Gemma O'Doherty - Part 2 - Read OP for mod warning (06/01)

Annasopra

Donald Trump wrote: »

Others will understand my previous post. I came to this thread for a different reason when I saw a story in the news. I didn't know about this fella spitting on the woman.

It was in the post that I put up

Annasopra

NovemberWren wrote: »

ok. he was off-side there. but the "don't want to look like a fool" ..... this is exactly the hold that all a.i. has on the masses of the general public now.

People are not machines, they err; and maybe sometimes dopily snubbing all of those smartphones and spyware security cameras, [and the covert spineless gets behind them] is not so bad.

Off side?

He assaulted a woman and spat on her. You really do support some people who do horrendous things. Is your hero Dee still being questioned for the death threats?

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Off side?

He assaulted a woman and spat on her. You really do support some people who do horrendous things. Is your hero Dee still being questioned for the death threats?

Aw come on now he pulled a flag off an ould one certainly didn't assualt/ or spit on her you calling him bending over to grab the flag a assualt????
Also wasn't that angry Antifa granny? The ould one who goes around strung out on heroin all the time in Dublin goofed up the eyeballs on dole payment crappy smack?


Alan Sweeney lad is harmless. You lot are gas making him out to be Adolf Hitler.To ye if he looks at a woman he's 'abusing' or 'assualting' her.


Strikes me as a gentle soul he has a very nervous disposition and stutter. You lot are as making him out to be some Neo Nazi Monster. Do yiz ever do context or reality at all?

ohnonotgmail

NovemberWren wrote: »

nah. not embarrassing. he just seems a soul that is kind.
And the lovely Garda! even tempered, but very well trained.

The man should have said "I am on a lawful journey". Some persons say to say that, and that the Gardai cannot then stop you?

Howard Beale wrote: »

Aw come on now he pulled a flag off an ould one certainly didn't assualt/ or spit on her you calling him bending over to grab the flag a assualt????
Also wasn't that angry Antifa granny? The ould one who goes around strung out on heroin all the time in Dublin goofed up the eyeballs on dole payment crappy smack?


Alan Sweeney lad is harmless. You lot are gas making him out to be Adolf Hitler.To ye if he looks at a woman he's 'abusing' or 'assualting' her.


Strikes me as a gentle soul he has a very nervous disposition and stutter. You lot are as making him out to be some Neo Nazi Monster. Do yiz ever do context or reality at all?

a soul that is kind. a gentle soul. you guys must be reading from the same playbook.

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

Aw come on now he pulled a flag off an ould one certainly didn't assualt/ or spit on her you calling him bending over to grab the flag a assualt????
Also wasn't that angry Antifa granny? The ould one who goes around strung out on heroin all the time in Dublin goofed up the eyeballs on dole payment crappy smack?


Alan Sweeney lad is harmless. You lot are gas making him out to be Adolf Hitler.To ye if he looks at a woman he's 'abusing' or 'assualting' her.


Strikes me as a gentle soul he has a very nervous disposition and stutter. You lot are as making him out to be some Neo Nazi Monster. Do yiz ever do context or reality at all?

The video shows him spitting. Apparently its ok by you that she was assaulted.

Donald Trump

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

It was in the post that I put up

I think my post that you are replying to was unclear. I was saying that I came to this thread because of another story which I read about in the news. I did not come to talk about the spitter. When I came here I saw your post and the responses. That was what I meant.

To be clear, I cannot fathom any mitigating circumstances for that video. If you showed me a video that immediately started with a fella just punching a girl then maybe you could say there might be a 1-in-100 chance that he was defending himself or retaliating to something and the video was edited. In this case of the spitter, there cannot be any defence because she was on the ground and well away from him and not interacting with him, or a threat to him, in any way.

This is what I think:
1) Posting the video/photo - fine.
2) Passing on his details to the Guards - fine
3) Doxxing him online - not fine
4) Publishing his name after he charged - fine
5) Publishing the court details/findings after he is convicted - fine

(3) is the one that is not fine. This is a thread about a person who apparently/allegedly has their own little "mob" of followers online. Those followers appear to me - and I am sure to most reasonable people - have deluded but apparently strong views about who is assaulting their rights and what is a crime that deserves someone's name to be published online so that they can be targeted. Those "beliefs" and standards are presumably a lot different to most peoples'.

What I am saying is, that if you reduce to (3) when you feel it is justified, then it weakens the strength of your position if you then object to it when "they" do it.
(3) achieves nothing in this case. Do (2) and then (4) and (5) when he is processed. Don't create a precedent that it is ok to just jump in and do (3)

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

The video shows him spitting. Apparently its ok by you that she was assaulted.

The video of him grabbing the flag off strung out Antifa granny ould one? She was on her arse already like an upended turtle. What assault? What video you looking at? He was surrounded by like 10 gardai assualt eh? Done under their nose so clearly even several Gardai didn't see it as a 'assault'

We may agree to disagree.


If him grabbing the flag is assualt to you; you have lived a VERY VERY sheltered life. Just as well lockdown is on you would die going into the outside World.

Donald Trump

Howard Beale wrote: »

The video of him grabbing the flag off strung out Antifa granny ould one? She was on her arse already like an upended turtle. What assault? What video you looking at? He was surrounded by like 10 gardai assualt eh? Done under their nose so clearly even several Gardai didn't see it as a 'assault'

We may agree to disagree.


If him grabbing the flag is assualt to you; you have lived a VERY VERY sheltered life. Just as well lockdown is on you would die going into the outside World.

FYI, "assault" and "battery" are two legal terms that are often misunderstood/mixed up.


Some people wrongly assume that it's not, legally speaking, "assault" if the person did not receive physical injuries. They are wrong. Possibly yourself included

Howard Beale

Donald Trump wrote: »

FYI, "assault" and "battery" are two legal terms that are often misunderstood/mixed up.


Some people wrongly assume that it's not, legally speaking, "assault" if the person did not receive physical injuries. They are wrong. Possibly yourself included

Did I say anything about physical injuries?

If anyone is wrong perhaps it's yourself? Physical injuries??
I didn't say that YOU DID.

Donald Trump

Howard Beale wrote: »

Did I say anything about physical injuries?

If anyone is wrong perhaps it's yourself? Physical injuries??
I didn't say that YOU DID.

You appear to think that grabbing a flag off someone could not come under the legal definition of "assualt" (sic). I am merely telling you that it most definitely could.



http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/section/2/enacted/en/html




Now, you can try to shift the goalposts. But it is quite clear that such an action would come under the legal definition of "assault". Arguing whether or not it harmed the person, or whether a penalty should be applied for that action, is a separate point.

cravings

i was curious so had a quick look (very quick) into this guy.. he has his youtube and twitter and probably facebook all in his own name, he does multiple streams and videos and stuff as himself, he has said he has aspirations on going into politics, his education and background are easily publicly visible on his linkdin... it's not much of a "dox" when he's pretty much given all the info away himself.

fantaiscool

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Kind? Nah.


https://twitter.com/AedDubh/status/1292555179523551236?s=19

https://twitter.com/gemmentedod1/status/1292947424911204361?s=19

That is disgusting conduct. He should be ashamed of himself.

Necro

Mod:

Howard Beale, unless you have proof of these allegations I suggest you drop it please.

Everyone else, get back on topic. Thanks

Howard Beale

Necro wrote: »

Mod:

Howard Beale, unless you have proof of these allegations I suggest you drop it please.

Everyone else, get back on topic. Thanks

Well several have spoke of their stints in rehab but I am not going to go trawling through old twitter posts from 2 year ago I'm at work can't be arsed but their is 2 lads who has exposed the Antifa druggie dreg lot for what they are but I am not posting their stuff as they are Nationalists and immediately be far far right this and that as peoples confirmation bias on the left won't allow them to look at anything that's not from a full on Marxist. For some reason people here are very sympathetic to the unemployable Antifa lot. Anyone wants the links DM me fair enough?

Like in Galway profit before people expelled a party member for smashing a phone, beating the crap out of his missus and drug dealing to other party members. These folk are cretins and the worst lowlifes.

While the video of Alan does make him look bad I can gurantee people that was very likely after months of abuse and doxxing online context is important. He was had personal and very abusive doxxing videos and the people making them are very obviously not working. How could they be spending hours a day editing and splicing together abusive dox videos of people all the time? Don't any of these people have lifes at all??

Despite Gemma and her goons being accused of things they never ever spend their days making abusive personal dox videos of people they don't know from Adam. This is the most extreme form of bullying and abuse online and the hard left (antifa) lot get away with the most vile abuse as it's cloaked in a wafer thin uniform of being virtuous despite it being the most extreme form of what they preach against fascism. However people will support the most extreme bullying and dox videos if it goes against someone they disagree with. Amazing echo chamber bias and hypocrisy.

Whilst I see the Antifa dregs for what they are unemployed reprobates what never ceases to amaze me is the mindless support for them and their embellished abuse and bullying videos online further illustrating the divide and conquer going on in Ireland right now and showing violence and abuse from the left always goes unnoticed and ignored. Shame as these lot contribute absolutely nothing to society these unemployable 'activists' who spend 24/7 online making abuse videos.

Penfailed

Howard Beale wrote: »

Shame as these lot contribute absolutely nothing to society these unemployable 'activists' who spend 24/7 online making abuse videos.

You're talking about Gemma and Dee and the rest here...yeah?

The Nal

Shes running out of money. No Youtube, no Twitter, no Parler

https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1348917444107186177

For Forks Sake

The Nal wrote: »

Shes running out of money. No Youtube, no Twitter, no Parler

https://twitter.com/aciquestion/status/1348917444107186177

"Tess the Truth Trailer" What the f*ck?

Howard Beale

For Forks Sake wrote: »

"Tess the Truth Trailer" What the f*ck?

Looks like a crashed horsebox to me.

You hardly think that is the real thing????????

ACIQuestion is a satirical Twitter account for forks sake :rolleyes:

By the way Gems doesn't need the money shes minted at the back of it. How many can afford houses in Shankill and not work??

TaurenDruid

Howard Beale wrote: »

While the video of Alan does make him look bad I can gurantee people that was very likely after months of abuse...

You can guarantee that something is likely... ok, then...

Despite Gemma and her goons being accused of things they never ever spend their days making abusive personal dox videos of people they don't know from Adam.

No? They just confine themselves to being directly abusive, and directing abuse towards, people they don't know from Adam.

Howard Beale

TaurenDruid wrote: »

You can guarantee that something is likely... ok, then...



No? They just confine themselves to being directly abusive, and directing abuse towards, people they don't know from Adam.

I remember he said it online somewhere so yes he's got mountains of crap off the the crusty Antifa types.

Well I don't condone eithers abuse but my point was Gems goons don't spend their lifes making disgusting doxxing videos as you well know. That is the remit of the permanently unemployed Antifa loola's who seem to spend their life's making embellished videos of people they don't know. Extreme harassment and bullying online is all it is.

If Gems was making these awful doxxing videos boards.ie be up in arms because it's the unemployable Antifa lot making them not only is it supported but shared around!

Incredible double standards and hypocrisy.

ohnonotgmail

Howard Beale wrote: »

I remember he said it online somewhere so yes he's got mountains of crap off the the crusty Antifa types.

Well I don't condone eithers abuse but my point was Gems goons don't spend their lifes making disgusting doxxing videos as you well know. That is the remit of the permanently unemployed Antifa loola's who seem to spend their life's making embellished videos of people they don't know. Extreme harassment and bullying online is all it is.

If Gems was making these awful doxxing videos boards.ie be up in arms because it's the unemployable Antifa lot making them not only is it supported but shared around!

Incredible double standards and hypocrisy.

you need a new record, yours seems to be broken.

The Nal

Howard Beale wrote: »

You hardly think that is the real thing????????

ACIQuestion is a satirical Twitter account for forks sake :rolleyes:

Is she not asking for money?

Howard Beale

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you need a new record, yours seems to be broken.

Any requests for a new record? Maybe bit of Zeppelin?

Ha, despite it can't get these folk to see the insane hypcrisy of whinging about Gems and co yet support incredibly vicious doxx videos put up slander and potentially get people sacked and or attacked.

People who are whinging about bullying support the most extreme bullying online yet most can't see further than their nose to cop this. Gas :rolleyes:

ancapailldorcha

Howard Beale wrote: »

You hardly think that is the real thing????????

ACIQuestion is a satirical Twitter account for forks sake :rolleyes:

By the way Gems doesn't need the money shes minted at the back of it. How many can afford houses in Shankill and not work??

It's fake? Please substantiate this claim.

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

Well several have spoke of their stints in rehab but I am not going to go trawling through old twitter posts from 2 year ago I'm at work can't be arsed but their is 2 lads who has exposed the Antifa druggie dreg lot for what they are but I am not posting their stuff as they are Nationalists and immediately be far far right this and that as peoples confirmation bias on the left won't allow them to look at anything that's not from a full on Marxist. For some reason people here are very sympathetic to the unemployable Antifa lot. Anyone wants the links DM me fair enough?

Like in Galway profit before people expelled a party member for smashing a phone, beating the crap out of his missus and drug dealing to other party members. These folk are cretins and the worst lowlifes.

While the video of Alan does make him look bad I can gurantee people that was very likely after months of abuse and doxxing online context is important. He was had personal and very abusive doxxing videos and the people making them are very obviously not working. How could they be spending hours a day editing and splicing together abusive dox videos of people all the time? Don't any of these people have lifes at all??

Despite Gemma and her goons being accused of things they never ever spend their days making abusive personal dox videos of people they don't know from Adam. This is the most extreme form of bullying and abuse online and the hard left (antifa) lot get away with the most vile abuse as it's cloaked in a wafer thin uniform of being virtuous despite it being the most extreme form of what they preach against fascism. However people will support the most extreme bullying and dox videos if it goes against someone they disagree with. Amazing echo chamber bias and hypocrisy.

Whilst I see the Antifa dregs for what they are unemployed reprobates what never ceases to amaze me is the mindless support for them and their embellished abuse and bullying videos online further illustrating the divide and conquer going on in Ireland right now and showing violence and abuse from the left always goes unnoticed and ignored. Shame as these lot contribute absolutely nothing to society these unemployable 'activists' who spend 24/7 online making abuse videos.

Ah right ok - never any abuse or bullying from Saint Gemma or her followers, none whatsoever

This is just more of the same; excuses about scumbag behaviour, pretense that both sides are as bad as each other and whataboutery.

LollipopJimmy

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

It's fake? Please substantiate this claim.

He seems to be taking about the picture on the tweet being fake, or at least not an puc of the actual trailer. Which he is correct in saying

Penfailed

Howard Beale wrote: »

Any requests for a new record? Maybe bit of Zeppelin?

Ha, despite it can't get these folk to see the insane hypcrisy of whinging about Gems and co yet support incredibly vicious doxx videos put up slander and potentially get people sacked and or attacked.

People who are whinging about bullying support the most extreme bullying online yet most can't see further than their nose to cop this. Gas :rolleyes:

I don't support either. Is that good enough for you?

ohnonotgmail

Penfailed wrote: »

I don't support either. Is that good enough for you?

Thats the thing isn't it. People like howard cannot see that as an option. You HAVE to support one or the other. Everything is divided into sides.

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

Any requests for a new record? Maybe bit of Zeppelin?

Ha, despite it can't get these folk to see the insane hypcrisy of whinging about Gems and co yet support incredibly vicious doxx videos put up slander and potentially get people sacked and or attacked.

People who are whinging about bullying support the most extreme bullying online yet most can't see further than their nose to cop this. Gas :rolleyes:

Hmmmm. Yet you are happy enough for your "nationalist" friends to be doing all this yourself as you just pointed out above.

You are whinging about so called whinging but its fine by you when "antifa" people get exposed as drug addicts and the harassment of Joe Loughnane was ok too. Hmmmmm

Nope. You cannot be taken seriously.

cravings

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

He seems to be taking about the picture on the tweet being fake, or at least not an puc of the actual trailer. Which he is correct in saying

yes. i think this is the actual trailer

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Hmmmm. Yet you are happy enough for your "nationalist" friends to be doing all this yourself as you just pointed out above.

You are whinging about so called whinging but its fine by you when "antifa" people get exposed as drug addicts and the harassment of Joe Loughnane was ok too. Hmmmmm

Nope. You cannot be taken seriously.

I have been VERY clear I do not support Gemma as said she is very damaging to Nationalist movements. Vast majority of conservative or right leaning people don't support her. She has a tiny handful of ardent supporters.

It was YOU who mentioned Joe Loughnane not me (again YOU bringing up names not me).

Yes you are right I have limited sympathy for drug dealers who beat the living **** out of women. Are these people you support??? :(

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

I have been VERY clear I do not support Gemma as said she is very damaging to Nationalist movements. Vast majority of conservative or right leaning people don't support her. She has a tiny handful of ardent supporters.

It was YOU who mentioned Joe Loughnane not me (again YOU bringing up names not me).

Yes you are right I have limited sympathy for drug dealers who beat the living **** out of women. Are these people you support??? :(

This is just lots more whataboutery ignoring the points I made. You have complained about the left/ so called "antifa" bullying and harassing and doxxing people but you seem perfectly ok with it when your "nationalist" friends do it.

Zookey123

Howard Beale wrote: »

I have been VERY clear I do not support Gemma as said she is very damaging to Nationalist movements. Vast majority of conservative or right leaning people don't support her. She has a tiny handful of ardent supporters.

It was YOU who mentioned Joe Loughnane not me (again YOU bringing up names not me).

Yes you are right I have limited sympathy for drug dealers who beat the living **** out of women. Are these people you support??? :(

I thought it was your boyfriend alan sweeney that was caught assaulting the woman? Now I'm confused.

ancapailldorcha

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

He seems to be taking about the picture on the tweet being fake, or at least not an puc of the actual trailer. Which he is correct in saying

That's be just some random image I would have thought.

francois

Howard Beale wrote: »

Are these people you support??? :(

Textbook loaded question fallacy

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

This is just lots more whataboutery ignoring the points I made. You have complained about the left/ so called "antifa" bullying and harassing and doxxing people but you seem perfectly ok with it when your "nationalist" friends do it.

Bit rich coming from someone who on here defends a drug dealing woman beater no?

In fact sees nothings wrong with said vicious women beatings or drug dealings as that person is 'left'. Gas man.

I never said anyone Nationalist doing it was OK I was making the point no one Nationalist is pathetic and evil enough to make the doxxing videos Antfia do all the time.

Proof me wrong. Show me Nationalist movement videos doxxing antifa? Anything?

Riesen_Meal

cravings wrote: »

yes. i think this is the actual trailer

This goon passed my job on Friday, I did make sure to give him a close to waving hand signal, he could be local to me as I've seen it a few times now....

Hope the cop's at the checkpoint beside give him a bit of jip....

Annasopra

You just told us about it yourself

Howard Beale wrote: »

their is 2 lads who has exposed the Antifa druggie dreg lot for what they are but I am not posting their stuff as they are Nationalists

ohnonotgmail

Fieldog wrote: »

This goon passed my job on Friday, I did make sure to give him a close to waving hand signal, he could be local to me as I've seen it a few times now....

Hope the cop's at the checkpoint beside give him a bit of jip....

I wonder if he has a proper trailer licence for it.

LollipopJimmy

cravings wrote: »

yes. i think this is the actual trailer

Hahaha!

He was parked on Merchants Quay last week, seems to be getting around

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

You just told us about it yourself

No I said lads do know of the Antifas lots drug dealing and drug abuse but they do not make doxxing videos of them despite them being drug dealing and in some cases woman beating scum.

So again where is the Nationalist side making these awful videos on these unemployable Antifa lot?

Zookey123

Howard Beale wrote: »

No I said lads do know of the Antifas lots drug dealing and drug abuse but they do not make doxxing videos of them despite them being drug dealing and in some cases woman beating scum.

So again where is the Nationalist side making these awful videos on these unemployable Antifa lot?

Are you going to include citations or just spout rubbish with no evidence?

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

No I said lads do know of the Antifas lots drug dealing and drug abuse but they do not make doxxing videos of them despite them being drug dealing and in some cases woman beating scum.

So again where is the Nationalist side making these awful videos on these unemployable Antifa lot?

You said its there - you said your "nationalist" friends have this so you provide the evidence.

Howard Beale

Zookey123 wrote: »

Are you going to include citations or just spout rubbish with no evidence?

Joe Loughnane who JoeytheParrott brings up. The Antifa 'anti racist' (also anti woman too) female abusing drug dealer suspended from profit before people.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/people-before-profit-suspension-964097

https://www.pbp.ie/statement-on-joe-loughnane/


Also is it really that hard to google a name? Seesh talk about being bone idle lazy.

wiggle16

Howard Beale wrote: »

I never said anyone Nationalist doing it was OK I was making the point no one Nationalist is pathetic and evil enough to make the doxxing videos Antfia do all the time.

Proof me wrong. Show me Nationalist movement videos doxxing antifa? Anything?

Yet another logical fallacy: No True Scotsman.

Annasopra

Howard Beale wrote: »

Joe Loughnane who JoeytheParrott brings up. The Antifa 'anti racist' (also anti woman too) female abusing drug dealer suspended from profit before people.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/people-before-profit-suspension-964097

https://www.pbp.ie/statement-on-joe-loughnane/


Also is it really that hard to google a name? Seesh talk about being bone idle lazy.

Sure yeah. You were happy enough for your "nationalist" friends to harass and doxx him.

Howard Beale

Howard Beale wrote: »

I remember he said it online somewhere so yes he's got mountains of crap off the the crusty Antifa types.

Well I don't condone eithers abuse but my point was Gems goons don't spend their lifes making disgusting doxxing videos as you well know. That is the remit of the permanently unemployed Antifa loola's who seem to spend their life's making embellished videos of people they don't know. Extreme harassment and bullying online is all it is.

If Gems was making these awful doxxing videos boards.ie be up in arms because it's the unemployable Antifa lot making them not only is it supported but shared around!

Incredible double standards and hypocrisy.

Is there antifa in Ireland? I thought it was an american thing.

Caegan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is there antifa in Ireland? I thought it was an american thing.

Of course they are, just like in an episode of Scooby Doo, once you pull the mask off its all Antifa.

It really must be exhausting tying yourself into knits to defend GOD and her ilk.

Howard Beale

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Sure yeah. You were happy enough for your "nationalist" friends to harass and doxx him.

Are you mad or something?

I have made it abundantly clear there is no doxxing videos from Nationalists to these cretins if there are show them to me!

Also I wouldn't mind him getting them if he did. Like I said previously woman abusing drug dealers get little to no sympathy from me but why are you treating these scum with such kid gloves? Why such a soft spot for men who put their violent hands on women?

So Alan Sweeney 'assualts' a antifa loola by leaning over her and words exchanged you go nuts over but Joe Loughnane beating the living crap out of his missus is defended to the hilt? Why? It was a good beating was it? Doesn't hurt apparently when a leftie loola does it? Maybe ask the victim eh!;)


It's very telling you are going out of your way to incessantly defend such a disgusting lowlife.

Penfailed

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is there antifa in Ireland? I thought it was an american thing.

I'm anti-fascist.