Do you think movies these days are mostly garbage

Daz_ · 24-11-2020 12:32pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

It was a great film. That's all. No need to be rated, under or over or otherwise.

Yeah you already said that in your post.

And as it’s my opinion , I will say what ever I want about the film
Thanks

silverharp · 24-11-2020 12:38pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Oh, you’re just not in touch with new music when you begin to think there’s nothing new anymore. I’ll bet lots of genres were decades old before they actually took off and even more genres sit on the fringe and never become popular.

Irish rap has gotten bigger. British grime music has gotten much bigger in recent years. But I’m not really plugged into these things either.

there is always something I guess but had I been my grumpy old self in the 80's, it would have easy to spot the changes, grime or cadi b singing about her pussy isnt progress

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 12:55pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

Great films released in the last two - three years include:

The Gentlemen
I, Tonya
Parasite
Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
Baby Driver
Isle of Dogs
Vice
Blackkklansman
Paddington 2
1917

Of what I have seen I,Tonya is excellent and 1917 too for very different reasons.

Parasite and Blackkklansman are well worth a watch but not as good as the reviews I read thought of them. Klansman in particular has nothing really new or revelatory unless you go into it clueless about the KKK.

Haven't seen the rest yet

Stihl waters · 24-11-2020 12:59pm

Blackklansman is the worst movie I've watched this year so far

Greyfox · 24-11-2020 1:00pm

Yeah movie quality has dropped but its not as bad as the decline of great music, a few good films do get released each year but 10/10 films are almost non existent but its hardly surprising considering tv series are now overall a better medium. I want to make more of an effort to look for the good stuff but its hard when theres so much free films available these days

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 1:04pm

silverharp wrote: »

there is always something I guess but had I been my grumpy old self in the 80's, it would have easy to spot the changes, grime or cadi b singing about her pussy isnt progress

I doubt old people in the 20s thought Jazz was progress, nor the old people in the 60s thought rock was progress, nor did the old people in the 80s to think Punk was progress. Music changes and old people always think it’s moving in the wrong direction. That’s just how it works.

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 1:09pm

Stihl waters wrote: »

Blackklansman is the worst movie I've watched this year so far

What didnt you like about it?

Dyr · 24-11-2020 1:36pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I doubt old people in the 20s thought Jazz was progress, nor the old people in the 60s thought rock was progress, nor did the old people in the 80s to think Punk was progress. Music changes and old people always think it’s moving in the wrong direction. That’s just how it works.

Not true, people happily moved onto whatever kids were listening to, but new music now seems to be a derivitive rehash or written by an algorithim

Mister Vain · 24-11-2020 1:41pm

Music doesn't mean anything now. It just exists.

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 2:01pm

Bambi wrote: »

Not true, people happily moved onto whatever kids were listening to, but new music now seems to be a derivitive rehash or written by an algorithim

That's complete rubbish, people did not move on to what the kids were into and there isn't a hope older people in the 80s were listening to Madonna getting "touched for the very first time"

I work with the elderly and they all listen to the music they liked when they were young and not one 80yo is throwing on Frankie goes to Hollywood.

And most music over the last 100 years was made by teams of people who would match songs, music and singers together, Bob Dylans first album was unusual in the fact that the writer was singing his own songs the way he wanted them to sound

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 2:08pm

Mister Vain wrote: »

Music doesn't mean anything now. It just exists.

Ya all that Cliff Richard stuff was so deep with meaning.

Most Rock & Roll and Motown was nonsense about "sweethearts" disco and the 80s pop was no better

MsStote · 24-11-2020 2:21pm

Something I have talked about recently. I am finding that they are all carbon copies if you look at mainstream American movies. Indie can be great or terrible, no inbetween lol. I am finding Korean movies are excellent.
I like Prime and Netflix own movies, they can be interesting.

Dyr · 24-11-2020 2:26pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

That's complete rubbish, people did not move on to what the kids were into and there isn't a hope older people in the 80s were listening to Madonna getting "touched for the very first time"

I work with the elderly and they all listen to the music they liked when they were young and not one 80yo is throwing on Frankie goes to Hollywood.

And most music over the last 100 years was made by teams of people who would match songs, music and singers together, Bob Dylans first album was unusual in the fact that the writer was singing his own songs the way he wanted them to sound

Plenty of people from the 50s, 60s and 70s were into Madonna and Michael Jackson.

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 2:28pm

Bambi wrote: »

Plenty of people from the 50s, 60s and 70s were into Madonna and Michael Jackson.

What do you mean from the 70s ?
People from the 70s are almost too young for MJ and Madonna and people from the 60s are the correct age.

ABC was released in 1970

readyletsgo · 24-11-2020 2:32pm

Watched 'Beast' (2018) the other week, amazing!
Watched 'Bug' (2006) at the weekend, brilliant, kinda relevant for these times in a way.
'Take Shelter' (2011) is incredible, same actor in 'Bug' (Michael Shannon)

New Film on Netflix called 'Hillbilly Elegy' Out today I think which looks right up my street, i'll watch that tonight

Ya just gotta dig for good movies now. Sure the Marvel and DC movies are perfect brain fart popcorn movies, I like them, easy, but there is more than Hollywood out there, great European movies out there too being made over the last 10 years.

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 2:35pm

Anyone know where I can find the Belgian film "Patrick" ?

The reviews just said multiple streaming platforms but it's not on any of the big ones

Rothko · 24-11-2020 2:38pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

It was a great film. That's all. No need to be rated, under or over or otherwise.

That last sentence doesn't really make much sense.

topper75 · 24-11-2020 2:49pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

... nor did the old people in the 80s to think Punk was progress. ...

Nor should they have.
The punks themselves didn't even think that. Wasn't really the point

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Dyr · 24-11-2020 3:00pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

What do you mean from the 70s ?
People from the 70s are almost too young for MJ and Madonna and people from the 60s are the correct age.

ABC was released in 1970

People who were listening to music in the 50s 60s 70s

bit weird to have the join the dots for someone to that degree tbh

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 3:04pm

Bambi wrote: »

People who were listening to music in the 50s 60s 70s

bit weird to have the join the dots for someone to that degree tbh

No it's not tbh. If you say people from the 60s that usually means people born in the 60s.

Saying people from the 60s meaning people who were listening to music in the 60s is dumb as anyone in the 60s from the age of 5 to 85 was listening to music in the 60s

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 3:44pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Sure. It was aimed at you. I have a couple of movies from my childhood that i still enjoy too. If they came out for the first time in the cinema today i wouldn't be bothered with them because they're children's movies. I enjoy them because i have positive associations with them from my childhood. If you really, really, really enjoyed Ghostbusters if you saw it for the first time today as a 40 year old (for example), then you'd be in a very small minority because it was mostly a children's movie with a couple of adult themes thrown in to entertain the adults.

Nonsense. If the original Ghostbusters came out today it would be a huge hit. It’s a great movie. The Wokebusters was awful and deserved to sink, hopefully never to darken our screens again.

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 3:53pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

Great films released in the last two - three years include:

The Gentlemen
I, Tonya
Parasite
Once Upon a Time In Hollywood
Baby Driver
Isle of Dogs
Vice
Blackkklansman
Paddington 2
1917

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was dross.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 4:21pm

Bambi wrote: »

Not true, people happily moved onto whatever kids were listening to, but new music now seems to be a derivitive rehash or written by an algorithim

Ah here, old people did not move into punk in the 80s. There were organised protests against rock and jazz because they were harbingers of the downfall of moral standards.

The notion that old people liked the music you listened to when you were young, is guff. They generally hated it and thought it had little innovation and adds no value, just as you’ll most likely describe today’s music.

If it was approved by old people, then young people wouldn’t bother it. If the music your generation listened to was approved by old people at the time, then it wouldn’t have become popular with young people to begin with.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 4:25pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Nonsense. If the original Ghostbusters came out today it would be a huge hit. It’s a great movie. The Wokebusters was awful and deserved to sink, hopefully never to darken our screens again.

You really think so? Children might like it if it came out for the first time today, adults might tolerate it if they brought the kids to see it in ty cinema. But the idea that you would like a children’s movie as much as an adult as you did when you were a child, is pretty unlikely. Can you think of many other new childrens’ movies that you liked in the last few years?

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 4:27pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ah here, old people did not move into punk in the 80s. There were organised protests against rock and jazz because they were harbingers of the downfall of moral standards.

The notion that old people liked the music you listened to when you were young, is guff. They generally hated it and thought it had little innovation and adds no value, just as you’ll most likely describe today’s music.

If it was approved by old people, then young people wouldn’t bother it. If the music your generation listened to was approved by old people at the time, then it wouldn’t have become popular with young people to begin with.

Yep. Elvis was gonna be the downfall of society with his hips and his "black people" music then it was the hippies then the punks, rockers, glam, scantily clad pop girls, rap, metal, grime and so on.

All were rejected and even had attempted bans by the older generations of their time.

Eminem even draws a line from Elvis to himself in Slim Shady

Skittlebrau · 24-11-2020 4:29pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Anyone know where I can find the Belgian film "Patrick" ?

The reviews just said multiple streaming platforms but it's not on any of the big ones

IFI at Home

Watched it the other night. Quirky but enjoyed it.

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 4:35pm

Skittlebrau wrote: »

IFI at Home

Watched it the other night. Quirky but enjoyed it.

Does anyone hang dong ?

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 5:13pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Yep. Elvis was gonna be the downfall of society with his hips and his "black people" music then it was the hippies then the punks, rockers, glam, scantily clad pop girls, rap, metal, grime and so on.

All were rejected and even had attempted bans by the older generations of their time.

Eminem even draws a line from Elvis to himself in Slim Shady

And the Conservatives in the UK played this card once again in one of the recent elections (maybe 2017) with Grime music. They said it was associates with crime and blackness and all those things that old people are afraid of. And it worked.

The notion that old people thought new music was good up to right now, is fanciful. Old people today are not unique snowflakes with a much more discerning ear than all future generations. They’re just playing the same record that all old people seem to grow to love, “They don’t make’m like they used to” with the bonus track “things were better back in my day”

Tony EH · 24-11-2020 5:38pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

And the Conservatives in the UK played this card once again in one of the recent elections (maybe 2017) with Grime music. They said it was associates with crime and blackness and all those things that old people are afraid of. And it worked.

Jesus that's terrible. I bet she never saw that coming. :pac:

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 7:10pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You really think so? Children might like it if it came out for the first time today, adults might tolerate it if they brought the kids to see it in ty cinema. But the idea that you would like a children’s movie as much as an adult as you did when you were a child, is pretty unlikely. Can you think of many other new childrens’ movies that you liked in the last few years?

Elf, Frozen, Frozen 2, Beauty and the Beast remake was excellent. The Cars franchise is excellent. Moana. That’s off the top of my head.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 7:14pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Elf, Frozen, Frozen 2, Beauty and the Beast remake was excellent. The Cars franchise is excellent. Moana. That’s off the top of my head.

And you were big fans of these movies personally? Like the way you liked Ghostbusters?

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 7:16pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

And you were big fans of these movies personally? Like the way you liked Ghostbusters?

Yeah, lost count of the times I’ve seen Elf and Moana. I’ve no kids so I’m not forced to watch them. There are loads of great kids movies out there.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 7:19pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Yeah, lost count of the times I’ve seen Elf and Moana. I’ve no kids so I’m not forced to watch them. There are loads of great kids movies out there.

Fair one. Would you say your interest in childrens’ movies is common? For example if most of your friends loved Ghostbusters as children, would you say most of them also love Elf and Moana as adults?

FunLover18 · 24-11-2020 7:26pm

The Pixar movies are all "children's films" and I love them and I know plenty of people my age (30) who feel the same. I would say it's very common for people of all ages to enjoy children's movies.

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 7:27pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Fair one. Would you say your interest in childrens’ movies is common? For example if most of your friends loved Ghostbusters as children, would you say most of them also love Elf and Moana as adults?

I’ve never met anyone who didn’t love Elf.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 7:28pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

The Pixar movies are all "children's films" and I love them and I know plenty of people my age (30) who feel the same. I would say it's very common for people of all ages to enjoy children's movies.

But surely not as common as it is for children to love childrens’ movies.

El_Duderino 09 · 24-11-2020 7:29pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’ve never met anyone who didn’t love Elf.

Ah here.

FunLover18 · 24-11-2020 7:29pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

But surely not as common as it is for children to love childrens’ movies.

I would say it's probably even given there are more adults in the world than children.

FunLover18 · 24-11-2020 7:30pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’ve never met anyone who didn’t love Elf.

Yeh I'm not a fan although I don't really know what it's doing in this conversation, is it a children's film?

Fuzzyduzzy · 24-11-2020 7:31pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

I’ve never met anyone who didn’t love Elf.

Just watched this with the family last night

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 7:31pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

But surely not as common as it is for children to love childrens’ movies.

Why are some children’s movies bigger box office than others? If adults were just paying for what kids liked i’m sure profits would be more evenly spread.

weldoninhio · 24-11-2020 7:33pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Yeh I'm not a fan although I don't really know what it's doing in this conversation, is it a children's film?

Is a PG film, about an Elf, and the spirit of Xmas, that’s shown every Christmas on prime children’s tv a children’s film?? I’m not sure. It’s a mystery.

FunLover18 · 24-11-2020 7:48pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Is a PG film, about an Elf, and the spirit of Xmas, that’s shown every Christmas on prime children’s tv a children’s film?? I’m not sure. It’s a mystery.

Admittedly I've only seen it once a long time ago, I could name a few PG films that aren't children's films. I wouldn't have thought of Elf as one but that just kinda proves your point that it can be enjoyed by all ages.

breezy1985 · 24-11-2020 8:03pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

And you were big fans of these movies personally? Like the way you liked Ghostbusters?

Frozen is probably way bigger than ghostbusters. There's a cinema in London sells out 2 showings every Saturday one for kids and one for adults.

Whatever about those other movies your on a losing battle with Frozen we are gonna be seeing that on TV every Christmas for 30 years

FunLover18 · 24-11-2020 8:11pm

breezy1985 wrote: »

Frozen is probably way bigger than ghostbusters. There's a cinema in London sells out 2 showings every Saturday one for kids and one for adults.

Whatever about those other movies your on a losing battle with Frozen we are gonna be seeing that on TV every Christmas for 30 years

You're right it's a losing battle, they should just ... let it go

(Someone had to)

Tony EH · 24-11-2020 8:44pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Yeah, lost count of the times I’ve seen Elf and Moana. I’ve no kids so I’m not forced to watch them. There are loads of great kids movies out there.

I wouldn't class 'Elf' as a children's film. Nor would I consider the likes of 'Toy Story' so either. I would count them just as comedies. They are well written, with smart wit, that can appeal to an adult easily.

Something like 'Moana' or 'Frozen' would be a kids movie.

I think 'Elf' is the only Wil Ferell film that I can watch and he was pretty much perfect in it. It loses steam well before the end though. But the stuff in the first two acts is gas. Him running into the coffee shop in New York and congratulating the bemused staff because they it had a sign outside saying "World's Best Coffee" is brilliant.

And something like 'Toy Story' was just genius and the trilogy never gets old. There's more than enough humour in there that an adult can enjoy. Wasn't a fan of No.4 though. Utterly pointless add on.

Lewis_Benson · 24-11-2020 8:56pm

Hqrry113 wrote: »

For me as someone who hates action/comedy movies and can only watch movies that have a good story drama/thrillers I find the films these days mostly mediocre with a few exceptions, there are a lot of good movies that have been made in the last 5-10 years but the quantity and quality of good movies has decreased dramatically over these years probably because it's far easier to make a basic action flick or a comedy than it is to make a decent movie.

Although if you're a big action/comedy fan you probably wouldn't have noticed as it's probably a golden age of movies for them genres.

Its pronounced "fillum"
And its not Garbage, its SHYTE!

Randy Archer · 26-11-2020 10:04am

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Oh, you’re just not in touch with new music when you begin to think there’s nothing new anymore. I’ll bet lots of genres were decades old before they actually took off and even more genres sit on the fringe and never become popular.

Irish rap has gotten bigger. British grime music has gotten much bigger in recent years. But I’m not really plugged into these things either.

Irish rap ? Oh dear god . And grime music ....ghastly. The council estate peasants arise (worse, people from superior backgrounds dumb down and pretend they are poor and thick to gain street cred)

Grime is not music

El_Duderino 09 · 26-11-2020 10:40am

Randy Archer wrote: »

Irish rap ? Oh dear god . And grime music ....ghastly. The council estate peasants arise (worse, people from superior backgrounds dumb down and pretend they are poor and thick to gain street cred)

Grime is not music

You might clutch your pearls and call it ghastly, but that’s not really the point. The question was whether there was any new music anymore and the answer is, yes. Old people aren’t supposed to like new music.

I’m not a big fan of either genre, but I’ll avoid the trap of ageing where people think new things don’t exist or are “ghastly”

breezy1985 · 26-11-2020 10:47am

Randy Archer wrote: »

Irish rap ? Oh dear god . And grime music ....ghastly. The council estate peasants arise (worse, people from superior backgrounds dumb down and pretend they are poor and thick to gain street cred)

Grime is not music

Judging by your utter snobbery I'm gonna guess you were never into any relevant music even when you were young or if you were you were not listening very closely

Do you think movies these days are mostly garbage

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