Gemma O'Doherty - Part 2 - Read OP for mod warning (06/01)

Baggly · 06-01-2021 3:06pm

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Both of you done in this thread. Dont post again. My warning is less than 10 posts ago.

Beasty · 06-01-2021 5:58pm

I am closing this thread while I have a look through it

To be clear none of us are in a position to determine a cause of death. To speculate is potentially prejudicial to any formal investigation. Please await the conclusion of any official investigation

Beasty · 06-01-2021 6:09pm

A large number of posts deleted

The tragic death of the Garda is completely off topic. Anyone even mentioning it will be subject to a minimum threadban

abff · 08-01-2021 11:11am

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but what’s happening (or has happened) in relation to the legal costs related to the case that Gemma O’Doherty and John Waters took against the State?

My understanding is that costs were awarded against them. Have any steps been taken to recover these costs?

funkey_monkey · 08-01-2021 11:19pm

I hadn't seen this before - the troubles were staged! The woman is away with the birds.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/10/12/news/gemma-o-doherty-lambasted-for-claiming-troubles-may-have-been-staged-event--2094542/

Mr Meanor · 09-01-2021 2:36am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I hadn't seen this before - the troubles were staged! The woman is away with the birds.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/10/12/news/gemma-o-doherty-lambasted-for-claiming-troubles-may-have-been-staged-event--2094542/

I think over three and a half thousand dead people might have disagreed with her statement.

Mike Murdock · 09-01-2021 12:50pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I hadn't seen this before - the troubles were staged! The woman is away with the birds.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/10/12/news/gemma-o-doherty-lambasted-for-claiming-troubles-may-have-been-staged-event--2094542/

She needs to be sectioned.

Mad_maxx · 09-01-2021 12:51pm

Mike Murdock wrote: »

She needs to be sectioned.

listening to that line gets tiresome

have you any idea just how difficult it is to section someone in this country in 2021 ?

Mike Murdock · 09-01-2021 12:55pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

listening to that line gets tiresome

have you any idea just how difficult it is to section someone in this country in 2021 ?

Yes, but the point still stands.

She needs help.

abff · 09-01-2021 1:31pm

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Yes, but the point still stands.

She needs help.

That’s one way of putting it.

Her behaviour is vile and I’m not convinced that it can be excused by attributing it to some form of mental illness.

Yes, it would be great if there was some legitimate way of preventing her from spreading her vitriol. But trying to get her committed is probably not the way to do this.

PhoneMain · 09-01-2021 1:43pm

Mike Murdock wrote: »

Yes, but the point still stands.

She needs help.

She may need help but if she's not causing acute harm to herself or others she cant be involuntatily admitted under the Mental Health Act - no matter how much you dont like her.

pinkyeye · 10-01-2021 2:15am

PhoneMain wrote: »

She may need help but if she's not causing acute harm to herself or others she cant be involuntatily admitted under the Mental Health Act - no matter how much you dont like her.

In all honesty though she is causing serious harm to herself.

Through mental illness she will always be known as this hateful, disgusting person.

How is she supposed to come back from that and recover when it's discovered that she had some form of breakdown and had no idea what she was going on about?

Dank Janniels · 10-01-2021 2:54am

I reckon with the week that was and all that happened she might maybe get some clarity and tone it down abit. Same goes for the other right wing talking heads, they dont want rise their heads too far above the parapet incase of being deplatformed also

Hellotonever · 10-01-2021 3:10am

abff wrote: »

That’s one way of putting it.

Her behaviour is vile and I’m not convinced that it can be excused by attributing it to some form of mental illness.

Yes, it would be great if there was some legitimate way of preventing her from spreading her vitriol. But trying to get her committed is probably not the way to do this.

Cant have it both ways. It's just a matter of time until someone bricks her brain at this rate. She really is protected by the very laws and government she claims to be oppressing her.

Nokia6230i · 10-01-2021 3:12am

Dank Janniels wrote: »

I reckon with the week that was and all that happened she might maybe get some clarity and tone it down abit. Same goes for the other right wing talking heads, they dont want rise their heads too far above the parapet incase of being deplatformed also

They don't care; Mr. Miller of Yellow Vests Ireland, Mr. Heasman @ his anti RTE (Rte aren't Catholic enough despite Daily Masses, Weekend Masses, toe-ing the Iona Institute line in the Panti Bliss incident on the Brendan O'Connor Show, pulling the WWN satirical sketch this week, Urbi et Orbi, Easter Ceremonies on Holy Thursday/Good Friday/Hold Saturday/Easter Sunday, Christmas Eve Carol Service, Christmas Eve & Christmas Day Masses and I think they do something New Years Day too), Dolores & her crew of Flange, Sandra Giltrap etc.

They all parrot & echo each other; even if Gemma had a Eureka moment they'd still carry on.

I can't understand why the Irexit/IFP, Renua, National Party, Yellow Vests, Christian Solidarity & Jobs Party, Identity Ireland, Gemma, Andy, Graham, Ben, Dolores, Flange etc. all don't unite and form one party to at least have some chance?

Amont of times during the General Election you'd have muppets commenting under Candidate Xs Twitter feeds saying they'd be voting for them; then you point out they're both in different constituencies......dose!

Still though they do have some TDs leaning towards them as it is; Peadar Toibin, Michael McNamara, Michael Collins & MHR & DHR too; I'm probably omitting one or two too.

suicide_circus · 10-01-2021 3:41am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

I hadn't seen this before - the troubles were staged! The woman is away with the birds.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/10/12/news/gemma-o-doherty-lambasted-for-claiming-troubles-may-have-been-staged-event--2094542/

I can only presume she has no sane friends left who could stage an intervention/sectioning. She's clearly very unwell.

wiggle16 · 10-01-2021 5:26am

Nokia6230i wrote: »

They all parrot & echo each other; even if Gemma had a Eureka moment they'd still carry on.

I can't understand why the Irexit/IFP, Renua, National Party, Yellow Vests, Christian Solidarity & Jobs Party, Identity Ireland, Gemma, Andy, Graham, Ben, Dolores, Flange etc. all don't unite and form one party to at least have some chance?

Ego. At least that's what I think.

They are toxic, bigoted, narcissistic megalomaniacs - each of them wants the airspace to themselves and each of them wants to be the one who "saves" Ireland from the imaginary threats it faces. Because they each think they are the only one capable of doing so.

And if they won't listen to the overwhelming majority of people who disgree with them, I don't see why they would listen to one another. And I am very glad they don't appear to.

Wanderer78 · 10-01-2021 8:20am

Nokia6230i wrote:

I can't understand why the Irexit/IFP, Renua, National Party, Yellow Vests, Christian Solidarity & Jobs Party, Identity Ireland, Gemma, Andy, Graham, Ben, Dolores, Flange etc. all don't unite and form one party to at least have some chance?

A mix of lefties and righties, in one party! I can't see that working

BobbyMalone · 10-01-2021 9:33am

Nokia6230i wrote: »

I can't understand why the Irexit/IFP, Renua, National Party, Yellow Vests, Christian Solidarity & Jobs Party, Identity Ireland, Gemma, Andy, Graham, Ben, Dolores, Flange etc. all don't unite and form one party to at least have some chance?

Gemma and the head of the National Party, can't remember his name, are already at each other's throats and they're not even in the same party!

Wanderer78 wrote: »

A mix of lefties and righties, in one party! I can't see that working

Where are the lefties in that list?

Wanderer78 · 10-01-2021 9:58am

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Gemma and the head of the National Party, can't remember his name, are already at each other's throats and they're not even in the same party!

Where are the lefties in that list?

id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

BobbyMalone · 10-01-2021 10:01am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

There may be a few involved, but yellow vests and most certainly Irexit can be comfortable classed as right wing. Still though, they'd be like a bag of cats if they ever tried to form a political party.

sydthebeat · 10-01-2021 10:02am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

Yellow vests in Ireland are very very much a right wing / conspiracy theory group.

Annasopra · 10-01-2021 10:40am

Dank Janniels wrote: »

I reckon with the week that was and all that happened she might maybe get some clarity and tone it down abit. Same goes for the other right wing talking heads, they dont want rise their heads too far above the parapet incase of being deplatformed also

Ye what? Gemma was thrown off twitter, facebook snd youtube ages ago. Gemma tones up not down.

Annasopra · 10-01-2021 10:43am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

A mix of lefties and righties, in one party! I can't see that working

Lefties? Who?

Wanderer78 · 10-01-2021 10:44am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

BobbyMalone wrote: »

There may be a few involved, but yellow vests and most certainly Irexit can be comfortable classed as right wing. Still though, they'd be like a bag of cats if they ever tried to form a political party.

sydthebeat wrote: »

Yellow vests in Ireland are very very much a right wing / conspiracy theory group.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Lefties? Who?

as discussed....

Annasopra · 10-01-2021 10:45am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id class the yellow vests more left than anything, wouldnt surprise me if there was a few lefties involved in irexit to

Nah - Yellow Vests and Irexit are racist so definitely on the far right

Wanderer78 · 10-01-2021 10:46am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Nah - Yellow Vests and Irexit are racist so definitely on the far right

as discussed, id say theres a few lefties around there alright, but i do also accept, primarily righties

Annasopra · 10-01-2021 11:05am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

as discussed, id say theres a few lefties around there alright, but i do also accept, primarily righties

Ok but where is the evidence of these left wing yellow vest people. And its not righties. They are far right.

Wanderer78 · 10-01-2021 11:34am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Ok but where is the evidence of these left wing yellow vest people. And its not righties. They are far right.

am i right in saying some pbp folks were involved in yellow vest movements?

The Nal · 10-01-2021 12:28pm

Nokia6230i wrote: »

I can't understand why the Irexit/IFP, Renua, National Party, Yellow Vests, Christian Solidarity & Jobs Party, Identity Ireland, Gemma, Andy, Graham, Ben, Dolores, Flange etc. all don't unite and form one party to at least have some chance?

They're all full of hate and anger. Thats why mot of them spend their evenings talking into a laptop screen to the same few dozen people in an echo chamber.

Most of them are overly sensitive cowards aswell so they don't like opposing views.

TaurenDruid · 10-01-2021 12:36pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

am i right in saying some pbp folks were involved in yellow vest movements?

No, you're not.

It's quite possible some left-wingers were involved in the very early days of YVI, when it wasn't quite clear what it was and before it had its split and then one side of that split disappeared completely.

As soon as it did become clear that what remained was all far-right populism, that support disappeared.

Eric Cartman · 10-01-2021 12:37pm

Yellow vests most heavily associate with SF voters, conspiracy theorists arent always ‘far right’
Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

Annasopra · 10-01-2021 1:32pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

am i right in saying some pbp folks were involved in yellow vest movements?

No. When Yellow Vests started there was an alternative left wing yellow vest group that set up.

Coillte_Bhoy · 10-01-2021 1:37pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Yellow vests most heavily associate with SF voters, conspiracy theorists arent always ‘far right’
Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

While SF are a left wing party a significant minority of their support most certainly is not, there are more than a few far right nationalist types in that support, usually thick as **** too.

BobbyMalone · 10-01-2021 1:52pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

'solid left wing conspiracy'? Fairly common in fascist arguments from the 30s, and is seen in many of the Qanon and alt-right conspiracy theories today.

Eric Cartman · 10-01-2021 2:04pm

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

While SF are a left wing party a significant minority of their support most certainly is not, there are more than a few far right nationalist types in that support, usually thick as **** too.

Their ‘lefty’ position is just to get the young onboard , the diehard voters are the opposite of this and im sure the ‘woke’ position has been explained to the core. Its done so a lager swilling perpetually unemployed ‘up de ra’ type can tell his single mother daughter ‘shure mary lou will get you a free gaf’

TaurenDruid · 10-01-2021 2:37pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Their ‘lefty’ position is just to get the young onboard , the diehard voters are the opposite of this and im sure the ‘woke’ position has been explained to the core. Its done so a lager swilling perpetually unemployed ‘up de ra’ type can tell his single mother daughter ‘shure mary lou will get you a free gaf’

What's it actually like - having to generate so much energy to reserve for bile and hatred of huge swathes of society? Is it not exhausting?!

Eric Cartman · 10-01-2021 2:49pm

TaurenDruid wrote: »

What's it actually like - having to generate so much energy to reserve for bile and hatred of huge swathes of society? Is it not exhausting?!

When we discuss welfare leeching - ‘sure its a tiny minority of people’

Other discussions - ‘huge swathes of society’

TaurenDruid · 10-01-2021 2:58pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

When we discuss welfare leeching - ‘sure its a tiny minority of people’

Other discussions - ‘huge swathes of society’

But it's not just "welfare leeches" you hate, though, is it.

Eric Cartman · 10-01-2021 3:02pm

TaurenDruid wrote: »

But it's not just "welfare leeches" you hate, though, is it.

Realistically its most of it, anyone who is not a net benefit to the economy I have issue with. And ofcourse anyone who supports politics that increase tax or decrease freedoms for me.

namloc1980 · 10-01-2021 3:08pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Realistically its most of it, anyone who is not a net benefit to the economy I have issue with. And ofcourse anyone who supports politics that increase tax or decrease freedoms for me.

People on long term sick and disability - what would you like done with them?

I'm guessing you're the kind who wants loads of services but don't want to pay for any of it.

tdf7187 · 10-01-2021 3:14pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Blaming the bankers/globalists (jews) for your ills is a solid ‘left wing’ conspiracy theory thats been up there for years

Er, no, it's a right wing conspiracy theory that a tiny tiny minority who claim to be on the left have been sucked into.

tdf7187 · 10-01-2021 3:15pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Yellow vests most heavily associate with SF voters

Have you any evidence for this assertion?

tdf7187 · 10-01-2021 3:17pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

When we discuss welfare leeching - ‘sure its a tiny minority of people’

Are you referring to tax evasion and avoidance by MNC's and the super-rich? Probably not. Your type always pick on the weakest targets.

AndrewJRenko · 10-01-2021 3:56pm

The oul grifting seems to be working out pretty well for Dee, judging by the jammer she's driving;

https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496

Acosta · 10-01-2021 4:02pm

tdf7187 wrote: »

Er, no, it's a right wing conspiracy theory that a tiny tiny minority who claim to be on the left have been sucked into.

The only antisemitism I've come across on social media is from members of the national party and their supporters. I remember one who I think attended the noose rally, or another one of theirs around that time, getting kicked off twitter for it because the antisemitism was so bad.

francois · 10-01-2021 4:05pm

https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496?s=19

Acosta · 10-01-2021 4:11pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The oul grifting seems to be working out pretty well for Dee, judging by the jammer she's driving;

https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496

It's tough on the Guards having to deal with this lot but there's not much they can do. Despite a lot of talk from the government at various stages since last March, there is no legislation as far as I know that means they can do anything other than advise people.

gmisk · 10-01-2021 4:20pm

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The oul grifting seems to be working out pretty well for Dee, judging by the jammer she's driving;

https://twitter.com/TheBeaconIrl/status/1348274959358058496

Blaring and screeching about the constitution....to a PSNI office....thick scumbag.

Her favourite fashion accessory the crutch is back...lol

gmisk · 10-01-2021 4:22pm

Acosta wrote: »

It's tough on the Guards having to deal with this lot but there's not much they can do. Despite a lot of talk from the government at various stages since last March, there is no legislation as far as I know that means they can do anything other than advise people.

Huh?
That is simply not true.
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/coronavirus-ireland-fines-levelfive-rules-19593366

Very few have been it doesn't mean they can't.

France have been handing out a tonne of fines etc.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-france-fines-update-christophe-castaner-a9440146.html
As have Spain.

Gemma O'Doherty - Part 2 - Read OP for mod warning (06/01)

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