Mass Effect Trilogy remastered

Gbear · 03-02-2021 12:05pm

Yeah, the quality of the games isn't really mechanical (either the mechanics of interacting with the world, or of storytelling). It's more about the sense of scale, the sense of exploration in a huge galaxy, the inter-personal interactions, the cinematic quality to a lot of the set pieces and that sort of thing.

They've seemingly gotten better with the game mechanics over time, but have arguably gotten worse at putting a story together.

03-02-2021 12:33pm

Just make resource hunting easier, please

Zero-Cool · 03-02-2021 12:38pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Just make resource hunting easier, please

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvbmKWMhjb0

Retr0gamer · 03-02-2021 12:39pm

I feel the only reason they had resource gathering in Mass Effect was for the Uranus jokes.

Gbear · 03-02-2021 1:06pm

I actually think the probe minigame wasn't far off being good. It was a good idea. I suspect they just didn't have the resources to properly fill it up with different content.

If you needed to use it to find stuff for missions - hidden bases and what have you, and if they added a few randomised missions in as well, they halved the amount of probes needed to spend on finding resources (you actually only need about 30 or so to max out everything), adding in some other kinds of bonuses - tech, weapons, etc, and it would've been a good, interactive way to get the player to explore the galaxy.

Bioware kinda seemed to throw stuff in the bin rather than refine it from game to game. They pretty much totally removed equipment in game 2, and only brought it back in game 3. They binned the open world exploration from ME and didn't bring it back until Andromeda.

Zero-Cool · 03-02-2021 1:07pm

I wonder how the war assets in ME 3 will work as the multiplayer game contributed to it. Now there is no multiplayer, I hope it's easier to get top war asset rank.

fixXxer · 03-02-2021 1:14pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

True, I ended up losing Wrex in ME1 and no way of changing the outcome as I wasn't paragon enough. It's a really stupid binary system that just doesn't work but being the goody two shoes all the time is soooooo boring. It's what I hated about western RPGs, well Bioware ones as they are very poorly, they give you choice but there's only one real answer. Actually doing roleplaying made Mass effect so much more interesting.

I always found the Dragon Age system more rewarding where different team mates react to what you do based on their personal beliefs. You do what suits you and deal with the consequences of what that means for your squad.

Retr0gamer · 03-02-2021 1:21pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I wonder how the war assets in ME 3 will work as the multiplayer game contributed to it. Now there is no multiplayer, I hope it's easier to get top war asset rank.

I never indulged in the multiplayer at all and never did any grinding for war assets, just did all the side content. I had more than enough by the end of the game. Multiplayer was never really a requirement to get enough war assets.

03-02-2021 1:22pm

Word is the Pinnacle Station DLC won't be included due to the code being corrupted. I can't even recall if that was any good or not or if I even played it

Zero-Cool · 03-02-2021 1:25pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I never indulged in the multiplayer at all and never did any grinding for war assets, just did all the side content. I had more than enough by the end of the game. Multiplayer was never really a requirement to get enough war assets.

I know you needed a high score for the 'proper ending' but can't remember how hard that was. I played a bit of multiplayer, was actually really good so not sure of the effect its absence would have. Good to know.

Destroy with Shep still alive under the rubble. Looks like the Next Mass Effect might use that ending as canon.

jimbob_jones · 03-02-2021 2:12pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I know you needed a high score for the 'proper ending' but can't remember how hard that was. I played a bit of multiplayer, was actually really good so not sure of the effect its absence would have. Good to know.
Destroy with Shep still alive under the rubble. Looks like the Next Mass Effect might use that ending as canon.

I think when it was first launched it was difficult enough because the EMS rating you had ticked down over time.

EA launched a mobile site where you could build your EMS rating with tasks on this site.

I did if for a while but lost interest to be honest

Zero-Cool · 03-02-2021 3:33pm

FemShep herself reacting to the trailer.

https://twitter.com/jhaletweets/status/1356766360202711040

Zero-Cool · 03-02-2021 3:50pm

I see it's 70 quid on PSN store which I would be happy to pay for all that content but with EA play, you get it for 63 euro. EA Play is 4 quid a month or 1 euro for your first month if you're a new member. I already had it before but looks like I can get the 1 euro offer again, says off is valid until March.

EoinMcLovin · 03-02-2021 6:40pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I see it's 70 quid on PSN store which I would be happy to pay for all that content but with EA play, you get it for 63 euro. EA Play is 4 quid a month or 1 euro for your first month if you're a new member. I already had it before but looks like I can get the 1 euro offer again, says off is valid until March.

works out at around 50 euro if bought via US PSN. going to wait until preload actually starts to see if the dlc are separate downloads or included in the game file

Zero-Cool · 03-02-2021 7:16pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

works out at around 50 euro if bought via US PSN. going to wait until preload actually starts to see if the dlc are separate downloads or included in the game file

I wonder if it will have the early play on EA Play as well? If so, I'd definitely get the Irish version with a sub of EA Play

Potential-Monke · 03-02-2021 8:38pm

Hah, finally get some used from the EA Play sub so!

03-02-2021 10:34pm

super_furry wrote: »

Would love even a non-remastered version for the Switch. I want to hang out Garrus while I take a dump.

it's not ruled out.... or confirmed either...

https://gonintendo.com/stories/376320-ea-hasn-t-ruled-out-mass-effect-legendary-edition-on-switch-just

murpho999 · 04-02-2021 2:22am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Hah, finally get some used from the EA Play sub so!

One of the benefits of Xbox now is free EA Pass with Gamepass.

I wonder do you have to start this from scratch or will it link to your old version of the game. I'm about 25% through first game and wonder would have to start again on new edition or just continuie?

Potential-Monke · 04-02-2021 8:27am

Yeah, Sony should do the same with Now, bundle Play with it. It's only €25 and if you don't mind waiting a year for most yearly EA games it most certainly pays for itself.

Regarding the saves, I don't think they'll work. If it was something they were doing, I'm sure it would be announced along with everything else so far. It hasn't been confirmed or denied though.

Just read this from VG247 with the changes, mainly focused on getting the original to feel like 2/3 and 2/3 having the least amount of changes. I like the sound of it tbh. Sign me up!

McFly85 · 04-02-2021 8:41am

Are there abilities/perks tied to the morality system or does it just affect the story?

If your response choices are always good/neutral/bad then they may as well ask you which one you want to play as at the start, save the hassle of having to choose hundreds of times

Zero-Cool · 04-02-2021 9:35am

McFly85 wrote: »

Are there abilities/perks tied to the morality system or does it just affect the story?

If your response choices are always good/neutral/bad then they may as well ask you which one you want to play as at the start, save the hassle of having to choose hundreds of times

As far as I can remember, it just affects stories like 2 squad crew can be fighting and you have to side with one while losing the loyalty of the other which isn't good. You can keep loyalty with both by having a high enough paragon/renegade meter so it's important to keep your squad happy and alive by choosing one path. As Retro said, if you play how you like, you should have a much more interesting time but expect a good bit of loss.

I forgot about Andromeda but they got rid of the system for that:

Mass Effect: Andromeda abandoned the Morality System. Pathfinder Ryder's current conversation choices no longer determine future gameplay consequences.

The developers at Bioware felt that players were too often deciding to make a Paragon or Renegade choice for their character based on a predetermined personality, regardless of the context of the conversation.

J. Marston · 04-02-2021 3:24pm

Those gratutious camera shots of Miranda's arse that took up 80% of the screen are no more...

‘Kevin actually called out some camera cuts that were just… why was that focusing on Miranda’s butt? So in some cases we said, ‘Okay, we can make a change there’.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/02/mass...shep-but-not-the-ending-14008330/?ito=cbshare

A sad day for the parish.

Zero-Cool · 04-02-2021 3:27pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Those gratutious camera shots of Miranda's arse that took up 80% of the screen are no more...

A sad day for the parish.

Preorder cancelled

Azza · 04-02-2021 3:30pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Those gratutious camera shots of Miranda's arse that took up 80% of the screen are no more...

A sad day for the parish.

I assume the changes being made are due to complaints that her arse wasn't taking up enough of the screen and they are are merely changing the angles to increase arse coverage to 90-95% of the screen.

J. Marston · 04-02-2021 8:19pm

Azza wrote: »

I assume the changes being made are due to complaints that her arse wasn't taking up enough of the screen and they are are merely changing the angles to increase arse coverage to 90-95% of the screen.

The update...

Mitch Connor · 04-02-2021 10:40pm

can the legendary cache edition be bought here? Kinda want that helmet

Zero-Cool · 04-02-2021 10:59pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

can the legendary cache edition be bought here? Kinda want that helmet

Weird, i thought Gamestop would carry something like that.

I tried the audio book for Revelations but the guys voice was making me zone out. The positive being after just one chapter, I'm mad to read the full book. Was great hearing/reading about earth's reaction to finding the prothean tech on Mars and human's first trip through the Charon relay. Definitely gonna buy the book, i see it's only a fiver on Amazon, 6.50 on book depository, seems like it will be well worth it.

Potential-Monke · 04-02-2021 11:13pm

Ah that helmet is savage! Now I want the cache edition. Get on it GameStop!

Zero-Cool · 06-02-2021 1:03am

I forgot that ME3 had the reputation bar that increases for both Payson and Renegade actions showing you to mix up your character. I never saw the blog below taking about how they were aware that players felt punished for not going full paragon or Renegade in ME2. Mac Walters said they've even toned it down in the remaster. Would definitely want to hear more about that.

https://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/01/reputation-in-mass-effect-3/

https://twitter.com/macwalterslives/status/1357083291313037312?s=19

https://twitter.com/BrenonHolmes/status/1357092965303291905?s=19

Gamer Bhoy 89 · 06-02-2021 3:18am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

but ME1.... even at the time it was rough and needed serious work.

My only take-away from ME1 that never made sense even back then was using the fcking 'back' button to throw a grenade

J. Marston wrote: »

Those gratutious camera shots of Miranda's arse that took up 80% of the screen are no more...

A sad day for the parish.

Miranda after the update

Vicxas · 06-02-2021 10:15am

Removing gratuitous Miranda arse shots should be considered a humanitarian offense.

jones · 07-02-2021 1:28pm

Loved ME2 and ME3 to a lesser degree so will definitely pick this up at some stage. ME1 was pretty janky even back in the day so i'm assuming they have done serious work on it to bring it more in line

Spooch · 09-02-2021 6:12pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

can the legendary cache edition be bought here? Kinda want that helmet

149 dollars plus 75 dollars for shipping to Ireland. And it doesn't include the game. I want it, but not that badly

piwyudo0fhn57b · 09-02-2021 7:33pm

Looking forward to remastered Thane Krios!

Zero-Cool · 10-02-2021 8:55pm

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my 25th thousand post on the Citadel....

Zero-Cool · 14-02-2021 1:30am

I tried that audio book for Mass Effect Revelation. The bad, the guys voice makes me zone out, hard to concentrate on it. The good, just one chapter in and I'm loving it. The description of Earth's reaction to the prothean tech discovery on Mars (some think ee discovered it much sooner, some think a hoax, some religions changing their scripture to include it to make sure their God still has a place), Grissom's background of leading the first voyage through a Mass Effect Relay, Anderson being called up for an important mission.

Was so interesting, i ordered a physical copy of book depository for €6.80.

Zero-Cool · 16-02-2021 9:04am

Unfortunately already confirmed that multiplayer is the only thing not included in the remaster. I'd love to know why though. Probably so they don't have to spend any resources on it and focus on other games/next ME instead but i agree, i would absolutely love it if it was included

Markitron · 16-02-2021 9:55am

I'm legit shocked that EA have removed the only part of the series that had microtransactions.

Markitron · 16-02-2021 10:26am

RopeDrink wrote: »

To be fair, said microtransactions were ignorable.

I don't mean to change the subject, but this makes them no less devious. Some people can ignore them but they prey upon the minority that can't. One of the best known examples is actually ME3.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-10-23-manveer-heir-bioware-mass-effect-ea-monetisation

Kiith · 16-02-2021 11:37am

ME3 multiplayer was the stupidest idea ever...until it wasn't, and was absolutely brilliant. I'll happily say i was completely wrong when they announced it.

Shame its not coming back, but i wasn't really expecting it.

Markitron · 16-02-2021 12:07pm

Kiith wrote: »

ME3 multiplayer was the stupidest idea ever...until it wasn't, and was absolutely brilliant. I'll happily say i was completely wrong when they announced it.

Shame its not coming back, but i wasn't really expecting it.

I think a lot of people expected a repeat of Dead Space 2's EA-mandated multiplayer.

Falthyron · 16-02-2021 12:23pm

One way to guarantee additional sales for Mass Effect 4: the return of the much-loved multiplayer experience of ME3 in the all new Mass Effect.

I wouldn't be surprised. It is EA, after all.

gizmo · 16-02-2021 12:28pm

RopeDrink wrote: »

God, what is it with game companies not recognizing the good things they still have, especially when they involve active servers and constant activity throughout all these years.

The problem will be on the console side. The online infrastructure on both platforms has changed considerably since those games were first released and the work required to refactor their implementation in UE3 to support them will likely have been deemed not worth it.

Kiith kind of nailed the reaction to it too, it was fascinating to watch the reaction to it change over time and while I'm still not a fan of how it tied into the Galactic Readiness rating in the story and the mixed messaging as to the extent it was required in order to get any particular ending, I have to admit I enjoyed my admittedly limited time with it.

Varik · 16-02-2021 5:52pm

I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that there's a plan for a f2p micro transaction MP mode to release along side the future game.

Kiith wrote: »

ME3 multiplayer was the stupidest idea ever...until it wasn't, and was absolutely brilliant. I'll happily say i was completely wrong when they announced it.

Shame its not coming back, but i wasn't really expecting it.

There were a load of MP modes added to generally SP games around that time.

A lot of publisher trying to fight off trade ins, but a good few of them turned out to be good.

Mitch Connor · 23-02-2021 1:24pm

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/limited-edition-garrus-vakarian-statue-up-for-preorder-ahead-of-mass-effect-legendary-edition/1100-6487894/?TheTime=2021-02-22T22%3A04%3A55&ftag=ftag%3DGSS-05-10aab8e&UniqueID=FF1780A2-7559-11EB-B6AD-4C19933C408C&ServiceType=twitter&PostType=image

OH COME ON!?

I already can't get the Legendary cache this side of the water and now this? AAARRRGGHHH.

Zero-Cool · 23-02-2021 1:28pm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/limited-edition-garrus-vakarian-statue-up-for-preorder-ahead-of-mass-effect-legendary-edition/1100-6487894/?TheTime=2021-02-22T22%3A04%3A55&ftag=ftag%3DGSS-05-10aab8e&UniqueID=FF1780A2-7559-11EB-B6AD-4C19933C408C&ServiceType=twitter&PostType=image

OH COME ON!?

I already can't get the Legendary cache this side of the water and now this? AAARRRGGHHH.

Ya bollox, I thought this was about a delay

. Then reading the article, they say it is a March release date which is obviously wrong. That statue is absolutely savage!

Mitch Connor · 23-02-2021 1:47pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Ya bollox, I thought this was about a delay . Then reading the article, they say it is a March release date which is obviously wrong. That statue is absolutely savage!

You can't even buy the statue and legendary cache together to split the postage on them - if you buy them off the Bioware site you have to pay 75euro (iirc) per item.

I was close to justifying it, but that amount on top put me off. Plus, I assume, import charges.

_CreeD_ · 23-02-2021 3:27pm

There's always Etsy, there's an awful lot of folks out there with 3d printers.

Zero-Cool · 04-03-2021 8:53pm

EA Play still has its new offer of 1 euro for first month until 9th march. I got it even though i was a member before, got ME trilogy preorder then for 63 euro with the discount.

https://twitter.com/EAPlay/status/1367508423743569935?s=19

Zero-Cool · 06-04-2021 5:54pm

Blog breakdown of the rebalancing, tuning and mechanical improvements.

Interesting, Galactic readiness in the 3rd game is impacted by playing ME 1 & 2 now. If you just play 3, you'll have to play just about everything in it to get a good rating. All weapons open to all classes now thankfully and trophies retweaked to span all games.

https://www.ea.com/games/mass-effect/mass-effect-legendary-edition/news/gameplay-calibrations?utm_campaign=mele_hd_ww_ic_soco_twt_me-gameplay-fb&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cid=68230&ts=1617725451646&isLocalized=true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL-7-2dL0A0

Mass Effect Trilogy remastered

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