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The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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Haven't listened to much of this so far, but really enjoyed the interview with Damien Duff this week.

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EltonJohn69

Dunphy is very jealous of Pogba... and that jealousy has turned into a dark and twisted obsession.... very sad that it has come to this

Cartman78

Obrieski wrote: »

A one trick pony but it's a very good trick...

I'll get my coat

I'm sorry to say it but it's time to Giles to hang up the mike.

Ever since Klopp came to Liverpool he's been shyting on about 'one trick pony', 'it's all go go go' and 'no control of matches'

Liverpool win the Champions League Final playing sterile, controlled football.

Giles: "I thought they should have attacked more Eammon, really gone for it" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Anyway, I think the show badly needs a refresh - wonder why the guest list is so limited?? Is it lack of money or people not liking Dunphy??

Still Ill

Cartman78 wrote: »

I'm sorry to say it but it's time to Giles to hang up the mike.

Ever since Klopp came to Liverpool he's been shyting on about 'one trick pony', 'it's all go go go' and 'no control of matches'

Liverpool win the Champions League Final playing sterile, controlled football.

Giles: "I thought they should have attacked more Eammon, really gone for it" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Anyway, I think the show badly needs a refresh - wonder why the guest list is so limited?? Is it lack of money or people not liking Dunphy??

Yeah, the one trick pony with the great trick was irritating a long time ago. Liverpool were probably the most definitively solid team in Europe last season. Would John not consider that a trick too?

I'd say it's more a case that Eamon is loyal to his mates than anything else. He has the odd different guest on for specialist stuff like John Delaney and Spanish football. Those tend to be the better podcasts.

DeanAustin

The United podcast was beyond abysmal. Giles is still pretty good when analysing actual football games but on a podcast like this, they really show how out of touch they are when it comes to today’s game and how clubs have to be run.

There was so much supposition and twisting of facts to suit a narrative.

Giles: “When managers get control, it works. Look at Klopp and Guardiola.”
Dunphy: “But John, Klopp is part of a committee, he doesn’t have full say.”

They come back to it later and Giles reiterates that Klopp and Guardiola call the shots. Dunphy then agrees with him.

The supposition that OGS has nothing whatsoever to do with transfers at United stated as fact. How on earth does Giles know that?

He also throws out stuff that is repetitive and some of which has been proven wrong:

1. “Klopp is a one trick pony with a very good trick.”
2. “Pogba is a social media star.”
3. “Mourinho described Pogba as the complete midfield player.”

It’s really tiresome. Giles hates chairmen because he had a bad experience at West Brom and Leeds with them and thinks managers should have 100% control of transfers. The game isn’t run like that any more and nor should it be particularly with the high turnover rate for managers and the large sums of money involved.

dulpit

He also trotted out that trope of his "football men". :rolleyes:

EltonJohn69

Is tesco finest really supporting the podcast enough ? Where are the superstar guests ? Where is that tesco mega cash going ? Big questions require big answers ???

Obrieski

Funnily enough, I’ve stopped listening to the football stuff in the main. It’s the same rhetoric every week.

Very intrigued listening to the housing crisis debate. I must say I’m a millennial in the same bubble as the 2 lads and it strikes massive fear into me. Everything they said resonated so perfectly with my, and the majority of my peers, situations. While not overly agreeing with the booting old people out of their homes to alternative arrangements idea, everything else I just say I whole heartedly agree with and see around me every day

d8491prj5boyvg

Obrieski wrote: »

Very intrigued listening to the housing crisis debate. I must say I’m a millennial in the same bubble as the 2 lads and it strikes massive fear into me. Everything they said resonated so perfectly with my, and the majority of my peers, situations. While not overly agreeing with the booting old people out of their homes to alternative arrangements idea, everything else I just say I whole heartedly agree with and see around me every day

I agree that this is a hugely interesting topic but this was not addressed very well at all in this podcast. Those lads seemed a bit condescending.

Dunphy: "does it scare you, as a millennial?" Guest: "It scares me in a societal sense but doesn't scare me personally, I'm resilient so will find a way through it" - Basically saying he's better than everyone else!!

Then went on about classicism and being judged by your accent as the challenge of our time. With a D4 accent. Showed a lack of independent thought and feels like he's just trotting out popular sound bites he's heard from somewhere else (I have a "regional" accent and while i do think there is prejudice, it really is very minor and very low on the list of things to fix)

My God. Very irritating guests.

CatFromHue

Deeter is 43 so not a millennial.

Whether you like him or not he knows his stuff on the housing market and has been pretty consistent about the problems and solutions to the current situation.

d8491prj5boyvg

CatFromHue wrote: »

Deeter is 43 so not a millennial.

Whether you like him or not he knows his stuff on the housing market and has been pretty consistent about the problems and solutions to the current situation.

You're right, he calls the other contributor (30's) a milennial. However, he did say he feels able to overcome something others will struggle to overcome.

Overall, there was very little value added in that discussion.

CatFromHue

If you look at Deeter's history you can see why he'd back himself, he really has led a varied life.

I'm not familiar with Maleney, I think he was on the pod before promoting his book but it wasn't a book on property.

At the end of the podcast Deeter mentioned Maleney's podcast but I had to dig it out, anyone ever listen to it?

https://www.dublininquirer.com/2019/02/06/supply-demand-a-podcast-about-dublin-s-housing-crisis-episode-1

d8491prj5boyvg

CatFromHue wrote: »

If you look at Deeter's history you can see why he'd back himself, he really has led a varied life.

I'm not familiar with Maleney, I think he was on the pod before promoting his book but it wasn't a book on property.

At the end of the podcast Deeter mentioned Maleney's podcast but I had to dig it out, anyone ever listen to it?

https://www.dublininquirer.com/2019/02/06/supply-demand-a-podcast-about-dublin-s-housing-crisis-episode-1

Listening to episode one now. Overall, it's pretty good. A great overview of the history of home ownership in Ireland. However, sometimes the language changes from stating the facts (what is/was) to more normative language (what should be). In a podcast like dunphys this is fine, we know that it is an opinion from the outset. But when something is presented as a historical overview it is a little troubling. I'd prefer if the value judgements were left to the listener to form.

Edit: Got through a good bit of it. Overall very good and would recommend.

McGrath5

Way too much John Giles on lately, the guy is a legend in Irish football but it wouldn't do the podcast any harm if the had a different guest on for the "profile" episodes.

terrydel

Aviana Scruffy Vigilance wrote: »

I agree that this is a hugely interesting topic but this was not addressed very well at all in this podcast. Those lads seemed a bit condescending.

Dunphy: "does it scare you, as a millennial?" Guest: "It scares me in a societal sense but doesn't scare me personally, I'm resilient so will find a way through it" - Basically saying he's better than everyone else!!

Then went on about classicism and being judged by your accent as the challenge of our time. With a D4 accent. Showed a lack of independent thought and feels like he's just trotting out popular sound bites he's heard from somewhere else (I have a "regional" accent and while i do think there is prejudice, it really is very minor and very low on the list of things to fix)

My God. Very irritating guests.

I personally cant stand Karl Deeter, I dont doubt he is intelligent and makes good points on issues, but I just find his dismissal of the seriousness of problems and issues raised by those on the left, to be infuriating. He always essentially goes down the Varadaker 'get up earlier' type of approach, when things are far more complex and nuanced than that. Saying that he isnt scared is pure hubris and adds nothing to the debate other than to boost his own ego.

DeanAustin

McGrath5 wrote: »

Way too much John Giles on lately, the guy is a legend in Irish football but it wouldn't do the podcast any harm if the had a different guest on for the "profile" episodes.

I'd agree there is too much Giles but I thought he was suited to the Charlton podcast because he knows Charlton well. His insight on how Jack sees the world was also interesting because it helped explain why Jack didn't want the likes of Brady/Whelan and others playing in their own half.

I thought they should have spoken more about Charlton's reign with Ireland but it was a much better podcast than the United one last week.

Obrieski

Can we just get Stephen Kenny in as the Irish manager now. His enthusiasm is infectious!

Mantis Toboggan

Thought Giles was very good on the jack Charlton episode, his memory is phenomenal.

d8491prj5boyvg

Obrieski wrote: »

Can we just get Stephen Kenny in as the Irish manager now. His enthusiasm is infectious!

I enjoyed his biographical interview but he spoke poorly. He sounds much clearer and more confident now. I really hope he does well, he seems like a good guy.

Still Ill

Aviana Scruffy Vigilance wrote: »

I enjoyed his biographical interview but he spoke poorly. He sounds much clearer and more confident now. I really hope he does well, he seems like a good guy.

He was very impressive alright. Particularly his ability to overcome Eamon's desperation to interrupt and speak over him during every answer.

steve_r

Still Ill wrote: »

He was very impressive alright. Particularly his ability to overcome Eamon's desperation to interrupt and speak over him during every answer.

I thought he really came across well. Knowledgeable about the players, passionate about the project and interested and educated about the tactical changes that other countries were doing.

Poor old Eamo was all at sea with the new players and the tactics but I'm glad to see him supporting Kenny.

I really hope this appointment works out - he absolutely sounds like the right man for the role but whether he can get the performances out of the senior players remains to be seen.

Chicken George

So ANOTHER Brexit podcast with yer wan from the road hauliers. I've listened to Eamos podcasts from the start, now when I get a notification of a new podcast, I know its gonna be either Irish football, Man Utd, Brexit or anti President Trump, & Cocaine stories. Full stop!
I'm quickly losing interest in Dunphys podcasts.
Same old **** on repeat imo.

d8491prj5boyvg

Chicken George wrote: »

So ANOTHER Brexit podcast with yer wan from the road hauliers. I've listened to Eamos podcasts from the start, now when I get a notification of a new podcast, I know its gonna be either Irish football, Man Utd, Brexit or anti President Trump. Full stop.
I'm losing interest quickly in Dunphys podcasts.
Same old **** on repeat imo.

Yeah. He gives out about poor journalism elsewhere yet he can't see the limitations from guests like her. She had one great interview but her specialist perspective has nothing new to add since. I like dunphy but the value he adds is diminishing.

Still Ill

Gotta say though, as much as he's on, I'll never get tired of Niall Stanage. Just a brilliant contributor. We're lucky to have him.

dulpit

Still Ill wrote: »

Gotta say though, as much as he's on, I'll never get tired of Niall Stanage. Just a brilliant contributor. We're lucky to have him.

Agree. But the difference is he has something new to discuss each week, whereas a lot of the contributors are talking about the same thing each time...

Aidric

Still Ill wrote: »

Gotta say though, as much as he's on, I'll never get tired of Niall Stanage. Just a brilliant contributor. We're lucky to have him.

Tbf to him he is very articulate and balanced with his contributions despite Dunphy's best efforts to load his questions.

mikemac2

I enjoyed the Jack Charlton podcast. Giles is good at these and has plenty of insights. The Man Utd / Pogba podcast was all over the place

EltonJohn69

Eamo painting CNN as the same as Fox News is a bit ridiculous... they are worlds apart

EltonJohn69

Eamo painting CNN as the same as Fox News is a bit ridiculous... they are worlds apart

Obrieski

Eamo very out of his depth with this Beatles podcast! I do enjoy the variety and something different all the same

EltonJohn69

I would like Eamo to do a podcast on a more modern band like Kasabian