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All Together Now 2020

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  • #1402
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    desk tidy wrote: »
    Looks like they're quietly preparing anyway. Trader applications open for this year.

    https://www.alltogethernow.ie/traders

    They pretty much have to. Need to do everything possible to try attempt have event, ensure funding is there for next years event. Far easier to do this and then cancel/postpone later in year/closer to event which most likely will happen


  • #1403
    desk tidy
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭desk tidy


    Lost Ormond wrote: »
    They pretty much have to. Need to do everything possible to try attempt have event, ensure funding is there for next years event. Far easier to do this and then cancel/postpone later in year/closer to event which most likely will happen


    Yeah EP might have a chance but this has to be a write off at this stage. Still I'll hold onto a wee bit of hope until they say otherwise.


  • #1404
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    desk tidy wrote: »
    Yeah EP might have a chance but this has to be a write off at this stage. Still I'll hold onto a wee bit of hope until they say otherwise.

    If it does go ahead they would have to cut capacity from the 22,000 last year, a more realistic to End of the Road festival capacity like 10,000 or 15,000, so somewhere between EOTR and Body & Soul capacity would be more realistic. Judging by the way things are going at the moment it doesn't look likely unless we get that vaccine rollout kick started.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #1405
    ab4248
    Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭ab4248


    Online event?


  • #1406
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    ab4248 wrote: »
    Online event?

    They still have this up too (see attachment). The hardest part is not knowing!!


  • #1407
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ab4248 wrote: »
    Online event?

    Seems just like another event piggy backing on it by looks of it. Unless they will do some sort of online festival to generate hype for next year or something


  • #1408
    PabloAndRoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭PabloAndRoy


    El Director wrote: »
    They still have this up too (see attachment). The hardest part is not knowing!!

    We all know that we won't be going to Portlaw this year.


  • #1409
    SweetCaliber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    El Director wrote: »
    They still have this up too (see attachment). The hardest part is not knowing!!

    I'd say theres more of a chance of pubs opening back up tomorrow than there is of a festival in Portlaw in August!


  • #1410
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    I need to believe there’s some chance for the old mental health! My plan B is Wildroots in Sligo later in August, much smaller event and they are still very hopeful. They believe that antigen testing and the vaccine passport could play a big part. They are already onsite building infrastructure.


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  • #1411
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    I think I heard rumours that Body & Soul is looking to a September date. I can’t find anything on that though, anyone else hear that?


  • #1412
    Wooderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Yes, when. All Together Now is inevitable.


    :confused:


  • #1413
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    El Director wrote: »
    I think I heard rumours that Body & Soul is looking to a September date. I can’t find anything on that though, anyone else hear that?

    They're staying fairly quiet about what the plan is. I find it a bit disrespectful to people whose money they have to give no indication whatsoever to be honest


  • #1414
    Lost Ormond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    griffdaddy wrote: »
    They're staying fairly quiet about what the plan is. I find it a bit disrespectful to people whose money they have to give no indication whatsoever to be honest

    Disrespectful is very harsh.
    The festivals have kept the ticket money as without it many festivals wouldnt have survived and theyre quiet as they simply have very little idea about whether they will have an event this year or not


  • #1415
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    Lost Ormond wrote: »
    Disrespectful is very harsh.
    The festivals have kept the ticket money as without it many festivals wouldnt have survived and theyre quiet as they simply have very little idea about whether they will have an event this year or not

    While I agree with you that the festivals wouldnt have survived and many of us were happy to not seek refunds because of this, that doesnt give carte blanche to not communicate. In fact it puts a greater onus on to communicate.

    No is asking for certainties, but a more regular engagement would be respectful of the support that has been shown to ATN.


  • #1416
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    While I agree with you that the festivals wouldnt have survived and many of us were happy to not seek refunds because of this, that doesnt give carte blanche to not communicate. In fact it puts a greater onus on to communicate.

    No is asking for certainties, but a more regular engagement would be respectful of the support that has been shown to ATN.

    Not sure what they can say besides they are hoping to go ahead which really until they are officially cancelled is the default position. Government meant to announce plans for May, June and July towards end of month so maybe they will have a better idea but just cant see it being able to go ahead this summer unfortunately.


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  • #1417
    Rigor Mortis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭Rigor Mortis


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not sure what they can say besides they are hoping to go ahead which really until they are officially cancelled is the default position. Government meant to announce plans for May, June and July towards end of month so maybe they will have a better idea but just cant see it being able to go ahead this summer unfortunately.

    There is plenty you can communicate. You can let punters know that you are engaging with Government. You can update on what is happening at the site. You can even occasionally post and say thanks for your patience.
    This is a business and yes we all like it and wish it the best but there is a need to treat customers and supporters with a degree of respect.


  • #1418
    Wooderson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wooderson


    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    There is plenty you can communicate. You can let punters know that you are engaging with Government. You can update on what is happening at the site. You can even occasionally post and say thanks for your patience.
    This is a business and yes we all like it and wish it the best but there is a need to treat customers and supporters with a degree of respect.


    Agree with you on all of this. The lack of update is nonsense, this event hasnt a chance of going ahead.


  • #1419
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    While I agree with you that the festivals wouldnt have survived and many of us were happy to not seek refunds because of this, that doesnt give carte blanche to not communicate. In fact it puts a greater onus on to communicate.

    No is asking for certainties, but a more regular engagement would be respectful of the support that has been shown to ATN.

    This is it exactly. It takes about 15 seconds to write something on Facebook like 'Turbulent times guys, we're just as much in the dark as you. We're praying as much as you are that things can go ahead at some stage this year and will let you know as soon as we know anything. Love, the B&S crew.'


  • #1420
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    https://www.iomst.ie/event/all-together-now-festival/

    Just waiting for official announcement now.


  • #1421
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    El Director wrote: »
    https://www.iomst.ie/event/all-together-now-festival/

    Just waiting for official announcement now.

    Writing has been on the wall for a while now. Say once government gives official plan for next few months and there not being anything about events over 10k it could be cancelled so maybe the next week or 2. Surprised POD hasn't cancelled Forbidden Fruit yet tbh


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  • #1422
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Writing has been on the wall for a while now. Say once government gives official plan for next few months and there not being anything about events over 10k it could be cancelled so maybe the next week or 2. Surprised POD hasn't cancelled Forbidden Fruit yet tbh

    Very surprised, I have Sunday tickets. Wildroots now my only hope!


  • #1423
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    I reached out to ATN re the above post where it seems to have been cancelled and they actually got back to me:

    “Hi Michael, we haven’t cancelled this years festival. We are liaising with the statuary bodies on what might be allowed to take place come August. Hopefully we will have an update for everyone within the next few weeks”

    So hopefully they are still working on a line up etc I actually couldn’t care less if it was a scaled back event this year with all Irish acts.

    I really believe that if there’s a will there’s a way, government just need to be a bit more ambitious and brave. Use lateral flow tests upon entry and randomly throughout the weekend allow vaccinated people, those that have had Covid and recovered and/or those with a negative test 24 hours prior to entry to attend. Wishful thinking in this country maybe but there is a way.

    Anyway, just thought people would like to know - there’s still some hope.


  • #1424
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0429/1212929-covid-events/


  • #1425
    RINO87
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭RINO87


    It's the hope that kills ya.....


    But we will hang on to it anyway :)


  • #1426
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Nothing but positive news in the last week regarding festivals. I would have seriously thought that NPHET and Tony H would be managing expectations around EP but they are really getting people's hopes up by not ruling it out yet and, well, if EP goes ahead then surely its game on!

    *daydreaming sequence initiated* cracks open the first, super chilled, can. Takes a sip, looks around at all his friends, laughing, joking, smiling - a whole weekend of possibilities open in front of us...this is actually happening :cool:


  • #1427
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    How are people feeling now about the Aug BHW? For the first time in weeks, I'm a bit, pessimistic folks. The leaked guidelines do not fill me with much hope.


  • #1428
    rubick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭rubick


    I'd sort of made my peace with the early August BH being too soon. Still have the tickets mind you.


  • #1429
    fish_fingers
    Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭fish_fingers


    El Director wrote: »
    How are people feeling now about the Aug BHW? For the first time in weeks, I'm a bit, pessimistic folks. The leaked guidelines do not fill me with much hope.

    Hmmm...was hopeful, and I'm jumping the gun here, but I was under the impression that "pilot" events would be taking place in June. Now, it appears to me, again jumping the gun, that the leaked stuff suggests crowds of what I would deem to be pilot events in August?????
    The news suggests that they're tickled pink with themselves about the very positive stuff that's going to be announced. If it's what's leaked, I'll be asking myself what they're taking.

    Going back a step, I would have thought that ATN would have been a wonderful pilot event; 20k people, many, many who have been vaccinated...so, show your cert, or whatever, in one queue, or get tested in the other queue, much like customs. It would have been a pretty damn good pilot to show how things would go for the E...cough cough...P event 1 month later.

    I fear it'll be all smiles tonight with them saying that look it here, you can now go and get a burger and chips in the hotel and a pint with a mate outside--we're rocking and rolling. There'll be lip service to the real entertainment business. I hope to G I'm wrong and have to apologise here later.


  • #1430
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Seems from speculation so far capacity is 5,000 or 25% of capacity whichever is smaller. Croke Park which can hold 80k only able to have 5k. Not sure what specific capacity would be for outdoor venues but will be a max of 5k anyway which would be no good.


  • #1431
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    fish_fingers wrote: »
    Going back a step, I would have thought that ATN would have been a wonderful pilot event; 20k people, many, many who have been vaccinated...so, show your cert, or whatever, in one queue, or get tested in the other queue, much like customs. It would have been a pretty damn good pilot to show how things would go for the E...cough cough...P event 1 month later.

    Sure this would have been far too forward-thinking and too ambitious :mad:


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  • #1432
    Mimon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    Surely the main acts at least would want to know if it's going ahead at this stage.

    If not they could look at filling in a slot at a festival in another country.


  • #1433
    Granite Head
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Granite Head


    5,000 - 10,000 will be the max at outdoor events this summer - surely this will rule out ATN?

    I want to start making alternative plans for that BHW - when do you think a formal announcement will be made either way?

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  • #1434
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Granite Head wrote: »
    5,000 - 10,000 will be the max at outdoor events this summer - surely this will rule out ATN?

    I want to start making alternative plans for that BHW - when do you think a formal announcement will be made either way?

    8 weeks to go from this weekend. Would think within at least 4-6 weeks to go it would have to be cancelled if it's unclear it can go ahead.


  • #1435
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Wildroots still have about 1,000 tickets left I think. Capped at 10k and two weeks later, it’s my backup plan. They have a full line up too, complete with a comedy line up and a dance tent!


  • #1436
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Seeing as there's only the 1 bank holiday between July and end of September on August bank holiday weekend wonder does them mean ATN not going ahead? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4422231847862606&id=897021763716983&fs=0&focus_composer=0


  • #1437
    Basq
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,028 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    ^ Sherlock wha'?!?

    I'm resigned to it not going ahead at this stage but kinda wish they'd get off the fence.


  • #1438
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    I’ll ping “Alan” a little email “inquiring” about that weekend.


  • #1439
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    El Director wrote: »
    I’ll ping “Alan” a little email “inquiring” about that weekend.

    "Do you have a slot for a party of 10,000?"


  • #1440
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Basq wrote: »
    ^ Sherlock wha'?!?

    I'm resigned to it not going ahead at this stage but kinda wish they'd get off the fence.

    Yeah it's the uncertainty which is most frustrating at this stage. At least people could make other plans if it's definitely not going ahead


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  • #1441
    El Director
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭El Director


    Eod100 wrote: »
    "Do you have a slot for a party of 10,000?"

    :D

    “Any special requests?”
    “Dance tent please”


  • #1442
    eplady2017
    Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭eplady2017


    https://twitter.com/MagdaDavitt77/status/1400912214874329093?s=20

    I wonder now that 1 of the only 3-4 acts announced has announced her retirement will they finally put us out of our misery...


  • #1443
    Hoboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,590 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    eplady2017 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/MagdaDavitt77/status/1400912214874329093?s=20

    I wonder now that 1 of the only 3-4 acts announced has announced her retirement will they finally put us out of our misery...

    When tickets sell out again. Rinse repeat.


  • #1444
    fafy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭fafy


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah it's the uncertainty which is most frustrating at this stage. At least people could make other plans if it's definitely not going ahead

    The only uncertainty, is when it will it be cancelled, but i’d say less than 2 weeks from now. Have tickets for EP, and accepted months ago, it won’t happen this year, happy to be going in 2022.


  • #1445
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    fafy wrote: »
    The only uncertainty, is when it will it be cancelled, but i’d say less than 2 weeks from now. Have tickets for EP, and accepted months ago, it won’t happen this year, happy to be going in 2022.

    Poorly phrased on my part. Agree it's not going to happen. Meant more about official announcement. Not sure what will change in s few weeks fo would think it would be cancelled sooner rather than later alright unfortunately.


  • #1446
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Maybe they are just planning to ghost out of it, like Body and Soul did!


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  • #1447
    eplady2017
    Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭eplady2017


    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4422231847862606&id=897021763716983

    If it is going ahead its a different venue or later in the year as Curraghmore House has other plans for the summer months...


  • #1448
    dodo87
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭dodo87


    eplady2017 wrote: »
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4422231847862606&id=897021763716983

    If it is going ahead its a different venue or later in the year as Curraghmore House has other plans for the summer months...

    No different to any other year for the venue


  • #1449
    eplady2017
    Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭eplady2017


    dodo87 wrote: »
    No different to any other year for the venue

    I knew they opened to the public but didn't think they opened the Aug Bank Holiday weekend when the festival was on...


  • #1450
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,821 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Maybe they are just planning to ghost out of it, like Body and Soul did!

    What happened there? Checked their site and social media and seems to be no update. Had they just cancelled and refunded all tickets last year instead of postponing it?


  • #1451
    Granite Head
    Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭Granite Head


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Maybe they are just planning to ghost out of it, like Body and Soul did!

    I thought B&S was postponed till September - or am I imagining that - doesn't seem to be any announcement online.

    2024 Gigs and Events: Jarlath Regan, Depeche Mode, Roisin Murphy, Pip Blom, Nouvelle Vogue, Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark, Murder Capital, Pixies, The Stranglers, Liam Gallagher & John Squires, The Jesus & Mary Chain, DJ Shadow, Cam Cole, Fight Like Apes, Somebody's Child, Kacey Musgraves, Sprints, Nadine Shah, Jane Weaver, Bob Log lll, Jimmy Carr, Beyond The Pale, LCD Sound System, Patti Smith, Night & Day Festival, Suede/Manic Street Preachers, The Beat, Muirean Bradley, All Together Now, Bonny Prince Billy, Phosphorescent, Ride, Dirt Birds, Melts, Tommy Tiernan, The Libertines, The Last Dinner Party, St. Vincent, Los Bitchos, Iron & Wine x2, John Grant, Therapy, Ezra Collective, Public Service Broadcasting, Fat Dog, Ezra Collective, Nick Cave, Peter Hook & The Light, Idles, MJ Lenderman, Khruangbin, Lightning Seeds, Vampire Weekend, Fontaines DC, Villagers, Confidence Man, Amble



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