New slurry tank with dribble bar prices

alps · 20-06-2020 8:29am

Reggie. wrote: »

Well I know I was spreading with another tanker. I was managing 3 loads an hour or 4 and the other tanker 2. So between us we moved 12,500 gallons and hour and over 3 12hr days we practically emptied a 500,000 gallon tower.

All sorts of ground from paddocks to silage ground to maize ground covered over them days.

Umbilical isn't the saviour either. I wager we were as value for money as the umbilical and more versatile

Reggie....dont want to know how much you guys charge, butvany way you could throw a figure on how much the 500,000 galls took to clear..

Only interested as we move the same amount and comparing..

Reggie. · 20-06-2020 9:00am

alps wrote: »

Reggie....dont want to know how much you guys charge, butvany way you could throw a figure on how much the 500,000 galls took to clear..

Only interested as we move the same amount and comparing..

PM sent

_Brian · 20-06-2020 9:18am

richie123 wrote: »

This is a massive problem with most dealerships.
How bloody hard is it to give out a price on a machine.
It always amazes me,there selling machines every week and don't seem to know the price when you ask for it.ill get back to ya is what you'll hear.absolute bull****.

It’s just the DoneDeal mentality

Put the god damn price on the website and it makes life easier for everyone.

Really irksome to see an add for something with no price.
Then “no time wasters” often with “ring for price”, really, who’s the ****in time waster now !

mahoney_j · 20-06-2020 9:28am

_Brian wrote: »

It’s just the DoneDeal mentality

Put the god damn price on the website and it makes life easier for everyone.

Really irksome to see an add for something with no price.
Then “no time wasters” often with “ring for price”, really, who’s the ****in time waster now !

Sorry for going off topic but that’s exactly how I’d place an add of a lad sees an add with something he’d like to buy he’ll ring no matter what on done deal you’ll have utter time wasters ringing you.ive just found you have less but putting no price etc .always put detailed description and pictures tho and if I think a lad is wasting my time or no interest it’s a short call

richie123 · 20-06-2020 9:40am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Major make a 3100 on single axle.
Know of 2 not far from me

Maddness.triaxle (steering)once over 3000 gallons.
You'd destroy soft going ground over 3000 gallons singleaxle.
3000 gallons is 13 tonne without weight of tanker itself.... maddness I say

hopeso · 20-06-2020 9:42am

Panch18 wrote: »

Does any manufacturer make a dribble bar that can be used on a tanker and then taken off and used independently as part of an umbilical system? Or is that a stupid question and they all do that?

Yes, a neighbor here got an Abbey like that this year. He got the pump on the tanker that’s capable of pumping a long distance, so on bad ground he puts the bar on the tractor and feeds it from the tanker (on a second tractor)

Reggie. · 20-06-2020 9:42am

richie123 wrote: »

Maddness.triaxle (steering)once over 3000 gallons.
You'd destroy soft going ground over 3000 gallons singleaxle.
3000 gallons is 13 tonne without weight of tanker itself.... maddness I say

I think 2500 is nearly 13 tonnes is it not

richie123 · 20-06-2020 9:44am

mahoney_j wrote: »

Sorry for going off topic but that’s exactly how I’d place an add of a lad sees an add with something he’d like to buy he’ll ring no matter what on done deal you’ll have utter time wasters ringing you.ive just found you have less but putting no price etc .always put detailed description and pictures tho and if I think a lad is wasting my time or no interest it’s a short call

Put up the price and save urself a heap of calls we all have budgets and if that price is nowhere near our budget we just won't ring full stop can never understand lads not putting up a price on there adds.

mahoney_j · 20-06-2020 9:46am

richie123 wrote: »

Put up the price and save urself a heap of calls we all have budgets and if that price is nowhere near our budget we just won't ring full stop can never understand lads not putting up a price on there adds.

U get them either way just found ive less with no price

20-06-2020 10:09am

Not putting up prices for machinery is one of the most annoying things going, it’s idiotic. If I’m looking at cars I immediately discount any car with no price and move on as it’s only an idiot selling that doesn’t put up a price.

But machinery and tractors it’s nearly the norm. It should be a rule in the journal and online etc that a price has to be up. In fairness some dealers do but most don’t. If I’m browsing I don’t want to have to be making a heap of calls to get a few prices and compare etc.

alps · 20-06-2020 10:27am

Reggie. wrote: »

PM sent

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jaymla627 · 20-06-2020 11:27am

Cedric Elegant Stereoscope wrote: »

Not putting up prices for machinery is one of the most annoying things going, it’s idiotic. If I’m looking at cars I immediately discount any car with no price and move on as it’s only an idiot selling that doesn’t put up a price.

But machinery and tractors it’s nearly the norm. It should be a rule in the journal and online etc that a price has to be up. In fairness some dealers do but most don’t. If I’m browsing I don’t want to have to be making a heap of calls to get a few prices and compare etc.

Issue with dealers is the straight sale price, versus a trade-in been taken would be a couple of grand either way but its very hard to explain this do some lads who reckon their trade-in is worth a fortune and if they see a straight sale price of 60k on a site when it would be 65k if taking their trade-in which they are over-valuing the rows start then

richie123 · 20-06-2020 11:54am

Reggie. wrote: »

I think 2500 is nearly 13 tonnes is it not

Correct me if I'm wrong
Eu gallon is 4.5 litres
Density of cattle slurry is not quite 1000 kg a cubic metre so 2500 gallons roughly 11 ton

20-06-2020 2:15pm

jaymla627 wrote: »

Issue with dealers is the straight sale price, versus a trade-in been taken would be a couple of grand either way but its very hard to explain this do some lads who reckon their trade-in is worth a fortune and if they see a straight sale price of 60k on a site when it would be 65k if taking their trade-in which they are over-valuing the rows start then

The straight sale and trade in price is just a game with dealers too imo. The price should be the price. Charging more with a trade vs without is just messing.

Reggie. · 20-06-2020 2:41pm

richie123 wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong
Eu gallon is 4.5 litres
Density of cattle slurry is not quite 1000 kg a cubic metre so 2500 gallons roughly 11 ton

I'll take that

K.G. · 20-06-2020 3:22pm

Back to prices .a quick look through dd.
Dribble bar for retro fitting 13 k approx
Tank and dribble 33 +
Tank on its own 18
Dud see a shoe but i think they.are over 40

K.G. · 22-06-2020 11:19pm

allowing for grant a second hand tank would have to be bought less than 8k@60% or 12 k @40% and allowing 13k for dribble bar.must be a load of perfectly good second hand tanks for sale at the moment but going by dd alot of guys cant work the calculater on the price

F5500 · 23-06-2020 12:58am

2600 Major with a dribble bar advertised on DD at €33,500 plus VAT. Hayes in Tipp have it up. Seems to have a bit of spec on it.

alps · 23-06-2020 7:26am

K.G. wrote: »

allowing for grant a second hand tank would have to be bought less than 8k@60% or 12 k @40% and allowing 13k for dribble bar.must be a load of perfectly good second hand tanks for sale at the moment but going by dd alot of guys cant work the calculater on the price

Allow for the grant only being 32.5% of the price of a new one....most claimants not VAT registered.

davidk1394 · 23-06-2020 11:10am

From talking to few friends the Conor tank is the cheapest on the market but also the weakest. Welds around the back of the tank aren't strong enough to hold up the trailing shoe.

lalababa · 23-06-2020 11:22am

richie123 wrote: »

This is a massive problem with most dealerships.
How bloody hard is it to give out a price on a machine.
It always amazes me,there selling machines every week and don't seem to know the price when you ask for it.ill get back to ya is what you'll hear.absolute bull****.

That's the way in Ireland, same with EAs, used to be same with car garages and dealerships (done deal is putting an end to that). You have to chase them. Difficult to understand the phycology, must be a 'im not that bothered' approach and if you really want it you'll pay what I will eventually ask. Fighting from the higher ground sort of thing. There's also the sales technique 'im not pleased with you until you commit to purchase and then we'll be the best of friends' . Sad really but it works ..else they wouldn't do it.
Of course a big one is keeping local clients in the dark (can't compare prices easily) and making them 'invest their time' in said dealership, as a phone call and visits will.

K.G. · 23-06-2020 4:55pm

lalababa wrote: »

That's the way in Ireland, same with EAs, used to be same with car garages and dealerships (done deal is putting an end to that). You have to chase them. Difficult to understand the phycology, must be a 'im not that bothered' approach and if you really want it you'll pay what I will eventually ask. Fighting from the higher ground sort of thing. There's also the sales technique 'im not pleased with you until you commit to purchase and then we'll be the best of friends' . Sad really but it works ..else they wouldn't do it.
Of course a big one is keeping local clients in the dark (can't compare prices easily) and making them 'invest their time' in said dealership, as a phone call and visits will.

To be fair its only people that ask how much per month it is are going to buy.anybody that asks the price is a tight b#ll#cks thats too cute to get caught

richie123 · 23-06-2020 7:44pm

lalababa wrote: »

That's the way in Ireland, same with EAs, used to be same with car garages and dealerships (done deal is putting an end to that). You have to chase them. Difficult to understand the phycology, must be a 'im not that bothered' approach and if you really want it you'll pay what I will eventually ask. Fighting from the higher ground sort of thing. There's also the sales technique 'im not pleased with you until you commit to purchase and then we'll be the best of friends' . Sad really but it works ..else they wouldn't do it.
Of course a big one is keeping local clients in the dark (can't compare prices easily) and making them 'invest their time' in said dealership, as a phone call and visits will.

Ya true I agree with you on those points u make.
The more u chase them then the more they try to reel u in.

westlander · 23-06-2020 9:40pm

Why do some tankers have a chassis joining the barrell and others don’t ?
Suppose the chassis one should be stronger ?

23-06-2020 11:02pm

westlander wrote: »

Why do some tankers have a chassis joining the barrell and others don’t ?
Suppose the chassis one should be stronger ?

That might depend on the thickness of the steel in the wall of the tank

K.G. · 07-07-2020 6:14pm

Seems to me the maserater is the thing to get right when buying a dribble bar.which one is the best/worst .mastek seems to work well around here.

westlander · 07-07-2020 9:02pm

K.G. wrote: »

Seems to me the maserater is the thing to get right when buying a dribble bar.which one is the best/worst .mastek seems to work well around here.

It’s funny no matter which manufacturer you talk to it’s “our macerator is the best”

Slurrquip/Mastek/Alrena/vogelsang/AgQuip/slurryspec seems the main ones. I wonder what are the vertical macerators like ?
Joskin and newrock use these types which differ from the horizontal macerators

blue5000 · 07-07-2020 11:29pm

Just heard someone local has gone over the 50k mark for a new tanker, I suppose sooner or later we'll all have to bite the bullet.

westlander · 08-07-2020 3:35pm

blue5000 wrote: »

Just heard someone local has gone over the 50k mark for a new tanker, I suppose sooner or later we'll all have to bite the bullet.

Strong money must have been well spec'ed.
50K euros worth would spread a lot of slurry by a contractor but each to their own!

blue5000 · 08-07-2020 4:46pm

Chopping when it fills as well. Trouble with contractor is waiting I suppose.

Who2 · 08-07-2020 10:24pm

A lad that works with one of the tanker manufacturers was telling me they put out one at 78k.

timple23 · 12-07-2020 7:36pm

blue5000 wrote: »

Just heard someone local has gone over the 50k mark for a new tanker, I suppose sooner or later we'll all have to bite the bullet.

This it?

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roosterman71 · 12-07-2020 9:15pm

^^^

That is just ridiculous

Reggie. · 12-07-2020 11:37pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

^^^

That is just ridiculous

Has to be for america or that

mr.stonewall · 12-07-2020 11:48pm

timple23 wrote: »

This it?

Tams grant working well

roosterman71 · 13-07-2020 9:05am

Reggie. wrote: »

Has to be for america or that

It's an Irish reg on the truck

mengele · 13-07-2020 9:06am

Surprised they didn't go the whole way and get it galvanised.

Reggie. · 13-07-2020 9:19am

roosterman71 wrote: »

It's an Irish reg on the truck

Has to go to the port somehow

jaymla627 · 13-07-2020 10:20am

Reggie. wrote: »

Has to be for america or that

Shes set up to pump to a umbilicail so i doubt its going to america, they woudlnt be know for messing around like that out their

Gods Gift · 13-07-2020 10:22am

It’s for drawing out from the tank under Dáil Éireann.

timple23 · 13-07-2020 1:50pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Has to be for america or that

County Meath according to bookface.

foxy farmer · 13-07-2020 1:50pm

Wonder what the unladen weight of that is. You'd want a CAT D8 to pull it when full.

Reggie. · 13-07-2020 2:00pm

timple23 wrote: »

County Meath according to bookface.

Mmmmm I wonder is that going to a big contractor there that I'm thinking of

OffalyMedic · 13-07-2020 2:54pm

timple23 wrote: »

County Meath according to bookface.

https://www.facebook.com/302810919826207/posts/3017687235005215/

Injuryprone · 13-07-2020 3:30pm

OffalyMedic wrote: »

https://www.facebook.com/302810919826207/posts/3017687235005215/

How do they get the rain gun past the grant approval

Mooooo · 13-07-2020 3:43pm

foxy farmer wrote: »

Wonder what the unladen weight of that is. You'd want a CAT D8 to pull it when full.

If full she'd surely be up on 33 tonne? 6k gallons will prob be around the 27 tonne mark, tanker be 6 tonne?

Say my name · 13-07-2020 4:01pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Mmmmm I wonder is that going to a big contractor there that I'm thinking of

And a rain gun.!!

I'm thinking it has to be a spud grower for irrigation with a few cattle on the side for the grant.

lakill Farm · 13-07-2020 4:14pm

Say my name wrote: »

And a rain gun.!!

I'm thinking it has to be a spud grower for irrigation with a few cattle on the side for the grant.

maybe tillage and has rain gun on it for fire fighting ?

Grueller · 13-07-2020 8:36pm

Don't know what size that tank is but a contractor local enough to here has 4800 gallon redrock. I get him to do an odd long draw. Lads are €50/he for 2500 gallon tanks and he is €70 for a 4800 gallon. Serious value

westlander · 16-07-2020 5:09pm

Not dribble bar...but i'll just leave this here:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mastek-launches-new-micro-range-557874

New slurry tank with dribble bar prices

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