedophillia, isn't it?

    How dare you kink shame those adult babies. It's perfectly fine and normal and in no way sinister at all to get off on dressing and being treated like an infant. If they want to parade their fetish in public and in front of actual children, good on them. Anyone who thinks it's inappropriate is phobic of something or other (kinkphobe? Is that a thing yet? If not, it will be), or worse, a prude. Nothing to see here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    This just another step in the attempt to normalise pedophillia, isn't it?

    How dare you kink shame those adult babies. It's perfectly fine and normal and in no way sinister at all to get off on dressing and being treated like an infant. If they want to parade their fetish in public and in front of actual children, good on them. Anyone who thinks it's inappropriate is phobic of something or other (kinkphobe? Is that a thing yet? If not, it will be), or worse, a prude. Nothing to see here.
    ?????


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ?????

    Sarcasm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Sarcasm

    Yep. Except it's actually likely you'll see people spouting something like that about all manner of inappropriate **** these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu0B-LOBMDy/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

    I don't know what the worst part of that is. The hostage video vibe or the "You're so stunning and brave" morons in the comments section.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭p1akuw47h5r3it




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    DanDan6592 wrote: »
    good article


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Drag Queens dance and strips for kids in the King County Library...

    This is mental.

    https://twitter.com/zyntrax/status/1179967775042867200

    https://twitter.com/zyntrax/status/1180207917087232000


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    ^^^^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    statesaver wrote: »
    ^^^^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I give up, when I was growing up you were supposed to keep children away from strange men with an interest in exposing themselves to kids, now it seems the opposite...


  • Site Banned Posts: 106 ✭✭Enough is Enough!


    I give up, when I was growing up you were supposed to keep children away from strange men with an interest in exposing themselves to kids, now it seems the opposite...

    What, you mean you don't want adult homosexual men 'playing' with your young son?

    Are you a bigot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    I think that event in Kings County Library might have been aimed at "teens and tweens". Not that it makes much difference. Having kids aged 7 years plus forced to be an audience for talentless, kink-obsessed, pudgy, narcissistic men doing womanface instead of groovy talented people worth watching, of whom there are many, makes one wonder what happened to peoples brains. And this new-found passion among pudgy talentless kink-obsessed neurotic men to get out of their usual venues and into libraries with kids -lads, give it up, you are as boringly up yer own arses no matter where ye "perform".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,222 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Sick stuff altogether. Children shouldn’t be exposed to that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Cringetastic.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ah sure **** it. At least I can proudly say that it's ok to be intolerant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Ah sure **** it. At least I can proudly say that it's ok to be intolerant.

    yeah, if not wanting children exposed to that makes me a bigot, ill go get a hat that says bigot so everyone knows. Id even go as far as to say I actually don't want to associate with anyone who's not a bigot if its the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    If it was advertised as "Middle Aged Men in Fishnets Dancing Provocatively in Front of Children Story Time" no parent in their right mind would take their kids to it. But that's exactly what it is. Its so weird how pretty well established rules about what's appropriate for children go out the window when its somehow seen as "progressive"


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    Drag Queens dance and strips for kids in the King County Library...

    This is mental.

    https://twitter.com/zyntrax/status/1179967775042867200

    https://twitter.com/zyntrax/status/1180207917087232000

    I don't see anyone stripping there. You must be seeing things?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    If it was advertised as "Middle Aged Men in Fishnets Dancing Provocatively in Front of Children Story Time" no parent in their right mind would take their kids to it. But that's exactly what it is. Its so weird how pretty well established rules about what's appropriate for children go out the window when its somehow seen as "progressive"


    Safeguarding has gone out the window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    I don't see anyone stripping there. You must be seeing things?

    It's not stripping but it's not right either.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 426 ✭✭MrAbyss


    Diversity and Inclusion, is Hatred and Mental Illness disguised as Compassion and Care.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 106 ✭✭Enough is Enough!


    MrAbyss wrote: »
    Diversity and Inclusion, is Hatred and Mental Illness disguised as Compassion and Care.

    Little boys dressed up as whores and dancing for men in nightclubs...This is Weimar Republic levels of degeneracy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    "Everyone here is so friendly,” Ruby tells AJ before they enter their first stop in Pittsburgh. Katya, playing a queen named Magda, is waiting in the dressing room to put the lie to that statement. “I knew closing those Planned Parenthood clinics would create a problem,” she tells Ruby when introduced to AJ. Meanwhile, Jinkx Monsoon is finishing her tuck as Edie (where have we heard that before?), who “used to be pretty” according to Ruby. They’re a golden comedic duo — “First kid I ever met who’s a top!,” Jinkx says after AJ demands she take her to the bar to get burgers.."

    https://www.vulture.com/2020/01/aj-and-the-queen-drag-race-appearances-rupaul.html

    What I have quoted above came from Vulture.com, which is the entertainment part of a magazine called New York, which seems to be a reasonably well known publication, founded about 50 years ago. Just to give the provenance..

    This is a story that I stumbled on a few days ago, but I have read zilch about it in general media. I find it very weird, but maybe I am mistaken here. It relates to drag kids. Ru Paul has a new Netflix show out called AJ and The Queen. It is about a drag queen called Ruby on a pitstop tour of clubs around America, trying to make money. Ruby has taken under his wing a 10 year old child, whose mother is a drug addicted prostitute. The child is a girl but likes to present as a boy because it brings her less trouble, the story goes.
    In the second episode, which is briefly summarised in the magazine clipping above, a drag queen, not Ruby, but an overweight guy in bra, knickers and netting, is taking AJ for some food, because the kid insists on it - and the drag queen says as they exit stage right "First kid I ever met who is a top!"

    As far as I know a top means the sexual partner who penetrates in gay sex. Maybe it means something else? Perhaps I am mistaken.

    If it means what it generally means, how can Netflix distribute a series which not only has a gender non conforming child in very sexualised scenarios but also outright refers to or uses as a gag what I presume most would consider sex acts with a child, ie paedophilia?

    I have seen the clip but it is on some conservative US website which I know will not be acceptable as media to many. It is very obvious what the drag queen implies. On Netflix....which is a huge media distributor.
    I find this unsettling, surprising and weird. Am I odd to do so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Gynoid wrote: »
    "Everyone here is so friendly,” Ruby tells AJ before they enter their first stop in Pittsburgh. Katya, playing a queen named Magda, is waiting in the dressing room to put the lie to that statement. “I knew closing those Planned Parenthood clinics would create a problem,” she tells Ruby when introduced to AJ. Meanwhile, Jinkx Monsoon is finishing her tuck as Edie (where have we heard that before?), who “used to be pretty” according to Ruby. They’re a golden comedic duo — “First kid I ever met who’s a top!,” Jinkx says after AJ demands she take her to the bar to get burgers.."

    https://www.vulture.com/2020/01/aj-and-the-queen-drag-race-appearances-rupaul.html

    What I have quoted above came from Vulture.com, which is the entertainment part of a magazine called New York, which seems to be a reasonably well known publication, founded about 50 years ago. Just to give the provenance..

    This is a story that I stumbled on a few days ago, but I have read zilch about it in general media. I find it very weird, but maybe I am mistaken here. It relates to drag kids. Ru Paul has a new Netflix show out called AJ and The Queen. It is about a drag queen called Ruby on a pitstop tour of clubs around America, trying to make money. Ruby has taken under his wing a 10 year old child, whose mother is a drug addicted prostitute. The child is a girl but likes to present as a boy because it brings her less trouble, the story goes.
    In the second episode, which is briefly summarised in the magazine clipping above, a drag queen, not Ruby, but an overweight guy in bra, knickers and netting, is taking AJ for some food, because the kid insists on it - and the drag queen says as they exit stage right "First kid I ever met who is a top!"

    As far as I know a top means the sexual partner who penetrates in gay sex. Maybe it means something else? Perhaps I am mistaken.

    If it means what it generally means, how can Netflix distribute a series which not only has a gender non conforming child in very sexualised scenarios but also outright refers to or uses as a gag what I presume most would consider sex acts with a child, ie paedophilia?

    I have seen the clip but it is on some conservative US website which I know will not be acceptable as media to many. It is very obvious what the drag queen implies. On Netflix....which is a huge media distributor.
    I find this unsettling, surprising and weird. Am I odd to do so?

    Saw the trailer for it the other day, absolutely disgusting degeneracy. I saw it and couldnt help but think that is just a soft intro to normalising paedophelia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,408 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    My understanding of the term 'top' would be the same as yours, Gynoid. This is really creepy, sleazy stuff. I used to think that things were getting better for kids who are lgbt but honestly, this has me worried. Why do the same boundaries not apply to these kids? It's making me angry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Saw the trailer for it the other day, absolutely disgusting degeneracy. I saw it and couldnt help but think that is just a soft intro to normalising paedophelia.

    I saw a few tiny clips. The acting is beyond atrocious. Cringe worthy. And yet there it is, on actual Netflix. A huge global media provider. Joking about a 10 year old kid being a top. Incredible.


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