Tour of Afghanistan in India 2019

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:09am

BarryD2 wrote: »

Why is this the decider though Kev. Thought there was a 5th match on Sunday?

Clearly I am an idiot. Thought this was the final ODI. Carry on so.

164/7 after 40.

They could easily add another 100 here unless we get wickets.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 11:13am

172/7 41

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 11:14am

KevIRL wrote: »

Clearly I am an idiot. Thought this was the final ODI. Carry on so.

164/7 after 40.

They could easily add another 100 here unless we get wickets.

Ah, thought maybe it'd been cancelled

Yep our death bowling is not always the best. Think if they start throwing the bat though, they mightn't get to 50?

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:20am

Nabi 50. 182/7 43

Joe_ Public · 08-03-2019 11:20am

Going be looking at a 250+ chase if they don’t tidy this up. Will be a challenge i think.

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 11:27am

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Going be looking at a 250+ chase if they don’t tidy this up. Will be a challenge i think.

Yep, you'd have to hand it to the Afghans. They've done well after a ropey start.

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:28am

15 off 45th over - 200/7

lambayire · 08-03-2019 11:31am

here we go again :mad::mad:

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 11:33am

This is pathetic. The series was there to be won. The captain is rubbish why has Stirling or KOB not been used to try and break these partnerships.

We'll be 29/3 after 10 overs!

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:35am

Nabi out

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 11:36am

bout time

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:40am

Alam out for 0

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:41am

wicorthered wrote: »

This is pathetic. The series was there to be won. The captain is rubbish why has Stirling or KOB not been used to try and break these partnerships.

We'll be 29/3 after 10 overs!

tbf, we've often seen KOB late overs go for 20+ and questioned the wisdom of sticking him in. Its part of the modern game that teams can bat down the order

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:42am

Kahn 50. 220/9 with two overs left.

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:46am

KevIRL wrote: »

Kahn 50. 220/9 with two overs left.

Murtagh final over goes for just 3.

223/9 going into last over

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 11:47am

done

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:48am

Kahn gone first ball final over

224 the target. Well done bowlers

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 11:49am

that's a very gettable target

probably 91 all out in an hour tho

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 11:51am

KevIRL wrote: »

tbf, we've often seen KOB late overs go for 20+ and questioned the wisdom of sticking him in. Its part of the modern game that teams can bat down the order

I'm not saying KOB should be bowling death overs. Completely agree he gets smashed about. He has a handy knack of picking up wickets though and I would have thrown him the ball for an over or 2 when those partnerships were getting set. These guys play spin well so their lower order are probably more comfortable against our spinners than medium pacers.

All being said we'd have taken that at the start but from 81/6, they've 40/50 more than we'd have hoped. Going to be a tight run chase. Hopefully Porterfield is due a knock.

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 11:52am

Lot of work to do. We were beating the bat a bit and if we can do that, well then I reckon it's going to be tough enough for our lads.

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 11:53am

Need to keep the head steady and build a few partnership. No need to be going nuts early on chasing that total

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 11:59am

Not sure why you'd pick Singh and not throw him the ball. Porterfield for me is very conservative. Seems happy to see the scoreboard ticking away at 3/4 an over. I think he forgets the slog overs come at the end!

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 12:22pm

wicorthered wrote: »

Not sure why you'd pick Singh and not throw him the ball. Porterfield for me is very conservative. Seems happy to see the scoreboard ticking away at 3/4 an over. I think he forgets the slog overs come at the end!

He'd want at least to be getting a few more runs to justify his place? Would I be right in thinking he's only averaged 3 or 4 in last half dozen matches?

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 12:49pm

19/0 after 5 overs

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 12:51pm

Porterfield in double digits, he better be careful he doesn't get a nosebleed

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 12:52pm

Porterfield out after three consecutive fours

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 12:52pm

lol, jesus christ

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 12:56pm

Balbirnie out

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 1:00pm

Two soft wickets, you'd have to say.

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 1:01pm

Its the hope that kills ya!

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 1:01pm

Stirling out

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 08-03-2019 1:01pm

are we england in disguise

VillaMad · 08-03-2019 1:01pm

Stirling out stumped.

lambayire · 08-03-2019 1:02pm

Standard 33/3

Stirling out stumped on a really tight call.
I reckon he has a stud behind the line.

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 1:03pm

I wasn't too far off with 29/3. Same problem every game. Can't finish teams off in the field can't see off the new ball. No wonder Khan has such record against us. He bowls at the tail!

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 1:03pm

Thought we'd struggle, but... self imposed.

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 1:14pm

Maiden over and 36/3 after 10

VillaMad · 08-03-2019 1:21pm

Short ball pulled for four by Singh and a couple of balls later he cuts it for another 4. 46-3.

Advantage for these two is that they can take plenty of time to get in, chasing a below par score. No need to take risks at this stage.

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 1:22pm

It's a subject I keep repeating but what do the batting coaches and selectors actually do?

The batsmen haven't a clue against the spinners. Not just these spinners but every spinner they face. It's rabbits in headlights all the time. I know coaching alone can't transform people into world class talent. But surely some coaching can mitigate these consistent top order collapses. Can they not come up with a plan to keep Mujeeb out for the first 10 overs. I'm sick of seeing Mujeeb 5-2-7-2 after 10 overs. You can't recover from that every game.

We've lost our 3rd wicket at 14, 29 and 33 in these 3 games. The fourth wickets were 35 and 73 so far. It's pathetic batting. Why has McCollum or Tucker not been given a chance? In what world is Simi Singh a number 4. The selectors won't give youth a chance. I'd prefer to be beaten trying to plan for the future then be beaten just standing still. McCarthy has a brilliant strike rate and we won't play him. Why won't they pick a bowler that takes wickets?

Why have we gone on an international tour and had no warm up games? When was the last 50 over game these guys played? When was the last 4 day game? You can't compete with that preparation.

Bracewell and Ford were veteran coaches with their best days behind them. They picked up easy money from CI. A young up and coming coach with fresh innovative ideas and belief in youth should have got the job!

CI chased the test match dream to the detriment of Irish Cricket. They backed a dying format over investing in young players that would bring the T20 and 50 over teams forward. T20 is the future, CI completely ignored it!

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 1:34pm

wicorthered wrote: »

CI chased the test match dream to the detriment of Irish Cricket. They backed a dying format over investing in young players that would bring the T20 and 50 over teams forward. T20 is the future, CI completely ignored it!

Team does have a legacy look about it now. I dunno about above, if T20 is the future of cricket, the game would become a parody.

That said, our strengths do clearly lie more in the shorter formats where we've been playing for years. I can't see us getting anywhere in test cricket - we just don't have the bowling attack that's needed. And arguably the patience required for batting in that format. They're such different games that you'd think with our limited resources, we'd need to focus on one.

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 1:39pm

62/3 18

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 1:43pm

Simi out

riffmongous · 08-03-2019 1:44pm

4 down now

KevIRL · 08-03-2019 1:48pm

68/4 20

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 1:48pm

Yer man Rashid is enjoying this, just a matter of time you feel. Kevin still there but he doesn't look very fluid.

wicorthered · 08-03-2019 1:49pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

Team does have a legacy look about it now. I dunno about above, if T20 is the future of cricket, the game would become a parody.

That said, our strengths do clearly lie more in the shorter formats where we've been playing for years. I can't see us getting anywhere in test cricket - we just don't have the bowling attack that's needed. And arguably the patience required for batting in that format. They're such different games that you'd think with our limited resources, we'd need to focus on one.

The crowds and the money are all in T20. Money talks at the end of the day. Look at the amount of people that have more or less retired from red ball cricket to play T20 stuff. Tests will continue to lose relevance as the big name players focus on making money in the franchise leagues

riffmongous · 08-03-2019 1:53pm

The issue was though that test cricket is so firmly tied to membership status as a top country and the extra money and rights that comes with it.. of course the ICC still screwed us on that in the end by limiting the world cup to 10 teams

BarryD2 · 08-03-2019 1:55pm

wicorthered wrote: »

The crowds and the money are all in T20. Money talks at the end of the day. Look at the amount of people that have more or less retired from red ball cricket to play T20 stuff. Tests will continue to lose relevance as the big name players focus on making money in the franchise leagues

Well, I'd give up on cricket as a game if it turns to T20. Wham, bam, thank you mam - no thanks.

Tweeter · 08-03-2019 1:57pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

Well, I'd give up on cricket as a game if it turns to T20. Wham, bam, thank you mam - no thanks.

Agreed, T20 shouldn't even be called Cricket

VillaMad · 08-03-2019 2:08pm

I have huge issues with player selection with them not giving younger players a chance and what you will see happen over the next couple of years is the likes of Murtagh, Porterfield, Kevin O'Brien and Boyd Rankin all retiring with only inexperienced players to replace them. The latter three all made their debuts young and although clearly they all had talent, they all had to gain experience.

Eoin Morgan made his debut for Ireland at 16. Obviously he was a world class talent, but why are they so afraid of giving younger guys a chance?

Also, Porterfield seems to be the permanent captain regardless of results or form. I think he is captain now for going on 11 years. At least he gave up the T20 captaincy to Stirling but it's not healthy for anyone to have that set-up.

Tour of Afghanistan in India 2019

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