Scrabble to ban the word "culchie" in America.

EmmetSpiceland · 13-07-2020 7:26pm

cdeb wrote: »

Yeah, not sure about that one Emmet. Where's the bogballers and the stickfighters?

(We are allowed to refer to bogballers and stickfighters, yeah?)

Well, technically, they’d be a subset of Culchie, Jackeen and Nordie. The great levellers.

Vita nova · 13-07-2020 7:33pm

cdeb wrote: »

Have you no sense of humour whatsoever at all?

Rather presumptuous to think that because I don't share your sense of humour that I don't have one. Actually, I like to think I have a good sense of humour but I just don't find this to be particularly funny.

EmmetSpiceland · 13-07-2020 7:35pm

Vita nova wrote: »

Rather presumptuous to think that because I don't share your sense of humour that I don't have one. Actually, I like to think I have a good sense of humour but I just don't find this to be particularly funny.

Are you a Nordie? You’re sounding a lot like one here.

cdeb · 13-07-2020 7:46pm

I think this whole "culchie" thing is cutting a little close to the bone for some reason...

Kylta · 13-07-2020 9:29pm

I've already asked this so ill try again.
Has any person who deem themslves culchies, have you been personally called a culchie to your face in recent years? Or for that matter any name that you think is derogatory to you living outside dublin?

gourcuff · 20-07-2020 10:32am

As an Irishman who is not from Dublin these are the terms i would be most familiar with. Obviously Irish people dont go around calling each other culchies, this seems like a very dublin centric thing. Maybe some sort of narrow minded echo chamber amongst the hood kids who have never left Dublin?.

Would never call Donegal people northies either, thats strictly a term to ref the 6 counties.

Hard to square the elite from Bearna driving their new Range Rovers being called culchies (in the pejorative sense - i.e. an unsophisticated country person) but then again the people who use that term typically wouldn't be well traveled or educated so its probably just a blanket cover all term for them.

riclad · 20-07-2020 10:47pm

It's not an insult, mostly Dublin people use it to refer to people in rural areas, maybe the USA equivalent is redneck.
I doubt if any non Irish people use this word.
I think the word is nordie, there's no such word as northie. In reference to a previous post in this thread. If I want to insult people I can think of other words much stronger to use, eg scumbag

Vita nova · 21-07-2020 10:15am

riclad wrote: »

It's not an insult, mostly Dublin people use it to refer to people in rural areas, maybe the USA equivalent is redneck.
I doubt if any non Irish people use this word.
I think the word is nordie, there's no such word as northie. In reference to a previous post in this thread. If I want to insult people I can think of other words much stronger to use, eg scumbag

Whether one considers it to be an insult is subjective, it's a synonym for an unsophisticated ruralite and some consider it insulting, others don't. To some people it's a different and far worse type of insult than scumbag because they see it as an insult based solely on where someone comes from and their background and it's simultaneously insulting their friends and family from the same background.

In general more weight is given to how someone perceives a word than how it's intended, for example, in the workplace if you told HR that you didn't use a particular word as an insult but your counterpart said they considered it to be one then HR would most likely tell you to desist rather than telling your counterpart to grow a thicker skin.

MOH · 21-07-2020 10:26am

Vita nova wrote: »

Whether one considers it to be an insult is subjective, it's a synonym for an unsophisticated ruralite and some consider it insulting, others don't. To some people it's a different and far worse type of insult than scumbag because they see it as an insult based solely on where someone comes from and their background and it's simultaneously insulting their friends and family from the same background.

In general more weight is given to how someone perceives a word than how it's intended, for example, in the workplace if you told HR that you didn't use a particular word as an insult but your counterpart said they considered it to be one then HR would most likely tell you to desist rather than telling your counterpart to grow a thicker skin.

I choose to find the word "counterpart" to be highly offensive. I'll be reporting your disgustingly abusive post

cdeb · 21-07-2020 10:28am

Vita nova wrote: »

Whether one considers it to be an insult is subjective, it's a synonym for an unsophisticated ruralite and some consider it insulting, others don't. To some people it's a different and far worse type of insult than scumbag because they see it as an insult based solely on where someone comes from and their background and it's simultaneously insulting their friends and family from the same background.

In general more weight is given to how someone perceives a word than how it's intended, for example, in the workplace if you told HR that you didn't use a particular word as an insult but your counterpart said they considered it to be one then HR would most likely tell you to desist rather than telling your counterpart to grow a thicker skin.

Show me one person who considers "culchie" a worse insult than "scumbag"?

You keep blathering on about its etymology and then say that "In general more weight is given to how someone perceives a word than how it's intended" - yet no-one has said they're offended by the word. The only people giving out about it are people taking offence on behalf of others who may be offended because of its meaning. That's inherently contradictory.

Kylta · 21-07-2020 11:51am

I'm a dub and proud of it, you can call me anything you want in regards to being from dublin and because I'm proud of being a dub it just makes me prouder. So in the same breath if I was from the country I'd be proud to be called a culchie. Now im sure there a country folk that the word culchie is a word and has no relevance to them whatsoever in their daily lives. What I can't understand is the whiny moany people constantly have nothing in their lives only to bitch about the word culchie. I'd imagine their are normal country folk are disgusted at the whimpish attitude of some of their own. So for the wimpy pathetic moaning culchie who's an embarrassment to real culchies I say change your logo to gimp culchies lives matter. GCl matter

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 10:04am

Kylta wrote: »

I'm a dub and proud of it, you can call me anything you want in regards to being from dublin and because I'm proud of being a dub it just makes me prouder. So in the same breath if I was from the country I'd be proud to be called a culchie. Now im sure there a country folk that the word culchie is a word and has no relevance to them whatsoever in their daily lives. What I can't understand is the whiny moany people constantly have nothing in their lives only to bitch about the word culchie. I'd imagine their are normal country folk are disgusted at the whimpish attitude of some of their own. So for the wimpy pathetic moaning culchie who's an embarrassment to real culchies I say change your logo to gimp culchies lives matter. GCl matter

never understood taking so much pride in something you had nothing to do with though, its not an achievement.

So many howiyas take so many pride in the random place the council decided to house their family, - its bizarre.

I think most irish people who are not from Dublin like where they are from, in a sporting arena where their home town or home county wins i am sure they take pride in that, but just being proud of being inside an arbitrary line on a map is a bit bizarre.

Kylta · 22-07-2020 10:29am

gourcuff wrote: »

never understood taking so much pride in something you had nothing to do with though, its not an achievement.

So many howiyas take so many pride in the random place the council decided to house their family, - its bizarre.

I think most irish people who are not from Dublin like where they are from, in a sporting arena where their home town or home county wins i am sure they take pride in that, but just being proud of being inside an arbitrary line on a map is a bit bizarre.

Maybe you need to be a dub to understand being a dub. Are you not proud of where your from? Is there a football club or gaa club your proud off that represents who you are and where your from that makes you proud. Now to tell the truth the making the culchie saying like a racist saying is a load of bollix. Again as all you country folk are like politicians (when it comes to answering questions) im still waiting on one of my country cousins, to tell when was the last time they were actually called a culchie to your face, not on line?

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 10:42am

Kylta wrote: »

Maybe you need to be a dub to understand being a dub. Are you not proud of where your from? Is there a football club or gaa club your proud off that represents who you are and where your from that makes you proud. Now to tell theme truth the making the culchie saying like a racist saying is a load of bollix. Again as all you country folk are like politicians (when it comes to answering questions) im still waiting on one of my country cousins, to tell when was the last time they were actually called a culchie to your face, not on line?

Like i said its not an achievement. Maybe a new yorker might take pride in how their city responded after 9/11, but just over the bridge and you are from new jersey. So its bizarre to take so much pride in something so arbitrary.

And most globally important cities are such a melting pot of people its not like the city is a perfect illustration of the qualities of the natives in any event.
The natives are usually so diluted the success of the place is precisely because its ability to attract migrants from other parts of the country or the world.

The language in your post is very trumpian, " all you country folk are like". How can you box 3.5 million people into the exact same behaviours and mannerisms? Its incredibly narrow minded.

I don't think Irish people all over the world particularly care what people call them, terms like this are in the main used by the uneducated, untraveled narrow minded types with a chip on their shoulder. It would never be used in a professional setting, probably because in a lot of cases the boss is a non dub.

awec · 22-07-2020 11:39am

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

A “subset” of Culchies, Q.

This should help anyone still unsure of whether they are a Culchie, or not. Close enough, anyway.

I've never been called a "northie". Should be nordie surely?

EmmetSpiceland · 22-07-2020 11:45am

awec wrote: »

I've never been called a "northie". Should be nordie surely?

Yes, the map makes it sound very proper. “Nordie” would be how I’d spell it too. And, to be honest, I’d include the Donegal folk in there. You’d hardly call them “Culchies”, like.

Again, I don’t see anything “negative” in Nordie, just as I wouldn’t in Culchie. They’re just, general, descriptive terms.

TheW1zard · 22-07-2020 11:55am

Fun Fact: Comes from the lads in their Geansaís studying Agricultural Science in UCD.
No one from Dublin was doing the course and so they were the culchies

EmmetSpiceland · 22-07-2020 12:00pm

TheW1zard wrote: »

Fun Fact: Comes from the lads in their Geansaís studying Agricultural Science in UCD.
No one from Dublin was doing the course and so they were the culchies

Were they the ones chewing the turf? I heard it came from the “sound” of chewing big lumps of wet turf.

TheW1zard · 22-07-2020 12:11pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Were they the ones chewing the turf? I heard it came from the “sound” of chewing big lumps of wet turf.

:D:D

mikecope · 22-07-2020 2:04pm

TheW1zard wrote: »

Fun Fact: Comes from the lads in their Geansaís studying Agricultural Science in UCD.
No one from Dublin was doing the course and so they were the culchies

Fun fake fact, I'd say.

Kylta · 22-07-2020 2:11pm

gourcuff wrote: »

Like i said its not an achievement. Maybe a new yorker might take pride in how their city responded after 9/11, but just over the bridge and you are from new jersey. So its bizarre to take so much pride in something so arbitrary.

And most globally important cities are such a melting pot of people its not like the city is a perfect illustration of the qualities of the natives in any event.
The natives are usually so diluted the success of the place is precisely because its ability to attract migrants from other parts of the country or the world.

The language in your post is very trumpian, " all you country folk are like". How can you box 3.5 million people into the exact same behaviours and mannerisms? Its incredibly narrow minded.

I don't think Irish people all over the world particularly care what people call them, terms like this are in the main used by the uneducated, untraveled narrow minded types with a chip on their shoulder. It would never be used in a professional setting, probably because in a lot of cases the boss is a non dub.

So basically what your trying to say is your a culchie with a chip on his shoulder. And from reading that post I'd say your one of the whiny ones who probably always secretly wanted be a dub. Now I see were you frustration comes from. I suppose your high up the echelons of gimp culchie lives matter.

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 2:23pm

Kylta wrote: »

So basically what your trying to say is your a culchie with a chip on his shoulder. And from reading that post I'd say your one of the whiny ones who probably always secretly wanted be a dub. Now I see were you frustration comes from. I suppose your high up the echelons of gimp culchie lives matter.

yes you're right, everyone in the world wants to be a howiya

from reading my post accusing you of having a chip on your shoulder - you now think i have one.. genius

Kylta · 22-07-2020 2:32pm

gourcuff wrote: »

yes you're right, everyone in the world wants to be a howiya

from reading my post accusing you of having a chip on your shoulder - you now think i have one.. genius

Its ok relax, I might be able to make you an honorary dub. But you will have to give up the vice presidency of the C/G/L matter club
Oh and you will have stop your whiny ways because even your fellow culchies don't like small minded little cry babies. So if you can manage to be a man for abit, I might make at least make you a dub for a day. Think of it when one of your own calls you a jackeen well you might even get a little stiffy out of it.

gourcuff · 22-07-2020 2:37pm

a guy who starts sentences with "all you country folk are like" accuses someone else of being small minded - hilarious...

you must have been king of the debate team in the local howiya deis school..

Necro · 22-07-2020 3:35pm

Mod:

Cut out the back and forth pettiness.

Scrabble to ban the word "culchie" in America.

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