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Classic insurance - companies & brokers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Dades wrote: »
    Although the 20yr rule isn't set in stone, I really don't think you have a chance of getting a classic policy for a '92 car. If you had a fleet of other classics, maybe, but really they will just look on it as a second car.

    Lovely motor though. :)

    The problem is..........it's a 3-series :D:D

    No, really - it's still seen as a 'current model' car - which, tbh, it is. Yours would have been available until....99?

    My 93 968 gets Classic ins at Eur406, and my 94 goes classic next year.

    What's not to like??:D

    Oh, a 996.............hmmmmm

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Mac 3


    galwaytt wrote: »
    The problem is..........it's a 3-series :D:D

    No, really - it's still seen as a 'current model' car - which, tbh, it is. Yours would have been available until....99?

    No, not quite. Its an e30 3 series convertible, the previous generation 3 series, ie the eighties model. Production of the saloons and coupes were phased out in 1991 but convertibles and tourings (estate models) went on until 1993, and theres even the odd 94 around.

    Here's a pic,

    325iblack2.jpg
    Whats meant by a current car?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭E. Fudd


    Right lads, 24, full license, 6 years no claims bonus.

    I'm looking at importing a 1964 landrover series 2.

    The problem is, I recently got a company van, and got rid of my private jeep, so I've no insurance in my own name. Is there anybody out there who can/will insure me?

    Cheers in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    Mac 3 and E.Fudd I would suggest you both phone AXA and ask for Myles O'Reilly. He is a car enthusiast and in charge of that section. If you are genuine he will sort you out. Dont talk to anyone else !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭E. Fudd


    Thanks Merc,

    Will I just ring on the main axa number?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    Phone 01-8048922. It would help if you were part of a Club too I believe !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    AXA are charging me 2.5k for an '86 Golf GTI, 24, full license but no no claims due to driving company vehicles for the last 5 years. Ah well at least next year I'll (fingers crossed, touch wood etc...) have 1 years no claims and I'll have turned 25..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 turbocabrio


    galwaytt wrote: »
    The problem is..........it's a 3-series :D:D

    No, really - it's still seen as a 'current model' car - which, tbh, it is. Yours would have been available until....99?

    My 93 968 gets Classic ins at Eur406, and my 94 goes classic next year.

    What's not to like??:D

    Oh, a 996.............hmmmmm

    hi Galway tt,
    just wondering where you are getting your 968 insured for 406euro.just got my renewal in for my 944turbo 653 euro from carole nash. getting a bit high.is your insurance fully comp or third party fire and theft.
    yours sincerely
    paul ormond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    just wondering where you are getting your 968 insured for 406euro.just got my renewal in for my 944turbo 653 euro from carole nash. getting a bit high.is your insurance fully comp or third party fire and theft

    I'm paying Carole Nash €380 for my 4.7l '86 928. Third party only though and limited miles

    If yours is comp or even just TPFT it seems a pretty ok quote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Mac 3


    MercMad wrote: »
    Mac 3 and E.Fudd I would suggest you both phone AXA and ask for Myles O'Reilly. He is a car enthusiast and in charge of that section. If you are genuine he will sort you out. Dont talk to anyone else !


    Hi Mercmad,

    I got onto my broker last month and the renewal came in at €614 with AXA. Its not a classic policy, they still see an E30 cab as an everyday car but I suppose its not too bad. No mileage limit and breakdown assist and glass coverage included. Next time round I'll try to speak to the gentleman you mentioned above.

    Thanks for your help anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Gar81


    Hi lads,
    I just went out today and bought an 87 325 convertible, and thought it would qualify for classic insurance as it is 21 years old, but a friend thinks it's 25 years. I have a policy for my mk2 escort which hasn't been cancelled as i only sold it. do you think they will transfer policy to the E30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Mac 3


    Hi Gar, what company is your escort with? The fact that you have a policy might stand to you. They might be anxious to hold onto your business. Is the 325 a daily driver or something just for weekends?

    I looked high and low for a company that might be flexible about the age of my car. There were a few brokers that might have been able to do something for me if the car was 20 but mine is 16 years old this year. I got it with AXA for a finish. (have a read of the last few posts)

    Any idea when the 325 celebrates her birthday, ie date of reg as they can be sticky on that.

    Mac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 gavin mahony


    Paul (MN) wrote: »
    My W123 200T is only 1984 so not a classic but I am insuring it for €600 for

    - normal policy, unlimited mileage
    - TP only
    - me 29 Full NCB, wife 29 just passed test

    With AXA.
    greatings i have a 87. 124. 200t and got a quote from first ireland on 018820800 for fully comp full time using car for 320yoyo,s i am 34 mechanic which i think is great was quoted 700 from axa . id shop around a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭Blue850


    In this months Irish Vintage Scene, (MK2 Escort on the cover), IVETA have an ad for insurance and it says they'll cover cars from 15 years old on a classic policy


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 eagle owl


    Got a very good deal* from Aviva Hibernian, who are now taking classic insurance seriously. Last year they didnt quote, so I went to AXA. It helped that I have two family cars with Hibernian and am in the 'mid life crisis' bracket... I went in person to the office, which I think is better than over the phone. * 190 fully comp -1970 VW valued at c.€5000. Only thing they needed was a photo- mileage is <5000 p.a. , but no silly conditions..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    sounds good eagle owl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Is it poss to get an up to date list of who's offering classic cover, just to refresh (this thread goes back a bit).

    Also, wondering, what's the story with adding a 2nd classic on the the policy - partial 2nd premium ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 446 ✭✭Eric318


    Just renewed with First Ireland, using AIG. 2 Classics, 50% bonus, fully Comp, €460, same price as last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    im AIG through first ireland too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭manta356


    Insured mk1 escort with Axa,comp with €7500 value <3500 miles p.a for €255.Was told i could add another classic for approx €100.Policy can have up to four classics
    Added a Capri 2.0s 1984 with €5000 value <1000 miles p.a. for €130 today


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭mumblin deaf ro


    Blue850 wrote: »
    In this months Irish Vintage Scene, (MK2 Escort on the cover), IVETA have an ad for insurance and it says they'll cover cars from 15 years old on a classic policy


    Is that for IVETA members only?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭MercMad


    Just renewed with AXA, 280SE Coupe valued at €25k and Pagoda, on a "Laid Up" policy, fully comp for €350 !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 2manyturbos


    Blue850 wrote: »
    In this months Irish Vintage Scene, (MK2 Escort on the cover), IVETA have an ad for insurance and it says they'll cover cars from 15 years old on a classic policy
    Eric318 wrote: »
    Just renewed with First Ireland and, using AIG. 2 Classics, 50% bonus, fully Comp, €460, same price as last year.

    I declined to renew my policy with First Ireland and Travelers. It covered my '92 Subaru SVX 3.3 litre TPFT, had 5000 miles restriction and has to have garage and full alarm.
    They advised me strongly not to cancel the policy half way through the year as I would lose benefits.

    I followed their advice, the policy was €580 last year, and is heavily discounted to €560 this year with the "benefit" of 1 year's NCB. Needless to say I am not too impressed. :mad:

    For all this money the car has been to one show in England, one trip to have wheels tracked and one trip to the NCT, less than 1000 miles traveled.

    The IVETA scheme looks good with my car being 17 years old and totally a show car only. [we have two other everyday policies].

    Any advice as to where to get a decent deal besides this? AXA?

    Joe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭mumblin deaf ro


    Has anyone with fewer than five years' driving experience managed to get classic car insurance? I only have two years' (one with full licence) experience and it seems to be a problem.

    PS: I'm 33 (late convert) and so am not affectd by the under 25 restriction.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,752 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Blue850 wrote: »
    In this months Irish Vintage Scene, (MK2 Escort on the cover), IVETA have an ad for insurance and it says they'll cover cars from 15 years old on a classic policy

    Are they good value? Their website is not telling me much tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭John Dough


    :rolleyes:
    Are they good value? Their website is not telling me much tbh.

    Yes might be interested in them if the price is right ,has anyone used them?

    I presume you have to take out membership?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭PIMPHO


    Got insured with Axa for €231 for my 1972 Spitfire, with my gf as main driver and me as the named driver. It was €260 but got a discount as gf has an existing car policy with Axa already. Can drive up to 3,500m a year.

    Cheapest quote I could find after ringing around all the insurance companies and brokers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭nmacc


    1980 Mk1 gti 1600 for €252 fully comp with Hibernian Aviva. A reasonable price and a pleasant and very rapid transaction; I don't think I've ever obtained insurance as rapidly or with fewer questions. Required a photo of the car and took a copy of my licence and the better half's. Annual mileage limit is 6,000 I think and another car insured as a daily driver is a requirement, but the daily driver policy does not have to be with H-A; ours is with Quinns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Hifive


    Renewed with Carol Nash yesterday for €361.00

    Two cars.
    1974 Triumph Stag 3.0l & 1989 BMW 635 CSI 3.5l
    Comprehensive cover for 44 yr old male, excess of €200, 2000 miles p/a, breakdown assistance.

    I actually got a reminder call from them last week telling me that my premium was going up from €334.00 to €480.00.
    I then rang around but couldn't get a quote from anyone (Tried, 1st Irl, AXA, Aviva, ODON, 123, and a few others I cant remember) as I don't have a policy in my own name, I'm just a named driver on my wife's policy.
    So I called carol Nash back to query the new premium and he came down to €361.00 straight away!

    The guy was fairly sound, so I chanced asking him about going over the 2k limit (about 3000 miles total last year) and he said not to worry as they don't know what the starting mileage is anyway.

    Mark.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Hifive wrote: »
    I don't have a policy in my own name, I'm just a named driver on my wife's policy.

    That's my situation exactly. Irish insurance is a funny business. Here's me with 23 years on a full license with no claims ever. And there's my wife with a full license for just over a year and just 4 years NCB. I obviously gave full disclosure of our situation and I pointed out that the wife is unlikely to ever drive the Porsche, but there you go. Mind though about your own NCB. I have heard that it disappears if not used for 2 years. Check it out to be sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 495 ✭✭Hifive


    unkel wrote: »
    That's my situation exactly. Irish insurance is a funny business. Here's me with 23 years on a full license with no claims ever. And there's my wife with a full license for just over a year and just 4 years NCB. I obviously gave full disclosure of our situation and I pointed out that the wife is unlikely to ever drive the Porsche, but there you go. Mind though about your own NCB. I have heard that it disappears if not used for 2 years. Check it out to be sure!


    Sorry Unkel,
    I didn't make that very clear.
    The existing classic policy that I've just renewed with CN is in my own name, But I don't have a regular insurance policy on a modern car in my name, I'm just a named driver on my wifes policy with Hibernian on her 2.4 liter Volvo.

    1st Ireland did quote and for similar money to CN, but the policy would have to be in my wife's name and she would have to be a member of a classic car club!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭commited


    eagle owl wrote: »
    Got a very good deal* from Aviva Hibernian, who are now taking classic insurance seriously. Last year they didnt quote, so I went to AXA. It helped that I have two family cars with Hibernian and am in the 'mid life crisis' bracket... I went in person to the office, which I think is better than over the phone. * 190 fully comp -1970 VW valued at c.€5000. Only thing they needed was a photo- mileage is <5000 p.a. , but no silly conditions..
    nmacc wrote: »
    1980 Mk1 gti 1600 for €252 fully comp with Hibernian Aviva. A reasonable price and a pleasant and very rapid transaction; I don't think I've ever obtained insurance as rapidly or with fewer questions. Required a photo of the car and took a copy of my licence and the better half's. Annual mileage limit is 6,000 I think and another car insured as a daily driver is a requirement, but the daily driver policy does not have to be with H-A; ours is with Quinns.

    This is odd - they want €288 from me, for my Mercedes 230C. They want an engineers report from a main dealer however, which is a bit of a joke - will probably cost more than the insurance.

    This is through O'Driscoll, O'Neill using my company car as my main car & 24 (6 weeks off 25) and license for nearly 6 years.

    Should I just go direct?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭sogood


    Silvera wrote: »
    Glad my info is of use shagman !

    Don't forget to mention where you got their details (i.e. give them the www.boards.ie address !;) )...........it may just lead to some of their members signing up to this forum - which would be great !

    Silvera.

    P.S. €845 for a 3 litre car (in everyday use!) doesn't sound too bad to me !

    I drive a 1990 (not classic yet!) 3.5 litre BMW and one years fully comprehensive insurance comes in at 455 euro to include windscreen cover. This is my one and only everyday driver. The biggest downside is the immovable object of road tax at 1,500 per annum. It should definitely be included in the price of petrol, so its on a pay-as-you-drive basis. My car sits up for about 4-5 months every year when I'm working away, but its staggered, week or two here and there. As it is, a smaller car that does more mileage and damage to the environment etc pays less tax than I do!


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 nicholas.murphy


    I'm having a similar problem to SOGOOD in that my car isn't classic yet. I have a 1990 BMW 316i in mint condition with only 15,100 miles. I've had the car valued at €10,000

    I recently found out that Hibernian will only insure me for 'market value', which for a 20 year old 316i is €1500-€2000 and is a car with probably 160,000 miles and rusty wheel arches!

    Other insurers are the same, and for classic insurance require that it's a 2nd car and/or be 25/30 years old. I could arrange it as a 2nd car by putting my fiancé’s car under my name, but it's still not old enough.

    Would anyone have any suggestions how I can get it insured for it's actual value?

    Thanks in Advance,
    Nick
    e301.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    AFAIK, Hibernian will agree a value if you provide photos. I can't see any insurer agreeing a value of €10,000 for an E30 316i, though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25 nicholas.murphy


    Thanks for your advice Anan1. I've been on to Hibernian many times with no success. They even said they wouldn't be interested if I paid for an independent valuation.

    However just this afternoon I had a breakthrough - Hibernian are doing classic car insurance but through the branches only - I was always talking to their call centre. They require that you prove named insurance on another car, but that doesn't have to be with Hibernian. They also want photos as you rightly pointed out.

    BTW, I think the car was valued at €10k because of it's original condition & little over one year of mileage - for example the boot has never been used and the back seats have never been sat in - and it's custom-fitted cover keeps it that way. :) . Do you think it's worth a lot less that that?


    Nick
    e301.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭sogood


    I'm having a similar problem to SOGOOD in that my car isn't classic yet. I have a 1990 BMW 316i in mint condition with only 15,100 miles. I've had the car valued at €10,000

    I recently found out that Hibernian will only insure me for 'market value', which for a 20 year old 316i is €1500-€2000 and is a car with probably 160,000 miles and rusty wheel arches!

    Other insurers are the same, and for classic insurance require that it's a 2nd car and/or be 25/30 years old. I could arrange it as a 2nd car by putting my fiancé’s car under my name, but it's still not old enough.

    Would anyone have any suggestions how I can get it insured for it's actual value?

    Thanks in Advance,
    Nick
    e301.jpg

    Thats a nice looking car Nick, exceptional mileage too! How come? It looks just like my Beemers' little brother, same colour too! it's frustrating that so many "relevant" bodies see our cars as metal and plastic, a means of transport and thats all! As with all things, its worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. One strange paradox of sorts is this, insurance companies will say "its only worth xxx according to our calculations, so therefore, we will only give you xxx for it. The VRT people on the other hand, manage to come up with over inflated current market values on imports, therefore saying " we are going to charge you xxx and then some!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 nicholas.murphy


    Thanks SOGOOD . . . it's a little off this thread's topic . . . but nearly 7 months of searching, endless phone calls, 3 trips to the UK, dealer checks, documentation checks, tears . . . is the way I found exceptionally low mileage! Worth it in the end though. :)

    To update my previous post, a very helpful person in Hibernian Dun Laoghaire has given me a fully comp policy at my valuation for under €300 providing I can prove insurance on another car, provide documentation & photos, and keep mileage below 2000 per year. I'm just waiting on the policy documents to check all this is correct. Lesson learnt is to go to the branch and avoid the call centres.

    Hope this helps everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    Thanks for your advice Anan1. I've been on to Hibernian many times with no success. They even said they wouldn't be interested if I paid for an independent valuation.

    However just this afternoon I had a breakthrough - Hibernian are doing classic car insurance but through the branches only - I was always talking to their call centre. They require that you prove named insurance on another car, but that doesn't have to be with Hibernian. They also want photos as you rightly pointed out.

    BTW, I think the car was valued at €10k because of it's original condition & little over one year of mileage - for example the boot has never been used and the back seats have never been sat in - and it's custom-fitted cover keeps it that way. :) . Do you think it's worth a lot less that that?


    Nick
    e301.jpg
    It looks like a lovely car, and I think it should be worth €10,000. But i'm sure you know as well as I do what the market's like these days. FWIW, I got Hibernian to cover a 911 for me, comp, agreed value €24k, for €250.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Smul


    Does any company allow named drivers on a classic insurance policy? Ie. if my father got insurance on a classic car, could I be put on as a named driver? On top of that are there any that would allow named drivers as young as 20 or 21?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭louth87


    Im pretty much in the same boat Smul, 22 with full licence and 3yrs ncb, and can't get insured as named driver on my dad's classic, doesn't seem to be possible until you hit 25 unless you know someone in the insurance business!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭trevorbrady


    anyone know of any companies that will insure a classic camper just as a classic?

    I have a '73 Beetle and a '74 VW camper and a daily driver. I can't combine any of the policies so I have three separate policies, all with AXA (or in the case of the camper, with Dolmen but underwritten by AXA).

    Both the Beetle and camper are up for renewal, €250 for the beetle, €330 for the van. While neither are going to break the bank my problem is this: I already pay for a daily-driver policy on the Corolla so I'm trying to minimise the cost of insurance on the other two since I can only drive one car at a time.

    Anyone got any ideas?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    Can you not get the Beetle and Camper together on one policy with anyone? I was speaking to AXA just a couple of days ago and understood that their classic car policy could have up to three additional vehicles. (Whether or not a camper is a car is up for debate).

    I've just had to do my 31 year old daily on a regular policy for €500. I'm sore because I know back in the UK I could have it on a classic policy as main vehicle, U/L mileage, breakdown, everything for £100. + an additional car wouldn't cost any more. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭trevorbrady


    no, they won't accept the camper as a classic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Silvera wrote: »
    Classic insurance is also now available from.......

    www.123.ie/classic/


    Talked to them and nothing older that mid 80's.

    Got renewal quote from AXA for €310,

    Just called Carole Nash, and got it for €208, 4000 miles, fully comp on a 1.9L 1969 Classic.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 AlexBrowne


    Does anyone know if you can be insured on a 30 year old VW Campervan if your only 20?

    My Da said he would insure it but could I be put on as a named driver?


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Lauder


    AlexBrowne wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can be insured on a 30 year old VW Campervan if your only 20?

    My Da said he would insure it but could I be put on as a named driver?

    First Ireland will. I have the same problem over the last few years, as you have to be over 25 to get Classic Insurance on your own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 AlexBrowne


    So you think that if my dad insures it that I can be put on as a named driver?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭spooky donkey


    im bumping this thread cause I keep looking for it and its hard to find.


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭Stiffs


    http://www.irishvintage.net/

    By Far the cheapest around.. Up to you whether you want a window dressing or fully comp all in.


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