2020 French Open

Rjd2 · 06-10-2020 8:16pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

6-2 7-5 was a convincing win in Rome. Am I crazy to think Diego has a legit shot at taking Nadal?

He gave him a really tough match a few years ago but Rafa came through, he has a chance for sure, but beating Rafa here is a monumental effort.

Maybe Sinner does Diego a favor?

Rjd2 · 06-10-2020 8:17pm

Betting fav to win the ladies Swiatek in all sorts of bother early on...:eek:

whiterebel · 06-10-2020 8:38pm

Thiem was tired very early, you could see signs in the first set. Nothing left at all in the 5th.

Joe_ Public · 06-10-2020 9:23pm

Too easy for Swiatek ("Schwee-ontik" as Lindsay Davenport pronounces it). Could do with improving her drop shots, some rather pitiful efforts there.

06-10-2020 9:47pm

Yes pretty disappointing stuff by Thiem

His only excuse really is that he still hasn't fully reset himself after winning the slam as the French followed on so quickly after.

Definitely not going to be in the class of the big 3.

More of a Murray than a Djokovic and maybe that's being unkind to Murray.

06-10-2020 10:31pm

Sinner really taking the ball early.

Having a go.

Taking it to Nadal.

Nice to see.

mzungu · 06-10-2020 10:35pm

Schwartzman is a fine competitor. Not too surprised he beat Thiem.

Sinner up a break serving for the set now.

lostcat · 06-10-2020 10:45pm

Midnight in October probably not Nadals preferred French Open environment, I think it's fair to say

06-10-2020 10:50pm

The wizened prune takes the set in the end.

Sinner could easily have tied that set up before the breaker if he didn't hit those occasional really sloppy shots and too many 2nd serves along with his brilliant work.

yerwanthere123 · 06-10-2020 11:03pm

Enthralling first set, if inevitable outcome. Hope he can make a match of it although not looking likely with the trainer on court. Hope I'll wake up to find out Sinner pulled off the unthinkable, but..

josip · 06-10-2020 11:12pm

What's the rationale behind playing a quarter final at this ridiculous time?
It's not fair to the players, whose bio-rhythms will be knocked seriously out of sync.
Whoever wins this, probably won't be able to get to sleep before 4am French time.
That's not the right preparation for a FO semi final in a few days time.

Girly Gal · 06-10-2020 11:14pm

Sinner playing well here, looks like he could be a serious contender and could have a very good career ahead of him. Nadal looks very uncomfortable, possible upset on the cards.
It's crazy that they are still playing at this time, are they going to play to a finish or do they have to stop at a certain time?

lostcat · 06-10-2020 11:18pm

Skinner is fun to watch, but Nadal will just wait him out, he is going to beat himself

walshb · 06-10-2020 11:20pm

Had this late a match been played at RG before?

Augme · 06-10-2020 11:22pm

walshb wrote: »

Had this late a match been played at RG before?

Nope, this is the first time they have had floodlights on the courts.

yerwanthere123 · 06-10-2020 11:22pm

josip wrote: »

What's the rationale behind playing a quarter final at this ridiculous time?
It's not fair to the players, whose bio-rhythms will be knocked seriously out of sync.
Whoever wins this, probably won't be able to get to sleep before 4am French time.
That's not the right preparation for a FO semi final in a few days time.

Era they'll be grand. Is it any different to the times they play until at US/Australian Opens?

Girly Gal · 06-10-2020 11:27pm

Think Sinner's chance is gone, losing that break of serve.
The experience difference is showing, but, Rafa still not comfortable and with the crazy time this is being played at we might get a crazy result

Joe_ Public · 06-10-2020 11:33pm

After hanging around all day I'm sure they'd have wanted to play anyway, rather than having to come back again tomorrow. Bet rafa would have been fuming if they'd sent them away.

mzungu · 06-10-2020 11:34pm

Sinner just needs to hang in there and take any opportunities that come his way. It would not be beyond him to make a good match of it.

Mendelsohn33 · 06-10-2020 11:35pm

It's 50-50 at this stage.
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Now nobody respects my opinion on political matters
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I will ban anybody
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And every body sees it

josip · 06-10-2020 11:54pm

2-0 to Nadal now.
I expect the next set to be very straightforward for him.
He'll get to sleep earlier than I thought.

lostcat · 07-10-2020 12:08am

Sinner has finally ceeded the baseline, the end is nigh. Nadal not enjoying this one bit but Sinner not showing enough patience at times. I will be looking out for him in the next few years, really good fun to watch.

Hector Savage · 07-10-2020 8:33am

Chivito550 wrote: »

6-2 7-5 was a convincing win in Rome. Am I crazy to think Diego has a legit shot at taking Nadal?

impossible at RG, maybe in 5/6 years time but no one is beating him here for the forseeable....

The tournament is a total joke at this stage.

07-10-2020 10:44am

Hector Savage wrote: »

impossible at RG, maybe in 5/6 years time but no one is beating him here for the forseeable....

The tournament is a total joke at this stage.

The bookies must have it so so wrong then

https://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/mens#winner

Djokovic and the wizened prune are neck and neck in the odds stakes

Joe_ Public · 07-10-2020 11:01am

So many surprises in womens won't be shocked if kvitova loses to siegemund. Don't know what the record is for attempted drop shots but i'm betting siegemund will smash it this morning.

Hector Savage · 07-10-2020 11:24am

glasso wrote: »

The bookies must have it so so wrong then

https://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/french-open/mens#winner

Djokovic and the wizened prune are neck and neck in the odds stakes

Bookies don't have a clue, lets talk on Sunday, I have money on Nadal anyway, I got them at 2.50 .... idiots throwing money away.

walshb · 07-10-2020 12:55pm

I am still sticking to my prediction that Nole or Nadal won't win this title..

Anyway, it's a bit sad on clay that an "old" man, Nadal, as good as he is is not being beaten by stronger and younger men...

Nole in the QFs today?

07-10-2020 1:18pm

walshb wrote: »

I am still sticking to my prediction that Nole or Nadal won't win this title..

Anyway, it's a bit sad on clay that an "old" man, Nadal, as good as he is is not being beaten by stringer and younger men...

Nole in the QFs today?

Nadal even though he has started looking 50 (he mustn't like sunscreen) is 34 - not all that surprising that he can still compete especially in modern times with much better body maintenance knowledge, nutrition and training than there was even 10 years ago.

Agassi was still getting to GS finals at 35 and that was 15 years ago and lifetimes ago effectively in terms of athletes being able to compete longer at the highest level.

walshb · 07-10-2020 1:33pm

glasso wrote: »

Nadal even though he has started looking 50 (he mustn't like sunscreen) is 34 - not all that surprising that he can still compete especially in modern times with much better body maintenance knowledge, nutrition and training than there was even 10 years ago.

Agassi was still getting to GS finals at 35 and that was 15 years ago and lifetimes ago effectively in terms of athletes being able to compete longer at the highest level.

I get that, but he is still number 1 on clay....clay is a damn tough surface....

It's a little sad that 16 years on he is still the man to beat on this surface....

07-10-2020 1:39pm

walshb wrote: »

I am still sticking to my prediction that Nole or Nadal won't win this title..

Well only one of them can win the title

walshb · 07-10-2020 3:46pm

glasso wrote: »

Well only one of them can win the title

Meant to say AND....

Hoping one, or both lose their next match now to keep my prediction...

Girly Gal · 07-10-2020 4:12pm

walshb wrote: »

Meant to say AND....

Hoping one, or both lose their next match now to keep my prediction...

Be great to see another new slam winner, but, highly unlikely. More than likely, one will beat the other in the final. I'd put Djokovic as favourite.

josip · 07-10-2020 6:03pm

Djokovic seems to have a niggle and has been broken in the first set.

07-10-2020 6:16pm

walshb wrote: »

I get that, but he is still number 1 on clay....clay is a damn tough surface....

It's a little sad that 16 years on he is still the man to beat on this surface....

Well he is the undisputed clay GOAT and that doggedness and obsessive compulsive disorder thing that he has going on means that he'll keep going and giving his all until he can't.

Girly Gal · 07-10-2020 6:19pm

glasso wrote: »

Well he is the undisputed clay GOAT and that doggedness and obsessive compulsive disorder thing that he has going on means that he'll keep going and giving his all until he can't.

That doggedness he has is his greatest strength, never gives and never gives in

walshb · 07-10-2020 6:28pm

Nole a set down..

Royale with Cheese · 07-10-2020 6:29pm

Moping around the court letting everyone know he has a problem. He does this all time, usually followed by him upping a gear and trouncing his opponent. The alternative though is he goes a break or two down in this set and then just quits.

07-10-2020 6:29pm

Doesn't seem fully right so far Djokovic - whether it's something that he can shake off or more serious remains to be seen.

First set that he has lost this championship they said.

07-10-2020 6:44pm

Djokovic hanging on at the moment.

CB threw away a break there

07-10-2020 6:56pm

He's a break up but still hanging on!

seligehgit · 07-10-2020 8:57pm

Very enjoyable contest.

Nole was very impressive.

The king of clay Rafa will be have his hands full if they meet.

Vamos Nadal.

Carreno Busta alongside young Sinner has a bright future.

dominatinMC · 07-10-2020 9:06pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Very enjoyable contest.

Nole was very impressive.

The king of clay Rafa will be have his hands full if they meet.

Vamos Nadal.

Carreno Busta alongside young Sinner has a bright future.

I must have been watching a different match to you. Thought he struggled throughout against a fairly limited PCB. First set was shocking, Djokovic definitely raised his level afterwards but seems to be a physical issue there.

07-10-2020 9:59pm

ND was not exactly fully right but CB wasn't exactly a world-beater tonight so he (ND) could get through.

Depends on how the bicep thing (left) gets sorted / sorts itself out.

seligehgit · 07-10-2020 10:14pm

dominatinMC wrote: »

I must have been watching a different match to you. Thought he struggled throughout against a fairly limited PCB. First set was shocking, Djokovic definitely raised his level afterwards but seems to be a physical issue there.

Apologies

He was poor in the first set.

The neck/arm injury seemed to impede him in that first set.

I thought Carreno Busta played well but failed to capitalise on his opportunities.

This only my opinion.:)

Rjd2 · 07-10-2020 10:39pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Very enjoyable contest.

Nole was very impressive.

The king of clay Rafa will be have his hands full if they meet.

Vamos Nadal.

Carreno Busta alongside young Sinner has a bright future.

Carreno is 29 which in tennis terms is somewhat old.:p

He is what he is, a limited version of Ferrer, nothing wrong with that, got to the US open semi final last month. I don't expect him to clear up whatsoever but he can vulture some events once the oldies slow down .

Sinner though is obviously the real deal.

josip · 08-10-2020 12:00pm

Did Busta say/imply after the match that Djokovic's supposed injury was just gamesmanship?

whiterebel · 08-10-2020 12:08pm

josip wrote: »

Did Busta say/imply after the match that Djokovic's supposed injury was just gamesmanship?

Thats what it looked like to me, anyway.

08-10-2020 2:27pm

https://tennishead.net/djokovic-accused-of-feigning-injury-by-carreno-busta-he-has-been-doing-it-for-years/

“He didn’t surprise me [that he asked for a physio],” Carreno Busta told the press of Djokovic.

“It’s a good thing. It’s a sign that he is losing and that I was playing well, because he always does that.

“It’s something that he has been doing for years. When he is down, he asks for the trainer.”

Djokovic will now face Stefanos Tsitsipas on Friday for a place in the final – his first top ten opponent since the Australian Open in January.

Well Djokovic didn't seem to be moving that well to me until into the second set - he didn't even move to go for some shots.

He said

https://tennishead.net/i-had-some-pain-but-i-dont-want-to-reveal-too-much-says-novak-djokovic-after-quarterfinal-win/

“I had some neck issues and some shoulders issues, I don’t want to reveal too much as I am still in the tournament,” Novak Djokovic explained. “Pain faded away as the match went on and I warmed up.

“I don’t want to sound like I’m complaining and obviously he was a better player for a set and a half. I was hitting myself, which I don’t recommend.

“I definitely didn’t feel great on the court for an hour, hour and a half. I definitely didn’t feel great coming into the court today.

“A few things happened in the warmup. I had to deal with those physical issues coming onto the court.

“As the pain went on, I felt much better. I didn’t feel as much pain.

“But, you know, I don’t want to take away anything from his good performance. Especially for a set and a half he was the better player, dictating the play.

“I was very neutral. I didn’t have much of energy really happening in my legs or movement or game itself. It took me about a set and a half to get comfortable and start really playing the way I should.

08-10-2020 2:33pm

Djokovic's new tactic to vent his frustration seems to be to hit himself with the racket.

Fair enough considering he gave away a certain Grand Slam in New York.

lostcat · 08-10-2020 4:09pm

josip wrote: »

Did Busta say/imply after the match that Djokovic's supposed injury was just gamesmanship?

He did more than imply it.

funny kind of gamesmanship to give up the first set.....

2020 French Open

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