When will we fly again? II

Technocentral · 14-06-2020 12:45am

faceman wrote: »

As much as I’m all for reopening European borders, a level of caution is likely necessary for the US for the rest of the year. No doubt the virus is going to spread like wild fire and god knows what the government will do with publishing figures when it does get out of hand. The second wave in some states as the US media calls it, is not a second wave. The first wave never went away

On top of that the political landscape Is going to get very interesting between now and after the election in November. Trump isn’t going to go without a fight and who knows what will happen when his number is up.

I travel to the US many times a year, it broke my heart leaving there in March. Granted I’d still get on a plane to go this year but it would only be if I deemed it necessary.

Not scaremongering. Just a sense of caution.

Maybe mid 2021 holiday flights from Ireland will be possible to US, no way on Earth it will happen in 2020.

Micky 32 · 14-06-2020 12:53am

Technocentral wrote: »

Maybe mid 2021 holiday flights from Ireland will be possible to US, no way on Earth it will happen in 2020.

I’ll be aiming for March/April, we’ll have to wait and see. No one on boards has the expertise to predict when hence why i said it’s an aim. Like Faceman i’m sure , as soon as it’s safe i’ll probably be on the first flight out of here ;-)

ShineOn7 · 18-06-2020 5:43pm

Australia has announced it will not reopen its borders to foreign travel until next year

That's pretty huge news for Irish considering our links with the country

NotMOL · 18-06-2020 7:05pm

What is the story with Greece? are (Irish) we allowed to enter from July 1st?

Credit Checker Moose · 18-06-2020 7:08pm

NotMOL wrote: »

What is the story with Greece? are (Irish) we allowed to enter from July 1st?

Greece is already open.

NotMOL · 18-06-2020 7:16pm

Credit Checker Moose wrote: »

Greece is already open.

Are they opened for Irish yet? I last checked a few days ago but Ireland wasn't included

Aisling(",) · 18-06-2020 7:26pm

I'm due to fly to Boston the first week in October, to see Boston, Salem and Martha's Vineyard.

Id love a concrete answer one way or another if we'll be able to travel. We don't really want to go if we can't do everything we wanted to and if it isn't safe.

I'm assuming we won't be going but I hate the air of uncertainty. I'm OK with losing the money paid but it's still 4 months away so who knows.

Caranica · 18-06-2020 7:51pm

Aisling(",) wrote: »

Id love a concrete answer one way or another if we'll be able to travel. We don't really want to go if we can't do everything we wanted to and if it isn't safe.

Trump has to open the borders to tourists first. That's a decision that could happen or not at any time between now and the US Election in November.

Aisling(",) · 19-06-2020 11:57am

Caranica wrote: »

Trump has to open the borders to tourists first. That's a decision that could happen or not at any time between now and the US Election in November.

True.I almost hope he doesn't reopen before October and that will be the decision taken out of our hands!

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 19-06-2020 8:34pm

Aisling(",) wrote: »

True.I almost hope he doesn't reopen before October and that will be the decision taken out of our hands!

If you’re ok with losing the money, then just don’t go. If you weren’t, and you wanted a refund, that’s a bit more out of your hands.

ShineOn7 · 20-06-2020 4:18am

"Mutual and reciprocal" is the new buzz phrase to go along with SOP and RMCO

"Malaysia is in the "very early" stages of discussion on the implementation of a 'travel bubble' with six countries which have successfully contained the Covid-19 outbreak.

Health director-general Datuk Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah said the six countries were Singapore, Brunei, Australia, New Zealand, Japan and South Korea.

"We need to finalise the standard operating procedures (SOPs) and reach an agreement with the countries on several matters, which has to be mutual and reciprocal."

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2020/06/6…

ShineOn7 · 23-06-2020 5:51pm

26 Emirates Passengers Arriving In Hong Kong Test Positive For Coronavirus

https://onemileatatime.com/emirates-hong-kong-coronavirus/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=facebook_page&utm_medium=One%20Mile%20at%20a%20Time&utm_content=26%20Emirates%20Passengers%20Arriving%20In%20Hong%20Kong%20Test%20Positive%20For%20Coronavirus&fbclid=IwAR0GOkfvX-g91m1kPn64ENExFsaAeeicrH8EI_Hm_LRWHvNaqApGOCJRJzk

What these passengers do have in common is that they were all connecting from Pakistan

TomSweeney · 25-06-2020 3:29pm

Looking at flights for Norway in July 2021, but now I see the cases are surging again in Europe, I wonder will we be just in the same ****heap we are in now in another year ???

What a mess...

faceman · 25-06-2020 7:08pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Looking at flights for Norway in July 2021, but now I see the cases are surging again in Europe, I wonder will we be just in the same ****heap we are in now in another year ???

What a mess...

Cases aren’t surging again in Europe

Tenzor07 · 25-06-2020 8:47pm

TomSweeney wrote: »

Looking at flights for Norway in July 2021, but now I see the cases are surging again in Europe, I wonder will we be just in the same ****heap we are in now in another year ???.

12 months away.. I hear there's a second wave coming by then...be careful!

TomSweeney · 25-06-2020 11:47pm

faceman wrote: »

Cases aren’t surging again in Europe

Ok, fair enough, but exponential etc...

I am in 2 minds here, flights now with SAS are good, but would I just be wasting my money - perhaps no refunds with booking now ...

CBear1993 · 26-06-2020 5:14am

Are the naysayers and begrudgers on here going to spontaneously combust into flames when all their efforts to deter people from flying abroad go down the sh*tter in the next few weeks

A picture posted of a view out onto the wing of the plane would suffice on this thread to finish them off nicely I imagine.

TomSweeney · 26-06-2020 11:37am

CBear1993 wrote: »

Are the naysayers and begrudgers on here going to spontaneously combust into flames when all their efforts to deter people from flying abroad go down the sh*tter in the next few weeks

A picture posted of a view out onto the wing of the plane would suffice on this thread to finish them off nicely I imagine.

I want things to get back to normal I really do, but cases are starting to rise in Europe again, and exponential growth is key here.

There is a sense of inevitability to it ...

jonnny68 · 26-06-2020 12:33pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Are the naysayers and begrudgers on here going to spontaneously combust into flames when all their efforts to deter people from flying abroad go down the sh*tter in the next few weeks

A picture posted of a view out onto the wing of the plane would suffice on this thread to finish them off nicely I imagine.

ha well said

theoldbreed · 29-06-2020 11:05am

I don't normally go onto The Journal, just had a quick look at the comments under an article about air bridges...my God you'd swear anyone choosing to go is some sort of terrorist. If I do go abroad I will be keeping it very quiet. I don't understand why they would have an issue with travel to countries where there's an air bridge though.

Tenzor07 · 29-06-2020 11:13am

theoldbreed wrote: »

I don't normally go onto The Journal, just had a quick look at the comments under an article about air bridges...my God you'd swear anyone choosing to go is some sort of terrorist. If I do go abroad I will be keeping it very quiet. I don't understand why they would have an issue with travel to countries where there's an air bridge though.

Only thing that would concern me as a tourist into a country would be if there's a quarantine requirement.

Air-bridges.. Meh.. Sure Serbia is on the list of non-Eu countries to be allowed travel into the EU and I wouldn't believe their Covid19 figures.. A lot of countries have many different ways to report the numbers of infections/deaths.

Credit Checker Moose · 03-07-2020 5:56pm

One more sleep till I fly again!

ShineOn7 · 03-07-2020 6:07pm

Credit Checker Moose wrote: »

One more sleep till I fly again!

Where to?

sideline warrior · 04-07-2020 12:28am

Christina Finn of The Journal now saying that the Green List won't be released on July 9. I haven't seen this anywhere else?? I give up! https://twitter.com/christinafinn8/status/1279096547574194182?s=20

dartboardio · 04-07-2020 12:58am

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Who would ever trust the department of foreign affairs with travel advice ever again going by this carry on?

There are many many countries that are perfectly safe to travel to but they are being too lazy to decipher between them.

Personal responsibility is only way at the moment.

Our government are being pathetic and have shown zero leadership.

We are surviving only by a fluke surge in corp tax receipts.

Absolutely, travelling to other countries is actually more safe than Ireland right now.

Spain for example, masks everywhere that you cannot social distance or else you're fined. Ireland are saying you must have masks on public transport but they're not enforcing at all, I got on a bus today without a mask (I forgot) no one else was wearing a mask either including the driver and no one said a thing

Also went to a bar/restaurant today thinking I'd have to get charged €9 for a meal before I had a drink and not one word was said, we literally just ordered drinks and not one word was mentioned about ordering food....

StreetLight · 04-07-2020 9:17am

dartboardio wrote: »

I got on a bus today without a mask (I forgot) no one else was wearing a mask either including the driver

In Dublin city, drivers are exempt from wearing a face covering as they are already protected from you (and you from them) behind a screen.

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I see sheep · 04-07-2020 9:23am

TomSweeney wrote: »

Looking at flights for Norway in July 2021, but now I see the cases are surging again in Europe, I wonder will we be just in the same ****heap we are in now in another year ???

What a mess...

Can you not just go there now? Why next year?

TomSweeney · 04-07-2020 1:45pm

I see sheep wrote: »

Can you not just go there now? Why next year?

Norway borders are closed still ... not part of EU.

beggars_bush · 04-07-2020 3:39pm

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

We are surviving only by a fluke surge in corp tax receipts.

We can borrow money at almost zero %

Pay cuts are coming in the next budget anyway and probably a usc hike

Van.Bosch · 05-07-2020 8:13pm

dartboardio wrote: »

Absolutely, travelling to other countries is actually more safe than Ireland right now.

Spain for example, masks everywhere that you cannot social distance or else you're fined. Ireland are saying you must have masks on public transport but they're not enforcing at all, I got on a bus today without a mask (I forgot) no one else was wearing a mask either including the driver and no one said a thing

Also went to a bar/restaurant today thinking I'd have to get charged €9 for a meal before I had a drink and not one word was said, we literally just ordered drinks and not one word was mentioned about ordering food....

I get all that but the issue with Spain is that loads of people from Leicester for example could be at the table next to you. Nothing against them but they could have Covid.

Saying that, you never know who you’ll meet anywhere - home or abroad.

Spanish Eyes · 05-07-2020 8:30pm

beggars_bush wrote: »

We can borrow money at almost zero %

Pay cuts are coming in the next budget anyway and probably a usc hike

Neither of which affect the retired on whatever pensions, but everyone else will have to pay for it anyway.

Tenzor07 · 08-07-2020 3:43pm

Truly depressing looking at the forecasts, it's no wonder people want to get away and see what Summer is like:

https://www.thejournal.ie/rain-weather-3-5144416-Jul2020/

CBear1993 · 10-07-2020 7:49am

I suppose to sum it up - is no one getting into the USA the rest of the year? I’m not advocating it for one minute, it’s in turmoil at present.

I booked a trip to New York as my girlfriend always wanted to see it at Christmas, 1st December for 5 or 6 nights.
It was through Aer Lingus deposit scheme for US, so I only paid half of the flights, the rest has to be paid in October.
I know things change very quick at the moment, probably best to just wait and contact aer lingus in September / closer to October?

Looks unlikely at the moment, have one friend over there says no one will get in the rest of the year, much like Australia. Plus this election coming up in November....

faceman · 11-07-2020 9:13am

CBear1993 wrote: »

I suppose to sum it up - is no one getting into the USA the rest of the year? I’m not advocating it for one minute, it’s in turmoil at present.

I booked a trip to New York as my girlfriend always wanted to see it at Christmas, 1st December for 5 or 6 nights.
It was through Aer Lingus deposit scheme for US, so I only paid half of the flights, the rest has to be paid in October.
I know things change very quick at the moment, probably best to just wait and contact aer lingus in September / closer to October?

Looks unlikely at the moment, have one friend over there says no one will get in the rest of the year, much like Australia. Plus this election coming up in November....

I'm in the category of 'I will take my chances' and even I am not planning any trips to the US this year.

I predict that the rule will remain in place until the elections and the new president will start taking the necessary action to tackle the virus in US. Its probably going to be next year before borders open. Canada is expecting a closed border for 2020 in its entirety.

theteal · 11-07-2020 11:50am

Guys, a friends of a friend needs to fly back to Ireland for a funeral. Just a one dayer and back to the UK again. Is this even possible with quaranteen periods and the like?

Apologies for the possibly basic question but I've not been following proceedings and the wife hits me with this one while I'm drilling holes and running cables in the attic.

TomSweeney · 14-07-2020 3:29pm

So I'm wondering again will travel to Norway be possible by July 2021 .... since news outlets are saying this will be around for a while , 2nd wave peaking next March....

faceman · 14-07-2020 3:33pm

theteal wrote: »

Guys, a friends of a friend needs to fly back to Ireland for a funeral. Just a one dayer and back to the UK again. Is this even possible with quaranteen periods and the like?

Apologies for the possibly basic question but I've not been following proceedings and the wife hits me with this one while I'm drilling holes and running cables in the attic.

Sadly funerals are considered non essential. Your friend would have to be in isolation.

Caranica · 14-07-2020 3:43pm

faceman wrote: »

Sadly funerals are considered non essential. Your friend would have to be in isolation.

Should be in isolation, no compulsion to do so. Confirmed today, they cannot make quarantine compulsory.

TomSweeney · 15-07-2020 9:51am

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8520077/Forget-overseas-holiday-Qantas-pulls-international-flights-MARCH-year.html

No flights to Australia till March 2021 - Qantas CEO expects it to be at least July 2021.

ngunners · 18-07-2020 12:04pm

RTE are reporting that Spain and France are unlikely to be on the green list.

BarbBrooklyn · 19-07-2020 7:26pm

2020 is canceled folks, stay home.

CBear1993 · 19-07-2020 9:42pm

Lol. Will send pics from Switzerland on Thursday kid. And Portugal in August. Enjoy being led by the nose prized cow

TomSweeney · 21-07-2020 5:35pm

Hmm, I wonder will summer 2021 be cancelled too ...

Gael23 · 23-08-2020 8:09am

Anyone got plans for summer 2021?

Coybig_ · 16-09-2020 11:06am

Hoping to go to America in September 2021 so heres hoping that will be possible.

12 months away but a lot of people thought we would be out the other end of this by now. Hopefully the social situation will have subsided a bit too, I obviously wouldn't be interested in going in a climate of constant rioting.

Will book hotels with free cancellation at some point over the next few weeks. Have some comp nights in Vegas too so will book those also.

ladyella · 16-09-2020 7:26pm

We postponed Vancouver from August until next April. Holding onto a little hope but seeing the way things are going its hard not to think we'll be changing again

JojoLoca · 17-09-2020 8:33am

Gael23 wrote: »

Anyone got plans for summer 2021?

Not for the summer yet. We have holidays rescheduled from this August to April 21, so will need to see what happens with that first. I also don't think it's possible to plan for holidays long term at the moment, you just need to watch the situation evolving everywhere and book something pretty much last minute

naughtysmurf · 17-09-2020 10:53am

JojoLoca wrote: »

Not for the summer yet. We have holidays rescheduled from this August to April 21, so will need to see what happens with that first. I also don't think it's possible to plan for holidays long term at the moment, you just need to watch the situation evolving everywhere and book something pretty much last minute

Also rescheduled for September 2021 for Fuerteventura, were due out this Saturday, tbh not particularly hopeful at the moment with Spain's numbers but a lot can happen in a year, fingers crossed

Gael23 · 17-09-2020 11:15am

JojoLoca wrote: »

Not for the summer yet. We have holidays rescheduled from this August to April 21, so will need to see what happens with that first. I also don't think it's possible to plan for holidays long term at the moment, you just need to watch the situation evolving everywhere and book something pretty much last minute

I’m hoping to go in September 2021 but not booking for another few months

When will we fly again? II

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