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the 'there's no such thing as a stupid question' bike maintenance thread

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  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Anyone know a hack way to stop an isis / square taper bb tool slipping.


    I don't have a long enough m8 bolt anywhere, and I need to remove it asap.


    I'm borrowing a different tool from magicbastarder tomorrow morning to try out, hoping the teeth are a bit more grippy, but still not sure



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    Champagne comes to mind, twist the bottle not the cork!!!! Clamp the tool and twist the frame?



  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    I've no clamp. Hence why I looked for a long m8 bolt to keep the tool locked on.


    I got my last 3 off no problem. This one though, just doesn't want to



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    How long does the bolt need to be?


    Where abouts are you located, @Weepsie



  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    About 60mm. In Dublin. Has to have a 1mm pitch as opposed to 1.25 (,not entirely sure what that means)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭KAGY


    Pitch is how much the bolt moves for each revolution, the distance between the thread. 1.25 is standard for m8, you need one that's marked as "fine" pitch . Good luck finding that in local hardware. Auto parts place might be better bet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    Ill have a look, might have a fine pitch M8 bolt here. Not sure where you are in Dublin, but if your driving distance of Naas, pm me and we can sort something out



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    if you count the threads along the bolt, that'd mean there's a thread every 1.25mm as opposed to every 1mm. as KAGY mentioned, it means the bolt will travel that little bit further for each revolution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass



    https://www.gym-fit.co.uk/Bottom-Bracket-Removal-Tool-Square-Taper-Type-Ha-p/gf.sbbb30.htm


    The youtube clip would be the solution if really stuck but I've taken off a bottom bracket from a steel bike which was stored outside for years using the tool with handle. A bolt with a flat washer, and a pipe over handle should work. Penetrating oil first might help.

    If unsure go with the youtube clip, if tool slips you are goosed



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  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    It's the bolt and washer I really need. Have the tool and a wrench.


    Managed to get non drive side off anyway. Have used some crack it freeze spray and hoping that does something to the drive side



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i brought my genesis, with factory fitted BB, aroundn to humphries a few years ago to replace the BB.

    jimmy told me after that it took two of them with a pipe extender on the wrench to get it loose. 'that was put in by a lad who knew he'd never have to take it back out again' said jimmy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    Went out to the shed when I got home from work, Weepsie. Unfortunately, I don't have a bolt, or a threading die, of the right size.

    I will be in Ted Johnson's hardware on Thursday. They have the widest range of odd sized hardware I've ever seen. If they have a suitable bolt, I'll pick one up, it'll only be cents



  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Sorry, got the thing off. It's for the bin, but it's off



  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭breadevery


    New bike coming in February (I hope!). It’s 11 speed GRX. Current bike has 10 speed Tiagra cassette , but the rear wheel is 11 speed,compatible with a spacer . I’d love to be able to swap wheel sets between the 2 bikes quickly without having to change cassettes etc. Is there a way of setting up them to be compatible with one another?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭ARX


    Why does my chain sometimes drop off the small chainring when slowing down to stop? The front derailleur is correctly adjusted, and it happens only every few weeks. I can't figure out what the cause is. I have a chain catcher which I've yet to fit - I'd rather fix the cause than the symptom. On the other hand, perhaps the existence of chain catchers indicates that it can happen even with a correctly adjusted front derailleur.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    no issues of wear on the drivetrain?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    Are you 100% definite that the front derailleur is correctly adjusted? in my experience they are more finnicky than the rear derailleur.


    Other things to check


    Check the crankset and bottom bracket

    If the crankset is loose, it can move sideways during pedaling, which can allow the chain to come off. So make sure the crankarms are securely attached and that there’s no side-to-side play in the crankarm or bottom bracket. Some bottom brackets can be tightened. Worn out ones will need to be replaced, but they’re not overly expensive.

    Check the chainrings

    If the chainrings wobble side to side, that can throw the chain off, too. Loose chainring bolts can cause this, so check all of them with the appropriate wrench to ensure they’re tight. Once you know the bolts are tight, check the chainrings to make sure they spin straight and true. Just sight from above as you turn the crank by hand. If there are wobbles, you should true the chainrings or have it done (you don’t need new chainrings).

    Check the lower derailleur pulley

    Sometimes the lower pulley (called the idler pulley) will be misaligned with the chain. Since its job is steering the chain correctly, when it gets bent, it can cause the chain to drop. The easiest way to see this problem is to stand behind the bicycle as someone else shifts through all the gears. The pulley should remain perfectly aligned with the chain. If the chain is trying to come off the side of the pulley in some gears (usually toward the outside shifting limits), gently bending the pulley back in line could solve your chain drop.


    Edited to add: have you checked that the serailleur is alligned correctly with the chain?



  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭ARX


    No, it's a new Sora drivetrain, fitted it to a new build and it's been happening since the beginning.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 607 ✭✭✭ARX


    I'm sure it's correctly fitted, but of course that means only that I'm sure that it's correctly fitted, not that it's correctly fitted :)

    I fitted the crankset myself (new build with new drivetrain) and everything was torqued to spec. I didn't think of checking the chainring bolts, I'll check those, thanks.

    I've checked the RD as well, as far as I can see it's spot on.

    I think I may be running out of talent here so it might be best to have Joe Daly take a look (they did a lovely job of truing a wheel for me the other day btw).

    Thanks for the suggestions!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    So, I have ordered a new bike, which will be the mosrt expensive bike I've ever owned, and as such the first bike that might be worth buying upgrades for. The bike will be alu frame, but there are carbon models too.


    I see online that you can buy replcemant carbon seatposts for the carbon frame, but they would also fit the bike I'm buying.


    Question is, are there issues with a carbon post in an alu frame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    No except you must use carbon paste and not grease to lube inside the seat tube. If you use grease, the seat post will keep slipping down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭what?


    howdy

    Can quick release wheel, thingys be replaced with screw on bolts easily enough?


    ta very, happy Christmas etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    Yeah, just google bolt on skewers, security skewers, or allen key skewers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    Any recommendations for a Bluetooth cadence sensor, non too expensive, reliable & preferably one where i can change the battery without having to break it apart?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr. Cats


    The cranks on my bike are not spinning freely. I took them off and the bottom bracket on drive side whilst turning is a bit rough/gravelly whilst on non drive side it’s very difficult to get it to spin/turn at all. It’s a press fit on an alu frame, about 6 years old. Is the bb toast or can it be cleaned in some way?

    If it is toast, is it worth buying the tools to extract and fit a new one myself? I like to be able to do most things at home but am wondering if replacing bb is a step too far for someone who just tinkers around? Maybe with an alu frame there’s less chance of an expensive cock up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    Sounds like the bearings are bust and need to be replaced.

    It’s possible to replace bearings without any specialist tools. A hammer and something blunt can be used for removal while a length of threaded bar, some washers and nuts can be used to press the new ones in.

    Just make sure exactly what type of bb you’re dealing with and do some research about replacing that type of bb before you kick-off.

    Should be doable if you’re used to removing and installing other components and servicing your own bike etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭stevencn88


    I've had this on the bike for near 5000km now and I've only just changed the battery this morning, very easy to do. Simple to fit to the crank and very cheap. Also connects easily with the Garmen. Would recommend if you are looking to keep costs to a minimum.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    Cheers for that, looks decent alright. Have one on the way now 👍🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr. Cats


    Thanks for the advice. I tried to knock the bearings out today. I did get them out but had damaged some of the bb sleeve in process. Sourced a new bb and fitted it using some washers and a threaded bar.

    It was a satisfying job to do, especially when the bearings flew off. Hammering the **** out of things is about my level 😂 I’m not sure that I’d take it on with a carbon frame though where a bit more finesse than I possess is required.

    The cranks are back on and all seems much smoother. I’ll take it for a spin tomorrow and fingers crossed all ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    Fair play, it's great to see people taking on jobs like this themselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    So, where exactly do I stop with the saddle rails, the larger clamp on the bottom or the smaller one on top? Bottom one doesn't give much adjustment.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Looking at the markings, it seems like if you push the saddle all the way back it will be not overly supported by the bottom of the clamp, so I would only push it back as far as it is supported by the clamp.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    looks like there's only about 1cm of travel possible with that combination so.

    that clamp does seem particularly long though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,863 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I got a new hplus son archetype rim to replace the identical old one on front wheel; it's had zero servicing in about 40k km but today was the day( I have rim for at least 6 months).

    Part 1

    All laced and ready to take up slack

    All finished and ready for the road.

    The old rim, should hang on wall I suppose 😉.


    Front and rear done now, not bad for a wheelset bought 2nd hand in 2014



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,456 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Finally got round to fixing my pre Christmas puncture to find this strange metal scar on the inside of the rim, rough surface, maybe 1-2mm high. I don't think I could have missed this with previous punctures, but it doesn't look like the kind of thing that could just develop. I stuck a rubber patch over it. Any other suggestions?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,456 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko





  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    that's an odd one, i don't see how that could happen except at manufacture?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Just before Christmas, I picked up a second hand Liv Avail SL1 for my partner. It had been bought but never used as the purchaser had an unrelated accident and was advised to never cycle again.

    I didn't notice it at the time, and even if I had would have assumed an easy fix, that the saddle was misaligned - it points to the left of the steerer. It's far enough off straight to be causing her discomfort on the left side (the side it's pointing to). Only this week we took a closer look and it looks like the seat post (carbon) is most likely glued to the saddle mount, and it's not straight. There's a step at each side where it's misaligned. The seat post has a D-shaped profile - called auto align - so it's not something that can be addressed by just twisting the tube in the frame.

    I can't see a way for it to be anything but a manufacturing error, but the bike was originally bought in June 20, so it's outside of warranty for components. My partner's contacted the bike shop that sold it anyway (she has the receipt) but I'm not sure the chances of a goodwill replacement of the seat post.

    Question is: is it likely to be glued and is there a way of straightening it up?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I suspect photos of the issue will be required...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    Hmmmm, a tricky one. If it were mine, I'd have a go at straightening it but there are a number of ways of going about it (that I can think of):

    1) Strike the nose of the saddle with your hand in an effort to realign it (with the seatpost and saddle in-situ in the bike).

    2) Place something over the saddle (like a large diameter pipe) and use that as leverage to realign the saddle (again with the seatpost and saddle in-situ in the bike).

    3) Remove the seatpost, clamp it using soft jaws in a vice and attempt to realign the saddle by hand.

    It may be risky, and the above methods are only what I may attempt if I had the bike in my hands. I don't want to misguide you and take no responsibility if you damage the frame and/or components.

    I believe that seatpost is common across a fair few Giant models (open to correction) so there's a good chance you could pick up a spare online. A quick look on eBay has given some potentials. I'd say the shop where the bike was bought is a good place to start anyway...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,456 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Yeah, that was my thought too. I'm fairly sure I've previously changed a tube on the back (bike is nearly two years old now), and I doubt if I'd have failed to notice something like this.

    Is a rubber patch the best or only option here? Can't see how I could sand down something that small without doing other damage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭jimm


    Could you get wider rim tape that would cover that spot?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Or file it if it's ragged and stick a puncture repair patch over it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    I'd be suggesting filing it too. It'll be tricky to get a hand file on there, but if you have, or have access to, a Dremel, that would be the easiest solution



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    It's proper name is Giant D-fuse composite.

    The fact that it's composite with no visible means of adjustment makes me think it's glued, in which case forcing it might just break the bond and make it fully unusable. The step is slightly visible in one if these pics.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭cletus


    Probably not the solution you're looking for, the replacements are available, particularly if you decide to try and adjust it and it doesn't work out





  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,182 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    €75 for a new one on bike24 - if they had them in stock, but they don't. as nicksnikita suggested, i suspect if you ask nicely in the shop the bike was bought in, it might be one of the more fruitful options.



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