Current affairs in Sweden

Timberrrrrrrr · 03-11-2019 6:15pm

kowloon wrote: »

I'm calling BS, nobody has ever won an argument on the politics forum.

It's happened, you're just not here long enough :pac:

uck51js9zml2yt · 04-11-2019 1:06am

Let's not knock Sweden. They gave us the Swedish Chef in the Muppets along with many minutes of laughter as he chased the chicken around the kitchen

Great guys those Swedes.

biko · 05-11-2019 10:03pm

The 2017 terrorist Akilov who killed several people with a truck is native of Uzbekistan, and who had been on authorities’ radar previously.

Another 46-year-old Uzbek man living in Sweden was found guilty of plotting a terror attack in Stockholm and sentenced to seven years in prison.
On appeal this guy was set free by a higher court.

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David Idrisson, a 46-year-old from Uzbekistan, was in March sentenced to seven years in prison by the Solna District Court, after the court ruled that he had purchased 560 kilos of calcium hypochlorite, 100 kilos of potassium hydroxide, and 50 litres of sulphuric acid with the aim of making a bomb.

But the Svea Court of Appeal on Wednesday morning reversed the judgement.

"He had those chemicals. That's one thing," Ragnar Palmkvist, the judge in the case, told The Local. "But we also have to conclude that he had made the decision to commit that crime, and that we couldn't conclude."

After the man received the ruling, rather than being released he was taken into custody by Sweden's security services under the Law on Special Control of Foreigners
So back in custody.
He was prepared for deportation by the security service and the immigration office, but as it is calimed he could be harmed back home he cannot be deprted now.

So he is set free once again...

TF was he doing in Sweden in the first place? There is no particular war in Uzbekistan

So, 6 radical Muslim leaders and at least one person preparing to blow Swedes up, all set free.

kowloon · 06-11-2019 12:19am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

It's happened, you're just not here long enough :pac:

I've been on Boards in one form or another since it was a Quake forum. I can't get my head around the idea that someone could actually win an argument online.

biko · 13-11-2019 12:24am

Sweden is becoming explosive news
Note they are called explosions when bombings would be more accurate.

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on?
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-50339977

silverharp · 13-11-2019 12:33am

Remember when people were upset at Trump for mentioning crime in Sweden :pac:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1194342475470475264

Beasty · 13-11-2019 12:43am

Thread title changed

:pac:

Danzy · 13-11-2019 12:46am

biko wrote: »

Sweden is becoming explosive news
Note they are called explosions when bombings would be more accurate.

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on?
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-50339977

Engaging in an extreme free market policy on migration, calling it solidarity and hoping it worked out.

Overheal · 13-11-2019 12:47am

Beasty wrote: »

Thread title changed

:pac:

(((OCD recedes)))

The_Kew_Tour · 15-11-2019 12:45am

I find this Thread very sad. It seems most of these rumours are true that you gear about.

I mean Sweden of all places. If they cant get it right what hope for rest.

Overheal · 15-11-2019 2:44am

biko wrote: »

Sweden is becoming explosive news
Note they are called explosions when bombings would be more accurate.

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on?
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-50339977

Well at least the BBC didn't call it the Explosion Squad

But, "Bangers, improvised explosives and hand grenades," don't really all rise to the label of a Bombing do they. If I light some firecrackers in the toilets thats not a bombing (but taking a **** is... hmm) and using a grenade, I have never heard anyone use 'bombing' as pejorative for it. The lad is a grenadier, not a bomber.

And (sidenote) while the bombings are intended to scare people, "The attacks are usually carried out by criminal gangs to scare rival groups or their close friends or family, she says," that doesn't sound like it is applicable to label it terrorism. Though yes people have been harmed. I certainly hope they crack down on it.

kildare lad · 15-11-2019 8:57am

biko wrote: »

Sweden is becoming explosive news
Note they are called explosions when bombings would be more accurate.

Sweden's 100 explosions this year: What's going on?
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-50339977

Good to see Diversity working so well then

silverharp · 15-11-2019 9:46am

Overheal wrote: »

Well at least the BBC didn't call it the Explosion Squad

But, "Bangers, improvised explosives and hand grenades," don't really all rise to the label of a Bombing do they. If I light some firecrackers in the toilets thats not a bombing (but taking a **** is... hmm) and using a grenade, I have never heard anyone use 'bombing' as pejorative for it. The lad is a grenadier, not a bomber.

And (sidenote) while the bombings are intended to scare people, "The attacks are usually carried out by criminal gangs to scare rival groups or their close friends or family, she says," that doesn't sound like it is applicable to label it terrorism. Though yes people have been harmed. I certainly hope they crack down on it.

it is Sweden, this ought to be more shocking than 100 explosions in Dublin 4. plus their media tried to cover it up.

Beechwoodspark · 15-11-2019 9:49am

Sweden used to be the gold standard for western society under a range of indicators.

It seems to have gone completely downhill in the last 5-10 years.

What the hell happened??

Wanderer78 · 15-11-2019 9:53am

Beechwoodspark wrote:

What the hell happened??

They imported the same ****e political and economic ideology as the rest of us

biko · 15-11-2019 10:01am

Another victory for Swedish government..

https://www.thelocal.se/20191114/six-pistols-stolen-from-building-where-swedens-pm-works

Six Glock-17 pistols and 300 dumdum bullets have been stolen from the building that houses the offices of Sweden's prime minister, to the embarrassment of the country's government.

"They don't want this to come out, it's all being hushed up," a source told Dagens Juridik, Sweden's leading legal newspaper, which broke the story.

The weapons and the ammunition were kept in a weapons cabinet in the Rosenbad building, next to Stockholm's Royal Palace. They were intended to be handed out to the buildings security guards in the event of a major security incident, such as a terror threat or attack.

Beechwoodspark · 15-11-2019 10:02am

This is beyond farce

Wibbs · 15-11-2019 10:05am

Overheal wrote: »

But, "Bangers, improvised explosives and hand grenades," don't really all rise to the label of a Bombing do they. If I light some firecrackers in the toilets thats not a bombing (but taking a **** is... hmm) and using a grenade, I have never heard anyone use 'bombing' as pejorative for it. The lad is a grenadier, not a bomber.

Talk about being ridiculously pedantic for the sake of avoiding the bloody obvious and the bloody point. Never mind that grenadier doesn't mean what it originally meant a couple of hundred years ago.

And (sidenote) while the bombings are intended to scare people, "The attacks are usually carried out by criminal gangs to scare rival groups or their close friends or family, she says," that doesn't sound like it is applicable to label it terrorism. Though yes people have been harmed. I certainly hope they crack down on it.

Oh yeah, that makes it less of an issue. Jesus. There's a point where there's only so much progressive bullsh1t that avoids the elephant in the room I can stomach.

The facts are - and even the right on Swedish authorities and press agree - that these attacks are overwhelmingly down to immigrant populations, worse, more likely to be second generation and the uptake of said populations in Sweden(and elsewhere) has kicked off a wave of antisocial and criminal behaviour. Big shock as again this has gone down in every single bloody country that has tried to run this retarded social experiment. If the first generation have problems, the subsequent generations get worse, not better. If this multicultural nonsense was workable you'd expect to see the opposite.

But no, it's all OK. Bombings in Sweden. Something that wasn't even on the radar ten years ago as a crime is now happening on the regular. Diversity is our strength. My bollocks. :rolleyes:

biko · 15-11-2019 10:07am

Overheal wrote: »

Though yes people have been harmed. I certainly hope they crack down on it.

In case anyone wonders about the people harmed comment

The son of a man killed after picking up a hand grenade in a Stockholm suburb says his father thought the object was a toy.
"It's so unfair that an innocent man is dead just because someone dropped or placed a hand grenade there."

https://www.thelocal.se/20180111/man-killed-by-grenade-in-stockholm-suburb-thought-it-was-a-toy

Where did the man get killed? You guessed it, a "vulnerable" area...

Vårby gård is one of the suburbs in Sweden classified as ‘vulnerable’ by the police, defined as somewhere "characterized by a low socio-economic status where criminals have an impact on the local community".

biko · 15-11-2019 10:21am

At least this was called a bombing

https://www.thelocal.se/20190823/linkoping-bomb-up-to-40-times-as-big-as-recent-malmo-blasts

As much as 15-20 kilos of industrial explosives – placed in a cargo bike – was used to carry out the bomb attack in Linköping in June, making it up to almost 40 times as big as charges used in recent attacks in Malmö.

TomSweeney · 15-11-2019 10:30am

Meanwhile Sweden is happy to import third world culture en masse.
Joke of a country.

WrenBoy · 15-11-2019 12:22pm

Looking forward to our own gang bomb wars kicking off in the coming years, Im starting a window business so its all good.

Mad_maxx · 15-11-2019 1:03pm

Anyone ever check out the twitterings of one Philip o Connor on twitter, Stockholm based "journalist"?

According to him, there are no issues with crime in immigrant communities in Sweden

Danzy · 15-11-2019 1:11pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Anyone ever check out the twitterings of one Philip o Connor on twitter, Stockholm based "journalist"?

According to him, there are no issues with crime in immigrant communities in Sweden

He has some very strange views.

biko · 15-11-2019 1:21pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Anyone ever check out the twitterings of one Philip o Connor on twitter, Stockholm based "journalist"?

According to him, there are no issues with crime in immigrant communities in Sweden

He is a Social Democrat, the ruling party in Sweden - it wouldn't behove him to say anything opposed to the Party line.
He lives in an area where the Swedish Social Democrats are very strong but the ex-commies The Left are even stronger.
He is also involved with Irish Social Democrats.

Wanderer78 · 15-11-2019 1:22pm

biko wrote: »

He is a Social Democrat, the ruling party in Stockholm. It wouldn't behove him to say anything opposed to the Party line.
He lives in an area where the Swedish Social Democrats are very strong but the ex-commies The Left are even stronger.
He is also involved with Irish Social Democrats.

Of course he doesn't think anything is wrong with socialism...

i dont understand why such as statement would be made, sweden isnt a socialist state

Overheal · 15-11-2019 1:28pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Talk about being ridiculously pedantic for the sake of avoiding the bloody obvious and the bloody point. Never mind that grenadier doesn't mean what it originally meant a couple of hundred years ago.

Oh yeah, that makes it less of an issue. Jesus. There's a point where there's only so much progressive bullsh1t that avoids the elephant in the room I can stomach.

The facts are - and even the right on Swedish authorities and press agree - that these attacks are overwhelmingly down to immigrant populations, worse, more likely to be second generation and the uptake of said populations in Sweden(and elsewhere) has kicked off a wave of antisocial and criminal behaviour. Big shock as again this has gone down in every single bloody country that has tried to run this retarded social experiment. If the first generation have problems, the subsequent generations get worse, not better. If this multicultural nonsense was workable you'd expect to see the opposite.

But no, it's all OK. Bombings in Sweden. Something that wasn't even on the radar ten years ago as a crime is now happening on the regular. Diversity is our strength. My bollocks. :rolleyes:

Thank you for the refreshingly honest reply not the coy ‘wonder why all these are labeled explosions Hmm’ about way of not being direct with people that were talking about the migrant crisis. The post I was responding to asked ‘what is happening’ in Sweden, when apparently the answer is well known - itself a pedantic exercise. Your response more or less the clarifying construct I was hoping would result, not another 10 pages of typical CA/IMHO of people refusing to say what they actually mean.

biko · 15-11-2019 1:32pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i dont understand why such as statement would be made, sweden isnt a socialist state

I removed it but not for your unsourced reason.

Maybe you can elaborate on your definition of socialism and what makes Sweden non-socialist?

Overheal · 15-11-2019 1:33pm

biko wrote: »

I removed it but not for your unsourced reason.

Then, why

4068ac1elhodqr · 15-11-2019 1:34pm

This category of crime was not even logged prior to 2017.
Then, in 2018, there were 162 explosions and in the past two months alone the squad have been called to almost 30.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50339977

Meanwhile... Denmark (with a bit more sense) reinstates border checks with Sweden.

Wanderer78 · 15-11-2019 1:34pm

biko wrote: »

I removed it but not for your unsourced reason.

ah shur, life sucks, i ll go and find a source, for the strangers on the internets, its my utmost highest priority

biko · 15-11-2019 1:38pm

I removed it because I didn't want it to be the focus of O'Connors texts. Instead focus on his work and his agenda.

Besides, I agree with Wanderer78. Sweden isn't socialist, it's a capitalist country.
The government are selling out public assets, which is opposite to what socialists would do.

Wibbs · 15-11-2019 1:40pm

Oh I'm definitely talking about migrants OH, specifically those from developing world crapholes and those of an ideological bent. I'm also definitely talking about the BS that is "diversity" and "multiculturalism". We've already been infected with it here on the back of freeloaders who showed up during the "boom" and ivory tower idealogues in the Dail and other vested interests. So far it's at a low enough level thank christ, but no more and we should resist this mental politic as much as possible. I certainly don't want here to become Sweden or have our cities reflect the ghettos of Britain, France, Germany et al. Sod that. Hell we can't even "integrate" Travellers in this country. It's already kicked off on a low level and needs to be nipped in the bud and Sweden should be an example of how not to do it.

Wanderer78 · 15-11-2019 1:41pm

biko wrote: »

I removed it but not for your unsourced reason.

Maybe you can elaborate on your definition of socialism and what makes Sweden non-socialist?

sweden has become victim to the exact same political/economical ideologies thats plaguing most, if not all western nations, which is in turn destabilizing the critical systems of its functioning. sweden is experiencing rapidly rising inequality, rapidly rising costs of living, particularly in relation to housing and accommodation, etc etc etc. these ideologies are not actually based in socialism, but more so in free market capitalism.

Danzy · 15-11-2019 1:51pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

i dont understand why such as statement would be made, sweden isnt a socialist state

They are hard to pin down.

They have a strongly interventionist state who believes in looking after people.

Commercially they are as free market as ourselves.

With migration even their radical left is adopting an Ayn Rand libertarian view.

Wanderer78 · 15-11-2019 1:54pm

Danzy wrote: »

They are hard to pin down.

They have a strongly interventionist state who believes in looking after people.

Commercially they are as free market as ourselves.

With migration even their radical left is adopting an Ayn Rand libertarian view.

some good points, im expecting some weird twists and turns in each countries approach to the failings of these ideologies, unfortunately, im expecting the worst

Danzy · 15-11-2019 1:55pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

some good points, im expecting some weird twists and turns in each countries approach to the failings of these ideologies, unfortunately, im expecting the worst

Ultimately their extreme position on migration will finish their Social provisions.

Budawanny · 15-11-2019 2:08pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

sweden has become victim to the exact same political/economical ideologies thats plaguing most, if not all western nations, which is in turn destabilizing the critical systems of its functioning. sweden is experiencing rapidly rising inequality, rapidly rising costs of living, particularly in relation to housing and accommodation, etc etc etc. these ideologies are not actually based in socialism, but more so in free market capitalism.

Citation needed.

Wanderer78 · 15-11-2019 2:23pm

Budawanny wrote: »

Citation needed.

many respected economic commentators have been writing about this for a long time, no citations as such are needed

Mad_maxx · 15-11-2019 3:11pm

Danzy wrote: »

He has some very strange views.

That's a charitable description

Mad_maxx · 15-11-2019 3:17pm

Just how left of us are the swedes?

Can you discuss immigration in the media over there in the way it's taboo in the Irish media?

Danzy · 15-11-2019 3:20pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Just how left of us are the swedes?

Can you discuss immigration in the media over there in the way it's taboo in the Irish media?

Way more taboo.

In some ways they are way more conformist now than 1950s Ireland.

Mad_maxx · 15-11-2019 4:11pm

Danzy wrote: »

Way more taboo.

In some ways they are way more conformist now than 1950s Ireland.

Nordics are inherently conformist societies, it's why their world famous welfare state was made work so successfully for so long

We are very conformist ourselves in many ways though unlike the Nordics, if we can get our neighbours to pay for our water etc, we will

When it was once the case we were affronted by Liberal attitudes, now we are up in arms if someone displays Conservative sensibilities.

biko · 20-11-2019 9:50am

Iraqi Defence Minister Outed as Swedish Citizen With Criminal Record by News Outlet

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201911201077355499-iraqi-defence-minister-outed-as-swedish-citizen-with-criminal-record-by-news-outlet/

https://nyheteridag.se/plus/the-iraqi-minister-of-defence-is-a-swedish-citizen/

biko · 24-11-2019 9:21pm

Story now picked up by mainstreamers once the alternatives have broken the story last week
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/23/iraqs-defence-minister-accused-benefit-fraud-sweden

The Iraqi defence minister has been reported to Swedish police for benefits fraud, according to local media, amid claims he was receiving child and housing support long after returning to Baghdad.

Goes to show that no matter who these immigrants are, many/most/all will try to defraud the system.
Also it shows the government agencies total lack of any clues whatsoever.

AlekSmart · 24-11-2019 9:27pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Nordics are inherently conformist societies, it's why their world famous welfare state was made work so successfully for so long

We are very conformist ourselves in many ways though unlike the Nordics, if we can get our neighbours to pay for our water etc, we will

When it was once the case we were affronted by Liberal attitudes, now we are up in arms if someone displays Conservative sensibilities.

So....would you extrapolate here that Middle Eastern or African folks are inherently Non-Conformist by nature ?

Would this then suggest that they might have more in common with our Wild Colonial Boy view of things ?

Very interesting all the same

AlekSmart · 24-11-2019 9:28pm

biko wrote: »

Story now picked up by mainstreamers once the alternatives have broken the story last week
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/23/iraqs-defence-minister-accused-benefit-fraud-sweden

Goes to show that no matter who these immigrants are, many/most/all will try to defraud the system.
Also it shows the government agencies total lack of any clues whatsoever.

All good news for curmudgeonly ol racisty phobeophobes wherever they may be...yes ?

biko · 24-11-2019 9:34pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

All good news for curmudgeonly ol racisty phobeophobes wherever they may be...yes ?

Bad news for the people who claim "racists" are imagining things and have nothing to fear.

biko · 24-11-2019 9:49pm

About defrauding

Mainstream media:
https://www.tv4.se/nyheterna/klipp/asyls%C3%B6kande-registrerar-olika-personuppgifter-hos-olika-myndigheter-3899333

Upwards of 50 percent of those seeking asylum register different personal data with different authorities.

https://www.svd.se/samma-person-atta-identiteter
One immigrant - 8 identities!

The_Kew_Tour · 24-11-2019 10:12pm

No doubt the above happens here too. I have even read about some dressing up as different sex going in for different payments

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