Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Spring/Summer 2020

Discodog · 14-06-2020 3:32pm

redsteveireland wrote: »

Really missing the radar, big meaty raindrops here from a passing shower but nothing on the radar, Galway

Seems to be picking plenty on it's outer ranges - probably because it's heavy rain & high up

Pangea · 14-06-2020 3:44pm

Incredible thunderstorm here in SW Donegal at the moment, floods everywhere

Discodog · 14-06-2020 3:45pm

The Northern half of the country seems to be getting it this time

Larbre34 · 14-06-2020 3:46pm

Any danger of that energetic activity over Wales giving the Dublin region some fun?

Little snowy old me · 14-06-2020 3:58pm

By the looks of things, there will be nothing for Dublin or the east coast today or over the next few days.

barneyrub · 14-06-2020 4:11pm

Almost an hour of thunder in Sligo and rain just starting now

watlantic · 14-06-2020 4:15pm

Sunny spells here near Westport now, rel. humidity down to 78% from a max. of 99% late morning. Intermittently breezy (northerly) now with a max. gust of 27.2 kts. Very dark skies to the S and SW.
A splash of sky overhead towards SE taken a short while ago:

Rikand · 14-06-2020 4:24pm

2 lovely big cells north and south of athlone that'll be sparking soon enough I'd say

All the action is out wesht of us. We just get to watch it form

thecretinhop · 14-06-2020 4:27pm

galway getting nothing

pad199207 · 14-06-2020 4:38pm

Sligo a short while ago

Comhrá · 14-06-2020 4:45pm

The show seems to be over now for anywhere away from West Kerry and the Northwest. Bit of a bust for the rest of the country, tbh.

Discodog · 14-06-2020 4:45pm

Interesting that all the activity seems to be along the West Coast

watlantic · 14-06-2020 4:46pm

Further to my previous post, it is getting darker here (Westport) and distant thunder can be heard to the south:

While it still a lot brighter overhead with a few sunny spells, it seems we might get caught in the middle and just could get a mighty clash soon as it appears to be approaching from both N-NE and S-SW.
Looking N:

StringerBell · 14-06-2020 4:59pm

I assume given where the reports are coming from today i.e. the Wesht and the North that in the South East we will be missing out this time around?

Xenji · 14-06-2020 5:02pm

Thunder has returned again to Castlebar and has brought some much needed rain with it this time.

km79 · 14-06-2020 5:20pm

Thunder lightening and very heavy shower in Ballinrobe

pauldry · 14-06-2020 5:21pm

Bucketed down rain in Screen and Beltra.
Thunder and Lightning too. Fork Lightning as well.
In Sligo town barely any rain

At an estimate I'd say

Screen 15mm
Ballisidare 3mma
Sligo 0.5mm

squarecircles · 14-06-2020 5:23pm

Comhra wrote: »

The show seems to be over now for anywhere away from West Kerry and the Northwest. Bit of a bust for the rest of the country, tbh.

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Bit of a bust in the west also, the thunderstorms have formed into a shower train following the mountains, mostly uninhabited areas. Just rumbling away since early afternoon to the south, very irritating.

Storm 10 · 14-06-2020 5:26pm

Distant rumble of Thunder Galway City

sweet_trip · 14-06-2020 5:30pm

A couple of questions for those who know the technical side of things better:

Are there specific corridors the conditions for thunder and lightening form in Ireland? Or can it form pretty much anywhere over irish or atlantic sea.

How do our mountains and rivers effect it?

watlantic · 14-06-2020 5:38pm

Curtains up, the show is starting in Westport with rain and a few flashes and rumbles. Hoping for an extended programme and a few encores...:D
Edit 15 mins later: That was only the soundcheck, but I hope they'll be on stage later. Got 2,8 mm, which won't do for the garden. Not giving up hope yet, even though the sun is making an appearance now.

highdef · 14-06-2020 6:05pm

Probably a good time to post this as it's busy here..... It's lightning, not lightening.

pad199207 · 14-06-2020 6:08pm

highdef wrote: »

Probably a good time to post this as it's busy here..... It's lightning, not lightening.

Well when ya have people saying ‘Whesht’ for West what hope have we got

watlantic · 14-06-2020 6:08pm

highdef wrote: »

Probably a good time to post this as it's busy here..... It's lightning, not lightening.

...unless you're going to give birth. :rolleyes:

Gonzo · 14-06-2020 6:09pm

unfortunately with thunder forecasts for Ireland, they quite often die a death or just don't happen. I reckon last night was the main event and that was limited to mostly southern coastal regions. A few sparks today in western areas, however there is the still the possibility these thunderstorms will become more significant in the far west over the next few hours.

risk of more storms tomorrow but probably slightly less of a risk than today.

Discodog · 14-06-2020 6:12pm

The Old Radar can't cope with the lightning :pac:

http://archive.met.ie/latest/rainfall_radar.asp

squarecircles · 14-06-2020 6:14pm

Gonzo wrote: »

unfortunately with thunder forecasts for Ireland, they quite often die a death or just don't happen. I reckon last night was the main event and that was limited to mostly southern coastal regions. A few sparks today in western areas, however there is the still the possibility these thunderstorms will become more significant in the far west over the next few hours.

risk of more storms tomorrow but probably slightly less of a risk than today.

A few sparks,??? have you seen the radar and lightning returns!?

Trust you to pour cold water on it.

pad199207 · 14-06-2020 6:17pm

Gonzo wrote: »

unfortunately with thunder forecasts for Ireland, they quite often die a death or just don't happen. I reckon last night was the main event and that was limited to mostly southern coastal regions. A few sparks today in western areas, however there is the still the possibility these thunderstorms will become more significant in the far west over the next few hours.

risk of more storms tomorrow but probably slightly less of a risk than today.

Yeah I agree about last night. Would take a good bit now to match those storms in the SE.

Really was a fantastic surprise.

redsteveireland · 14-06-2020 6:18pm

I think expectations were too high after the excitement of last night.

Comhrá · 14-06-2020 6:20pm

highdef wrote: »

Probably a good time to post this as it's busy here..... It's lightning, not lightening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2015/09/08/the-most-misspelled-word-in-weather-lightning-its-not-lightening/

Gonzo · 14-06-2020 6:22pm

squarecircles wrote: »

A few sparks,??? have you seen the radar and lightning returns!?

Trust you to pour cold water on it.

not really pouring cold water on it just saying how it is. There was considerable potential today for a large part of the country and it just hasn't happened. Quite a few of us were expecting thunderstorms on the scale of last night's event through midland areas, many western and northern areas so considering the potential it has been dissapointing. I was never really expecting anything here in the east but was hoping that we would have had several major storms by now in several parts of the country, was looking forward to seeing more videos etc. It is rare for Ireland to have potential on the scale of today and it just hasn't really delivered yet. There is still time to get a decent storm going over the next few hours but if I was living in the midlands I would be very disappointed with today's efforts considering what could have been.

Humberto Salazar · 14-06-2020 6:28pm

Gonzo wrote: »

not really pouring cold water on it just saying how it is. There was considerable potential today for a large part of the country and it just hasn't happened. Quite a few of us were expecting thunderstorms on the scale of last night's event through midland areas, many western and northern areas so considering the potential it has been dissapointing. I was never really expecting anything here in the east but was hoping that we would have had several major storms by now in several parts of the country, was looking forward to seeing more videos etc. It is rare for Ireland to have potential on the scale of today and it just hasn't really delivered yet. There is still time to get a decent storm going over the next few hours but if I was living in the midlands I would be very disappointed with today's efforts considering what could have been.

The old weather knowledge about local thunderstorms, is that if they don't form by around three o clock, it's unlikely to happen. And in Offaly today while there was a few spits of rain, and greying skies briefly late afternoon, there was never going to be be thunderstorms. They are fickle things. I'd argue equal with a good snowfall is a good thunderstorm and hence why we all look forward to those events, and get disappointed when they bust.

PukkaStukka · 14-06-2020 6:29pm

Gerry Murphy on RTE1 said there is a possibility of sparks in North Leinster. Presuming the showers coming in off the Irish sea could erupt overland?

Oneiric 3 · 14-06-2020 6:30pm

Today was pathetic, thankful for the earlier thunder and lightning show but a lousy 1.0mm here today and that'll probably be it for here until next weekend at least.

Gaoth Laidir · 14-06-2020 6:47pm

Today was a very active day for Ireland. Not sure why people are saying it wasn't. It was always going to be a mostly west and northwest event today and that's exactly how it turned out, but with the southwest also putting in a shift. The east was never on for thunderstorms and was never forecast to be. I'm still hoping that the Welsh terrain can do us a favour and kick something up for us here but I'm not holding my breath.

And I'm glad someone finally mentioned the spelling elephant in the room. Not that it will do any good as people will still continue on with the e regardless.

Gonzo · 14-06-2020 6:49pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Today was pathetic, thankful for the earlier thunder and lightning show but a lousy 1.0mm here today and that'll probably be it for here until next weekend at least.

I almost feel annoyed with how poor today has performed. Not expecting anything here in the east as usual but I've got relations and friends in the midlands, some of whom are farmers and I told them about today's potential for thunderstorms and the chance of some very heavy rainfall at times if caught under the storms. They are still looking at brown grass, no rain and no thunder and they are kinda wondering what I was going on about!

What annoys me the most is when the charts show similar potential over England and wales you can be guaranteed it delivers and often exceeds expectations. I was really hoping that for once we could have a day similar to that over a large part of Ireland and it just hasn't happened. Perhaps last night's storm in the South-east completely warped what I was expecting on a wider scale today, but it is hard to hide the disappointment. Of course there is still time for somewhere to get something special over the next few hours, but the main potential was this afternoon and early evening.

I reckon the decrease in temperatures across much of the south, east and midlands from the early afternoon has played a part of decreasing the storm risk. From a rainfall perspective the majority of the country is bone dry today. There is still potential for tomorrow but you have to wonder will we even have showers tomorrow in the first place.

km79 · 14-06-2020 6:51pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Today was pathetic, thankful for the earlier thunder and lightning show but a lousy 1.0mm here today and that'll probably be it for here until next weekend at least.

You live the wrong side of the border

igCorcaigh · 14-06-2020 6:54pm

https://twitter.com/Colleen76418830/status/1272199701090177027?s=19

SophieLockhart · 14-06-2020 6:54pm

10.4mm in just an hour at Finner, wow.

Meteorite58 · 14-06-2020 6:57pm

Not too shabby I reckon and still going in the W. Never got going in the midlands or the S , Just goes to show the unpredictable nature of thunderstorm development. But I must say that we had one of the best storms that I can ever remember here in Kerry, ended up with 25mm , very hit and miss as is the nature of these events. Plenty more to come up to and including Weds and looks like the midlands, SE and E will feature more over the coming days.

I thought Met Eireanns Lightning Radar was good today, Blitzortung really under showed the storm that went over here, wouldn't be surprised if it missed the lightning discharges by about 40 or 50 to 1.

A lot of Positive Cloud to Ground strikes registered in the storm that went over here.

https://twitter.com/Meteorite58/status/1272168616184688642?s=20

Little snowy old me · 14-06-2020 7:07pm

Pity Dublin will get nothing these next few days.

Oneiric 3 · 14-06-2020 7:09pm

Gonzo wrote: »

I almost feel annoyed with how poor today has performed. Not expecting anything here in the east as usual but I've got relations and friends in the midlands, some of whom are farmers and I told them about today's potential for thunderstorms and the chance of some very heavy rainfall at times if caught under the storms. They are still looking at brown grass, no rain and no thunder and they are kinda wondering what I was going on about!

What annoys me the most is when the charts show similar potential over England and wales you can be guaranteed it delivers and often exceeds expectations. I was really hoping that for once we could have a day similar to that over a large part of Ireland and it just hasn't happened. Perhaps last night's storm in the South-east completely warped what I was expecting on a wider scale today, but it is hard to hide the disappointment. Of course there is still time for somewhere to get something special over the next few hours, but the main potential was this afternoon and early evening.

I reckon the decrease in temperatures across much of the south, east and midlands from the early afternoon has played a part of decreasing the storm risk. From a rainfall perspective the majority of the country is bone dry today. There is still potential for tomorrow but you have to wonder will we even have showers tomorrow in the first place.

There will be showers around the next few days, maybe some isolated local downpours, and we can only hope they won't prove to be as poor as showing as today's lame efforts.

alchemist33 · 14-06-2020 7:10pm

SophieLockhart wrote: »

10.4mm in just an hour at Finner, wow.

Still a lovely day further north in the county.

Little snowy old me · 14-06-2020 7:12pm

North Sligo and South Donegal are having a spectacular storm for the last 3 hours. Torrential rain and continuous lightning.

rovers_runner · 14-06-2020 7:13pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Today was a very active day for Ireland. Not sure why people are saying it wasn't. It was always going to be a mostly west and northwest event today and that's exactly how it turned out, but with the southwest also putting in a shift. The east was never on for thunderstorms and was never forecast to be. I'm still hoping that the Welsh terrain can do us a favour and kick something up for us here but I'm not holding my breath.

And I'm glad someone finally mentioned the spelling elephant in the room. Not that it will do any good as people will still continue on with the e regardless.

If it doesn't affect Dublin it doesn't happen according to some "experts".
We were up in Mullaghmore there and had some treat looking across the bay.

NIMAN · 14-06-2020 7:20pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Still a lovely day further north in the county.

Glorious all day in North Donegal.

What I wouldn't give for a good downpour later, new grass seed in a month ago.

Little snowy old me · 14-06-2020 7:28pm

Tomorrow must be looking good if Met Eireann are already issuing advisories for thunderstorms.

Meteorite58 · 14-06-2020 7:37pm

Parameters there for some good thunderstorms tomorrow, getting nice and warm and very high Dp's should kick some storms off in the afternoon.

Skew T chart for near Abbeylara Co Longford at 14.00

No expert, only a learner. Thinking the area highlighted will have the best chance of seeing thunderstorms, could have some outside that area also.

spookwoman · 14-06-2020 7:45pm

to show intensity of lightning here in waterford 5 shots stacked of the same place over a few mins. I haven't seen a lightning storm like that since the 80's in the midlands.

squarecircles · 14-06-2020 7:47pm

oh this is a new departure from met eireann,now including northern ireland in warnings,how interesting.

Northern Ireland Warnings

Yellow - Thunderstorm Warning for Armagh, Fermanagh, Tyrone, Derry
UK Met Office Weather Warning (www.metoffice.gov.uk)

Thunderstorms expected to form over parts of Northern Ireland this afternoon

Valid: 13:00 Sunday 14/06/2020 to 21:00 Sunday 14/06/2020

Issued: 19:10 Sunday 14/06/2020

Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : Spring/Summer 2020

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