The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

Obrieski · 18-06-2019 2:07pm

Don't think Verona Murphy is the worst, obviously pushes the haulier agenda but it is still interesting to see Brexit from her and her workers' perspectives in a situation you don't always hear about. I do agree there is little point having her on overly often as it is the same kind of stuff each time but still an interesting insight.

hankless · 19-06-2019 10:52am

Yes I like her but she, like so many of the other regulars, is a bit repetitive.

On another note, has anyone bought any Tesco Finest stuff of late? I haven't. Sorry, not sorry, Tesco

CatFromHue · 19-06-2019 11:48pm

I'll spoiler it in case anyone hasn't listened to today's cervical cancer episode

Did anyone else think this was a terrible episode? They never mentioned how screening works and that there are false positives and negatives, that the audits are done to help improve the system, a lot of other countries don't disclose a false positive or negative, Scally's report indicated that the actual accuracy of the tests didn't seem to be in question, and treatment was not withheld when symptoms showed up. I have to say I turned it off shortly after Eamonn accused the Doctors of playing God when neither wanted to tell that there'd been a false negative so apologies to all if the above points where dealt with after that.

d8491prj5boyvg · 20-06-2019 8:54am

Aska wrote: »

And she has resurfaced again.

The thoughts of her looking for a seat down here in Wexford in the next GE give me shivers.

She is overdue an appearance on The Tonight Show also

I haven't listened to it. This epitomises what is wrong with the show, a one-trick pony on again and again. I love the podcast but Eamo really needs to put more effort into keeping things fresh!

Aska · 20-06-2019 10:22am

Obrieski wrote:

Don't think Verona Murphy is the worst, obviously pushes the haulier agenda.

I can handle that at times but it is repeditive now also her climate change speeches are a total laugh, she goes on about hauliers buying Euro 6 trucks (151 reg upwards for better emmissions) yet her own company purchase and use 2006 trucks with a dreadful emmissions output but lord jesus would Ivan or Eamonn bring this up with her?

Practice what you preach,

Obrieski · 20-06-2019 3:01pm

Aviana Scruffy Vigilance wrote: »

I haven't listened to it. This epitomises what is wrong with the show, a one-trick pony on again and again. I love the podcast but Eamo really needs to put more effort into keeping things fresh!

A one trick pony but it's a very good trick...

I'll get my coat

Still Ill · 03-07-2019 9:20am

Was nice to finally hear John and Eamon's opinion on Pogba in the Man United pod.

Say Your Number · 03-07-2019 7:52pm

Well Pogba came up a lot because of France's World Cup run last year and the uncertainty over his future this year, if you listen every contribution Giles has made to OTB or this podcast, then yeah it would be a bit repetitive.

People whinge about Giles talking too much about the old days on the OTB thread, and now someone is complaining about him talking too much about a modern player, you can't win.

Still Ill · 03-07-2019 9:17pm

It was more Eamon's fixation on Pogba. I've listened to them have the same conversation in virtually every football podcast for the last year or two. Hopefully he'll leave in the summer anyway and we'll be done for good.

Ursus Horribilis · 03-07-2019 11:34pm

The Man Utd fans I've spoken to would love to see him gone too

EltonJohn69 · 03-07-2019 11:51pm

Dunphy is very jealous of Pogba... and that jealousy has turned into a dark and twisted obsession.... very sad that it has come to this

Cartman78 · 04-07-2019 8:54am

Obrieski wrote: »

A one trick pony but it's a very good trick...

I'll get my coat

I'm sorry to say it but it's time to Giles to hang up the mike.

Ever since Klopp came to Liverpool he's been shyting on about 'one trick pony', 'it's all go go go' and 'no control of matches'

Liverpool win the Champions League Final playing sterile, controlled football.

Giles: "I thought they should have attacked more Eammon, really gone for it" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Anyway, I think the show badly needs a refresh - wonder why the guest list is so limited?? Is it lack of money or people not liking Dunphy??

Still Ill · 04-07-2019 8:59am

Cartman78 wrote: »

I'm sorry to say it but it's time to Giles to hang up the mike.

Ever since Klopp came to Liverpool he's been shyting on about 'one trick pony', 'it's all go go go' and 'no control of matches'

Liverpool win the Champions League Final playing sterile, controlled football.

Giles: "I thought they should have attacked more Eammon, really gone for it" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Anyway, I think the show badly needs a refresh - wonder why the guest list is so limited?? Is it lack of money or people not liking Dunphy??

Yeah, the one trick pony with the great trick was irritating a long time ago. Liverpool were probably the most definitively solid team in Europe last season. Would John not consider that a trick too?

I'd say it's more a case that Eamon is loyal to his mates than anything else. He has the odd different guest on for specialist stuff like John Delaney and Spanish football. Those tend to be the better podcasts.

DeanAustin · 04-07-2019 1:31pm

The United podcast was beyond abysmal. Giles is still pretty good when analysing actual football games but on a podcast like this, they really show how out of touch they are when it comes to today’s game and how clubs have to be run.

There was so much supposition and twisting of facts to suit a narrative.

Giles: “When managers get control, it works. Look at Klopp and Guardiola.”
Dunphy: “But John, Klopp is part of a committee, he doesn’t have full say.”

They come back to it later and Giles reiterates that Klopp and Guardiola call the shots. Dunphy then agrees with him.

The supposition that OGS has nothing whatsoever to do with transfers at United stated as fact. How on earth does Giles know that?

He also throws out stuff that is repetitive and some of which has been proven wrong:

1. “Klopp is a one trick pony with a very good trick.”
2. “Pogba is a social media star.”
3. “Mourinho described Pogba as the complete midfield player.”

It’s really tiresome. Giles hates chairmen because he had a bad experience at West Brom and Leeds with them and thinks managers should have 100% control of transfers. The game isn’t run like that any more and nor should it be particularly with the high turnover rate for managers and the large sums of money involved.

dulpit · 04-07-2019 1:50pm

He also trotted out that trope of his "football men". :rolleyes:

EltonJohn69 · 04-07-2019 3:17pm

Is tesco finest really supporting the podcast enough ? Where are the superstar guests ? Where is that tesco mega cash going ? Big questions require big answers ???

Obrieski · 05-07-2019 9:33am

Funnily enough, I’ve stopped listening to the football stuff in the main. It’s the same rhetoric every week.

Very intrigued listening to the housing crisis debate. I must say I’m a millennial in the same bubble as the 2 lads and it strikes massive fear into me. Everything they said resonated so perfectly with my, and the majority of my peers, situations. While not overly agreeing with the booting old people out of their homes to alternative arrangements idea, everything else I just say I whole heartedly agree with and see around me every day

d8491prj5boyvg · 06-07-2019 12:11pm

Obrieski wrote: »

Very intrigued listening to the housing crisis debate. I must say I’m a millennial in the same bubble as the 2 lads and it strikes massive fear into me. Everything they said resonated so perfectly with my, and the majority of my peers, situations. While not overly agreeing with the booting old people out of their homes to alternative arrangements idea, everything else I just say I whole heartedly agree with and see around me every day

I agree that this is a hugely interesting topic but this was not addressed very well at all in this podcast. Those lads seemed a bit condescending.

Dunphy: "does it scare you, as a millennial?" Guest: "It scares me in a societal sense but doesn't scare me personally, I'm resilient so will find a way through it" - Basically saying he's better than everyone else!!

Then went on about classicism and being judged by your accent as the challenge of our time. With a D4 accent. Showed a lack of independent thought and feels like he's just trotting out popular sound bites he's heard from somewhere else (I have a "regional" accent and while i do think there is prejudice, it really is very minor and very low on the list of things to fix)

My God. Very irritating guests.

CatFromHue · 06-07-2019 1:48pm

Deeter is 43 so not a millennial.

Whether you like him or not he knows his stuff on the housing market and has been pretty consistent about the problems and solutions to the current situation.

d8491prj5boyvg · 06-07-2019 1:54pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

Deeter is 43 so not a millennial.

Whether you like him or not he knows his stuff on the housing market and has been pretty consistent about the problems and solutions to the current situation.

You're right, he calls the other contributor (30's) a milennial. However, he did say he feels able to overcome something others will struggle to overcome.

Overall, there was very little value added in that discussion.

CatFromHue · 06-07-2019 3:42pm

If you look at Deeter's history you can see why he'd back himself, he really has led a varied life.

I'm not familiar with Maleney, I think he was on the pod before promoting his book but it wasn't a book on property.

At the end of the podcast Deeter mentioned Maleney's podcast but I had to dig it out, anyone ever listen to it?

https://www.dublininquirer.com/2019/02/06/supply-demand-a-podcast-about-dublin-s-housing-crisis-episode-1

d8491prj5boyvg · 07-07-2019 12:20pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

If you look at Deeter's history you can see why he'd back himself, he really has led a varied life.

I'm not familiar with Maleney, I think he was on the pod before promoting his book but it wasn't a book on property.

At the end of the podcast Deeter mentioned Maleney's podcast but I had to dig it out, anyone ever listen to it?

https://www.dublininquirer.com/2019/02/06/supply-demand-a-podcast-about-dublin-s-housing-crisis-episode-1

Listening to episode one now. Overall, it's pretty good. A great overview of the history of home ownership in Ireland. However, sometimes the language changes from stating the facts (what is/was) to more normative language (what should be). In a podcast like dunphys this is fine, we know that it is an opinion from the outset. But when something is presented as a historical overview it is a little troubling. I'd prefer if the value judgements were left to the listener to form.

Edit: Got through a good bit of it. Overall very good and would recommend.

McGrath5 · 08-07-2019 5:01pm

Way too much John Giles on lately, the guy is a legend in Irish football but it wouldn't do the podcast any harm if the had a different guest on for the "profile" episodes.

terrydel · 09-07-2019 9:28am

Aviana Scruffy Vigilance wrote: »

I agree that this is a hugely interesting topic but this was not addressed very well at all in this podcast. Those lads seemed a bit condescending.

Dunphy: "does it scare you, as a millennial?" Guest: "It scares me in a societal sense but doesn't scare me personally, I'm resilient so will find a way through it" - Basically saying he's better than everyone else!!

Then went on about classicism and being judged by your accent as the challenge of our time. With a D4 accent. Showed a lack of independent thought and feels like he's just trotting out popular sound bites he's heard from somewhere else (I have a "regional" accent and while i do think there is prejudice, it really is very minor and very low on the list of things to fix)

My God. Very irritating guests.

I personally cant stand Karl Deeter, I dont doubt he is intelligent and makes good points on issues, but I just find his dismissal of the seriousness of problems and issues raised by those on the left, to be infuriating. He always essentially goes down the Varadaker 'get up earlier' type of approach, when things are far more complex and nuanced than that. Saying that he isnt scared is pure hubris and adds nothing to the debate other than to boost his own ego.

DeanAustin · 09-07-2019 1:18pm

McGrath5 wrote: »

Way too much John Giles on lately, the guy is a legend in Irish football but it wouldn't do the podcast any harm if the had a different guest on for the "profile" episodes.

I'd agree there is too much Giles but I thought he was suited to the Charlton podcast because he knows Charlton well. His insight on how Jack sees the world was also interesting because it helped explain why Jack didn't want the likes of Brady/Whelan and others playing in their own half.

I thought they should have spoken more about Charlton's reign with Ireland but it was a much better podcast than the United one last week.

Obrieski · 11-07-2019 8:19am

Can we just get Stephen Kenny in as the Irish manager now. His enthusiasm is infectious!

Mantis Toboggan · 11-07-2019 2:37pm

Thought Giles was very good on the jack Charlton episode, his memory is phenomenal.

d8491prj5boyvg · 12-07-2019 8:38am

Obrieski wrote: »

Can we just get Stephen Kenny in as the Irish manager now. His enthusiasm is infectious!

I enjoyed his biographical interview but he spoke poorly. He sounds much clearer and more confident now. I really hope he does well, he seems like a good guy.

Still Ill · 12-07-2019 8:57am

Aviana Scruffy Vigilance wrote: »

I enjoyed his biographical interview but he spoke poorly. He sounds much clearer and more confident now. I really hope he does well, he seems like a good guy.

He was very impressive alright. Particularly his ability to overcome Eamon's desperation to interrupt and speak over him during every answer.

steve_r · 12-07-2019 12:56pm

Still Ill wrote: »

He was very impressive alright. Particularly his ability to overcome Eamon's desperation to interrupt and speak over him during every answer.

I thought he really came across well. Knowledgeable about the players, passionate about the project and interested and educated about the tactical changes that other countries were doing.

Poor old Eamo was all at sea with the new players and the tactics but I'm glad to see him supporting Kenny.

I really hope this appointment works out - he absolutely sounds like the right man for the role but whether he can get the performances out of the senior players remains to be seen.

Chicken George · 12-07-2019 11:14pm

So ANOTHER Brexit podcast with yer wan from the road hauliers. I've listened to Eamos podcasts from the start, now when I get a notification of a new podcast, I know its gonna be either Irish football, Man Utd, Brexit or anti President Trump, & Cocaine stories. Full stop!
I'm quickly losing interest in Dunphys podcasts.
Same old **** on repeat imo.

d8491prj5boyvg · 12-07-2019 11:41pm

Chicken George wrote: »

So ANOTHER Brexit podcast with yer wan from the road hauliers. I've listened to Eamos podcasts from the start, now when I get a notification of a new podcast, I know its gonna be either Irish football, Man Utd, Brexit or anti President Trump. Full stop.
I'm losing interest quickly in Dunphys podcasts.
Same old **** on repeat imo.

Yeah. He gives out about poor journalism elsewhere yet he can't see the limitations from guests like her. She had one great interview but her specialist perspective has nothing new to add since. I like dunphy but the value he adds is diminishing.

Still Ill · 13-07-2019 12:59pm

Gotta say though, as much as he's on, I'll never get tired of Niall Stanage. Just a brilliant contributor. We're lucky to have him.

dulpit · 13-07-2019 9:12pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Gotta say though, as much as he's on, I'll never get tired of Niall Stanage. Just a brilliant contributor. We're lucky to have him.

Agree. But the difference is he has something new to discuss each week, whereas a lot of the contributors are talking about the same thing each time...

Aidric · 13-07-2019 10:03pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Gotta say though, as much as he's on, I'll never get tired of Niall Stanage. Just a brilliant contributor. We're lucky to have him.

Tbf to him he is very articulate and balanced with his contributions despite Dunphy's best efforts to load his questions.

mikemac2 · 15-07-2019 7:32am

I enjoyed the Jack Charlton podcast. Giles is good at these and has plenty of insights. The Man Utd / Pogba podcast was all over the place

EltonJohn69 · 16-07-2019 10:36pm

Eamo painting CNN as the same as Fox News is a bit ridiculous... they are worlds apart

EltonJohn69 · 16-07-2019 10:38pm

Eamo painting CNN as the same as Fox News is a bit ridiculous... they are worlds apart

Obrieski · 17-07-2019 10:12am

Eamo very out of his depth with this Beatles podcast! I do enjoy the variety and something different all the same

EltonJohn69 · 17-07-2019 10:30am

I would like Eamo to do a podcast on a more modern band like Kasabian

d8491prj5boyvg · 17-07-2019 1:11pm

Obrieski wrote: »

Eamo very out of his depth with this Beatles podcast! I do enjoy the variety and something different all the same

Yeah, there was no edge to it whatsoever. Stick to what you know. It seemed like he was trying to shoehorn his buddy into an episode.

Beechwoodspark · 17-07-2019 1:29pm

I never warmed to BP Fallon after I saw him behave very rudely to staff in a restaurant a few years ago.

Was never really a fan of him but Couldn’t be bothered with his rubbish since then

Arghus · 17-07-2019 2:54pm

BP Fallon has a particular glint in his eye that I reckon comes from his knowledge that he's stole a career out of name-dropping and piggybacking on the back of actually talented people.

Beechwoodspark · 18-07-2019 8:21am

Just wondering, What was his role? A journalist/hanger on type?

hankless · 18-07-2019 10:38am

Certain irony to Nicola Tallant commenting on the industry of crime and career-criminals. She lives off that industry as much as they do. Whether we, the public, need the saturated coverage these criminals get is one thing - I don't think she personally idolises these guys as much as disgraced journalist Paul Williams did back in the day, making celebrities out of absolute shams.

Tony Tucker · 18-07-2019 4:18pm

I reckon Dunphys a Hutch man.

terrydel · 19-07-2019 2:53pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I never warmed to BP Fallon after I saw him behave very rudely to staff in a restaurant a few years ago.

Was never really a fan of him but Couldn’t be bothered with his rubbish since then

He comes across as incredibly arrogant and self important every time I listen to him, I might be doing him a big disservice but thats just my initial reaction. He seems humourless.

terrydel · 19-07-2019 2:53pm

The recent interview with Niall Stanage about Trump's racism was superb. One of the best in a long time.

dulpit · 19-07-2019 2:57pm

terrydel wrote: »

The recent interview with Niall Stanage about Trump's racism was superb. One of the best in a long time.

Dunphy sounded legit worried for America...

iancm25 · 19-07-2019 5:20pm

dulpit wrote: »

terrydel wrote: »

The recent interview with Niall Stanage about Trump's racism was superb. One of the best in a long time.

Dunphy sounded legit worried for America...

Rightly so in my view. Scary what’s going on at the moment, reminiscent of 1930s Germany.

Back on topic...I agree Stanage really is a superb contributor; logical, balanced, forthright...even the Nordie accent I have learned to live with!!

The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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