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JonathanAnon · 15-12-2012 3:24pm

Bit of a cringe moment there on Radio One.. Brian Mullins talking about Paidí began "If you measure the man by heart, and I dont mean physical heart"... Very unfortunate choice of words... Hard to believe that Paidí is gone, he's was a great character...

DEFTLEFTHAND · 16-12-2012 4:26am

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Bit of a cringe moment there on Radio One.. Brian Mullins talking about Paidí began "If you measure the man by heart, and I dont mean physical heart"... Very unfortunate choice of words... Hard to believe that Paidí is gone, he's was a great character...

I wouldn't be too harsh it was an unintentional faux pas. I echo your words on Paidi, it was shocking to hear of his sudden passing.

kumate_champ07 · 17-12-2012 8:40pm

'ya know'

Ciaran_B · 17-12-2012 10:37pm

Great interview with the 3 Kerry lads talking about Paidi tonight and excerpts from the Paidi interview.

yohan the great · 21-12-2012 5:01pm

Does anybody know what the real story with ken and his supposed trial at marseille. Was it just made up or what

DEFTLEFTHAND · 21-12-2012 5:09pm

yohan the great wrote: »

Does anybody know what the real story with ken and his supposed trial at marseille. Was it just made up or what

I always wondered that too, I think it's just a spoof though.

sleepyman · 07-01-2013 10:27pm

Mark Horgan interviewing his brother on the rugby.I wonder where Eoin Is?

Skid · 07-01-2013 10:31pm

sleepyman wrote: »

Mark Horgan interviewing his brother on the rugby.I wonder where Eoin Is?

On a day off, presumably.

Shane sounded genuinely pissed off at whatever Jerry Flannery said about him. I hope they come on air to sort out their grievances.

sleepyman · 07-01-2013 10:34pm

Skid wrote: »

On a day off, presumably.

Shane sounded genuinely pissed off at whatever Jerry Flannery said about him. I hope they come on air to sort out their grievances.

I missed that Skid.What did he say?I think Shane is being honest in his criticism of Munster at the moment

Skid · 07-01-2013 11:49pm

sleepyman wrote: »

I missed that Skid.What did he say?I think Shane is being honest in his criticism of Munster at the moment

To be honest, I was only half listening, but It was something to do with Jerry Flannery criticising Shane Horgan's choice of Man of The Match recently (possibly Saturday's Munster game which was on RTÉ). It was brought up in a light hearted manner, but Shaggy sounded genuinely annoyed and said he would expect better from a former team-mate and it should have been said to his face. Mark Horgan then said they would clear the schedules if the two of them wanted to come on air to sort it out (half jokingly).

I will try to catch it again on playback when I get a chance to check the details.

armchair fusilier · 08-01-2013 4:32am

sleepyman wrote: »

I wonder where Eoin Is?

I vaguely remember him saying that he was going on holidays to Argentina. I think Horgan is standing in for the rest of the week.

popebenny16 · 10-01-2013 3:11pm

JM Skipton wrote: »

Apologies but I have completely missed the point you are trying to make,you have quoted my post so I presume there is something in it that you agree/disagree with??

late apologies to your apologies, due to formatting error i was replying to the person you were replying to.

popebenny16 · 10-01-2013 3:13pm

odd stuff on the football show last night. a sepp blatter apologist getting full reign and ken declaring that addiction is not an illness.

despite tony adams and george best, for example, saying it is.

we need eoin back and pronto.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-01-2013 5:14pm

popebenny16 wrote: »

odd stuff on the football show last night. a sepp blatter apologist getting full reign and ken declaring that addiction is not an illness.

despite tony adams and george best, for example, saying it is.

we need eoin back and pronto.

Ken obviously has no experience with addiction problems. Tbh he came across as ignorant and narrow minded last night.

spank_inferno · 10-01-2013 5:29pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ken obviously has no experience with addiction problems. Tbh he came across as ignorant and narrow minded last night.

It was poor alright, and then Mark sort of agreed with him.

armchair fusilier · 10-01-2013 6:51pm

I would have though that a gambling addiction could be classed as a mental illness. Ken got this one wrong I think.

ballsymchugh · 10-01-2013 7:05pm

addictions and illnesses is a grey area. they only became classified as illnesses when medical insurance companies in the US pressurised to get that so they could offer cover for it. up until that, the medical profession didn't regard them as illnesses.
that was in the 60s afaik so times have changed!

just sayin!

armchair fusilier · 10-01-2013 7:48pm

ballsymchugh wrote: »

addictions and illnesses is a grey area. they only became classified as illnesses when medical insurance companies in the US pressurised to get that so they could offer cover for it. up until that, the medical profession didn't regard them as illnesses.
that was in the 60s afaik so times have changed!

just sayin!

A chemical reaction occurs in the brain of a gambling addict when they gamble. Dopamine floods part of the brain, this can be seen using MRI scans. The same reaction doesn't occur for non-addicts, so it's a brain disorder.

ballsymchugh · 10-01-2013 8:04pm

armchair fusilier wrote: »

A chemical reaction occurs in the brain of a gambling addict when they gamble. Dopamine floods part of the brain, this can be seen using MRI scans. The same reaction doesn't occur for non-addicts, so it's a brain disorder.

i know there's a physiological change going on, which is why i poorly qualified what i said by saying that it was in the 60s and times have changed along with research etc.
i was just giving the point of view that still exists in some places.

armchair fusilier · 10-01-2013 8:26pm

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i was just giving the point of view that still exists in some places.

Yeah, it's a view shared by the current tory Minister for Work and Pensions, Ian Duncan-Smith. Apparently addiction is a moral defect.

starviewadams · 11-01-2013 12:50am

Mark Horgan's not a bad replacement for Eoin at all,they should get him in whenever Ken's away.Eoin and Murph are a bit dull when it's just them two on their own,no harm in having Horgan there as a third voice.

popebenny16 · 14-01-2013 1:07pm

starviewadams wrote: »

Mark Horgan's not a bad replacement for Eoin at all,they should get him in whenever Ken's away.Eoin and Murph are a bit dull when it's just them two on their own,no harm in having Horgan there as a third voice.

this is true, but he needs to impose himself a bit more. without eoin in there the show tends to become very student radio and self indulgent.

Harry Angstrom · 16-01-2013 10:46pm

Good to hear McDevitt back tonight. The show is never the same when either he or Ken Early is missing.

Bloody*Mary · 17-01-2013 8:12pm

Can't stand the show, stacactic delivery, total rubbish in my opinion.

Currently parsing the Brian O'Driscoll demotion.

My take, dead right ,move on , O'Driscoll despite being a great player and leader

is gone over the top.

Early is off the wall, athletic sports needs young blood , harsh but true.

Kidney is making the right decision.

armchair fusilier · 17-01-2013 11:09pm

How annoying does Graham Hunter have to get for them to dump him?

Cienciano · 18-01-2013 11:11pm

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Good to hear McDevitt back tonight. The show is never the same when either he or Ken Early is missing.

I like it when Ger Gilroy does the show, he's really good. When Ken is gone the show misses something.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 20-01-2013 6:13am

Cienciano wrote: »

I like it when Ger Gilroy does the show, he's really good. When Ken is gone the show misses something.

There's something nice about Eoin, he's excellent at what he does. To me Gilroy comes across as a smug arsehole.

Cienciano · 20-01-2013 11:03pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There's something nice about Eoin, he's excellent at what he does. To me Gilroy comes across as a smug arsehole.

Smug doesn't mean bad. Ken is one of the smuggest people in the world, but I still think he's quality!

popebenny16 · 21-01-2013 1:50pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There's something nice about Eoin, he's excellent at what he does. To me Gilroy comes across as a smug arsehole.

cannot stand gilroy. the only time i enjoyed listening to him was when kildare crashed out of the championship last year. apart form that he is so smug he actually makes michael mcmullen on live after five seem like a nice guy.

Temaz · 21-01-2013 4:15pm

Cienciano wrote: »

Smug doesn't mean bad. Ken is one of the smuggest people in the world, but I still think he's quality!

I had to tune out due to know it all Ken.

starviewadams · 21-01-2013 5:55pm

Yeah,Hunter does sound a bit pathetic when he's going on about various Barca/Madrid players like he's actually mates with them.You can tell Ken loves winding him up though.

Cienciano · 21-01-2013 6:33pm

Temaz wrote: »

I had to tune out due to know it all Ken.

Ken is a legend. How dare you. HOW DARE YOU!!

tommyboy2222 · 21-01-2013 9:03pm

Betsy Andreu on at the mo.

Very impressive lady.

popebenny16 · 22-01-2013 5:58pm

tommyboy2222 wrote: »

Betsy Andreu on at the mo.

Very impressive lady.

that was a quality interview by mcdevitt all right, they delayed the news and all to allow her finish. when they are on song its a great show.

Diabhal Beag · 22-01-2013 7:00pm

I echo the Gilroy sentiments. Can't really listen to his Saturday stuff. Prefer Shaggy's bro to Ger. Eoin is superb at what he does.

padd b1975 · 22-01-2013 11:22pm

When did they bring back 'Good Clean Fun With Pat Kenny'?

armchair fusilier · 22-01-2013 11:42pm

I can't say that I would ever describe Gilroy as smug, or a prick. It is description, however, that I think more aptly could be given to OTB's self-appointed "Chief Sports Anchor". The presenter always has the advantage in any exchange because he can always have the last word, Mcdevitt does have a tendency to abuse this bit of power i.e. cutting remark to Murph or Ken...immediately cuts to ads. Mostly it's harmless, sometimes it can be funny but quite often he does come across as a bit of a prick.

splendid101 · 23-01-2013 12:35am

I don't think any of them are pricks. I think they're all very likeable and good at their jobs.

armchair fusilier · 23-01-2013 2:02am

I'd agree that they are both good at their jobs, there's just a side to McDevitt that I don't particularly like. Whereas, to me, Gilroy is a fairly affable kind of bloke who wouldn't cause offense to anybody.

Cienciano · 24-01-2013 5:56pm

armchair fusilier wrote: »

I'd agree that they are both good at their jobs, there's just a side to McDevitt that I don't particularly like. Whereas, to me, Gilroy is a fairly affable kind of bloke who wouldn't cause offense to anybody.

I like Eoin, but I think Gilroy is a much better interviewer. More professional, and askes better questions. He does seem to be good crack on OTB, more highbrow than Eoin.
Gilroy is Frazier and Eoin is Benny Hill.

JoeA3 · 24-01-2013 10:05pm

Myself and my mates met Gilroy a couple of times over in Poland for the euros. Seemed a very affable easy going fella. Even saw the funny side of people shouting "hey, there's Eoin mcDevitt!" at him!

omerin · 24-01-2013 10:20pm

Timmy Mac was on tonight. RTE should differt all available funds and get this man commentating on the NBA next season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qBsQ34jSc

djemba djemba · 24-01-2013 10:32pm

omerin wrote: »

Timmy Mac was on tonight. RTE should differt all available funds and get this man commentating on the NBA next season

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0qBsQ34jSc

Any idea what time he was on at so I can catch it on the listen back part of the newstalk website

JoeA3 · 25-01-2013 8:58am

djemba djemba wrote: »

Any idea what time he was on at so I can catch it on the listen back part of the newstalk website

He was on after 8, 8:30 ish.

JM Skipton · 25-01-2013 11:56am

armchair fusilier wrote: »

I'd agree that they are both good at their jobs, there's just a side to McDevitt that I don't particularly like. Whereas, to me, Gilroy is a fairly affable kind of bloke who wouldn't cause offense to anybody.

Biggest problem I have with Eoin is he is a kilmacud crokes man;)

Jayob10 · 25-01-2013 3:32pm

I think both McDevitt and Gilroy are very good, not a fan of Ken Early at all. Probably down to the fact that he holds a different opinion to me 99% of the time though

He constantly seeks to find an angle on things that hasn't been explored and it gets a bit tiresome, sometimes it just is what it is Ken :cool:

His exchanges with Graham Hunter are quite funny, Hunter polarizes opinion, I like him as a journalist when he doesn't go over the top trying to show how many players he personally knows.

Ken Early doesn't like him and its obvious. They had an argument the other night about Guardiola going to Bayern. Ken seemed to think Pep couldn't lose at Bayern and it was a case of him just showing up and using the resources at his disposal and Hunter took a completely opposite stance saying finances are not the be all and end all, citing Mancini's fortunes in Europe as an example.

Early then claimed the Bundesliga is easy to win compared to La Liga, which is a foolish statement to make and Hunter told him so. Was quite funny seeing Ken have his ass handed to him on air, by someone he doesn't like at all

Temaz · 25-01-2013 3:55pm

What I don't like about Ken is the way he has to disagree with every text sent into the show and on the rare occasion he does agree he feels the need to put the icing on the cake.

armchair fusilier · 25-01-2013 4:05pm

Jayob10 wrote: »

Early then claimed the Bundesliga is easy to win compared to La Liga, which is a foolish statement to make and Hunter told him so. Was quite funny seeing Ken have his ass handed to him on air, by someone he doesn't like at all

I didn't see it that way at all, I thought Hunter made a complete tit of himself last week. There was no sign of him in his usual slot last night, I'm kind of hoping that he has flounce of in a huff - for good. Sid Lowe was just infinitely better. No pretending to best mates with every member of the Spanish squad, no tortuous overly analytical answers that go on forever and no tantrums because someone dares to have a different opinion than him.

Jayob10 · 25-01-2013 4:05pm

Temaz wrote: »

What I don't like about Ken is the way he has to disagree with every text sent into the show and on the rare occasion he does agree he feels the need to put the icing on the cake.

thats true, he often looks for an angle thats not even there just for the sake of being different.

Wouldn't ever say he was a pr*ck or the likes ive seen on this thread, but I do think he is not all that hectic given the central role he has. I reckon there are many out there who could do his job, he is not a class apart.

Some of the interviews done by McDevitt/Gilroy are excellent though.

Its a really good show, the contributions with Hunter/Honingstein/Wilson et al is really good.

Tim Vickery is also excellent as always when he is on, he is very well informed without even a hint of smugness

Jayob10 · 25-01-2013 4:10pm

armchair fusilier wrote: »

I didn't see it that way at all, I thought Hunter made a complete tit of himself last week. There was no sign of him in his usual slot last night, I'm kind of hoping that he has flounce of in a huff - for good. Sid Lowe was just infinitely better. No pretending to best mates with every member of the Spanish squad, no tortuous overly analytical answers that go on forever and no tantrums because someone dares to have a different opinion than him.

Hunter is a bit over the top, his love for Real Madrid is nauseating. But definately think he got the better of Ken there, Ken inferred there was zero risk in Pep going to Bayern when in reality theres alot of risk to his rep.

He made it seem like Pep will stroll to a league title at a canter, when in reality Dortmund will provide a stern challenge, regardless of funds.

Hunter would also be the first one to put the boot into anyone Barca too when you scratch below the surface

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