Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]

Baggly · 17-03-2019 11:03pm

Victor wrote:

They should give the Hulk an Ant Man suit.

Or blank panther suit.

SureYWouldntYa · 18-03-2019 9:25pm

I hate the way the snap is now referred to as the decimation

It's known as the snap to so many, I don't know if the decimation is what it was in the comics but the snap just fit much more

Lithium93_ · 18-03-2019 9:43pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

I hate the way the snap is now referred to as the decimation

It's known as the snap to so many, I don't know if the decimation is what it was in the comics but the snap just fit much more

I kinda prefer The Decimation, cause that's what exactly Thanos did when he decimated half the universe.

But that's just me.

AidoEirE · 18-03-2019 9:48pm

pixelburp wrote: »

There's probably a good chance it's his last appearance in the MCU, so IMO it's worth noting how well they adapted Captain America; it felt like the character that was easiest to f*ck up - insofar as making him a jingoistic meathead (see the infamously awful "Do you think this stands for 'France'" moment in the comics) - yet the end result has been not just the beating heart of the Avengers, but arguably a better adaptation of Superman than the actual DC, 'Man of Steel' version. Of course part of it has been Chris Evans' performances, but the character itself has always been pitch perfect.

I always thought cap was a bit meh before the movies and even after his first movie i thought, how is this guy going to lead this big ensamble of a cast for avengers.
Been superb all the way through and probably has the best movies in the series with winter soilder.
As much as RDJ is Iron man made, Evans is his equal. Great casting choices

Edit: its quite mad asking for spoiler tags, om the most anticipated movie of the year, when 99% of people will watch a trailer and should rightly be discussed.
Why go into a thread of a film your looking forward to and not expect a discussion about said movie.

Spolier tag people would have a point if it was just released and people seen it, gave opinion without tags, but c'mon

pixelburp · 18-03-2019 9:50pm

The grammatical pedant in me is jumping up and down over "decimation", that is to reduce by a tenth, being used to refer to a 50% cut

Yeah I know the common meaning has changed, but still!

SureYWouldntYa · 18-03-2019 10:00pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I kinda prefer The Decimation, cause that's what exactly Thanos did when he decimated half the universe.

But that's just me.

He also snapped his fingers and half the universe were gone, both are as right as each other in reality but did anyone call it the decimation before it was given that name months after the movie

AidoEirE · 18-03-2019 10:12pm

Quick question,

When thanos did the click, would he have been able to turn to dust like the rest or would the gauntlet not let that happen to the wearer of it. Im guessing it was 50/50, what would have happened to the gauntlet then?,
Would it in itself then turn to dust, if not, Cap or someone else could have reveresed it.

Busi_Girl08 · 18-03-2019 10:19pm

AidoEirE wrote: »

Quick question,

When thanos did the click, would he have been able to turn to dust like the rest or would the gauntlet not let that happen to the wearer of it. Im guessing it was 50/50, what would have happened to the gauntlet then?,
Would it in itself then turn to dust, if not, Cap or someone else could have reveresed it.

I would imagine as the wearer he was protected from the effects of the snap.

Just guessing though

SureYWouldntYa · 18-03-2019 10:28pm

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

I would imagine as the wearer he was protected from the effects of the snap.

Just guessing though

In the scene just after the snap inside the soul stone, you see him shocked and checking his body for the wound stormbreaker caused, it could also be looked at from Thanos' perspective as a purgatory type scene

One of the main points for the snap was it was fair in that rich or poor could die, by his own theory Thanos should be on the line too, but I would always trust the word of a genocidal warlord

AidoEirE · 18-03-2019 10:32pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

In the scene just after the snap inside the soul stone, you see him shocked and checking his body for the wound stormbreaker caused, it could also be looked at from Thanos' perspective as a purgatory type scene

One of the main points for the snap was it was fair in that rich or poor could die, by his own theory Thanos should be on the line too, but I would always trust the word of a genocidal warlord

Your last paragraph was what i was thinking. Would the gaunlet let itself be destroyed then. Maybe im just thinking way to much into it

Loughc · 18-03-2019 10:35pm

In a parallel universe

Glico Man · 18-03-2019 10:41pm

Loughc wrote: »

In a parallel universe

Had to give that a second viewing as I missed Drax on the first glance

Loughc · 18-03-2019 11:20pm

Glico Man wrote: »

Had to give that a second viewing as I missed Drax on the first glance

He’s just standing still. Completely invisible :pac:

Penn · 19-03-2019 2:34pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

I hate the way the snap is now referred to as the decimation

It's known as the snap to so many, I don't know if the decimation is what it was in the comics but the snap just fit much more

Of the 3.5billion people left alive after the snap/decimation, all but about 10 of them know it happened due to someone snapping his fingers.

The remaining Avengers likely told politicians etc what happened, but chances are the name 'The Decimation' had likely already been coined and accepted.

We know it happened due to a snap, and we call it a snap, but it wouldn't make sense within the movie for anyone other than the Avengers to refer to it like that, so chances are when others started referring to it as The Decimation, that's the name that stuck.

SureYWouldntYa · 19-03-2019 3:52pm

Penn wrote: »

Of the 3.5billion people left alive after the snap/decimation, all but about 10 of them know it happened due to someone snapping his fingers.

The remaining Avengers likely told politicians etc what happened, but chances are the name 'The Decimation' had likely already been coined and accepted.

We know it happened due to a snap, and we call it a snap, but it wouldn't make sense within the movie for anyone other than the Avengers to refer to it like that, so chances are when others started referring to it as The Decimation, that's the name that stuck.

Ah i get that of course, it maybe makes more sense than the snap, the snap caused the decimation

I just think its a event and moment known as the snap to most, and its a pity really that there’s a name change to the event even if the new name makes sense in context

Loughc · 19-03-2019 3:55pm

They missed a trick, not calling it The Snappening....

Sparko · 19-03-2019 4:10pm

Loughc wrote: »

In a parallel universe

Do you think they left Zoe Saldana's name off the top in reference to Danai Gurira being left off the original version of the official poster, or am I overthinking this?!

Baggly · 19-03-2019 4:12pm

Hmmm who would you back in a fight - those that got snapped or those that lived.....

Loughc · 19-03-2019 4:34pm

Pter wrote: »

Hmmm who would you back in a fight - those that got snapped or those that lived.....

Lived all day long. Superior bunch of heroes survived... luckily enough..

Baggly · 19-03-2019 4:37pm

I dunno SW and DS are heavy enough hitters. Probably no Thor equivalent there however, which probably does tip it.

GavRedKing · 19-03-2019 4:46pm

Pter wrote: »

Hmmm who would you back in a fight - those that got snapped or those that lived.....

Living, mainly due to them having Thor, Hulk/Banner, Captain Marvel (assuming shes not been snapped), the living side also has some pretty poor heroes left in their ranks though.

Theres still going to be a few on the living and snapped side that will surely bite the bullet by the time the end credits role and thats what I cant wait to see, who they kill off permanently.

Killing off Loki and Heimdall that early in A:IW was a bit of shock too and a few act I deaths will set the tempo nicely for Endgame.

Penn · 19-03-2019 4:46pm

Sparko wrote: »

Do you think they left Zoe Saldana's name off the top in reference to Danai Gurira being left off the original version of the official poster, or am I overthinking this?!

Probably over-thinking. More likely Gamora got killed pre-snap so wouldn't qualify as one of those killed in the snap.

johnny_ultimate · 19-03-2019 4:48pm

It’s delusional to suggest anyone other than the snapped heroes would win such a showdown.

I mean clearly they have more confirmed and contracted sequels they need to show up for :pac:

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 19-03-2019 5:05pm

Based on the last trailer I find myself sceptical over the use of time travel. We know that Feige loves to plan things so that they subvert expectations and the general consensus seems to be expecting that time travel is employed to beat Thanos. Now before you dismiss me, hear me out.

In the latest trailer, Peggy Carter specifically says

None of us can go back

Is this referencing the impossibility of time travel back to before the snap happened?

and sometimes the best that we can do is to start over

We know that Endgame is the end of Phase 3, so this final movie is a "soft reboot" of the entire franchise perhaps. The snap will be undone but things will not be exactly the same as we've come to know it.

My theory is that instead of travelling back in time they'll move sideways instead. The comic books have always had a ton of alternate universes so perhaps Endgame is them moving to another universe and stopping Thanos there? The movie will play out where they jump sideways to various fights versus Thanos but constantly fail until they finally realize that major sacrifices must happen to beat Thanos. IE: Stark and Cap America are goners.

But without a doubt, Goose will be instrumental to beating Thanos. :pac:

GavRedKing · 19-03-2019 5:30pm

I dont know will they introduce a parallel/alternative universe, that could easily see things unravel down the line but its going to be interesting to see how the snap is reversed either fully or partially.

They have to be at least trying to undo it because theres no point going after Thanos for another fight unless they have some hope of changing history because as far as Thanos is concerned, hes sitting on Titan enjoying the fruits of his labour after bringing balance to the universe, he has no intention of carrying on his work.

SureYWouldntYa · 19-03-2019 6:08pm

I hope they go after Thanos almost straight away, hoping to defeat him and use the infinity gauntlet to undo what's been done, but they lose fairly easily

Trailer spoilers here -

We see a blonde Black Widow (same as she was in Infinity War) in trailer 1, with Cap on a plane talking about it has to work, maybe their first attempt to stop Thanos. In trailer 2 we see her at various stages with her red hair, such as when she's at the shooting range. I can only imagine based on this that their initial efforts to stop Thanos fail, and thats what leads to the timejump

Alternative universes seem like a copout to me, it's trying to both give us the happy ending and keep Thanos and his actions strong

PTH2009 · 20-03-2019 2:41am

They all seem fairly happy in the Spider man far from home as thats set after the snap ???

cant wait for too see how it all works out

Loughc · 20-03-2019 9:09am

PTH2009 wrote: »

They all seem fairly happy in the Spider man far from home as thats set after the snap ???

cant wait for too see how it all works out

How do we know that’s after the snappening? I know Feige said it picks up minutes but the main plot could take place before Infinity War.

BBMcQ · 20-03-2019 10:19pm

anybody have inside scoop on ticket sales? Rumours online it's 2nd April

Lithium93_ · 21-03-2019 12:57am

Synopsis for the film has been released.

The grave course of events set in motion by Thanos that wiped out half the universe and fractured the Avengers ranks compels the remaining Avengers to take one final stand in Marvel Studios’ grand conclusion to twenty-two films.

Loughc · 21-03-2019 11:08am

This tickled me.

Baggly · 21-03-2019 11:10am

Thats true. One more Avengers movie closer to Tesco Wars.

Mitch Connor · 21-03-2019 3:38pm

Pter wrote: »

Thats true. One more Avengers movie closer to Tesco Wars.

What?

I've read the captain marvel thread.

Mitch Connor · 21-03-2019 3:39pm

Loughc wrote: »

How do we know that’s after the snappening? I know Feige said it picks up minutes but the main plot could take place before Infinity War.

I reckon the bus that they are on in IW, is bringing them back from the airport - from the Far From Home movie trip.

Mickeroo · 21-03-2019 3:45pm

Only caught the trailer yesterday. I'm guessing the white suits we see are space suits. Would be cool if the majority of the film took place off earth.

Midnight_EG · 21-03-2019 3:54pm

Anybody else think that Captain Marvel will be the one who catches Stormbreaker instead of Thor in that scene at the end of the trailer?

SureYWouldntYa · 21-03-2019 3:58pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Only caught the trailer yesterday. I'm guessing the white suits we see are space suits. Would be cool if the majority of the film took place off earth.

They could be suits for them to enter the quantum realm either

The funniest bit about the that whole thing is Rhodey being in his War Machine gear inside the suit

Mickeroo · 21-03-2019 4:39pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

They could be suits for them to enter the quantum realm either

The funniest bit about the that whole thing is Rhodey being in his War Machine gear inside the suit

Hah I didn't cop that at all eith Rhodey. Good shout on the quantum realm, didn't think of that.

Baggly · 21-03-2019 5:13pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

What?

I've read the captain marvel thread.

Basically, im an idiot.....mistook a joke in the capt marvel thread for having been here.

pixelburp wrote: »

So if the mundanity continues we'll eventually find ourselves watching Avengers 8: Tesco Wars I guess?

Pter wrote: »

I made a joke about Tesco Wars in the Endgame discussion thread and it just clicked with me that Pixel made that joke here and not there and no-one there knows what im talking about.

Happy Thursday!

GavRedKing · 21-03-2019 5:37pm

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

They could be suits for them to enter the quantum realm either

The funniest bit about the that whole thing is Rhodey being in his War Machine gear inside the suit

One of the bigger ITK accounts on Twitter has suggested they are Quantum Realm suits.

I'd imagine it would make sense also for War Machince to be in a suit as without you've just got Rhodey going into the Quantum Realm and he'd be pretty useless in a fight without the WM armour.

Gbear · 21-03-2019 5:41pm

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Anybody else think that Captain Marvel will be the one who catches Stormbreaker instead of Thor in that scene at the end of the trailer?

You mean they'll change it?

Midnight_EG · 21-03-2019 5:51pm

Gbear wrote: »

You mean they'll change it?

Yeah, just like Hulk running through Wakanda

GavRedKing · 21-03-2019 5:52pm

Gbear wrote: »

You mean they'll change it?

Ya, I've only watched the trailer once and I'm nearly certain it was Thor who grabbed Stormbreaker

I mean, I dont see any reason why it would go to Cap anyway, it wouldnt make any sense. I know he slightly moved Mjolnir a few films ago but I dont think hes going to be wielding Stormbreaker anytime soon.

Midnight_EG · 21-03-2019 5:55pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ya, I've only watched the trailer once and I'm nearly certain it was Thor who grabbed Stormbreaker

I mean, I dont see any reason why it would go to Cap anyway, it wouldnt make any sense. I know he slightly moved Mjolnir a few films ago but I dont think hes going to be wielding Stormbreaker anytime soon.

Captain Marvel, not Captain America :pac:

Mitch Connor · 21-03-2019 5:56pm

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Anybody else think that Captain Marvel will be the one who catches Stormbreaker instead of Thor in that scene at the end of the trailer?

Nope.

I don't think that is what happens at all.

To me the scene is showing her not being phased, her spinning and catching it... meh.

However... question: Does Stormbreaker have the Hammer 'worthyness' thing? Or could anyone hold it?

GavRedKing · 21-03-2019 6:05pm

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Captain Marvel, not Captain America :pac:

Ahhh.

I know with Mjolnir you had to be worthy yada yada but with Stormbreaker we've no idea if thats the case.

Although during A:IW Thor said to Quill and GoTG that none of them could wield a Thanos killing weapon as it would crush them, or some such.

Maybe Carol will be able to handle Stormbreaker.

Baggly · 21-03-2019 6:51pm

It was described as a kings weapon. I'd say you have to be a king to use it

Gbear · 21-03-2019 9:59pm

Pter wrote: »

It was described as a kings weapon. I'd say you have to be a king to use it

Don't think so. I think that just meant it was fit for a king. Like you'd say that's a car fit for a rock star. It wouldn't mean that I couldn't turn on a Ferrari (NB: I'm not a rock star).

Baggly · 21-03-2019 11:03pm

Gbear wrote:

Don't think so. I think that just meant it was fit for a king. Like you'd say that's a car fit for a rock star. It wouldn't mean that I couldn't turn on a Ferrari (NB: I'm not a rock star).

Unless it was a magic Ferrari I guess....

Loughc · 22-03-2019 12:04am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Synopsis for the film has been released.

The grave course of events set in motion by Thanos that wiped out half the universe and fractured the Avengers ranks compels the remaining Avengers to take one final stand in Marvel Studios’ grand conclusion to twenty-two films.

That’s amazing. I wonder what the next major story arc will be. Any rumblings?

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