where to get me a cargo bike

Yeah they said so on Twitter. Does anyone know what kind of price the bikes sold for?

Good to note as well that CSS actually have it in stock, whereby there can be long lead times with some of the others.

I test rode a Carqon Cruise today (in the Netherlands). Does anyone have any experience of one? I haven't ridden an Urban Arrow so can't compare, but value wise it looks quite good, maybe only the Cube Cargo Hybrid gives a similar value

Removing the back wheel of a belt driven Riese & Muller is beyond my skillset.

Edit: In response to q from Listendernow

R&M Load 75. The bike was still rideable so I cycled it 7km to the shop with my road bike in the front. That is about the only issue I see with a big lump of a bike like this if the shop you bought it from is nowhere close (ie: in another city). Greenaer are supposed to be opening a shop in Limerick later this year so I'm sure they'd offer some collection service if a bike they sold was immobile. I don't foresee having any more issues though so not having a shop locally shouldn't be a problem. But I didn't do a whole lot of research either before purchasing so didn't consider after sales service - I just wanted a bike from anyone who could get it to me asap - I didn't want to be waiting 3-4 months. I'm really happy with it (apart from the broken spoke) - the torque and the continuous hub gear are a joy and the main reason I got it was that riding the kids around in the front of a bike is more enjoyable for me and them. But I got rid of a car to justify the purchase - we went from 2 cars to 1. I think it'd be hard to justify the cost otherwise.

Am in the market for an electric version of this bike. Have the manual Workcycles FR8 last two years and its a fantastic machine. Thinking of going the electric, the soon to be 4 & 2 year old are only going to be getting heavier. Anybody any experience of them here OR the Neodrives Z20 rear wheel motor?

Thinking of getting the FR8 RWD

https://workcycles.com/product/workcycles-fr8-rwd-family/

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The Fr8 ‘RWD’ (Rear Wheel Drive) is a smooth and sophisticated electric assist system made by Neodrives in Germany. A torque sensor and well developed software make it the most natural feeling e-bike we've ridden. The 36V Z20 rear wheel motor has a 612Wh battery and 5 levels of assist, it packs a powerful response and has no disturbing noises while riding. As the motor is built into the rear wheel this is the first bike we’ve produced without an internally geared hub. The WorkCycles Fr8 RWD Family comes with a SRAM rear derailleur and 10 speed 11-36 tooth cassette, ample gearing for all your transport needs.

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On the bakfiets we have you can tighten the spokes with a small adjustable wrench. The nipples (quiet down the back) are too large for a normal multisize nipple wrench (I said quiet), but a small adjustable wrench is ok, if you're careful.

I just tightened up both wheels, but it was the first time I did it in about six years. I had to do it a few weeks after buying it and then didn't need doing again till a few weeks ago, when I could hear a regular pinging noise when there was no traffic noise.

I've had to replace a fair few parts generally (cable inners a few times, on the third set of tyres, few inner tubes, front roller brake once, front dynohub once, and just recently the gear shifter) because it's done a large distance (over 45000km, I think). I think a general service once a year might be enough for a bakfiets, with visits for anything that's bothering you apart from that. I drop off the rear hub-geared wheel to Dara in Bee Cycles every year or two to get him to service it.

My feeling is that it doesn't need servicing that often, and it needs cleaning and lubing less than bikes people in Ireland would be more used to. The bakfiets has a very Dutch design though. Not sure about other cargo bikes.

I’d advocate going with a Vodafone smart sim, 3 quid a month and then getting a SIM card tracker like the TKstar tk905.

Would be wary of signing up to a subscription that relies on a companies eco system that could shut down at any point vs the likes of a sim plan that you can just swap out

Interesting to hear you say that about chains being harder to cut with angle grinders. There is a school of thought (that I follow) that a u-lock and a chain is a good combination, because the former is more difficult for bolt cutters and the latter is more difficult for angle grinders. But for our cargo bike, I use a chain, because it's not a given at all that you'll get er enough to a stand to u-lock the frame, given the box is so often in the way, and the unusual shape of the frame.

Though in this case, since I think the scenario is locking the bike at home outside the house, I'd say a gold/diamond-rated chain and similarly rated u-lock would be good.

Out on the road, I use a 110cm Abus Granit CityChain X-Plus (which has some mixed reviews, but I think mostly in the context of a motorcycle lock), an old silver-rated u-lock to secure the front wheel, the built-in rear-wheel frame-lock and a tex-lock plug-in chain. It at least provides a broad palette of challenges for a thief who then has to store and sell on a giant bike that still is a nice interest. But out-on-the-road is a lower security scenario than leaving an expensive bike outside the front of your house every night.

On the off-chance anyone had a Babboe and now grown children, I'm looking to get a baby&toddler and 1-2 child seats for a Babboe. The former is €100 and the latter are just shy of €50, so if anyone has one lying around that they're not using I can take it off your hands as a favour ;) or pay you a fee for it.

Great stuff! Sure it'll be worth the wait.

I test rode a Carqon a few weeks ago which is huge - I made the mistake of cycling to and from the shop on a Brompton and the difference in handling took a long time to get used to. He told me to look a few feet in front of the front wheel when turning rather than just reacting as you would do on a normal bike - that helped a lot

After I rented an R&M for a weekend a couple of years ago, I spent the entire next journey on my hybrid trying to adjust back to riding a normal bike. I nearly fell off several times 😄

The more you cycle it, the more it just becomes like second nature.

If anybody is interested in a front bike box that attachs to a regular bike, am selling this argocargo

Will be posting it up on adverts.ie over the weekend

Thread on it here.