If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)

Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.

Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Ear to the ground

31-10-2019 9:31pm

#1

whelan2

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2014

Posts: 29574

New series starting now

0

Comments

#2 31-10-2019 9:52pm

Hard Knocks

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭

Join Date: May 2017

Posts: 4070

whelan2 wrote: »

New series starting now

Just back
Was it any good? Worth a watch on +1

0
#3 31-10-2019 9:53pm

Zeebsisgone654

Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭

Join Date: August 2018

Posts: 93

Dumbed down farming, utter rubbish

0
#4 31-10-2019 10:00pm

PoorFarmer

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭

Join Date: November 2015

Posts: 590

Darragh telling us how to save hay. Riveting stuff

0
#5 31-10-2019 10:11pm

boggerman1

Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭

Join Date: October 2014

Posts: 1067

Ear to the ground.once a great program,sadly no longer

0
#6 31-10-2019 10:16pm

Water John

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: May 2014

Posts: 21793

Problem for many agri programming incl local radio is, they are tied to sponsors.
ETTG now sponsored by Tesco. The conflict of interest is obvious.

0
Advertisement
#7 31-10-2019 10:24pm

Lime Tree Farm

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭

Join Date: February 2019

Posts: 2823

PoorFarmer wrote: »

Darragh telling us how to save hay. Riveting stuff

Question.

Hay cut with a Rotary mower tedded immediately after cutting.

or

Hay cut with a conditioner mower - tedded the following day.

0
#8 31-10-2019 10:39pm

Hard Knocks

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭

Join Date: May 2017

Posts: 4070

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Question.

Hay cut with a Rotary mower tedded immediately after cutting.

or

Hay cut with a conditioner mower - tedded the following day.

Option 2 if not put in rows

0
#9 31-10-2019 10:53pm

Water John

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: May 2014

Posts: 21793

It would tell you the big diff in rainfall between Dublin and the West. Not a chance of making baled hay every year, down here.

0
#10 31-10-2019 11:26pm

Lime Tree Farm

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭

Join Date: February 2019

Posts: 2823

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Option 2 if not put in rows

Thank you.

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

0
#11 31-10-2019 11:32pm

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thank you.

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

I'd say spread it immediately after cutting if the mower didn't spread it

0
Advertisement
#12 01-11-2019 12:27am

Sheep breeder

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2014

Posts: 2076

Water John wrote: »

It would tell you the big diff in rainfall between Dublin and the West. Not a chance of making baled hay every year, down here.

The Ennis boys are at the hay game since the 70s in the Naul and supplied Purcell for the boats and Dublin zoo, hardy men who work hard.

0
#13 01-11-2019 12:31am

kk.man

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭

Join Date: September 2015

Posts: 3567

Lime Tree Farm wrote: »

Thank you.

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

You should have been able to to make it on day 5 if you got the weather and the field was in hay the previous year.

0
#14 01-11-2019 1:05am

alps

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭

Join Date: November 2011

Posts: 5071

Great farming panel and discussion in radio 1 late debate tonight. Thomas Duffy from macra is an incredible performer.

We've been lacking a capable media rep for a long time.. hopecully hell have time to fill some more slots..

0
#15 01-11-2019 2:11am

lab man

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2011

Posts: 1709

Lime Tree Farm wrote:

So it is not advisable to scatter the row out on the same day it is cut by a conditioner mower (cut approx. 11.30am) . We got caught out by the weather on the 5th day this year, and I wondered if it had been spread out after the mower, could it have been baled a day earlier.

spread there and then

0
#16 01-11-2019 11:27am

Aravo

Registered Users Posts: 909 ✭✭✭

Join Date: October 2017

Posts: 904

If I was unsure of the weather I would bale as haulage. Great stuff to have. And they hold very well. Treated like gold here.

0
#17 01-11-2019 11:33am

Wildly Boaring

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭

Join Date: October 2010

Posts: 3597

Sheep breeder wrote: »

The Ennis boys are at the hay game since the 70s in the Naul and supplied Purcell for the boats and Dublin zoo, hardy men who work hard.

Some boys to bale and shift straw.
Did a couple harvests up around the Ward about 15 years ago. Ennis brothers were some operation back then.

2 or 3 baling big squares. 2 lifting 8 bales at a time. 1 on volvo stacking. Eating through fields.

0
#18 01-11-2019 11:42am

_Brian

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,619 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: April 2014

Posts: 18381

Got a chance to watch it back on the Player online.

You have to wonder who the target audience is for ETTG, anyone actively involved in farming got nothing from that episode at all.

They covered three topics;

Brexit - stupid people believed the lies and now their business is at risk they regret it.

Hay - it’s made from dry grass and you need sunny weather.

Beef Protests - it divided beef farmers and nobody can say if much was achieved, while prices continue to fall

I think the presenters are capable of far more, but probably someone above that wants a “farming for donnybrook” style program.

Honestly it’s hard to see it worth making much effort to watch another episode.

0
#19 01-11-2019 11:55am

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

_Brian wrote: »

Got a chance to watch it back on the Player online.

You have to wonder who the target audience is for ETTG, anyone actively involved in farming got nothing from that episode at all.

They covered three topics;

Brexit - stupid people believed the lies and now their business is at risk they regret it.

Hay - it’s made from dry grass and you need sunny weather.

Beef Protests - it divided beef farmers and nobody can say if much was achieved, while prices continue to fall

I think the presenters are capable of far more, but probably someone above that wants a “farming for donnybrook” style program.

Honestly it’s hard to see it worth making much effort to watch another episode.

They seem to be able to pull the viewers that they wouldn't get if the did technical.
The mii guy made it plain that they'd lose customers before they'd give in to farmers and the customers they put off won't be as sympathetic the next time.
That was putting down a marker for those at the gates, they know the risks now

0
#20 01-11-2019 1:35pm

kk.man

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭

Join Date: September 2015

Posts: 3567

wrangler wrote: »

They seem to be able to pull the viewers that they wouldn't get if the did technical.
The mii guy made it plain that they'd lose customers before they'd give in to farmers and the customers they put off won't be as sympathetic the next time.
That was putting down a marker for those at the gates, they know the risks now

The CEO of Bord Bia was asked recently was any custom lost as result of the protests and her reply was she wasn't aware of any loss of business.
I take MII with a grain of salt at this stage.

0
#21 01-11-2019 2:27pm

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

kk.man wrote: »

The CEO of Bord Bia was asked recently was any custom lost as result of the protests and her reply was she wasn't aware of any loss of business.
I take MII with a grain of salt at this stage.

Did that farmer at the end actually have any beef cattle when he was threatening to keep the clusterfock mess going.
Can't wait to see it again on RTE Player

0
Advertisement
#22 01-11-2019 2:37pm

memorystick

Registered Users Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2015

Posts: 1591

wrangler wrote: »

Did that farmer at the end actually have any beef cattle when he was threatening to keep the clusterfock mess going.
Can't wait to see it again on RTE Player

You do realise that the farmer producing the calf is the first link in the production chain. All slaughtered animals have been calves at some stage.

0
#23 01-11-2019 2:43pm

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

memorystick wrote: »

You do realise that the farmer producing the calf is the first link in the production chain. All slaughtered animals have been calves at some stage.

and weanlings never stopped being sold while those with beef cattle weren't let sell, yea that's very fair alright,
If they weren't so selfish they'd keep their own cattle out of the marts in support for the eight weeks.
I'd say that happened alright

0
#24 01-11-2019 6:02pm

amacca

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,105 ✭✭✭

Join Date: June 2008

Posts: 6899

wrangler wrote: »

and weanlings never stopped being sold while those with beef cattle weren't let sell, yea that's very fair alright,
If they weren't so selfish they'd keep their own cattle out of the marts in support for the eight weeks.
I'd say that happened alright

I'd have to agree with you on that........divided they'll fall etc

0
#25 01-11-2019 7:17pm

lalababa

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭

Join Date: May 2006

Posts: 1594

wrangler wrote: »

They seem to be able to pull the viewers that they wouldn't get if the did technical.
The mii guy made it plain that they'd lose customers before they'd give in to farmers and the customers they put off won't be as sympathetic the next time.
That was putting down a marker for those at the gates, they know the risks now

Arra yeah, but sure there's no point in sending animals in at a loss. Basically feck the factories and feck the customers. In any other business if your customers wanted you to sell your product to them at below cost you'd wouldn't be long telling them where to go.

0
#26 01-11-2019 7:30pm

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

lalababa wrote: »

Arra yeah, but sure there's no point in sending animals in at a loss. Basically feck the factories and feck the customers. In any other business if your customers wanted you to sell your product to them at below cost you'd wouldn't be long telling them where to go.

And you wouldn't block the gates to stop others selling to them though

0
#27 01-11-2019 7:33pm

Dinzee Conlee

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭

Join Date: April 2018

Posts: 2127

lalababa wrote: »

Arra yeah, but sure there's no point in sending animals in at a loss. Basically feck the factories and feck the customers. In any other business if your customers wanted you to sell your product to them at below cost you'd wouldn't be long telling them where to go.

The flip side is in any other business if you paid your suppliers below cost, they would stop producing...
Not so with farming

0
#28 01-11-2019 7:42pm

_Brian

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,619 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: April 2014

Posts: 18381

Would Daragh be the weakest of the three presenters ?
I find him the hardest to listen to anyway.

0
#29 01-11-2019 7:48pm

lalababa

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭

Join Date: May 2006

Posts: 1594

I wouldn't block gates no. I might stand near the road with a placard. But I wouldn't block gates. Twould be in my eyes unlawful, and ****ty on those that want to sell animals or are hauling.

0
#30 01-11-2019 8:05pm

Buford T. Justice XIX

Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2015

Posts: 19651

Mod note: Folks, the blockade discussion thread is linked below, I think it would be best if that conversation was kept in that thread.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=111657429#post111657429

Thanks in advance,

Buford T. Justice

0
Advertisement
#31 01-11-2019 8:23pm

whelan2

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2014

Posts: 29574

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Some boys to bale and shift straw.
Did a couple harvests up around the Ward about 15 years ago. Ennis brothers were some operation back then.

2 or 3 baling big squares. 2 lifting 8 bales at a time. 1 on volvo stacking. Eating through fields.

Oh worked for them 30 years ago. Sound people

0
#32 02-11-2019 2:16am

Base price

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2014

Posts: 11291

I only got a chance to see the programme tonight in full on the RTE player. In fairness to Eamonn Corley he admitted that the blockades didn't achieve much but unfortunately he didn't admit to the cluster fook that he and his ilk created to the determent of their fellow farmers :mad:

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he the first to resign his Directorship from the beef plan movement limited company when their strikes began.

0
#33 02-11-2019 3:40pm

Castlekeeper

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2013

Posts: 1883

alps wrote: »

Great farming panel and discussion in radio 1 late debate tonight. Thomas Duffy from macra is an incredible performer.

We've been lacking a capable media rep for a long time.. hopecully hell have time to fill some more slots..

He seemsto be a well researched alright, hopefully he'll keep the front up and doesnt show his true colours someday and let us all down. He's been well known to be acting somewhere between a maggot and a disgrace at times over the years on social media.

0
#34 02-11-2019 4:45pm

Buford T. Justice XIX

Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2015

Posts: 19651

Castlekeeper wrote: »

He seemsto be a well researched alright, hopefully he'll keep the front up and doesnt show his true colours someday and let us all down. He's been well known to be acting somewhere between a maggot and a disgrace at times over the years on social media.

I've been following him on social media for a couple of years now and haven't seen him acting the maggot. I've been on a course with him a number of years ago and seen no sign of any behaviour of that sort during the course or after it.

He came across as being well informed about different aspects of agriculture that was discussed and dissected there. We didn't always agree on different aspects but he always discussed the disagreement extremely civilly, tbh.

0
#35 02-11-2019 11:44pm

Capercaillie

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭

Join Date: February 2015

Posts: 1699

Castlekeeper wrote: »

He seemsto be a well researched alright, hopefully he'll keep the front up and doesnt show his true colours someday and let us all down. He's been well known to be acting somewhere between a maggot and a disgrace at times over the years on social media.

Maggot/disgrace would be about right!

0
#36 03-11-2019 12:32am

Keep Sluicing

Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭

Join Date: October 2018

Posts: 458

Capercaillie wrote: »

Maggot/disgrace would be about right!

Jesus lads ye are firing awful slurs about that lad, without giving any context

0
Advertisement
#37 03-11-2019 12:36am

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Jesus lads ye are firing awful slurs about that lad, without giving any context

Good to see I'm not the only one that finds it hard to tolerate this ****e,

0
#38 03-11-2019 12:59am

Dakota Dan

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭

Join Date: November 2017

Posts: 3731

PoorFarmer wrote: »

Darragh telling us how to save hay. Riveting stuff

You wouldn’t save much hay this weather.

0
#39 03-11-2019 1:48am

tractorporn

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭

Join Date: February 2015

Posts: 1385

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Jesus lads ye are firing awful slurs about that lad, without giving any context

I've had a few run in with him on one of the farming groups on Facebook, didn't awful running down of the organic sector at the time. It's about 5 years ago now or maybe more I cant check now cos I've deleted Facebook. I've noticed he switched to twitter and stopped the bashing since he started climbing up through Macra.

0
#40 07-11-2019 9:29pm

whelan2

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2014

Posts: 29574

On next on rte1

0
#41 07-11-2019 10:08pm

Base price

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: January 2014

Posts: 11291

whelan2 wrote: »

On next on rte1

Thanks for the reminder whelan. I will catch it on RTE +1.

0
Advertisement
#42 07-11-2019 10:10pm

Dunedin

Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2009

Posts: 2248

Anyone know any more of the pros and cons on the Saturn farm model.

Seemed interesting.

0
#43 07-11-2019 10:17pm

farisfat

Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭

Join Date: November 2016

Posts: 324

Dunedin wrote: »

Anyone know any more of the pros and cons on the Saturn farm model.

Seemed interesting.

I know nothing about Saturn but it looks like they take a cut for organising partnerships.

0
#44 07-11-2019 10:48pm

Dunedin

Registered Users Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2009

Posts: 2248

farisfat wrote: »

I know nothing about Saturn but it looks like they take a cut for organising partnerships.

Enough to pay a ceo at that too........

Seems a good way for a young farmer to get into a few cows/career that may not have land of their own.

0
#45 08-11-2019 11:23am

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

I didn't watch it but I know the vegetable farmers, they worked so hard, backbreaking work as well.
They've a good business and now no one to take it over,
Same story countrywide I suppose

0
#46 08-11-2019 12:01pm

Muckit

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: September 2009

Posts: 10827

wrangler wrote: »

and weanlings never stopped being sold while those with beef cattle weren't let sell, yea that's very fair alright,
If they weren't so selfish they'd keep their own cattle out of the marts in support for the eight weeks.
I'd say that happened alright

Very very true. Factories and marts next time. Only thing l see wrong is it would probably finish some marts if closed for 8weeks. That would be tragic

0
#47 08-11-2019 6:23pm

alps

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭

Join Date: November 2011

Posts: 5071

Muckit wrote: »

Very very true. Factories and marts next time. Only thing l see wrong is it would probably finish some marts if closed for 8weeks. That would be tragic

It would finish a few farmers if closed for a few weeks...

0
#48 08-11-2019 6:39pm

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

alps wrote: »

It would finish a few farmers if closed for a few weeks...

There's a lot of farmers that won't let them close a factory again, I was talking to a couple last night that ran the gauntlet

0
#49 21-11-2019 9:51pm

whelan2

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: March 2014

Posts: 29574

On now. Organic hen man was interesting.

0
#50 21-11-2019 10:36pm

wrangler

Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2017

Posts: 11218

whelan2 wrote: »

On now. Organic hen man was interesting.

A friend has 8000 hens, organic, I think it takes him 2hrs twice a day to collect the eggs, elevator brings them out and he puts them on trays......mind numbing work, might as well be milking

0
#51 12-12-2019 9:49pm

older by the day

Registered Users Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭

Join Date: December 2014

Posts: 1869

Anyone watching this programme tonight. That butcher bit was a bit too real, for most tonight, and how much did it cost to build that distilleries, big investment I'd say. There must be big money in it

0
Advertisement