The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

humberklog · 05-04-2019 11:17am

In fairness that was a good podcast on Delaney.

I was about to give up on The Stand, it was getting too chummy. The silence was deafening on the FAI and although Eamon was getting over surgery he still took the time out to blindly defend Delaney (on other media sources) when the story first broke. He and others went immediately on message defending Delaney.

That's why I like podcasts and listen to them more often than radio these days. There's no hiding place for the presenter. You've got to deliver what you promise the listener and if you don't you'll be quickly found out and dropped. Game over that punter.

Maybe Eamon's producers explained this to him whilst he was recuperating. Podcasts are a different animal- there's no hiding behind Marian Finucane's skirt giggling or faux cursing the restrictions on reporting in INM.

Hopefully Eamon can inquire deeper into Brendan O'Neill's claims and accusations (re Brexit) when he's next on.

dulpit · 05-04-2019 11:50am

humberklog wrote: »

In fairness that was a good podcast on Delaney.

I was about to give up on The Stand, it was getting too chummy. The silence was deafening on the FAI and although Eamon was getting over surgery he still took the time out to blindly defend Delaney (on other media sources) when the story first broke. He and others went immediately on message defending Delaney.

That's why I like podcasts and listen to them more often than radio these days. There's no hiding place for the presenter. You've got to deliver what you promise the listener and if you don't you'll be quickly found out and dropped. Game over that punter.

Maybe Eamon's producers explained this to him whilst he was recuperating. Podcasts are a different animal- there's no hiding behind Marian Finucane's skirt giggling or faux cursing the restrictions on reporting in INM.

Hopefully Eamon can inquire deeper into Brendan O'Neill's claims and accusations (re Brexit) when he's next on.

Agree that his Delaney podcast was very good. Pity he followed it up with the podcast with Bertie :rolleyes:

sportsfan90 · 05-04-2019 12:03pm

dulpit wrote: »

Agree that his Delaney podcast was very good. Pity he followed it up with the podcast with Bertie :rolleyes:

I actually enjoyed the podcast with Bertie. He had a lot of faults and you can say what you wan't about him, but he (amongst others) made a lot of progress in bringing peace to the North on this island, peace that could potentially be threatened if Brexit goes very badly with the introduction of borders etc. And I say that as someone who has never voted FF.

dulpit · 05-04-2019 12:12pm

sportsfan90 wrote: »

I actually enjoyed the podcast with Bertie. He had a lot of faults and you can say what you wan't about him, but he (amongst others) made a lot of progress in bringing peace to the North on this island, peace that could potentially be threatened if Brexit goes very badly with the introduction of borders etc. And I say that as someone who has never voted FF.

I didn't mind Bertie's points, by Dunphy was back to his usual fawning all over his guest...

OldMrBrennan83 · 05-04-2019 10:06pm

sportsfan90 wrote: »

I actually enjoyed the podcast with Bertie. He had a lot of faults and you can say what you wan't about him, but he (amongst others) made a lot of progress in bringing peace to the North on this island, peace that could potentially be threatened if Brexit goes very badly with the introduction of borders etc. And I say that as someone who has never voted FF.

He should be in prison.

sportsfan90 · 05-04-2019 10:21pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

He should be in prison.

I'm not here to defend Bertie's record in office, there's plenty others around the country who do that blindly. Like I said I've never voted FF in my life.

All I'm saying is that on the subject of the North and our relationship with UK, he's someone who's thoughts I'd at least listen to.

applehunter · 06-04-2019 7:24am

Dunphy has Bertie down as a good skin.

Beechwoodspark · 06-04-2019 10:17am

Enjoyed the Delaney podcast

It’s odd. Eamo was almost pro Delaney on RTÉ Marian finucane show a few weeks ago when this first broke. Now he seems to have “fallen into line” and is sceptical to say the least of Delaney.

dulpit · 07-04-2019 9:55am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Enjoyed the Delaney podcast

It’s odd. Eamo was almost pro Delaney on RTÉ Marian finucane show a few weeks ago when this first broke. Now he seems to have “fallen into line” and is sceptical to say the least of Delaney.

To be fair, I don't think Dunphy was very anti-Delaney himself in the pod, but he let the conversation flow with the 2 journos very well.

Beechwoodspark · 07-04-2019 12:24pm

dulpit wrote: »

To be fair, I don't think Dunphy was very anti-Delaney himself in the pod, but he let the conversation flow with the 2 journos very well.

He was quite pro Delaney on RTÉ though. I wonder has he sensed where this is going so did a u turn

Monoke · 07-04-2019 12:28pm

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

He should be in prison.

For breaking which laws?

EltonJohn69 · 08-04-2019 1:15am

Bertie was a great guest, a wealth of information, I would like to hear him on the show more often

Still Ill · 08-04-2019 9:16am

Agree that you'd be hard pressed to find a guest more knowledgeable and experienced in politics to speak about Brexit. Really made for an interesting podcast. Eamon can really be over the top in his praise though. Completely whitewashing over the mess he left the country in and his dodgy dealings. Obviously I don't expect him to mention these things explicitly, but he could tone it down a bit with the eulogies.

Beechwoodspark · 08-04-2019 9:26am

Still Ill wrote: »

Agree that you'd be hard pressed to find a guest more knowledgeable and experienced in politics to speak about Brexit. Really made for an interesting podcast. Eamon can really be over the top in his praise though. Completely whitewashing over the mess he left the country in and his dodgy dealings. Obviously I don't expect him to mention these things explicitly, but he could tone it down a bit with the eulogies.

Eamo soft soaps all the guests and he was the same when he had his radio show.

Still Ill · 08-04-2019 9:52am

Yeah, it's a pity someone who's been so gobby over the years turns into a pussycat when face to face with someone. He was the same with the Second Captains guys when he went on their show after being critical of them.

riemann · 08-04-2019 12:51pm

An embarrassment of a man.

At best an idiot, at worst an extremely devious liar.

jaykay74 · 10-04-2019 4:34pm

When Brendan o Neill is on with Dunphy you are as well off listening to any old episode with both of them. All repetition.

mikemac2 · 10-04-2019 4:40pm

The Bertie podcast and the Delaney podcast were both good

He is overusing Verona Murphy from the Road Hauliers. It's gotten so familiar it's "your listeners know me and Minister Ross", she feels she doesn't have to explain anymore. We do know, she says it every single podcast

I'd love him to ask about driver training standards considering Amiens St railbridge gets whacked every month

Dots1982 · 10-04-2019 6:36pm

Amazing to hear Star columnist Eamon Dunphy referred to Cathal Dervan dismissedly as a tabloid journalist on the Delaney pod.

You can’t be taking him seriously.

theoneeyedman · 10-04-2019 6:38pm

jaykay74 wrote: »

When Brendan o Neill is on with Dunphy you are as well off listening to any old episode with both of them. All repetition.

17.4 million.... Largest democratic vote in history.... Shackled to the EU... Yawn.

Still Ill · 10-04-2019 6:45pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

Amazing to hear Star columnist Eamon Dunphy referred to Cathal Dervan dismissedly as a tabloid journalist on the Delaney pod.

You can’t be taking him seriously.

Does it count as being a tabloid journalist if your column is ghost written? He admitted on Second Captains that his column is the first thing he reads every Monday to check what they've written for him.

Sick of the pro and anti Brexit voices too at this stage. Never thought I'd view Bertie as a breath of fresh air!

Dots1982 · 10-04-2019 6:59pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Does it count as being a tabloid journalist if your column is ghost written? He admitted on Second Captains that his column is the first thing he reads every Monday to check what they've written for him.

Sick of the pro and anti Brexit voices too at this stage. Never thought I'd view Bertie as a breath of fresh air!

Wouldn’t it be more of a reason not to take him seriously?

Arghus · 10-04-2019 7:36pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

Amazing to hear Star columnist Eamon Dunphy referred to Cathal Dervan dismissedly as a tabloid journalist on the Delaney pod.

You can’t be taking him seriously.

He seems to have a particular issue with Cathal Dervan - referring to him as a "hack".

Though I do wonder about the morals of these types who go from journalism into PR. It's a very common feature of the Irish media landscape.

VonZan · 10-04-2019 7:41pm

Arghus wrote: »

He seems to have a particular issue with Cathal Dervan - referring to him as a "hack".

Though I do wonder about the morals of these types who go from journalism into PR. It's a very common feature of the Irish media landscape.

I think a lot of people have a problem with Dervan. I know Keane had a major problem with him too. Just look at some of the articles he's written.

Dots1982 · 10-04-2019 9:13pm

Arghus wrote: »

He seems to have a particular issue with Cathal Dervan - referring to him as a "hack".

Though I do wonder about the morals of these types who go from journalism into PR. It's a very common feature of the Irish media landscape.

They went to court in the 90s afaik. Google for more details.

Dots1982 · 10-04-2019 9:15pm

But dismissing him as a tabloid journalist is just Dunphy 100%. The mans being on the books of the star for 30 years.

dulpit · 10-04-2019 10:42pm

Dots1982 wrote: »

But dismissing him as a tabloid journalist is just Dunphy 100%. The mans being on the books of the star for 30 years.

I remember a podcast with Nicola Tallent (sp?) a good while back where Dunphy specifically praised the tabloids for their crime coverage. So I'm not sure if he'd use tabloid as a strict negative...

Dots1982 · 10-04-2019 11:33pm

dulpit wrote: »

I remember a podcast with Nicola Tallent (sp?) a good while back where Dunphy specifically praised the tabloids for their crime coverage. So I'm not sure if he'd use tabloid as a strict negative...

Yes he is a bastion of consistentcy as we’ve seen with his flip flopping on Delaney.

Arghus · 11-04-2019 12:43am

Sure Dunphy flip flops all over the place. His opinion on anything is entirely dependent on whatever guest he is talking to at the time.

If the guest on his show is good, then the show will be good. But if he has someone bad on, then the show will be bad.

Kingp35 · 11-04-2019 8:32am

I used to listen to every episode but now I skip most of them as it's the same people talking about the same thing. He needs to find some different guests and cover some different topics. It's gotten very stale at this stage.

Live at Three · 11-04-2019 10:56am

Brendan O Neill a useless guest who is unable to answer any question asked, but he never gets pressed, either by Eamonn or Mick. Is this because they depend on these 4 or 5 guests and don't want to show them up?

The podcast medium is great compared to normal radio but I think this is an issue. A podcaster will never really slate his own guest in the style of Matt Cooper etc.

Utopia Parkway · 11-04-2019 1:39pm

Kingp35 wrote: »

I used to listen to every episode but now I skip most of them as it's the same people talking about the same thing. He needs to find some different guests and cover some different topics. It's gotten very stale at this stage.

The only two people he ever seems have on about Brexit is Verona Murphy and Brendan O'Neill.

Dunphy was like this with his radio show as well. Always relied on the same guests every week. Needs to broaden his guest list. Just feels a bit lazy.

dulpit · 11-04-2019 2:30pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

The only two people he ever seems have on about Brexit is Verona Murphy and Brendan O'Neill.

Dunphy was like this with his radio show as well. Always relied on the same guests every week. Needs to broaden his guest list. Just feels a bit lazy.

I don't mind regular guests when the topic changes (e.g. Giles/Brady on the soccerball, Niall Stanage on whatever is going on the US), but the Brexit chats have been very samey for the last few months at this point.

CatFromHue · 11-04-2019 11:16pm

in fairness there's nothing new to talk about with Brexit, it's been the same story now for months if not longer.

neris · 12-04-2019 11:37am

That brexit lad is getting boring now at this stage. Same ****e out of him every podcast. Out out out and any Remainers should be taken out and shot. He doesnt seem to be able to grasp the idea that some ppl didnt vote the way he did

applehunter · 19-04-2019 12:57am

Lara Marlowe voted for Hilary Clinton and is a Macron supporter and enjoyed the architecture of Notre Dame Cathedral as she drank her coffee from a nearby café.

Fascinating.

The Irish Times knows how to pick'em.

dulpit · 19-04-2019 10:18am

applehunter wrote: »

Lara Marlowe voted for Hilary Clinton and is a Macron supporter and enjoyed the architecture of Notre Dame Cathedral as she drank her coffee from a nearby café.

Fascinating.

The Irish Times knows how to pick'em.

I don't understand the thrust of your point?

Arghus · 19-04-2019 11:14am

dulpit wrote: »

I don't understand the thrust of your point?

He's glibly dismissing Lara Marlowe - without really engaging with what she has to say about things - because she ticks a lot of boxes for him, on the surface, that mark her out as representative of the typical Irish Times foreign correspondent.

Abel Ruiz · 19-04-2019 11:19am

dulpit wrote: »

the Brexit chats have been very samey for the last few months at this point.

Isn't that the same with all media???
Brexit is very boring at this stage.

neris · 25-04-2019 8:22am

Brexit boy is back. Listened to about 5 minutes of the same repetitive crap before giving up

EltonJohn69 · 25-04-2019 8:55am

The stand does seem to have a lack of diversity of topics

EltonJohn69 · 25-04-2019 8:56am

The stand does seem to have a lack of diversity of topics

riemann · 25-04-2019 11:16am

Arghus wrote: »

He's glibly dismissing Lara Marlowe - without really engaging with what she has to say about things - because she ticks a lot of boxes for him, on the surface, that mark her out as representative of the typical Irish Times foreign correspondent.

He hit the nail on the head.

You have reaffirmed your sense of importance.

I look forward to your next contribution. I expect it will be informative and objective, as always.

Utopia Parkway · 25-04-2019 2:59pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

The stand does seem to have a lack of diversity of topics

Diversity of contributors for sure. Same 2 or 3 people on about Brexit all the time.

Arghus · 25-04-2019 3:07pm

riemann wrote: »

He hit the nail on the head.

You have reaffirmed your sense of importance.

I look forward to your next contribution. I expect it will be informative and objective, as always.

Thank you bro!

dastardly00 · 10-05-2019 4:59pm

Did anyone listen to the latest podcast with Nicola Tallant about the Drogheda feud?

Eamon mentioned that he has an old photo of himself standing alongside Gerry 'The Monk' Hutch and a 10-year old Wesley Hoolahan

11-05-2019 9:57pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

Did anyone listen to the latest podcast with Nicola Tallant about the Drogheda feud?

Eamon mentioned that he has an old photo of himself standing alongside Gerry 'The Monk' Hutch and a 10-year old Wesley Hoolahan

probably waived his appearance fee for a bag of blow.

Aska · 11-05-2019 10:10pm

dastardly00 wrote:

Did anyone listen to the latest podcast with Nicola Tallant about the Drogheda feud?

Haven't listened to this episode yet. But if it's anything like the Bobby Ryan one from the week before it will be ill prepared, jesus she must have done feck all reserch on it as she got basic facts wrong

neris · 13-05-2019 11:09am

dastardly00 wrote: »

Did anyone listen to the latest podcast with Nicola Tallant about the Drogheda feud?

Eamon mentioned that he has an old photo of himself standing alongside Gerry 'The Monk' Hutch and a 10-year old Wesley Hoolahan

was listening to that and she was going on about the Gardai not having the resources to do surveillance and following the gang members around. Surely we have members of the Army who are trained in that kind of stuff that could help the gardai out

dominatinMC · 16-05-2019 3:31pm

Just listened back to the podcast on Climate Change from last week - would really recommend this for anyone who hasn't listened to it already. Although it showcases some of Eamos most annoying traits (bumbling along, interjecting the contributor with tangential questions/observations), I really think it is essential listening. The guest, John Gibbons, is a brilliant knowledgeable journalist, who presents the (frightening) facts in a clear, succinct manner.

The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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